Hi,
I have read a great deal about Super AMOLED plus screens having the best blacks because they physically dont turn on the backlight, saving power.
Now i have noticed, When viewing a black screen in the dark, there is actually a fair bit of light leaking through. even though it is "black light" (like on an LCD)
Can anyone else confirm this, or explain it?
Thanks
Its as black as black can be for me.
jayquinten510 said:
Hi,
I have read a great deal about Super AMOLED plus screens having the best blacks because they physically dont turn on the backlight, saving power.
Now i have noticed, When viewing a black screen in the dark, there is actually a fair bit of light leaking through. even though it is "black light" (like on an LCD)
Can anyone else confirm this, or explain it?
Thanks
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Perhaps the black wallpaper is not a pure black, instead it's a combination of colours to make it appear black.
I really can't see it in mine, but I've always wondered about this when looking for a black wallpaper. It's actually hard trying to find the darkest black using a PC, and wondered how you can really tell, as all black wallpapers would be a combination of colours.
I think it would be great for the power saving on the SAMOLED screens if you had an option to select "no" wallpaper or colour, so the background would automatically not actually turn on, using zero power.
This would guarantee you are using the purest BLACK and ultimately ZERO power on the background of your SAMOLED screen.
How does my theory sound
No Wallpaper and Colors apps in the Market will do a pure black wallpaper.
Use a microscope. lol
Actually it is a nice way to do it. Go to hobby town or somewhere and get a cheapy 10.00 microscope and you can look at the actual pixels. Not only can it help you here, but its always rather interesting to see.
Also, keep in mind that even when black, it still does have a little power in it, even if very minute, and still allows light a little bit, even if just in very very very very very minute amounts.
Ohh! Someone else has this to!
What happens is if you look at a pure black in the dark yolu will see almost white / grey areas, and it is not the image it is the same for everything that is 100% black , but is less noticible when something else in on the display, I also have a dark spot in the center of mine when it's on min brightness, Might send to Samsung, Or ask Vodafone they seemed to have a dodgy batch of phones.. this will be my 3rd
So I think it's a defect? The first phone I had didn't do this
MacaronyMax said:
Ohh! Someone else has this to!
What happens is if you look at a pure black in the dark yolu will see almost white / grey areas, and it is not the image it is the same for everything that is 100% black , but is less noticible when something else in on the display, I also have a dark spot in the center of mine when it's on min brightness, Might send to Samsung, Or ask Vodafone they seemed to have a dodgy batch of phones.. this will be my 3rd
So I think it's a defect? The first phone I had didn't do this
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Im glad im not the only one!
Yeah, I already sent my first GS2 back for screen problems, I dont want to have to send it back again and live without it for another 3 weeks. Also, I have subsequently flashed custom roms, so I would prefer not to.
If it ends up breaking, I'll just get the screen replaced when it happens.
Instal lcd test from market. When you see black,its like the screen is off...try it...
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jayquinten510 said:
Im glad im not the only one!
Yeah, I already sent my first GS2 back for screen problems, I dont want to have to send it back again and live without it for another 3 weeks. Also, I have subsequently flashed custom roms, so I would prefer not to.
If it ends up breaking, I'll just get the screen replaced when it happens.
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Hmm, I just ordered a JIG thing to use to set my counter in download mode to 0, should be useful for other things too But as soon as this is herre I think I'm going to send it off I think, It can be annoying
claimui said:
No Wallpaper<snip> apps in the Market will do a pure black wallpaper.
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Excellent, thanks for the tip, it's as black as I'm going to get ;-)
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Anyone noticed that S3 when used with a black wallpaper, its not totally black? Seems that the backlight is still on for blacks compared to S2 which is totally black.
S3 seems kinda grey with black...almost LCD like kinda black.
Do have a try in a dark room. I was surprised. Maybe you too
Will be interested to try this, that slightly greyish hue to blacks was one of the things I disliked about the Nexus screen.
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I'll be happy with my screen...because it is beautiful and big.... sorry you guys need to find every reason to b*tch about an amazing phone ... I don't examine my phones screen while it shows complete white or black screens in the dark ... I use it and watch people marvel at it.
No one ever says to me, "that has a yellow tint to it from here"
Why do u guys constantly find things wrong with phones.. at this rate you'll never be happy.
