My wife and I had Motorola XT720s and her USB borked out the other day. Our carrier replaced hers with a Vibrant and sent her on her way. Needless to say, she liked the XT720 and wants me to take the Vibrant. Since we have been on the most unholy of manufacturers (locked bootloader and no updates-yep was sold and bought on 2.1 [eclair kernal] over a year ago) I have been maintaining both our phones. We have successfully upgraded our phones to 2.2, miui, CM6/7 all with the locked bootloader and a little erseverance and a lot of adb learning.
My question is what can I do with the Vibrant and what are the better ROMs that you have? I am not affraid to get into the guts of the phone and work from that way. She just got it yesterday and when I got home, she pitched the switch to me, so this weekend, I'll root it, back up and then checkout the forums to see what is what.
Good ROMs/ Kernals (stability v experimental)?
Overclocking?
How to unlock the bootloader? I kow how on Nexus S but that is not this obviously.
Known issues with the phone in general, either software or hardware (i.e power button breaks after 2 mos. Stuff like that)
I already looked at the sticky nOOb guide for rooting. Is that update.zip the best way. Or should I use z4 or Superoneclick? I used Universal Androot before but that doesn't support Froyo kernals.
Basically, what do you like and and your opinions. The decision will be mine but I like to be informed. And I actually do like to read the threads, but we just got this yesterday and wanted to put out the feelers.
Thanks to all for your help and I look forward to the responses.
first, if your hardware locked, youre gonna havr to find the thread on how to unlock... do this FIRST.
We have several roms, they range from stable to fast and unstable
Imo, that would be froyo like bionix to cm7 respectively.. cm7 flys but its batt sucks and gps is practicallu nonexistant (not that good iin froyo tho)
There is oc up to like 1.7ghz tho my phone doesnt do more than 1.6 stable...
Also, never use kies under any circumstance and learn to use odin Well.
Thats my advice... welcome
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younix258 said:
first, if your hardware locked, youre gonna havr to find the thread on how to unlock... do this FIRST.
We have several roms, they range from stable to fast and unstable
Imo, that would be froyo like bionix to cm7 respectively.. cm7 flys but its batt sucks and gps is practicallu nonexistant (not that good iin froyo tho)
There is oc up to like 1.7ghz tho my phone doesnt do more than 1.6 stable...
Also, never use kies under any circumstance and learn to use odin Well.
Thats my advice... welcome
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That's great. Just the sort of thing I am looking for.
Couple of questions.
As far as OC. Is that an app or is it through a differnt kernal. I know that some kernals oc and undervolt or stock cpu and undervolt. There is an app in the market that was for Motorola that was called Milestone Overclock (I know real original right) and with that and SetCPU was able to oc my 550mhz to 1100. Is there a Vibrant app similar?
How do I tell if my hardware is locked? Once I know, then I will search the threads for that. I already saw some in here with regards to how to do it. I already got into stock recovery last night just to check and see if I could (have't put CWR in or rooted yet-will do that later on tonight). Does this mean it isn't HWL or am I completely missing the target?
Odin I assume is what RSDlite is to Motorola. You power up to bootloader, connect to PC and flash "stock" sbf files (which is basically what came in the box). I always like to have that on hand just in case. I'll google and check it out.
Thanks for the info and glad to be here.
Read the noob stockier guide. Has all the info you need. Also in the development section down load the aio vibrant toolbox. Has Odin, all the files you need. I recommend the rom bi winning V3. It has a kernel that can overclock. You need an app for that tho. I like set CPU because it has profile management for off screen, charging etc.. good luck.
To tell if your hardware locked turn your phone off and hold down both volume rockers and press the power button when you see the vibrant logo pop up, keep holding untilled it goes away then pops up again. Then let go of the power. It should boot into recovery mode. It will be black screen with blue letters that say reboot phone, reinstall packages, wipe data. It may take a few times to get the hang of it. If your unable to then your phones is hardware locked.
Okay, youce been in recov so youre not hw locked.... greggory, you only have to hold power button till you see anything oon the screen the first time... holding it after that just makes it hw reboot whivh works, but is a waste of time.
Okay OP, odin has some nice ffeatures that let you flash bootloaders and firmware both.. truthfully, you can flash ANY rewritable media in your phone except internal and external sd from.odin afaik.
