Hey everyone, normally there is a setting under development that you can put a check to leave the screen on while charging the GSII. I looked and no box to check. Anyone know if there is a different way to do this on the GSI?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288070
Probably not a good idea. AMOLED screens can suffer from burn in. Likely why Samsung removed the option. Many Nexus One owners will testify to this because they have a faint image of the Froyo notification bar forever on their screen.
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Correct. Burn in is a real concern on any OLED/AMOLED screens as blue pixels have very short life span. Don't leave it on for extended period. Don't use the max brightness all the time.
Thanks everyone. That makes sense, they removed this option from the phone. I always use the Auto brightness on my GSII. I did always use this option on my Nexus S to leave screen on while charging.
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I use screebl from my htc inspire and it seems to work good on this device.
Inspire is a LCD screen and won't get burn-in. DON'T do it for any OLED/AMOLED screens. You get burn-in very easily.
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Inspire is a LCD screen and won't get burn-in. DON'T do it for any OLED/AMOLED screens. You get burn-in very easily.
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I've left my Cappy AMOLED screen on for hours at a time and pretty much always while charging. I've never had (or heard of) any issues with burn in. Is the AMOLED Plus on the SGSII the issue or am I just lucky with my Cappy?
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I've left my Cappy AMOLED screen on for hours at a time and pretty much always while charging. I've never had (or heard of) any issues with burn in. Is the AMOLED Plus on the SGSII the issue or am I just lucky with my Cappy?
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Sometimes you will have to be on special background to see the effect. A lot of Captivate onwers, Galaxy S owners and Samsung Focus owners found out the hardway. Just search screen burn-in in the respective forums. The blue pixles used to be only 2000 to 4000 hours of life span. I'm pretty sure Samsung has improved it to something like 8000 to 14000 hours but there is no specifics released by Samsung. So, you can count those hours to see how that will affect your screen burn-in.
Some phone screens get burn-in quite easily than others. So there is manufacture variations as well. I personally don't want to risk it. It's easier to get burn-in on these screens than today's Plasma TVs which typically has 80,000 to 100,000 hours half-brightness lifespan, or 10 times less likely to get burn-in than our phone screen. And TVs usually display motion videos instead of static text on the phone.
Thanks for clearing it up. Agreed--I do not want to risk it.
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I have recently discovered the joy of running gameboid (the gameboy advance emulator) on my thunderbolt. My question is how concerned should I be about screen burn-in on static elements such as the virtual d-pad and buttons. I did a bit of research on Google and was able to turn up several forums stating that burn-in was apparent on the nexus 1 and the incredible, but obviously these have different screen types than the thunderbolt. Any insight would be appreciated. I don't play for much longer than 30 mins at a time, but I just don't want to be stuck six months from now with an issue. Thanks
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I have recently discovered the joy of running gameboid (the gameboy advance emulator) on my thunderbolt. My question is how concerned should I be about screen burn-in on static elements such as the virtual d-pad and buttons. I did a bit of research on Google and was able to turn up several forums stating that burn-in was apparent on the nexus 1 and the incredible, but obviously these have different screen types than the thunderbolt. Any insight would be appreciated. I don't play for much longer than 30 mins at a time, but I just don't want to be stuck six months from now with an issue. Thanks
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The nexus 1 and inc have OLED screens, which suffer from some burn-in. LCDs don't so you'll be fine.
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The nexus 1 and inc have OLED screens, which suffer from some burn-in. LCDs don't so you'll be fine.
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LCD can get burn in. It just generally takes much longer. I never had it happen on a phone, but I know desktop monitors can. I have 3 IPS (display panel type) desktop screens (1 4-5 years old and 2 newer). One of the new had temporary burn in just from having elements stuck in the same location for a long time (all day code marathon and debugger screens stuck in the same spot and monitor not being off). Since then that has gone away.
My older one gets it just from having anything stuck on the screen in the same spot for an hour or so. It goes away after a while, but still annoying.