Keep it Classy, Cali.
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I'll be happy with my screen...because it is beautiful and big.... sorry you guys need to find every reason to b*tch about an amazing phone ... I don't examine my phones screen while it shows complete white or black screens in the dark ... I use it and watch people marvel at it.
No one ever says to me, "that has a yellow tint to it from here"
Why do u guys constantly find things wrong with phones.. at this rate you'll never be happy.
Keep it Classy, Cali.
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It's called being critical. There are a number of things I dislike about my One X. No phone is perfect and if we're not critical and express our dislikes, chances are HTC/Samsung may not fix them with software updates/newer models.
I'm more interested in the potential black clipping issues like on the Galaxy Note. That was unacceptable.
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thegregulator said:
It's called being critical. There are a number of things I dislike about my One X. No phone is perfect and if we're not critical and express our dislikes, chances are HTC/Samsung may not fix them with software updates/newer models.
I'm more interested in the potential black clipping issues like on the Galaxy Note. That was unacceptable.
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Hmm. Interesting. Thanks for putting it into perspective!
Keep it Classy, Cali.
mystifiyer said:
Anyone noticed that S3 when used with a black wallpaper, its not totally black? Seems that the backlight is still on for blacks compared to S2 which is totally black.
S3 seems kinda grey with black...almost LCD like kinda black.
Do have a try in a dark room. I was surprised. Maybe you too
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Amoleds don't have a backlight. Has Samsung toned down the black levels to alleviate black crush and clipping issues?
mystifiyer said:
Anyone noticed that S3 when used with a black wallpaper, its not totally black? Seems that the backlight is still on for blacks compared to S2 which is totally black.
S3 seems kinda grey with black...almost LCD like kinda black.
Do have a try in a dark room. I was surprised. Maybe you too
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Can you try the different display modes and see if it changes?
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The true test is to turn off the lights and pull up your contact list. The background should be as black as night. If it is, then your wallpaper isn't really black -- find a better one.
Baldilocks said:
The true test is to turn off the lights and pull up your contact list. The background should be as black as night. If it is, then your wallpaper isn't really black -- find a better one.
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same wallpaper dude. in fact, that is a transparent png. side by side comparison is that there is some sort of backlight in s3. s2 is completely black. Like I previously mentioned, its in a dark room.
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Can you try the different display modes and see if it changes?
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can only test it after im home tonight.
just checking if anyone have the same experience.
Both my galaxy s and my s 2 never goes completely black if I watch them in complete darkness. Even when the phone is shutting down and doesn't display anything at all. And strangely enough they emit around the same brightness level. As the phones turn of completely, the hue disappears. Even black areas are being powered and I think it's by design. Or maybe slight component variations.
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My screen is flawed when completely black. There are some spots that does not work at all. Like there is ink dropped on the screen.
Anyone else has this?
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Laum said:
My screen is flawed when completely black. There are some spots that does not work at all. Like there is ink dropped on the screen.
Anyone else has this?
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Yup that's the same issue which seemingly all amoled displays have such as sgs2, nexus, note...
Laum said:
My screen is flawed when completely black. There are some spots that does not work at all. Like there is ink dropped on the screen.
Anyone else has this?
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Been using the phone for a week, haven't seen this yet.
I find the blacks to be amazing, better than any phone I have every seen honestly
varun124 said:
Been using the phone for a week, haven't seen this yet.
I find the blacks to be amazing, better than any phone I have every seen honestly
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Ok, thanks for that. My screen is most probably broken then although emahmood87 said that it could be a "feature".
I think that black level is not that great in SGS3 when used in dark room. TBH SGS1 had better blacks.
Laum said:
Ok, thanks for that. My screen is most probably broken then although emahmood87 said that it could be a "feature".
I think that black level is not that great in SGS3 when used in dark room. TBH SGS1 had better blacks.
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Hmm, thats +1 to my claim. Had S1 also. No problem with blacks. TBH, you cant really tell when there is light for normal usage. Just that when watch video, you notice gray instead of the usual expected black.
Laum said:
Ok, thanks for that. My screen is most probably broken then although emahmood87 said that it could be a "feature".
I think that black level is not that great in SGS3 when used in dark room. TBH SGS1 had better blacks.
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Do the following and u will see the blotches or black ink drops.
