I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
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Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
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kirbygonzalo, thanks but even googling it I couldn't find anything about wire stripe or ribbon.
sdk16420 said:
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
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sdk16420, thanks for sharing this, It is somehow a relief for me to know I'm not alone in this. Yet, I'll wait until next week to see if I can find more explanations, and then maybe I'll return it for a replace. It's especially bad for me, as I waited a lot to receive the silver one (a week or so), and I don't know if I can find another.
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It doesn't depend on Bravia Engine, unfortunately. It was also the first thing that came into my mind, tried it several times, even with deactivating and rebooting, but the effect is persistent.
Again, it's only visible on light backgrounds, especially white and large ones (browser, gmail, etc). If you read this, please check yours also find some time to post a reply with the result. I would be very grateful.
Thanks!
I have the blue model but i can barely see that pattern with a screen flashlight (on full white) and i don't find it annoying at all in daily use of the phone.
You can check the screen from a new phone in a shop, to see if it looks like yours ... or you have a eagle eye
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I think I can see what you're talking about on my Red Neo but only if I max the screen brightness and look really closesly (like practically inserting the Neo into my eye). 99.99% of the time I don't notice a thing.
I just followed your description and found the same with my neo, so I think it the LCD design. Not an issue to me indeed.
Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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When I put brightness on 100%, and hold my finger on the light sensor, I don't see the screen getting darker. What does annoy me is that you can't make the brightness less than about 30%. I use widgetsoid for brightness adjustment, and the screen will only become darker than 30% if I hold my finger on top of the sensor. That sucks. I I want to sacve energy, I have to hold my hand there, while using the phone.
I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I use it a lot outside, and its sunlight legibility isn't as good as SAMOLEDs or others, but that I knew from reviews before the buy. If it wasn't for the problem in this thread, I wouldn't be so harsh on it.
LE I se new posters here. Do you noticed the problem described in the first post? Does it bother you?
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hello community,
does anyone beside me notice the screen going blurry while scrolling? best seen at websites with white background and dark letters. it really gives me headaches.
also noticeable while on websites is, that it's not only blurry but also graphics get pixelated everytime I scroll and resharp everytime when scrolling stops.
is this something special about the samoled+? bad refreshrate? maybe fixable? I'm using the phone rooted with normal ke2 firmware and kernel.
thx for your opinions.
I've gone through 4 (FOUR) Samsung Galaxy S2's with replacements due to various issues (overheating, restarting, corrupted screen) And on ALL of them, they blur with fast movement on the screen, especially noticeable, as you said, when it's dark text against a white background. This is purely becuause of the slow response time on the screen. It's a hardware issue, nothing you can do it about it.
Also graphics get pixellated when scrolling as the android OS lowers the quality of graphics while scrolling to make scrolling smoother.
These aren't really problems. Everyone is experiencing the same things as you and I. If anyone says otherwise it's purely because they can't notice it due to bad eyes or whatever but I assure you, it's perfectly normal.
thx for your quick response.
I feared that it's disappointing for such an expensive device. to me, it's kinda like looking at a bade configured screen or something like that.
so no weapon against a low response time, but graphics getting pixelated on a dual-core-monster ... i can go with that on weaker devices, but on this phone ... do you think it's worth asking if somebody knows how to disable that android "feature"?
and let me guess that other phone-screens (like LG optimus speed, which would be the nearest to an alternative) have that blurry problem too ... ?
thx again and feeling sorry for your 4 phones. but you still stick with samsung!
Noticed it too... However it is better here than on the incredible s I had for a couple of days.
With the graphical issue you mean the pictures getting bigger pixels when touching the screen huh?
Are you also having alot of these chess-like patterns while scrolling? Like on the iphone. Is this the browser that does it?
Yeah I was disappointed when I noticed the slow response time myself, especially considering this is a top end device.
I can't say if other comparable devices would have the slow response/blurry screen aswell as manufacturers always exaggerate the specs of screens to 'best case scenario' results, which is completely unrealistic. For example, Samsung states that the screen on the Galaxy S2 has a response time of 0.001ms, which if true, there would be absolutely no hint of blurring at all, however, as I said, they'd of measured it in a best case scenario, they were most likely giving the response time for GTG (or grey to grey, the time it takes for a pixel to turn from grey, to white then back to grey) and with the brightness set to max, I'd imagine 0.001ms wouldn't be far off the true result. However, they should really test BTB, or black to black, which is the time it takes for a pixel to turn from black, to white to black again, and this is the figure that Samsung did not quote, as it's a lot slower than 0.001ms (hence why black text on a white background shows noticeable amounts of blurring). But by my testing, I'd put the screen realistically, closer to 6ms.