Thank you
Very informative, I appreciate you taking the time to explain
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The nexus 1 and inc have OLED screens, which suffer from some burn-in. LCDs don't so you'll be fine.
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OLED = LCD just a different lighting source.
Burn in on LCD is almost non existent.
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ibsk8 said:
OLED = LCD just a different lighting source.
Burn in on LCD is almost non existent.
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Not true. You're thinking of the backlight on televisions (powered by LED instead of fluorescents). Organic LED is totally different http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_light-emitting_diode
Thanks for the heads up I was thinking of leds and not the oleds.
Thank you for the correction and some reading info.
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With all the marketing bs out there it can make it easy to criss cross things.
After seeing the screen on the samsung galaxy s II i'm pretty confident that its what i'll be getting, but...I'm concerned about burn in.
One of the reasons I was leaning towards the htc sensation is that with slcd I don't have to worry about burn in at all, but how much do i really have to worry about it?
I havn't seen many people complain about burn in on the first galaxy s, but there are still some cases.
Is it reduced on the galaxy s II?
Are the chances of this happening so low that I shouldnt worry about it?
How cheap/easy is it to replace the screen if this happens?
im interested in this as well
Hi,
I´m an Omnia 2 I8000 owner since 10.2009. It was the first phone on market with Samsungs Amoled-screen.
I allways use Black themes.
I don´t have any problems with screen burn up to now. You can see it slightly on testimages, but in normal use, you won´t notice it at all! I would post pictures, but my Display was replaced(Dust under the screen) a month ago, so its new again...
Rgds
Is there even such a problem on AMOLED screens? I came from a Nexus One with AMOLED screen and never had such issues, and I believe the screen was made by Samsung too.
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Is there even such a problem on AMOLED screens?
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Amoled screens are basically plasma screens for phones.
They're completely different technologies, but the pros/cons are almost the same.
lcds make a picture but the backlight is what allows us to see it so clearly.
amoled make their own light, but they have a lifespan.
so the pixels that get the most use tend to fade, and leave a 'burn in' effect.
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After seeing the screen on the samsung galaxy s II i'm pretty confident that its what i'll be getting, but...I'm concerned about burn in.
One of the reasons I was leaning towards the htc sensation is that with slcd I don't have to worry about burn in at all, but how much do i really have to worry about it?
I havn't seen many people complain about burn in on the first galaxy s, but there are still some cases.
Is it reduced on the galaxy s II?
Are the chances of this happening so low that I shouldnt worry about it?
How cheap/easy is it to replace the screen if this happens?
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Burn in happens as early as 4-6 months of use with most AMOLED based screens, this happens mostly on the clock section of the notification bar, there is a long thread about this on the SGS1 forums. Honestly burn in is the least of concerns, be more concerned about the yellow tinting issue on most SAMOLED Plus screens.
Well ive had a samsung jet for some 3-4 years, one of the first amoleds (i think)
and i dont have a hint of burn in, i also got a htc desire after that because i fell in love with amoled and that doesnt have any burn in either. Now i have my sgs2 and the amoled love continues. I have a plasma screen at home so i am very familliar with burn in (nasty shock in the morning when falling asleep with it on!).
I think if samsung thought these were going to burn in they would have put screen protection/pixel flushing just like they did with my samsung plasma tv. Its really not a worry in my mind and i use bright blue glowing themes which are the most aggressive on amoled pixels.
Ive read horror stories of burn in but those are just faulty screens/handsets.
Heres the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892498&page=16&highlight=amoled+burnin
what im still unable to find is how easy it would be to replace the screen if it were to burn in, and what it would cost.
never knew these AMOLED screens have image retention problems.
My Nexus One had terrible screen burn, the Froyo notification bar was clearly visable when not actually displayed. Hope the SGS2 does not go this way.
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Is there even such a problem on AMOLED screens? I came from a Nexus One with AMOLED screen and never had such issues, and I believe the screen was made by Samsung too.