I posted this on the sgs 3 in pakistan thread and one person confirmed the issue :
"Download Paint Pro its free and open a black background which covers whole the screen and then go in a dark room.... Can u tell me if there are any black blotches on screen example the screen will be in two tones of black or is it perfect black... this was an issue with two sgs2 which i had and also with galaxy nexus... The resaon its an issue because when u r browsing the web say late at night with screen filter enabled u can actually see the black blotches...."
Secondly the issue was only in sgs 2, note and galaxy nexus...have owned all these mobile.. its not really a big issue just was annoying sometimes... sgs 1 had no such issue
emahmood87 said:
Do the following and u will see the blotches or black ink drops.
I posted this on the sgs 3 in pakistan thread and one person confirmed the issue :
"Download Paint Pro its free and open a black background which covers whole the screen and then go in a dark room.... Can u tell me if there are any black blotches on screen example the screen will be in two tones of black or is it perfect black... this was an issue with two sgs2 which i had and also with galaxy nexus... The resaon its an issue because when u r browsing the web say late at night with screen filter enabled u can actually see the black blotches...."
Secondly the issue was only in sgs 2, note and galaxy nexus...have owned all these mobile.. its not really a big issue just was annoying sometimes... sgs 1 had no such issue
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Yeah, I have only been using SGS1 so I haven't witnessed any of those "new" problems. I still might try to exchange this unit to a new one.
Laum said:
My screen is flawed when completely black. There are some spots that does not work at all. Like there is ink dropped on the screen.
Anyone else has this?
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I have this issue on my infuse. Most of them are about 1mm in diameter but the largest one is about 1cm in diameter. I contacted Samsung and they are going to take a look at it.
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Black Level? For what? GSMArena said that = 0. My S3 black display is fine but not perfect . Can not be perfect. Super Amoled = best black display.
on my new galaxy s3 i have noticed in dark backround in dark room i have them bloody annoying black spots. i have recearched it but it only says its a common problem for amoled screens. i have about 8 of these spots one which is huge. only noticable in dark room using black screen. do i get replacement or will that just be a waste of my time?
Let me recap
- you're in a very dark room
- you're watching a black screen
There's an easy hardware-fix to this problem; shortly press the button on the right side of the screen and the blotches will disappear, while the rest of the image (read: black screen) remains intact. [/IRONY]
It's, as you found out, a common sight on AMOLED however it's not an issue. These pixels are simply darker than the others.
Galaxy S3 black ink spots
ok thank you makes sense. but buying a $1000 phone you would not expect something like this. so is this a software or hardware problem sorry for askng??
return it get a new one.
i was planning to but how am i going to prove to the retailer of my problem? first of all it will need to be a very dark room which is unlikely in a shopping mall unless he throws a blanket over his head lol. second of all some people see these things more easily than others, the staff member might not be able even in the right conditions to spot any marks....
Kick his ass and make him go check it in the toilet roms. Tell him not to forget to turn the lights off lol
i wish i could but then he will charge me for rape lol. seriously though im starting to think that if i get a new one it mght even be worse
sell it get the htc one x
well u just went to the shop and they said they will contact samsung tos see if there will he a software update for this... this guy pribz dont know the first thing about phones
Black Dots on my new Samsung S3
Curious NOS said:
on my new galaxy s3 i have noticed in dark backround in dark room i have them bloody annoying black spots. i have recearched it but it only says its a common problem for amoled screens. i have about 8 of these spots one which is huge. only noticable in dark room using black screen. do i get replacement or will that just be a waste of my time?
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I too found 2 dots on my phone. I returned it immediately, got a new one after a week, found 3 dots now . I dont know what to do now.
Even if you return it a million times you'll still get some...
According to supercurio it's a software issue (trigger voltage slightly too low or something like that) and will be fixed with his upcoming 'Display Expert' app
I had some on my S2 and now on my nexus.. To prove it you can download an app called LCD Text (AMOLED) from the market (it has the logo of an RGB circle pattern) and then set it to full brightness and black screen, you will notice them very quickly.
d4fseeker said:
Even if you return it a million times you'll still get some...