Oc requires an oc kernel and an oc app... app for ocing include voltage control, which was made for samsung galaxy s, set cpu, which i dislike, cpu master, no-frills ... all of em work most of the time and i use Voltage control..
Am i forgetting tto address anything?
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Ok so I've been using for a few days & I have to say the I really like this phone. Rooted and installed CWR lickity-split. Want to mess around and get more comfortable with surroundings, but have a few questions.
I dl'd Tegrak OC and am using it just fine. Any suggestions on stock kernal settings. Not applying any ROMs/Kernals for now, but setting suggestions would be helpful.
Got USB connection loop. Think I have a fix for that. Need to test some more.
Do I really have to name it update.zip to make "it" work, or can I name it anything else. Tried a few other names and they don't seem to install. Update.zip v buttermilkbiscuit.zip. why?
Does zipthemer work on this phone and do I have to name it Update.zip to make it work?
To change fonts, where do I put ttf? In settings there is a font changer, but where is the folder for that. Know it isn't /system/fonts BC that is a global changer but can't find it anywhere else. Looked in /data, /android and /sdcard. Clues?
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Ok so I've been using for a few days & I have to say the I really like this phone. Rooted and installed CWR lickity-split. Want to mess around and get more comfortable with surroundings, but have a few questions.
I dl'd Tegrak OC and am using it just fine. Any suggestions on stock kernal settings. Not applying any ROMs/Kernals for now, but setting suggestions would be helpful.
Got USB connection loop. Think I have a fix for that. Need to test some more.
Do I really have to name it update.zip to make "it" work, or can I name it anything else. Tried a few other names and they don't seem to install. Update.zip v buttermilkbiscuit.zip. why?
Does zipthemer work on this phone and do I have to name it Update.zip to make it work?
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Ok i think you should flash rom an kernel it takes phone to another an you do have to name it update.zip that is what recovery looks for an that is how custom one is installed i dont know what zip themer is but if u mean apply thme with zip then yes u can
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Ok i think you should flash rom an kernel it takes phone to another an you do have to name it update.zip that is what recovery looks for an that is how custom one is installed i dont know what zip themer is but if u mean apply thme with zip then yes u can
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I'll flash soon enough, just want to get my feet wet a bit. Only had phone for two days, so still picking and searching. More suggestions on ROMs/kernals, other than above?
Zipthemer is sweet. It takes all unzipped Metamorph.xmls, packages into one .zip and also creates and undo.zip too. Great themer.
There is a font changer in settings, but where is the folder to put the ttf file? /system/font is global, but looked in /data and /android and can't figure where to put it.
Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Lmao I was reading this thread going .... is wood trolling us right now till the last post then I looked at the dates lol
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Woodrube said:
Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Lol ... I couldn't resist! Just had to take a peak here - esp. seeing Woody's name and "New to the phone" in the title!! :what:
Woodman ...
The Vibrant fora wouldn't be the same experience without your participation, brother. Your ICS Guide thread (and our extensive GB BL discussion ... lol) originally inspired me to take the ICS leap (as well build the nerve to finally register and participate in threads here - ie. I was a long time "lurker"). Haven't looked back since.
Thanks for your efforts to ensuring all our Vibrant experiences stay ... well ... "Vibrant"!
That is funny. I just went back a re-read that thread. There is some good Q and A in there about all types of scenarios. Alot of familiar names too that have moved up in the ranks of experience as well.
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That is funny. I just went back a re-read that thread. There is some good Q and A in there about all types of scenarios. Alot of familiar names too that have moved up in the ranks of experience as well.
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Haha ... I just did the same. That thread could have been called, "Everything you wanted to know about ICS ... but weren't afraid to ask." Hilarious.
I'm not sure what wasn't discussed. We hit all the corners including some homescreen screenshots as icing on the cake. Great (re)read!
I completely forgot that some of the Zen crew had joined in ... Mostdef, bobshute, xriderx66. Lol. :thumbup:
Noobs these days
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This was fun to read, seeing Wood just entering the Vibrant community. The new guy on the block. Now look at you, you're one of the most recognized Vibrant users.