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Yes there is a problem. My nexus one has permanent burn in. And I made a thread with many others posting pics of their burn in.
Its just a trait of amoled screens. My status bar, clock am pm, and keyboard are all burnt in to the screen on my nexus one.
Search the forum, this topic has already been covered.
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Search the forum, this topic has already been covered.
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Yes, but i cant find anything saying if its been improved on the amoled plus screens.
I would assume that the efficiency boost would lessen the effect a bit because it should boost the pixel lifespan, but im not 100%.
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Yes, but i cant find anything saying if its been improved on the amoled plus screens.
I would assume that the efficiency boost would lessen the effect a bit because it should boost the pixel lifespan, but im not 100%.
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Yes that is the question now, we don't know how much amoled plus improves this issue. I have to think that its gonna be much improved with this new generation.
Mine already seems to suffer from burn-in, most noticeable whenever my auto-brightness shifts to lower thresholds (had my SGS2 since the last day of June 2011). I wonder if Sammy can do any replacement for me.
I got a burn in too. The four bottom icons start to be visible with notification bar pulled down.
Looks like I ain't the only one with an sgs2 with this issue then. I notice it's only visible at low brightness - approximately 10-15%. And my notification bar has always been black.
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Got mine since it's release in May, always used very low brightness settings and a low screen-off-timer, 30 seconds or one minute.
Status bar is visible on red background and very visible on blue, some icons and the clock time are present all the time.
Really pathetic after very moderate and careful use in five month.
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Got mine since it's release in May, always used very low brightness settings and a low screen-off-timer, 30 seconds or one minute.
Status bar is visible on red background and very visible on blue, some icons and the clock time are present all the time.
Really pathetic after very moderate and careful use in five month.
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Similar to my usage pattern mate. Pathetic is the word. Damn.
I just recently bought a refurb S2 from ATT as an upgrade. I also just read up on how these screens quickly burn out and leave imprints from static images. So for you guys that have had this phone since launch, how bad is it? Is it even noticeable?
I saw this video and it looks pretty terrible : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbTuMamqSA
Wow that's bad! Best way to protect yourself is to get a screenprotector...
Honestly, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Burn in is about the same on most display panels. You would have to leave you screen on permanently for extended periods of time to experience anything like what the host of that video is talking about. This is the first I've even heard of it and I've had the same gs2 since launch.
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Don't fret it man, I've had my captivate since launch day and have yet to experience any screen burn it.
I bought my phone the day it released. I use my phone a lot and I have yet to see what you shared with that Video on my phone. I think you'll be alright.
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Wow that's bad! Best way to protect yourself is to get a screenprotector...
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Uhhhhhhhh. No.
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Mine has some slight burn in in the status bar, nothing really major but it's noticeable on all blue or light gray backgrounds and low brightness.
At first it drove me crazy but you kinda get used to it and I now don't mind it.
By the way, the i9100 forum has more topics on this if you want a reference.
i got my refurb from AT&T a little over a week and a half ago and my screen is pretty bad in low light conditions. i dunno if its screen burn in but there are noticeable blotches on the screen when dark images are shown. luckily you cant really see it during normal conditions.
The only devices I've ever seen with burn-in are store display units - which are kept with the screen on nearly all the time displaying the same damn thing.
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The only devices I've ever seen with burn-in are store display units - which are kept with the screen on nearly all the time displaying the same damn thing.
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The SG2 is especially bad about this since they usually don't play any "demo" on that model in the stores, the phone is kept on the home screen all hours of the day and night, or at least that's what the AT&T reps told me
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After a few months I noticed that the the color is slightly off in full screen apps where the notification area is. I do tend to keep the screen on quite a bit though.
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Don't fret it man, I've had my captivate since launch day and have yet to experience any screen burn it.
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My Cappy before the digitizer broke on me, had burn in from the status of time/signal strength. My GS2 no issues at all.