According to supercurio it's a software issue (trigger voltage slightly too low or something like that) and will be fixed with his upcoming 'Display Expert' app
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After reading your comment I specifically reached out to supercurio to see what was up with the app. This was his response.. can't say I'm surprised but I thought I'd let you know
https://twitter.com/supercurio/status/214671881004007425
Curious NOS said:
on my new galaxy s3 i have noticed in dark backround in dark room i have them bloody annoying black spots. i have recearched it but it only says its a common problem for amoled screens. i have about 8 of these spots one which is huge. only noticable in dark room using black screen. do i get replacement or will that just be a waste of my time?
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I got black spots too! 2 of them. Should I replace my device or is it normal?
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Looks like Samsung is unable to mass-produce flawless AMOLED displays at the moment because so many people report this issue so this is not an isolated example.
yea well as i mentioned seems though swapping for new one might help or it might just make the problem worse. i think its a factory fault. i mean it does not efect the phone abilities at all but its dam anoying???
romeo57 said:
I got black spots too! 2 of them. Should I replace my device or is it normal?
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you are lucky you only have 2!! you should not worry about that atm. with me its worse i mean 8.... something we just going to have to deal with
Stuff like this that prevents me from pulling the trigger on the sg3 :/
Curious NOS said:
on my new galaxy s3 i have noticed in dark backround in dark room i have them bloody annoying black spots. i have recearched it but it only says its a common problem for amoled screens. i have about 8 of these spots one which is huge. only noticable in dark room using black screen. do i get replacement or will that just be a waste of my time?
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Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III....HTC ONE S....and all of them got same **** man. And is nothing to do about it.
well il be stuck with this phone for 2years on contract just going to have to put up and shut up lol. maybe they will release a fix in a software update?
Anybody here have black spots in their screen?
Its only noticeable when the room is dark and the screen is dark.
For example, when I'm about to go to bed all lights off and I read stuff here on xda using the dark theme. I notice some black spots in the screen. They're everywhere in mine and its annoying.
Can you guys try it and let me know if I'm not the only one.
To see it better try using screen filter app from the market and lower the brightness.
Download the picture and open it with gallery. Zoom in to fill up the whole screen. Let me know if you guys have this too
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you're not the only one. it's a known thing w amoled screens. i have 2 big ones near bottom of screen n many tiny dots. doesn't really bother me. don't wanna go through hassle of trying to exchange not knowing if new one would have or not
TweetyBear said:
you're not the only one. it's a known thing w amoled screens. i have 2 big ones near bottom of screen n many tiny dots. doesn't really bother me. don't wanna go through hassle of trying to exchange not knowing if new one would have or not
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Yeah me too. I guess it is normal. Lol
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Yeah, at this point it's pretty much normal.
You should of seen all the fuss people made about the S2 and even donated a phone to a well known dev to try and somehow fix it only to never get anything back from that dev and everybody's phone still remained the same. Lol.
Some might have it more than others, but at the end we have no choice but to deal with it unless you want to get a different phone.
Powered by the SGSIII
ThC23 said:
Yeah, at this point it's pretty much normal.
You should of seen all the fuss people made about the S2 and even donated a phone to a well known dev to try and somehow fix it only to never get anything back from that dev and everybody's phone still remained the same. Lol.
Some might have it more than others, but at the end we have no choice but to deal with it unless you want to get a different phone.
Powered by the SGSIII
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i'm dealing with it lol this is my first samsung amoled phone and didn't know about the issue til i saw it one night and was like wth? lol but even then, it didn't bother me since you can only see it in a dark room on a black screen.
Welcome to the joy of Oled, thx Samsung.
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I just tested my screen and I have a few very tiny dots then a really nice size one which I wish wasn't there. The little ones don't bother me so much.
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em2drvr03 said:
I just tested my screen and I have a few very tiny dots then a really nice size one which I wish wasn't there. The little ones don't bother me so much.
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I finally got around to testing mine last night, too, and I got lucky as I couldn't detect any ink blotches whatsoever. Even when they are there, they're not noticeable in regular conditions.
Steps to reproduce:
1) Download a completely black image from google images or wherever.
2) Open it fullscreen, turn your phone off, turn the lights off.
3) Wait 10 minutes for your eyes to adjust to pitch black darkness, then turn your phone back on with the black image displayed
4) Check the screen for non-uniformity
I have the problem as well. It does suck, but for me it's not really worth having to go through the exchange steps to get a different one.