I remember my first post on XDA. I was messing around with Rom Manager and accidentally installed CWR. You wouldn't believe how much I was panicking, I thought I had bricked my phone! Lol, shows how much I knew.
Actually, that's why my name is "N00B_IN_N33D", because I was a noob who was in need of help. After I figured out how to Odin back to stock, which removed the (what I thought was) evil CWR I thought I wouldn't mess with my phone anymore. However s15274n talked me into flashing a custom froyo rom, Trigger, if I remember correctly. From there I blossomed in my understanding of Android and my Vibrant...
Anyhow, back on topic. It's amazing how experienced people have become here.
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Noobs these days
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We all growed up real good.
N00B_IN_N33D said:
This was fun to read, seeing Wood just entering the Vibrant community. The new guy on the block. Now look at you, you're one of the most recognized Vibrant users.
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Anyhow, back on topic. It's amazing how experienced people have become here.
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The Woodman deserves his due "respect" (but you have to say it the way AliG would to get the full effect). True Zen-like patience and an extremely rare dedication to help people. He's good peoples. No doubt!
Speaking of the way-back machine ... I can't even remember what Froyo was like. Do you? Then there's Eclair (yikes!). :what: I do remember the jump from Froyo to GB was pretty substantial. CM7 with those novel toggle bars and major speed boosts. Then ICS just took the phone to another level.
I remember the first time I rooted my phone, I was soooo damn nervous that I'd end up with a brick. I was just using SuperOneClick ... lol. The first time using Odin after reading all the horror stories here. The first time waiting through the VLF EXT4 conversion (seemed to take forever).
Been a fun ride.
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The first time waiting through the VLF EXT4 conversion (seemed to take forever).
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The first time I flashed a Froyo Voodoo kernel, I was in my basement watching a west coast baseball game and it was late. The wife and kids were asleep and like you said, it took forever. Forgot to turn the volume off when I did it. So I am sitting there watching the game and I see the Bali palm tree. I think cool, whatever. I return to the game and out of nowhere, I hear this lady's voice. Thought it must have been the parabolic on TV picking up some lady in the stands. Then I hear it again. Kind of freaked me out until I realized it was LINDA. I'll tell ya, if you are ready for her, she'll freak you the f**k out.
Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I remember one of the many freak out, panic sessions I've had in the past and there was always someone who helped me out. Just feel it is my duty to give back. Now if I can solve this Encryption Error bug, I'll have come full circle. It is driving me nuts.
I remember one of my first threads back in 2009
It was a fake Hero ROM for G1
I bashed on two devs and everyone was pissed at me....then when I moved to the Vibrant I got a clean start
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The first time I flashed a Froyo Voodoo kernel, I was in my basement watching a west coast baseball game and it was late. The wife and kids were asleep and like you said, it took forever. Forgot to turn the volume off when I did it. So I am sitting there watching the game and I see the Bali palm tree. I think cool, whatever. I return to the game and out of nowhere, I hear this lady's voice. Thought it must have been the parabolic on TV picking up some lady in the stands. Then I hear it again. Kind of freaked me out until I realized it was LINDA. I'll tell ya, if you are ready for her, she'll freak you the f**k out.
Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I remember one of the many freak out, panic sessions I've had in the past and there was always someone who helped me out. Just feel it is my duty to give back. Now if I can solve this Encryption Error bug, I'll have come full circle. It is driving me nuts.
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atleast your LINDA issue was panicked and gone.
I was in the bathroom taking a dump while the conversion went on... it freaked me out, and my mom thought i was watching porn in there -.-'
She then told this story at our family reunion... Almost died of embarrassment
Related
Eugene has produced a new ROM. I didn't format the title because it is not my ROM to post, but I wanted to share the link for people in the meantime.
Hero To Slide Beta:
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=14095#post14095
Keyboard lights work
You should still format the title properly, just give credit to Eugene...
WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?!? how the heck did i miss this lol i peruse the forums a ton i figured i'd see somethign like this haha
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WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?!? how the heck did i miss this lol i peruse the forums a ton i figured i'd see somethign like this haha
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He posted it late last night on twitter
Has anyone flashed this rom? I'm not too interested in ports on my Slide, but I'd like to hear the thoughts of people who have installed this.