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i got my refurb from AT&T a little over a week and a half ago and my screen is pretty bad in low light conditions. i dunno if its screen burn in but there are noticeable blotches on the screen when dark images are shown. luckily you cant really see it during normal conditions.
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That isn't burn in. It's just variance during the manufacturing process.
Have had phone from the 1st day it came out. No problems here.
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Have had phone from the 1st day it came out. No problems here.
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Same here, got it release day and have had no problems. I usually keep auto brightness on but towards the dim side. Screen is plenty bright anyways.
I can vouch for amoled screens getting some burn in if you're not careful. My nexus one has a permanent mail box burned in from a text message reminder app that I used to use that would keep the screen awake with that static image. I'm sure all screens will do this though and I'm just more careful with this phone
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The ICS launchers have caused burn in on my screen because of the app drawer launcher. You don't notice it unless you are on low light levels with a grey image though.
Hey guys I'm getting this phone on Wednesday.
Just before I get it and use it can anymore comment on any issue with burn in? Subpixel life etc.
I'm going to use this phone quite often. It'll be on at least 9 hours a day on charge and off.
What kind of life can I expect from the screen? Not bothered about battery life.
If its bad I'll return it and get htc one x or something with LCD or else.
Thanks in advance!
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Hey guys I'm getting this phone on Wednesday.
Just before I get it and use it can anymore comment on any issue with burn in? Subpixel life etc.
I'm going to use this phone quite often. It'll be on at least 9 hours a day on charge and off.
What kind of life can I expect from the screen? Not bothered about battery life.
If its bad I'll return it and get htc one x or something with LCD or else.
Thanks in advance!
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If you are worried out burning then make sure you switch back and forth between portrait and landscape so the status bar won't always be in the same spot.
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Funny enough how (most) people never really cared about screen burn-in on plasma televisions, LED televisions and good old CRT's but go frenzy about AMOLED screen burnin.
I've had my S1 for 2 years with probably more like 12 hours per day screen-on and it really is fine. On uniform backgrouns (e.g. all red, green, blue..) you can see the lines (most prominently the status bar).
On several launchers (e.g. GO) you can hide the status bar if that's of concern to you, there are additionally several apps trying to make it far less visible by uniformly burning colors in your screen.
Of course there are always "bad" screens which burn in easily just as there are bad LCD's with stuck/dead pixels.
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Funny enough how (most) people never really cared about screen burn-in on plasma televisions, LED televisions and good old CRT's but go frenzy about AMOLED screen burnin.
I've had my S1 for 2 years with probably more like 12 hours per day screen-on and it really is fine. On uniform backgrouns (e.g. all red, green, blue..) you can see the lines (most prominently the status bar).
On several launchers (e.g. GO) you can hide the status bar if that's of concern to you, there are additionally several apps trying to make it far less visible by uniformly burning colors in your screen.
Of course there are always "bad" screens which burn in easily just as there are bad LCD's with stuck/dead pixels.
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I think people do go crazy about screen burn ins. You're just not taking a good pool from different kinds of people, tech geeks vs average consumers, where there are more average consumers who do not care.
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Ok so it doesn't burn that much? I've had burn in on plasma before it was really annoying. I'm planning on using this phone for 2 years+ for games and camera mostly. is there an auto wallpaper changer/cycler?
Has your LG G2 Smearing or the Ghost Effect in System settings or Internet Browser?
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All IPS screens have some degree of ghosting, it's the nature of IPS technology, but that's totally perceived differently amongst users. Some see it, some don't (I don't see it not even in games), but I know it's there.
However IPS displays do not have the dreaded AMOLED burn in problems, where static images (blues and whites are the most problematic) eventually burn in like those old ATM CRT screens (some people have burn in screens after just a couple of months), so I rather have IPS screen over AMOLEDs!