And about the graphics turning to lower quality when scrolling, technically yes, this could be 'fixed' as its a software issue.
And yeah I'm sticking with Samsung, after I went through all those replacements, I finally got a decent one that has no issues (touch wood).
correct, as soon as the screen notices your finger it pixels the graphics ... argh! someone should disable that. it's 2011 and powerful enough!
and yes, chess patterns here too. even on less complex sites. never noticed that before in any preview-videos though. so again
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Noticed it too... However it is better here than on the incredible s I had for a couple of days.
With the graphical issue you mean the pictures getting bigger pixels when touching the screen huh?
Are you also having alot of these chess-like patterns while scrolling? Like on the iphone. Is this the browser that does it?
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thx for that explanation. for the pixel-thing I'll try to ask the developers here. at least it's android, so most things could possibly be done
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Yeah I was disappointed when I noticed the slow response time myself, especially considering this is a top end device.
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Just noticed on my Lumia that there's a thin fine purple line on the edge of the left side of the screen. I can see more of it the whiter the screen is, can anybody confirm if they have this too or if it's just my device?
Thank you.
I have had two devices and both have shown some purple tint on the left side. My current example more evident than the previous phone.
Only noticable on gray/white backgrounds and not on colored backgrounds really.
It does bother me to some extend. Not enough to replace the phone a second time though (I did not exchange the first one because of this).
Not really like lines though. More like a subtle gradient that goes from far left into the right side.
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I have had two devices and both have shown some purple tint on the left side. My current example more evident than the previous phone.
Only noticable on gray/white backgrounds and not on colored backgrounds really.
It does bother me to some extend. Not enough to replace the phone a second time though (I did not exchange the first one because of this).
Not really like lines though. More like a subtle gradient that goes from far left into the right side.
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Its only bothered me since I noticed it to be honest, mine starts at the top left, all the way to the bottom. It sticks out more at the top corner, then goes thinner as it goes down.
It's due to pentile amoled screen. And it's normal behavior.
What he said; it's a PenTile thing.
I have my new Lumia 800 with some strange shady lines after every item on the screen to the very right side of it, with white theme and with medium or less brightness. Should i return it for replacement, or every Lumia 800 has this annoying issue? Switching form an iphone 4 I was prepared for worse screen quality, but not this much... youtu.be/g8t_oRDpY70
I exchanged my phone for a second time even though I said I would not. It just bothered me too much. Took me three phones to get one with a screen that had good uniformity across the screen. Only the line bleeding visible at times but it does not bother me at all really.
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I have my new Lumia 800 with some strange shady lines after every item on the screen to the very right side of it, with white theme and with medium or less brightness. Should i return it for replacement, or every Lumia 800 has this annoying issue? Switching form an iphone 4 I was prepared for worse screen quality, but not this much... youtu.be/g8t_oRDpY70
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That's an AMOLED 'feature'. I remember my Nexus One being like that, and when I set full brightness with light background I can make it out on the Lumia too.
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That's an AMOLED 'feature'. I remember my Nexus One being like that, and when I set full brightness with light background I can make it out on the Lumia too.
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I am sad to hear this mate... Am i expecting too much after my iphone? It is not noticeable with black background, but ie9, office and some other application has a bright background anyway, sot it is annoying there. Of course it is not until you realize this issue exists, but after that, you cannot stop paying attention to that...
It's like line bleed on plasma screens... I feel like its imposible to get af perfect screen today don't matter if its on phones or larger screens...
my last two expensive flatscreens had some minor problems, Plasma was linebleed and so on...
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I am sad to hear this mate... Am i expecting too much after my iphone? It is not noticeable with black background, but ie9, office and some other application has a bright background anyway, sot it is annoying there. Of course it is not until you realize this issue exists, but after that, you cannot stop paying attention to that...
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It's like line bleed on plasma screens... I feel like its imposible to get af perfect screen today don't matter if its on phones or larger screens...
my last two expensive flatscreens had some minor problems, Plasma was linebleed and so on...