I always wondered about them but figured it was just normal I have a big one dead center of the screen. Kinda like a target. Lets hope not for that reason though
guess, I got lucky. My first S3 had 3 spots. The new one is clean!
I'm definitely disappointed with the blacklevels on this display - at least when viewed in extremely dark environments.
I have 1 quite significant black line, and a few dots too. Bleh... wonder what's changed since the S1 screens - black levels were WAY better, and none of this ink marking.
I noticed the black dots, too, but I was able to make them go away with some carefully applied Liquid Paper. No more black dots. Does anyone else have a problem with white dots?
So here is my dilemma and I need some community input or advice. I have a GN2 titanium. I bought it at my employer Bestbuy. Thing is, there is a strange looking line that resembles a tear under the screen that is slightly curved and is about 3/4" long, maybe a tad more. You can ONLY SEE it when the brightness is turned ALL THE WAY DOWN and you are on a screen that is dark. Now if you go into the light with the darkness down all the way it goes away. Full brightness it cannot be seen.Not even at half brightness or 1/4 brightness can it be seen. Thing is I could easily return it BUT bestbuy stopped carrying the titanium on verizon the day they got it! Crazy right , in other words we are sold out of titanium and are not getting more in. I could always get a white one but I don't think I want a white one. Truth be told I think it's just bugging me and need to tell someone lol. If it was your GN2 would you for one even notice it,and if so would you just roll with it? I have to do all the steps above just to see it. I noticed it when watching on mx player in bed at night on low brightness. The touch screen works fine in that area and everything. I wish I could take a picture but I cant seem to get it to show up in a picture.
tl;dr ?
-Strange tear under glass
-causes no touchscreen/pen issues
-only viewable at 0 brightness , in the dark , on a dark image
-exchange for a white GN2
-live with it
jdedeaux said:
So here is my dilemma and I need some community input or advice. I have a GN2 titanium. I bought it at my employer Bestbuy. Thing is, there is a strange looking line that resembles a tear under the screen that is slightly curved and is about 3/4" long, maybe a tad more. You can ONLY SEE it when the brightness is turned ALL THE WAY DOWN and you are on a screen that is dark. Now if you go into the light with the darkness down all the way it goes away. Full brightness it cannot be seen.Not even at half brightness or 1/4 brightness can it be seen. Thing is I could easily return it BUT bestbuy stopped carrying the titanium on verizon the day they got it! Crazy right , in other words we are sold out of titanium and are not getting more in. I could always get a white one but I don't think I want a white one. Truth be told I think it's just bugging me and need to tell someone lol. If it was your GN2 would you for one even notice it,and if so would you just roll with it? I have to do all the steps above just to see it. I noticed it when watching on mx player in bed at night on low brightness. The touch screen works fine in that area and everything. I wish I could take a picture but I cant seem to get it to show up in a picture.
tl;dr ?
-Strange tear under glass
-causes no touchscreen/pen issues
-only viewable at 0 brightness , in the dark , on a dark image
-exchange for a white GN2
-live with it
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I have the same issue but I can easily get a new titanium grey one. I am not going to though because it is hardly ever noticible
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jellydroid13 said:
I have the same issue but I can easily get a new titanium grey one. I am not going to though because it is hardly ever noticible
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thank god im not bat sh!t crazy and someone else has seen this, its strange eh? i think ill sit on it as well
Hmm you sure this isn't just the blotches that show up on amoled screens when it goes dark. If you shut the phone all the way off does the line go away. From what it sounds like without actually seeing the phone it sounds like what I described above. If it is. All the super amoled screens tend to do that
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jdedeaux said:
So here is my dilemma and I need some community input or advice. I have a GN2 titanium. I bought it at my employer Bestbuy. Thing is, there is a strange looking line that resembles a tear under the screen that is slightly curved and is about 3/4" long, maybe a tad more. You can ONLY SEE it when the brightness is turned ALL THE WAY DOWN and you are on a screen that is dark. Now if you go into the light with the darkness down all the way it goes away. Full brightness it cannot be seen.Not even at half brightness or 1/4 brightness can it be seen. Thing is I could easily return it BUT bestbuy stopped carrying the titanium on verizon the day they got it! Crazy right , in other words we are sold out of titanium and are not getting more in. I could always get a white one but I don't think I want a white one. Truth be told I think it's just bugging me and need to tell someone lol. If it was your GN2 would you for one even notice it,and if so would you just roll with it? I have to do all the steps above just to see it. I noticed it when watching on mx player in bed at night on low brightness. The touch screen works fine in that area and everything. I wish I could take a picture but I cant seem to get it to show up in a picture.
tl;dr ?