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However IPS displays do not have the dreaded AMOLED burn in problems, where static images (blues and whites are the most problematic) eventually burn in like those old ATM CRT screens (some people have burn in screens after just a couple of months), so I rather have IPS screen over AMOLEDs!
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That does not happen on real life usage. Maybe after using for 2-3 years, the burn in would be visible.
Only time the burn in is visible after months, is on the showroom models which is turned on all the time.
I have my 2 years old S2 and still there's no burn in .
I only get "ghost" if I force the screen to move a million mph. Never on a game or elsewhere.
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That does not happen on real life usage. Maybe after using for 2-3 years, the burn in would be visible.
Only time the burn in is visible after months, is on the showroom models which is turned on all the time.
I have my 2 years old S2 and still there's no burn in .
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tell that to my galaxy nexus with a burned in status bar and navigation bar. better yet, tell that to my galaxy s4 where I did the black status bar mod and within a month those pixels degraded from not being used.
amoled sucks.
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That does not happen on real life usage. Maybe after using for 2-3 years, the burn in would be visible.
Only time the burn in is visible after months, is on the showroom models which is turned on all the time.
I have my 2 years old S2 and still there's no burn in .
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I beg to differ. Happened to me with 2 fascinates. The status bar burned in after about 3 mos. Strangely enough though, I never got it on Motorola amoled screens. We have 3 og razrs in the family, all around 2yrs old, and have no burn-in at all.
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That does not happen on real life usage. Maybe after using for 2-3 years, the burn in would be visible.
Only time the burn in is visible after months, is on the showroom models which is turned on all the time.
I have my 2 years old S2 and still there's no burn in .
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I hope you are talking about ATM Screens burning-in after a few years right? Because AMOLEDS tend to burn in just after a few months under certain conditions and usage.
And to make matters worse, it also burns in WITHOUT EVEN USING IT! UV light also degrades the screen, and if you consider UV to be present even on office lighting then you better place your phone screen side down while on your desk!
If you don't believe me, do some research right here in XDA, there are many examples (with photos) demonstrating such facts!
EDIT: Heck, here's some photos demonstrating a brand new Galaxy Note which had the screen protector (with Ads) on a store shelf. When removed, it revealed screen burn-in! (see the round shape imprinted on the screen).
Cheers!
What is the ghost effect... Time to Google and YouTube I guess...
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What is the ghost effect... Time to Google and YouTube I guess...
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Short answer is: When you scroll a list on your screen, you will notice the letters are somewhat smudged or blurred, and also screen elements leave a trail behind.
Also on high action games some people see the same effect.
For me it's not that noticeable even at 20/20 eyesight. Or at least I don't perceive it as an annoyance.\
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Oh yes. I know about this effect. I have experienced this in past, and strangely on amoled devices. I've never experienced this on G2. Damn you guys and my ocd, now everytime I'll be scrolling I'll be looking for this 'ghost effect'.
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eggman89 said:
That does not happen on real life usage. Maybe after using for 2-3 years, the burn in would be visible.
Only time the burn in is visible after months, is on the showroom models which is turned on all the time.
I have my 2 years old S2 and still there's no burn in .
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My gnexus had burn in twice. First time was about 6 months after getting it. Got a replacement. Second time was about 9 months later. The first burn in was a web page that I had only looked at for a few seconds. It happened almost instantly. I don't know why, but it did. I was always very careful to not leave the screen on and it still happened. Second burn in was the home screen clock widget. This one made a little more sense. Either way, I love not having to worry about it anymore with the g2. I will personally never get a amoled phone ever again.
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I can see the ghost effect,its easy to see when scrooling in apps folder where all the aps are.Doesnt bother me abit tho.The amoleds also have the same problem there arent free from this effect.The only thing i miss is the colors,(but G2 is close enough) i wont talk about blacks,cause they werent that black when you were looking in a dark room.. And until they fix the degration that causes the burn in and all,i wont go back to amoled (so no galaxy ever again for me...).And man the amoled tvs will soon have huge problems lol