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I have to disagree with dk_iceman, iPhone 4/4S doesn't have this fault (don't know about 3GS, didn't own one) but fact of the matter is, this should be a fault, when we had such problems with our TV's, which even happen on LCD TV's, you get a replacement, I don't think such screen problems should be acknowledged as normal. Nokia have said for me to return my phone to them, but I'm checking for more problems, so I can give them a whole list of my expectations, I haven't had one problem with the iPhone 4/4S's screen, that's why I'm willing to pay more for a phone, this phone wasn't cheap too, so I think everybody should get what they paid for, ok software, can be solved, but for poor hardware, should be replaced. Agreed?
My girlfriend's Omnia 7 screen looks cleaner, she's had hers for two years now.
There are a few threads out there that have touched on this issue but none as far as I can see that deal with it directly.
The problem comes when you display a pure black screen in low light conditions. It shows that the AMOLED screen is actually grey / blotchy / cloudy instead of being pure black. Initially I thought mine had fingerprints or smudge marks on it, until I realised they were behind the screen. I guess I might have got a phone with a screen that was replaced, but the amount of people who have also reported a similar issue leads me to believe that it might be a manufacturing default? The blotches / clouds on the screen dont change, but exhibit a random formation as one would expect from a defect. It is also possible to see a very faint outline of light running along 3 edges of the screen.
Naturally this is a situation that doesnt reveal itself very often. But I as I use my phone a lot at night, especially reading ebooks or watching films, you start to notice it more and more where you have large expanses of empty black screen.
What I would like to know is how many people have got screens that exhibit this behaviour and how many of you have sent them in for service or had them replaced?
Is it a common issue and something that is to be expected from this type of screen?
You can test if yours has this problem using 'Screen Test' (its free) from the market place. It cycles through solid colours and patterns every time you touch the screen.
Just do it in bed with all the lights out P), give your eyes a few seconds to adjust and see what your screen looks like displaying pure black.
I'm very interested in everyone's experiences and any input or information you have.
Thanks everyone in advance!
ps: I came from a ZTE blade (OLED) which has a uniformly dark grey background when displaying pure black. I kinda expect this as it is a budget phone (albeit with a better than budget screen), but I didnt expect the SGS2 to be quite as bad.
Use "screen adjuster" from the market and set contrast to -60
i have never seen this black low light screen defect. but i am asking you people if any of you have noticed that ugly blurry shadows which are perfectly visible with low light, on white backgrounds especially. they look like marks above the actual display and make high quality images look like low resolution.. it is annoying as hell..
I have this. Noticed it one night when my phone was switched off and charging.
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I also have this, noticed the first evening i used the phone...you can notice this during the screen wake delay, or when in a call if you cover then uncover the proximity sensor...don't know if it's a defect but sure it bugs me, i know many won't notice it and will say they don't have this...i will add that if u look carefully to the screen dimmed at lowest brightness in a low light (buy not dark) environment, like early morning, you'll see some "interferences" behind the image, also the darker/yellower left half screen is still visible in these conditions
These things shouldn't be there in a 500€ phone
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Thanks for the feedback already.
@elmerendeiro: I have also noticed some 'interference' lines on my phone from time to time. I did a bit of research and it seems when your phone's brightness is set around 25 - 30% it picks up interference from either the wifi or 3g radio. Notch the brightness either above or below this level and you wont see it anymore.
I agree with you when you say we shouldn't be having these problems on such an expensive phone.
It bugs me too - if it wasnt for this i'd have to say it would be an amazing phone
Might give the Samsung service center a call and see if its something they're aware of and if they are replacing screens with this problem?
Some time ago I noticed that, in some very special situations, like under direct and strong artificial/sun light and a particular angle, I'm able to see a couple of small, very faint spots, kinda similar to those left by dried moisture (like a drop of water) underneath the screen. At first I though it was my bad for putting on a wet screen protector, but just the other day I had a look at the device of a friend of mine (no protector wahtsoever), and looking closely I found similar spots, just not two but a single and bigger one. This got me a bit puzzled, so I decided to take a look at a third device, this time a demo unit in a shop, and guess what? Also that one had a similar mark right in the middle of the screen.
Now, not that this bothers me much, since you can't actually see it unless you really try (I can't even catch it with a camera), but I'd love to know from you guys if this is a common "flaw" or I just happened to grab a "flawed" handful of devices...