Personally, I'm sticking with SlideM until CM5/6 arrives for the Slide.
i flashed it.....It stalls,big time for me...and before anyone goes"did you wipe(lol)" yes I did...ohh and did the mount system to but to no avail still stalls and freezes!
But it is fast but just freezes too much...went back to slide m
on another note, which do you guys like better SlideM or the Legend rom?
Did you run your log cat to see that it was indeed frozen
Remember Custom ROMS can take up to 15 minutes to flash in some cases, although on this phone I dont think it will ever be that high.
I thought mine was frozen but it turned out it just needed 7 minutes or so to load.
The logcat looked plenty busy
Thanks to kingofyo1 for teaching me how to check if the phone actually is frozen
anyways ill be sticking to the SLIDEM rom till someone builds a good kernal to overclock or a froyo rom or CM rom.
Mine kept freezing too .. But I didn't check my logcat..
Been loving legend... Except for no genius button...
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well i flashed it, and im at work, so cant logcat.. and i tried installing setcpu, because the kernel looked slightly different, i was thinking he may have implemented the OC kernel(hopes and dreams ) and i got a lock. restarted and then tried setcpu again, and locks still there >.< so i am guessing either superuser is messed up or something, will try a different root program and see if possibly its the program or the superuser.. overall its a good looking rom, check back on my slide bible for my scores if interested
I just clocked it. 3 minutes 14 seconds
After about 51 seconds you will get the little heropetit image. than an HTC for the remaining time.
Just relax and go away from the phone for a few minutes. I also filmed this.
So yea....i used it like i said...and im already back on using SlideM
BTW i changed a tire while this was loading and was still stuck after multiple boots.
OMFG 3.8 LINPACK!!! and second time is 3.3, 3rd is 3.5 4th is 4!!! 5th -8 is 4.1
can you say quickest slide rom to date??
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OMFG 3.8 LINPACK!!! and second time is 3.3, 3rd is 3.5 4th is 4!!! 5th -8 is 4.1
can you say quickest slide rom to date??
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Any luck with SetCPU?
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Any luck with SetCPU?
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working on it... no such luck yet, i'll post if i can get it working :/
newest ver of setcpu makes device unresponsive >.< never get a su request either on it >.>
Eugene has been working on a kernal to let us overclock. I saw some pics from him posted some where last night.
the superuser.apk is out of whack.. replacing it now and we will see what happens guys. wish me luck? lol
EDIT: cant seem to drop the stock su, dont have adb at this time with me so i cant do it that way either.. anyone else having troubles with su perms?
Tried it again and it boots.....but then just freezes.....i tried to uninstall superuser and wouldnt but installed setcpu.apk and opened her up and now my phone is stuck/frozen/locked up.....
Will be staying on SlideM till these issues are resolved
my biggest issue is the trackpad is messed up,
up=right
down=left
left=up
right=down
there are also some graphical issues that aren't incredibly bothersome, but stuff is just a little offcenter in landscape
if someone is a member of the community where eugene's original post is hosted, would you mind copying the images he attached over here?
So the recent happenings have got me wondering how compatible the captivate kernel is with the Fascinate. What are the possible issues with trying to flash one now that we have nandroid?
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So the recent happenings have got me wondering how compatible the captivate kernel is with the Fascinate. What are the possible issues with trying to flash one now that we have nandroid?
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Wouldn't recommend it.. It took me and angel ~2 hours to recover when I flashed the i9000 LeshaK kernel.. of course now we could recover in about 10 minutes having that experience, but that was a long @$$ two hours when you don't know if it was bricked for good or not.
We're in a much better place "safety-net" wise than we were a week or two ago. That doesn't mean we should proceed with reckless abandon. If there's some up-side to flashing the Captivate kernel that I'm not aware of, and it would really make things better for you, go right ahead. If you just want to do it for the hell of it, that's a little different.
I'm all for balls-out research, but make sure you're ready to handle the consequences if things don't go the right way.
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Wouldn't recommend it.. It took me and angel ~2 hours to recover when I flashed the i9000 LeshaK kernel.. of course now we could recover in about 10 minutes having that experience, but that was a long @$$ two hours when you don't know if it was bricked for good or not.