-Strange tear under glass
-causes no touchscreen/pen issues
-only viewable at 0 brightness , in the dark , on a dark image
-exchange for a white GN2
-live with it
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You bought it at Bestbuy. You guys have a really good return policy. Why not swap it out?
hredder said:
Hmm you sure this isn't just the blotches that show up on amoled screens when it goes dark. If you shut the phone all the way off does the line go away. From what it sounds like without actually seeing the phone it sounds like what I described above. If it is. All the super amoled screens tend to do that
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Wow didnt even think of that lol. Thats definitely it thanks.
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sounds pretty typical of an amoled screen they all suffer from it under very low brightness, I haven't noticed on mine may be because I stopped paying attention for it a long long time ago lol, after having a few phones with amoled screens.
I have the same issue. Even started a thread about it in the Q&A section. Glad I'm not the only one to have it lol
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Yep both my Note 2's have the same problem, both are Titanium Gray. My brother got a launch day Marble White from the Verizon store and his screen is immaculate. Not a single black spot or line on his screen. We flipped the lights and tested them using the same app. Once our eyes adjusted, which didn't take more than 10 seconds, it was immediately clear the difference between my phone and his. His screen not only had a deeper black than mine, but it was free of any markings while mine looked brighter and had noticeable splotches all over.
Niiiiiiice.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Yep both my Note 2's have the same problem, both are Titanium Gray. My brother got a launch day Marble White from the Verizon store and his screen is immaculate. Not a single black spot or line on his screen. We flipped the lights and tested them using the same app. Once our eyes adjusted, which didn't take more than 10 seconds, it was immediately clear the difference between my phone and his. His screen not only had a deeper black than mine, but it was free of any markings while mine looked brighter and had noticeable splotches all over.
Niiiiiiice.
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I don't think the color of the devices have anything to do with it. But all amoled screens are different. I guess I since of the lucky ones mine performs great but had only one little dark spot right under the Samsung logo.
Sent from my rooted galaxy note 2... U mad?
Anyone else having this issue? When I switch to the dark mode it's obvious the black level from one corner to the other is not the same.
A black saturation test clearly shows the bottom row visible when the device is rotated one way and then not visible the other way.
Anyone else getting this? I'm going to ask for a replacement.
Jup i have the same
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Jup i have the same
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Damn, that's almost exactly the same.
I just got a full refund for mine as the shop I bought it from had no stock for a replacement. Another one on the way from another retailer, hoping the display is in better shape.
The quality control on these appears to be a bit crap.
OneUI uses dark grey on the Tab S and Note10... There are many, if not infinite variations of grey that approach black. I do art, so it's easy to notice that #000000 was substituted.
SD_black is black, OneUI simply has a dark mode. Also black cannot be uneven on OLED, because black refers to an off state.
Ace42 said:
OneUI uses dark grey on the Tab S and Note10... There are many, if not infinite variations of grey that approach black. I do art, so it's easy to notice that #000000 was substituted.
SD_black is black, OneUI simply has a dark mode. Also black cannot be uneven on OLED, because black refers to an off state.
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You're just splitting hairs.
Black can appear uneven on defective OLED displays. If you use a black saturation or black clipping test you can clearly see with the tablet or phone rotated one way that the bottom row is barely visible (which is normal), but rotate it another way and suddenly they're all clearly visible, they're only visible because that part of display is defective.
I have OneUI on my phone as well, there is no visible banding and black/gray levels (whatever you want to call them) are uniform. If you're seeing any variation then you got a bad display and you should get it replaced.
Similar here. But mainly noticeable in very low brightness especially with night mode on
With which app do you test it?
LaCereb said:
With which app do you test it?
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Display tester, first match on the play store. Find the black saturation test
Or you can use something like the below, loads of similar tests available on the Play Store or online.
https://www.avforums.com/threads/ho...el-on-oled.2204710/#lg=thread-2204710&slide=0
Replacement arrived today and it's even worse than the first one, instead of one corner it's right down the centre of the display.