Yup, I have these dark patches. You can see them sometimes if you look at a particular angle when the phone is booting up. I can't see them any other time though
I can see dark patches when the screen is dimmed, especially at night, I can't see it any other times, Nokia returned it to me because they couldn't see it. So they asked to send it in again, it took them ten days to just flash a ROM....I was pissed as it is.
When the Display is off I can sometimes see some "blacker" areas on the screen. According to Nokia These are splices where the glass is somehow glued to the display.
Thank you guys, at least I feel a little better about it now...anyway it still puzzles me how this is the first device I own in years with this kind of issue, and I really had many, both resistive and capacitive, with or without gorilla and even made of plastic. I mean this isn't really a flaw, but knowing it's there annoys me. Damn, maybe I should really just stop being so OCD with my devices, it hurts
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Thank you guys, at least I feel a little better about it now...anyway it still puzzles me how this is the first device I own in years with this kind of issue, and I really had many, both resistive and capacitive, with or without gorilla and even made of plastic. I mean this isn't really a flaw, but knowing it's there annoys me. Damn, maybe I should really just stop being so OCD with my devices, it hurts
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I still would class it as a fault, it makes my eyes burn.
Are you speaking about the spots which are visible in the dark if the screen is black?
I saw them when I did my screen black in diagnostics app - lcd test.
So I took a picture of "black" screen with long exposure (iso 400, 30 seconds exposure) and show it in nokia care service. Week after I got new display
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Are you speaking about the spots which are visible in the dark if the screen is black?
I saw them when I did my screen black in diagnostics app - lcd test.
So I took a picture of "black" screen with long exposure (iso 400, 30 seconds exposure) and show it in nokia care service. Week after I got new display
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Actually those aren't really "spots", it's some sort of light leak that all amoled devices have when displaying plain black: even if all the leds are supposed to be off there's still some electricity going through them. I had that on all of my amoled devices, on my Desire, on my SGS2 and on my Omnia W as well, it doesn't look that great but it's fine I guess. Weird that you still managed to get the screen replaced, maybe your unit actually had some excessive light leak.
Here I'm talking about a different thing, given that you have them you should be able to see those spots I described even with the device completely off if you keep it under a strong light and at the right angle.
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Actually those aren't really "spots", it's some sort of light leak that all amoled devices have when displaying plain black: even if all the leds are supposed to be off there's still some electricity going through them. I had that on all of my amoled devices, on my Desire, on my SGS2 and on my Omnia W as well, it doesn't look that great but it's fine I guess. Weird that you still managed to get the screen replaced, maybe your unit actually had some excessive light leak.
Here I'm talking about a different thing, given that you have them you should be able to see those spots I described even with the device completely off if you keep it under a strong light and at the right angle.
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Can't reproduce that. I look closely but see nothing special.
Though, as Russian proverb says - the less you know the stronger you sleep
Here is a picture of screen with the spots I was posting about.
So, if anyone have scratched screen as I had, it is a good reason to get repair
PS note that picture was taken with long exposure. Actually my eyes need to get used to darkness to see glow.
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Can't reproduce that. I look closely but see nothing special.
Though, as Russian proverb says - the less you know the stronger you sleep
Here is a picture of screen with the spots I was posting about.
So, if anyone have scratched screen as I had, it is a good reason to get repair
PS note that picture was taken with long exposure. Actually my eyes need to get used to darkness to see glow.
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Yeah that's it, the good old light leak
Anyway the picture you took being overexposed gives the impression of a huge issue, so I guess they replaced the screen right after looking at that, even tho in normal darkness conditions it's definitely not so annoying. Good for you that you managed to get it replaced anyway
lol a 30 second exposure will bring out the worst of the display. I can understand they replaced it after showing that image that sort of tricks them because it will never be even close to that visible to the naked eye.
Completely normal for AMOLED displays.
Does any tablet owner here of M5 or same family tablet, has noticed if one of your display has an edge or sideline that is slightly slightly darker, during using a fully white background?
On my m5 Pro I've noticed that with a fully white backgroud, I do have an edge, close to the left bottom corner (holding the tablet horizontally) that is slightly gray rather than the right side. Off course that: if I'm rotating it, then it Will happear to the top instead.
If you don't stay there and looking at it for a minute, you don't notice it. But if you look at it and compare to the rest of the screen or other side, then you'll see this small difference.
Do you have same issue? Does it is an IPS display issue?
Ah! It makes it only with the White. Only the White. Other colors comparisions are fine.
Looking videos, pictures or anything else that does not push the screen to a very high density white in that side, it's fine.