We're in a much better place "safety-net" wise than we were a week or two ago. That doesn't mean we should proceed with reckless abandon. If there's some up-side to flashing the Captivate kernel that I'm not aware of, and it would really make things better for you, go right ahead. If you just want to do it for the hell of it, that's a little different.
I'm all for balls-out research, but make sure you're ready to handle the consequences if things don't go the right way.
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I know how to handle the consequences. Jump on here and ***** and moan until the smart people flame the **** out of me and then walk me step by step through a restore about five times.
I was just wondering because of the early processes from yesterday flashing the captivate kernel to get the clockwork running. Thought maybe it was compatible, and if so, then what about the custom kernels?
I'm a little reckless, but I learned after my first G1 brick that sometime's it's better to ask if there's water in the pool before a dive.
Thanks. I'll try to be patient.
We never got the captivate kernel to boot. Just attached our kernel with the captivate recovery.
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*Noob alert!!!* Ok, now that ive gotten ur attention that im a loser who lies about girls and that i dont fully know what im doing... Not just here... but in life, but i digress...
My statement and question is... Ive been doing alot of playing around on my Galaxy T959. Its been great! I went from first time rooting, flashing roms, kernels and modems.. Sucess the First try!!.. (Very Nice! #1!!) and I owe everything to everybody on here cause you guys rock... (Enough of my a$$ ki$$ing)(for now)(I think).. Anywho, I thought I flashed Bionix v 1.3.1 on my phone. After tryin kernels in this order i flashed; Overstock then Dead Horse then Dow Then back to Overstock because for some reason or another me got scared with 1.4ghz(to much pressure on my mind).. Now that I flashed back to overstock, my phone info says my "Build number" Nero v4 w/ dow 2.2.1 ... But before it said Bionix v1.3.1?!!! Wud eyes doo? Am i missing something here?
Be easy, In school my teachers said the only thing i could retain was water...
P.S. I love you but im not "in love" with you
P.S.P.S I lied, I do love you
ha, got to love an original post.
That doesn't make sense. The kernel wouldn't change the build, are you certain you were on bionix? I don't use it, but I wouldn't think they would have left it saying nero.
You've done a lot, why not just backup and try a fresh rom flash?
Ummmmmmmmm...ahhhhh...Im Prettttty sure?... Bionix Was deffinetly the last rom i flashed.. I think.. Dam it!! I have bad ADHD which is Attention Deficit in High Deff.. I think i was doing like 3245 tasks at the moment of flashing (none i finished).. And now im just as confused as a... well, i dont know... Insert something witty and funny that would explain confusion... But yeahhhhhh, Imma just gonna try a new combo anyways.. I get bored easy, just ask my 13 ex girlfriends from this past month (lies) ok, ok, ok... ask my therapist then... I know my T959 can handle 1.4ghz, Do you know of the sickest most awesome combo that would literaly make my eyes turn into steel? or something that is cool?... Thanks mang
I don't understand your question. And I can't stop thinking about naked chicks. Thanks alot, dude.
Ok so here's what happened. When you flashed DoW, it had a file in there that overwrote the same file on your ROM which identified your build. When you flashed the kernel it copied files to your phone and it had a file in there which changes the version number of the phone. The kernel changed it to say "Nero w/dow" or whatever. Simple as that. Doesn't mean you're running Nero.
Did that make sense?
^ must kernels don't change the build, wonder why dow opted to... Hence overstock not changing it back.
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Ok so here's what happened. When you flashed DoW, it had a file in there that overwrote the same file on your ROM which identified your build. When you flashed the kernel it copied files to your phone and it had a file in there which changes the version number of the phone. The kernel changed it to say "Nero w/dow" or whatever. Simple as that. Doesn't mean you're running Nero.
Did that make sense?
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Well someone stayed @ a Holiday Inn Express last night!.. Cool, I kinda understand.. Its not so much that my "Build" is what it says... But its that I have an excess of extra info/files on my SD ... probally cause I havent wiped correctly?... I think im smelling what the Rock is cooking... Or that my upper lip... Will post when I know
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^ must kernels don't change the build, wonder why dow opted to... Hence overstock not changing it back.