Also found an easier way to highlight the issue, using the image tester select the burn in test and move all the sliders to the left, this should give you black. Then slowly move the green slider over, you'll notice some parts of the display become green when the rest remains black, at least up-to a certain point. Took the image below in good lighting.
The Amoled lottery. I had to go through many returns before I got a Tab S3 that didn't have unacceptable display uniformity and things don't seem to have improved a lot since then.
I guess that it's cheaper for Samsung to deal with the returns of customers who notice and care about this than simply having better quality control in the first place. Reviewers of course get cherry-picked samples so the quality of the display can be praised to high heaven.
Really makes me think twice about even considering upgrading though...
same here, You say they change it under warranty?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4856027&stc=1&d=1572041670
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4856029&stc=1&d=1572041670
zsolti256 said:
same here, You say they change it under warranty?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4856027&stc=1&d=1572041670
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4856029&stc=1&d=1572041670
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Is your display like that for every image with that gray scale? Or is it just elements of the UI settings, dialer, contacts etc when you have dark mode enabled?
zsolti256 said:
same here, You say they change it under warranty?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4856027&stc=1&d=1572041670
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4856029&stc=1&d=1572041670
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I'm doing this through Amazon,
I did call Samsung support hoping to speak with someone and they basically just said take it to a Samsung store, I'd rather not waste time with that, they'll just pretend they've never seen the issue before and send me back to retalier for a replacement.
zetsumeikuro said:
Is your display like that for every image with that gray scale? Or is it just elements of the UI settings, dialer, contacts etc when you have dark mode enabled?
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you can even see it on on xda black theme.
But since this is a common issue maybe manufacturing level, I rather leave it like this, because I do not want to end up with an even worse one.
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Anyone else having this issue? When I switch to the dark mode it's obvious the black level from one corner to the other is not the same.
A black saturation test clearly shows the bottom row visible when the device is rotated one way and then not visible the other way.
Anyone else getting this? I'm going to ask for a replacement.
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hi
hours ago i found that when a blank tab is opened in samsung internet (i am using dark mode in system as well as the samsung browser) i could see the uneven black on the screen. i tried to rotate it but still the uneven black was there on the left and right hand sides in landscape mode, and on the top and bottom after i rotated it. so it should not be the ui or one ui problem
i remembered i have read this post so i revisit it and found many of you have the same problem. when i bought this tablet i have check via *#0*# to see how the black was and it's perfect. i also checked with *#0*# before replying to this post and the black was perfect too!
i am too wondering what could be the problem. i think it could be the dark mode which does not use true black (pixel off) in fact
ykkfive said:
hi
hours ago i found that when a blank tab is opened in samsung internet (i am using dark mode in system as well as the samsung browser) i could see the uneven black on the screen. i tried to rotate it but still the uneven black was there on the left and right hand sides in landscape mode, and on the top and bottom after i rotated it. so it should not be the ui or one ui problem
i remembered i have read this post so i revisit it and found many of you have the same problem. when i bought this tablet i have check via *#0*# to see how the black was and it's perfect. i also checked with *#0*# before replying to this post and the black was perfect too!
i am too wondering what could be the problem. i think it could be the dark mode which does not use true black (pixel off) in fact
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Yeah, It's not the dark mode, this issue effects everything.
If it was just One UI I could ignore it, but sadly it's not. Essentially you have different parts of the display clipping at different black levels, even the sections that are relatively good still look patchy.
Samsung screwed us all but it's OK because it's not a popular product so nobody cares, prime example of how useless reviewers are as well because none of them picked up on it, cherry picked parts from Samsung probably.
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Yeah, It's not the dark mode, this issue effects everything.
If it was just One UI I could ignore it, but sadly it's not. Essentially you have different parts of the display clipping at different black levels, even the sections that are relatively good still look patchy.
Samsung screwed us all but it's OK because it's not a popular product so nobody cares, prime example of how useless reviewers are as well because none of them picked up on it, cherry picked parts from Samsung probably.
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tbh, i cant live with it IF it affects my daily usage... but so far, it's acceptable
i will try to fix that once i rooted this tablet, just a matter of time