You can try to see if you're having the same of opening the cleaning chache program, where there is a lot of White all around the screen. There you can watch side by side and every corner... and you can try too see if somewhere do you have a slightly white difference compared to the rest.
But as said above. Only white make this.
Videos, pictures with same colors side to side are fine. It's all about the White.
I've contacted the Huawei assistance trough Phone and they said that is normal and panels might do this, and if in doubt, I'm free to go to the Local official technical assistance in my town to have a confirm for it .
So I've done that! I've moved to the Local technical assistance and the technician told me that it might happens and it is not worthy of a repair, because changing panel might not solve the problem as this slightly slightly brightning difference might show on another side. Has more sense to wait if in these 2 years something going worse and repair it over warranty.
It's hard to see this difference of White brightness, and I've noticed that just because I'm a really fussy guy and ... off course I don't spend my time on surfing on the menus. It's also a post to understand it these kind of IPS panels may encount these issues.
Anyone here is experiencing this thing? Or are you watching all the sides of your tablet to see if do you have it aswell? :laugh:
It's called uneven brightness, and reading notebookcheck's review said that it is above average. Seems you have received a dud, but it's likely within tolerance im afraid.
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It's called uneven brightness, and reading notebookcheck's review said that it is above average. Seems you have received a dud, but it's likely within tolerance im afraid.
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Are you sure It's a dud? In a FB group a guy said that he's even worse on his 8.4 because he has it all over the edges . And on a previous M3 he got, there was an even worse side with less brightness. And so He returned the tablet.
In my case, it's so soft that you don't notice it at all. You do have to search for it. And it happens only with the White.
It the technician in the store told me it's not worth a replace the panel, this slightly brightness might happpen and same issue might happen in another side, nobody knows. I wish to beleive him . Why He would had lied to me?
Anyway I've read the m5 review and they are showing the characteristic of the brightness all over the display. Yea, it is seems a trait of it, and a 0,25 cd/m2 is barely perceivable.
What's your opinion?
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Are you sure It's a dud? In a FB group a guy said that he's even worse on his 8.4 because he has it all over the edges . And on a previous M3 he got, there was an even worse side with less brightness. And so He returned the tablet.
In my case, it's so soft that you don't notice it at all. You do have to search for it. And it happens only with the White.
It the technician in the store told me it's not worth a replace the panel, this slightly brightness might happpen and same issue might happen in another side, nobody knows. I wish to beleive him . Why He would had lied to me?
Anyway I've read the m5 review and they are showing the characteristic of the brightness all over the display. Yea, it is seems a trait of it, and a 0,25 cd/m2 is barely perceivable.
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my M5 is perfect, no noticeable differences in brightness anywhere. Notebookcheck said that the 8 in model has poorer display anyway.
If it's not noticeable in normal use then it's fine.
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my M5 is perfect, no noticeable differences in brightness anywhere. Notebookcheck said that the 8 in model has poorer display anyway.
If it's not noticeable in normal use then it's fine.
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Nah...exept The White background, it's ok on all use.
But as said above, if I do watch that edge to try to catch the eye to find this difference.
Technician said it's ok. Hope it is. I just want to know if anyone experienced this with this model or any other tablet with IPS display
Michaelflat1 said:
my M5 is perfect, no noticeable differences in brightness anywhere. Notebookcheck said that the 8 in model has poorer display anyway.
If it's not noticeable in normal use then it's fine.
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Is there any reliable software for Android to do the same thing done by notebookcheck and testing the brightness? Like this:
I've checked that one on playstore, but I did not find nothing.
Any suggestion?
andreawars said:
Is there any reliable software for Android to do the same thing done by notebookcheck and testing the brightness? Like this:
I've checked that one on playstore, but I did not find nothing.
Any suggestion?
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You need something that can detect the brightness, usually expensive hardware that connects to a windows machine. I think they start at around $500 or so. You could rent one i suppose. (if you could find somewhere or someone!).
But yeah it needs hardware.
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Does any tablet owner here of M5 or same family tablet, has noticed if one of your display has an edge or sideline that is slightly slightly darker, during using a fully white background?
On my m5 Pro I've noticed that with a fully white backgroud, I do have an edge, close to the left bottom corner (holding the tablet horizontally) that is slightly gray rather than the right side. Off course that: if I'm rotating it, then it Will happear to the top instead.