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Ill keep doing what ive been doing for 6.5 weeks then... totally ignoring my parents my brother my sister my girlfriend my teachers and society as a whole(i would of also included my work as well but, come on... Ive been doing that for years) just so I can read keep reading the forums all day and all night long untill I have the bestest, fastest and coolest phone in the world.... But with a empty phone book because I would of lost all my friends at that point.. And that my good sir is why there is free mobile porn.
By the way... Im honored that you replied to my question!... It took me a sec to realize it was you who wrote the Noob Guide... And let me just say... You have created a monster (with no friends)
Ive done this aswell, dow does that and it will remain there till you flash another rom or reflash the one your on,imo overstock is better than dow,ive noticed occasional overheating,and other minor issues with dow that ive not gotten with overstock
using Bionix V-1.3 w/a Splash of Color
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Ive done this aswell, dow does that and it will remain there till you flash another rom or reflash the one your on,imo overstock is better than dow,ive noticed occasional overheating,and other minor issues with dow that ive not gotten with overstock
using Bionix V-1.3 w/a Splash of Color
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I had this experience as well, not sure why it did what it did. My suggestion is like others reflash back to stock and flash a new rom, try the trigger, Very nice and very fast. STAY AWAY of Running in the 1.4 + speed, the phone just can't handle it without some additional go fast pills to help it keep up. And, since the go fast pills for the phone have not been invented yet, just run it @ 1.3
Good luck-a-roo
Sweet tomatoes Batman!!.. Thats good stuff...Im glad im not the only one... Well... Oh By the way... Have i told u the joke about the broken pencil... ah never mind theres no point... Walka Walka (wanna hear a funny ass joke)- new voice over Fozzie
I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
* please note voodoo is not enabled, if you have voodoo, disable it before flashing if you don't odin back to jfd first.
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
Question remains, is voodoo necessary?
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I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Good question! I was actually wondering this the other day. I tried a few different ROMs without lagfix.
I was wondering the same thing about it. "Is lagfix just a workaround to cheat higher quadrant scores?"
After a day or so on any ROM I tried without lagfix you would notice a slow down mainly in shutting down programs. Sometimes they would take up to 5 seconds to close! Opening programs slowed some but not nearly as noticeable. The dialer would take some time to open as well.
So in my experience lagfix seems to speed the phone in read/write capabilities. Which I imagine is what it was desinged for. You notice in Quadrant, that is where the most improvement is (In I/O).
So if you arent a real big phone geek (like most of us probably are) then the lagfix shouldnt make a huge difference to you. But, for me, I like my phone to fly doing anything. So lagfix enabled here!
It's not all about the speed. Its good to have a standard. This phone should've been on ext4 from the start. Supercurio has done a great job getting everyone switched over. I don't believe rfs is supported in cwm3+ either.
Just my opinion. I always use it. If I flash something else its an easy fix. Just flash an ext4 compatible kernel!
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I just reread your post, and I've never had a problem restoring backups. In fact, I flashed to an i9k Gingerbread ROM this morning, played around with it for a while (read: smashed my face against the gps), flashed a Froyo kernel and restored my nandroid without ever using ODIN or RFS
rfs = sux ballz (wen i first got my phone and started rooting one of the first things out of my mouth was wtf is rfs!)
ext4 = ahh, thats btr
I agree that stock felt oddly similar with voodoo enabled and disabled when i tried it for a day yesterday.
I disagree that you cant restore nandroids with CwMRecovery. For me it seems like its hit and miss which i'm gonna continue to test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13284392#post13284392
Don't get me wrong....
Like I said, I love Voodoo.. I've only considered EXT4 and it is my preference... thought I made that clear.
BUT, I have not noticed any difference with it vs. using jellette's ROM, and that is really surprising to me. I know it can tend to "slow down" over time (which I do not understand why).. but changing from app to app I am noticing no difference.
Regarding restoring backups....
I said that because the man himself made THIS COMMENT just yesterday. I have had issues in the past (5 x maybe) where a restore failed, never knowing why. I've also had them restore fine, not sure why the difference.
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I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Thanks for the info on Jelletts ROM. I am definitely going to try it out. I don't know about voodoo will test your theory for myself but kudos to Supercurio and the wonders he has made for us in the mean time.
I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I understood you perfectly.. just didn't want others to think I was trying to say something I was not. Thanks man.
Talked to Ben Buchacher, you know the creator of SuperD.
I asked him what ROM and if he had lagfix.
He said he was using stock 2.2 and no lagfix, the lag went away in 2.2
PS he said TW ROMs weren't great.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Yea! A long time ago.
He is waiting for cm7 to get stable to start working
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
You keep saying your using his rom, but which one are you referring to in hist thread? there is a 2.2.1 and a 2.2
I tried the 2.2 and it was laggy like the stock 2.2 and I have taken my phone all the way back to closed box and brought it up to 2.2(KB5) and there is always lag there. I don't mind Touchwiz but when a couple weeks go by and my phone starts crawling across the ground like a drunken sailor it gets a little aggravating.
Basically in my experience any rom, and I mean any, with or without voodoo runs great for a few weeks, but then the slowness comes back and you start to notice apps taking longer to open and close, MMS really starts to lag as well as the keyboard when typing. the gallery really takes a hit and showing pictures off on my 500 dollar 1Ghz phone becomes embarrassing. So with or without voodoo stock 2.2 on the Vibrant seems to run great but runs out of gas in a few weeks, some may last a month. 2.2.1(sucks with no Wifi calling) seems to keep going much better, and the browser is faster. So if your running 2.2.1 of his then yea you might see a better faster rom, but if you run his 2.2 I bet after a few weeks of regular use you will start seeing lag and get frustrated. And I bet even the 2.2.1 will start to crawl at some point.
Now I'm not dissing his rom or anyone else's. They are all based off of the crap the Samsung shoved out the door and yea a few tweaks here and there help, but every rom always seems to start crawling at some point and nothing seems to bring it back to day one other then reflashing.
Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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which rom are you running the 2.2.1 or 2.2
The only thing really keeping me on 2.2 roms is wifi calling.
I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I have gotten that on quite a few roms including two versions of trigger and three stock builds. I get out of it by pressing the power button 3-5 times giving about 1-2 seconds between presses and it eventually came back.
I might try the 2.2 build out eventually.
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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I'm not a fan of putting anyones work down.. especially when it's free/
I once knew a dog by the name of Raphael Francisco Sanchez. He pooped in the same place everyday, and then walked through it like the dumb mutt he was. Over time the poop built up till eventually the dog could no longer run and play with all the other little doggies, and when the lawnmower came around that spring, Raphael Francisco Sanchez barked his last bark.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158951
That can probably be done with this phone since it uses the same chipset as the E3D and Sensation. Once I get mine next tuesday/wednesday ill see what I can do about getting this module to work.
If anyone takes a look at it, post anything you have tried. This could in theory at the very least allow an undervolt which would help offset the LTE power sucking.
Yeah see I wwas talking about this earlier. I think this will work. I PMed viperboy who actually wrote one of the bloatware scripts when we had temproot. Just waiting for a response AMD hope to get a jump start on this. Good idea starting this thread tho
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Yeah see I wwas talking about this earlier. I think this will work. I PMed viperboy who actually wrote one of the bloatware scripts when we had temproot. Just waiting for a response AMD hope to get a jump start on this. Good idea starting this thread tho
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Coming from the bravoc which has almost zero development aside from 2fast at his site I am used to just thinking of things to try. I was able to port a couple dinc roms to it even though I was told it couldn't be done. I hope to be much more involved with development here since there are already more posts in this section than there were in a year at the site dedicated to the bravoc
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Coming from the bravoc which has almost zero development aside from 2fast at his site I am used to just thinking of things to try. I was able to port a couple dinc roms to it even though I was told it couldn't be done. I hope to be much more involved with development here since there are already more posts in this section than there were in a year at the site dedicated to the bravoc
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Yeah I.hear ya. I.haven't gotten much Involved myself buy then again I'm no dev LOL. But I k.ow my way around a bit. But I think the dev section is gonna he hoppin as well.
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It took a few days to get that inc port almost bugfree (usb pc transfer wouldn't work) but it was otherwise fine iirc. I hope that with support and other work to use as examples i can make some stuff for this device that isn't either a variation of AOSP or a sense port that has some serious drawbacks.