If you don't stay there and looking at it for a minute, you don't notice it. But if you look at it and compare to the rest of the screen or other side, then you'll see this small difference.
Do you have same issue? Does it is an IPS display issue?
Ah! It makes it only with the White. Only the White. Other colors comparisions are fine.
Looking videos, pictures or anything else that does not push the screen to a very high density white in that side, it's fine.
You can try to see if you're having the same of opening the cleaning chache program, where there is a lot of White all around the screen. There you can watch side by side and every corner... and you can try too see if somewhere do you have a slightly white difference compared to the rest.
But as said above. Only white make this.
Videos, pictures with same colors side to side are fine. It's all about the White.
I've contacted the Huawei assistance trough Phone and they said that is normal and panels might do this, and if in doubt, I'm free to go to the Local official technical assistance in my town to have a confirm for it .
So I've done that! I've moved to the Local technical assistance and the technician told me that it might happens and it is not worthy of a repair, because changing panel might not solve the problem as this slightly slightly brightning difference might show on another side. Has more sense to wait if in these 2 years something going worse and repair it over warranty.
It's hard to see this difference of White brightness, and I've noticed that just because I'm a really fussy guy and ... off course I don't spend my time on surfing on the menus. It's also a post to understand it these kind of IPS panels may encount these issues.
Anyone here is experiencing this thing? Or are you watching all the sides of your tablet to see if do you have it aswell? :laugh:
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What did you decide? I have one side that is darker or M5 10.8, not a pro version.
Should I try to replace it? It does not bother me much and I read here that there are more units, that come with more darker sides/edges.
kaimyns said:
What did you decide? I have one side that is darker or M5 10.8, not a pro version.
Should I try to replace it? It does not bother me much and I read here that there are more units, that come with more darker sides/edges.
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The problem for me it's just a little and not worth a change for defect.
Because a repairing stores told me that quite always somewhere that little little darker side happear. It's not guarranteed that with a replacement it would not happear elsewhere. It's happening only with the White. Normal use the tablet is fine.
It's an issue of the IPS display, expecially large displays. That's Why i love the AMOLED all the way.
Technician said it's not for a change/repair, exept if it is gonna go worse.
So I'll keep it. Does your problem is so noticeable?
andreawars said:
The problem for me it's just a little and not worth a change for defect.
Because a repairing stores told me that quite always somewhere that little little darker side happear. It's not guarranteed that with a replacement it would not happear elsewhere. It's happening only with the White. Normal use the tablet is fine.
It's an issue of the IPS display, expecially large displays. That's Why i love the AMOLED all the way.
Technician said it's not for a change/repair, exept if it is gonna go worse.
So I'll keep it. Does your problem is so noticeable?
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It is, the whole left side is darker, so I contacted for replacement. Amazon was very helpful and the replacement is coming to me. Hope that unit will be be without darker sides.
Thanks for help.
kaimyns said:
It is, the whole left side is darker, so I contacted for replacement. Amazon was very helpful and the replacement is coming to me. Hope that unit will be be without darker sides.
Thanks for help.
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Did you had this issues also with other colors? If you were watching a movie or working on a picture was noticeable?
For me it's only the White, but you do have to look for it. It's same issues that have low/mid ranged TVs.
Not worth a change or a repair. Because it can ne elsewhere.
Does it is the same for you?
Keep us updated.
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Did you had this issues also with other colors? If you were watching a movie or working on a picture was noticeable?
For me it's only the White, but you do have to look for it. It's same issues that have low/mid ranged TVs.
Not worth a change or a repair. Because it can ne elsewhere.
Does it is the same for you?
Keep us updated.
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Yes, there was also a problem with other brighter colors. It was noticable only when browsing, but that's mainly what I do with a tablet. After a while I started searching for that darker side in various apps/colors, instead of enjoying a tablet.
Today I got a replacement. The screen looks more or less fine on the sides/edges both with white and other colors.
my m5 pro 10.8 is perfectly in balance.
iv´e tested with a white fullscreen wallpaper on max. brightness. everything is ok.
also other colors are fine.
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every M5 screen has it. I had 3 pieces, each one had a near the status bar (battery, hour) visible only at a sharp angle. If you do not see it, you look at it badly. I stayed with the first copy. These two still had dead pixels. This is the construction of ips.
yeah i have no issues on mine, full brightness and looking from sharp angles doesn't make much difference at all. Slight brightness changes maybe, but same happens to any screen.