I am personally more interested in the possibility of underclocking and undervolting than OCing. Or maybe OCing and undervolting like I did with my droid x - can really help save some battery and allow the phone to sip less juice. This phone is so new I am getting ahead of myself, but hopefully in time we can get root/roms/OCing and undervolting apps to work on the Rezound.
I normally run my battery on performance mode on all my phones. I set it to normal, and with the equivalent usage I get 1/3 better battery life. I even leave all my antenna's on(except WiFi when I am away).
Just to let everyone know what I tried. I took the file for "unsupported phones" from the link's thread and changed the version number to match the rezound, which is -- 2.6.35.13-g20c5d1d -- . As you can see it was not just the ending part starting with the 'g' that needed to be changed as ours is 2.6.35.13 and the file was made for 2.6.35.10. But since a reboot resets everything I tried it by changing only the part starting with 'g' and it failed saying "Exec format error". So I then changed the entire version string to match ours and adb actually completed the task but the phone rebooted immediately and everything was wiped out again.
I did this before the kernel source was put up on the forums but since I dont have ANY knowledge of messing with kernels I am no help there, but hopefully this can help someone get this mod going for the Rezound.
we don't have perma root like the 3vo did so I don't think this will work until then. But this was a band aid until the kernel source was released so this won't even be necessary anymore.
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we don't have perma root like the 3vo did so I don't think this will work until then. But this was a band aid until the kernel source was released so this won't even be necessary anymore.
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The guy who made Setcpu made a script that allowed oc on the stock kernel on the 3D. It was before perm root. It was right after agrabren found the first exploit and a reboot would return the phone to stock. You temp rooted ran the script from adb and used Setcpu to oc.. Some of the smoothest kernel action the 3D had.. I'm sure same thing is potentially there, just need someone smart enough to do..
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send me a link. Ill take a look at the script.
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The guy who made Setcpu made a script that allowed oc on the stock kernel on the 3D. It was before perm root. It was right after agrabren found the first exploit and a reboot would return the phone to stock. You temp rooted ran the script from adb and used Setcpu to oc.. Some of the smoothest kernel action the 3D had.. I'm sure same thing is potentially there, just need someone smart enough to do..
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Yeah I rememba that man. I was just talking about that the other day. I also mentioned that maybe we can use that somehow but I wouldn't know where TP start. But we need a stable Temp Root first I think. Not degrading anyone's work either.
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send me a link. Ill take a look at the script.
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It will take me a little time to find. I don't think I have the script on sd anymore and the thread is buried deep. I shall go look.
Edit: ironically easier than I thought to find. Here is the thread from the 3D forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158951
And I know for a fact this worked and worked well. I used for a while, well up until we were s-off..
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sooooooo set cpu works with root....i made a profile for screen off. seems to be working.....
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sooooooo set cpu works with root....i made a profile for screen off. seems to be working.....
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Cool. I did find a tidbit that might (don't get your hopes up and basically pretend I didn't even say this) make root last longer. Obviously until I have my rezound for the next few days I can't even think about testing anything.
Then put it out there for us to test! Don't be selfish! lol
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Then put it out there for us to test! Don't be selfish! lol
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I will once I get around to writing it. I am in class right now then I am driving 5 hours home. So maybe tomorrow afternoon Ill get a script working. Also, I may have figured out a way to disable elements of sense in an automated script(for those that don't like sense).
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It took a few days to get that inc port almost bugfree (usb pc transfer wouldn't work) but it was otherwise fine iirc. I hope that with support and other work to use as examples i can make some stuff for this device that isn't either a variation of AOSP or a sense port that has some serious drawbacks.
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Since I happened to venture to theses parts since our buddy plat ventured to this. I am a bit surprised to see you switched. How ever the module you are talking about in the op I am pretty sure you can't just hex edit the kernel version. As the kernel will be different for the device compared to that of the evo 3d. If it is anything like doing the g2 version for the htc merge that is. Where it had to be recompiled to work correctly.
I am sure one of the dev's familiar in here with building source code could get it done up. If it works after that I am unsure. Though con you ported the sense hd rom from the inc to the desire. That was the only one that you had ported. Followed by you followed samuel2706's guide and other info he gave you. Then you came to me to ask how I fixed the mms and verizon branding in the rom. In which I told you how to fix it but you put it off as you fixed it. As you are putting off in here.