Good day !
I have come across a situation of unknown bootloader of SK17 .
I found some shop in Hong Kong is selling some cheap SK17 (not sure if it is the same as SK17i) . I asked the shop keeper and they said that the bootloader is locked , but without SIM lock .
So , will someone confirm me if this situation is possible ? As I read some post in this form it indicate that locked bootloader is usually because it is branded , i.e. SIM locked . If it is SIM free version does it mean I can make the bootloader unlock ?
And , what if the system shows "Bootloader unlockable ? No" ? Is there any way to work around this issue to make the bootloader unlock ?
Thanks so much !
Rgds,
Kurz
Hi!
A simlock is something totally different to the bootloader´s lock.
No Simlock means that you can use any sim of any provider you like and who´s band is supported by phone´s hardware.
The bootloader ist locked by sony basically to prevent people from removing the sony Firmware even if it is not branded. A second issue is probably to prevent people from unlocking and playing with the firmware who do not know what they do.
Before the lock of the bootloader it was easy for everyone with one-click-tools or similar to root the phone. This could have led to many RMA procedures at Sony
But there must be a possibility to unlock it due to the terms of open source software.
So there is no need for you to unlock the bootloader as it takes any simcard anyway.
What the issue about sk17i sk17 and sk17a is, I do not know yet. But I´m curious about it
hi... how to know that your xperia mini pro unlock already in bootloader?
my rooting status is,
Bootloader unlock allowed: YES
is it already unlock in bootloader?? or not
It meens that it is be allowed to unlock your bootloader. It means not that your bootloader *is* unlocked.
Hi Poedel ,
Yes I understand SIM locked and Bootloader locked is different . But I wish to install 3rd party roms (CM7 rulez) , so I still wish to know how to unlock the bootloader .
So maybe I change a little bit about my question .
1) a sim unlocked device with locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no) cannot unlock due to the SIM lock . Then will it allow to unlock if the device change to SIM unlocked ?
2) Any method to work around the locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no)
3) Any way to unlock the bootloader if IMEI code cannot be used to extract the unlock code ? As I know some of the shop will use flash rom writer to wipe with another device firmware and IMEI will changes (it happens last time when I buy a X01HT) .
Thanks a lot !
Rgds,
Kurz
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mkmonkey said:
Hi Poedel ,
Yes I understand SIM locked and Bootloader locked is different . But I wish to install 3rd party roms (CM7 rulez) , so I still wish to know how to unlock the bootloader .
So maybe I change a little bit about my question .
1) a sim unlocked device with locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no) cannot unlock due to the SIM lock . Then will it allow to unlock if the device change to SIM unlocked ?
this is still confusing The simlock does not take care at all if there is a bootloader-lock or not. I never ask someone if I am allowed, definetly not mr. simlock
2) Any method to work around the locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no)
3) Any way to unlock the bootloader if IMEI code cannot be used to extract the unlock code ? As I know some of the shop will use flash rom writer to wipe with another device firmware and IMEI will changes (it happens last time when I buy a X01HT) .
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okay, usually you'll go to the sony's dev site bootloaderunlockl.sonyericsson.com (don't know the correct sub, could be correct) and authenticated by your IMEI and email you'll get the unlock code. Without IMEI you won't be able to unlock. But even if you IMEI changed you can try the current IMEI. What I think is that Sony just saves the Email and IMEI into a mySQL Database to cope with the situation if your device enters RMA à la "you unlocked, your fault". It would be rather not the way that they look if your current IMEI really belongs to the device there. I would simply try it. BUT!
There is a post where a method is shown to root your ph0ne without unlocking the bootloader.
So here are both links:
rooting without unlocking not tested by me (even not yet read *covering*)
default way like I did it
Dear Poedel ,
Thanks , that's exactly what I wish to know .
So in worst case if bootloader is not going to unlock in normal way , I should use the test point function to bypass it and flash another room and firmware into it , and unlock the bootloader again ?
Thanks very much !
Regards,
Kurz
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I unlocked my X10 bootloader when it was released, since then i've realised I still had credits in my davinci account, so I thought I'd have a crack at sim unlocking it.
The question I have is, will this brick my device if flash the 2.1 software back, perform the unlock and then flash back to cm7?
Maybe no-one has tried it yet, but I'm looking for a sensible answer with some evidence to back it up.
Cheers ppl
Stu
OK, So yes I can sim unlock it with davinci, But now I'm back to having a locked bootloader which is probably because it rewrote s1_boot in doing the sim unlock.
Soooo, now I can use another network sim which is my main priority as i just switched contracts.
But I'd like to have an unlocked bootloader so i'm not crippled and can go back to FXP and not SE GB.
I know I could unlock the bootloader and not have network access but that defeats the object of having it sim unlocked.
Looking back, There are a few things that would make this a lot easier....
Hi!
I had the same problem.
I was able to unlock bootloader and running Linuxdx+GingerDX.
Then i wanted to unlock my phone, did it with davinci app and worked all just fine, but after trying unlock my bootloader again the sime network crashes.
I have tried both choices on my phone both semc unlock and seetool unlock.
The same problem.
Only way to rescue my bricked phone is to make a "new" unlock again.
Now i have paid a unlock a couple of times so i dont dare to try unlock bootloader again.
Well i really like LinuxDX+GingerDX.
I beleuve that i am stock with STOCK kernel and GingerDX until a solution is here...
Kind reegards
Eddie
eddiejohansen said:
Hi!
I had the same problem.
I was able to unlock bootloader and running Linuxdx+GingerDX.
Then i wanted to unlock my phone, did it with davinci app and worked all just fine, but after trying unlock my bootloader again the sime network crashes.
I have tried both choices on my phone both semc unlock and seetool unlock.
The same problem.
Only way to rescue my bricked phone is to make a "new" unlock again.
Now i have paid a unlock a couple of times so i dont dare to try unlock bootloader again.
Well i really like LinuxDX+GingerDX.
I beleuve that i am stock with STOCK kernel and GingerDX until a solution is here...
Kind reegards
Eddie
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thanks for info.
how can i unlock x10 mini(build number 2.1.1.c.0.0)bootloader?
plz help...
I don't think we can say that from your firmware version. You'd better have a look at the number on your sticker below the backcover of your phone, telling a date in the format
XXWYY
Where XX is the year and YY the Week, so for example
12W16 would be 2012 week 16
If this date is before 11W29, it's (except mentioned different) safe to unlock your bootloader.
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so if it's after that date and i unlock bootloader then what problem will occur?
it may dead???
mrezat said:
so if it's after that date and i unlock bootloader then what problem will occur?
it may dead???
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I think yep it will be hard briked(as i read in forums) and then you will have to send it in sony erriccson
that is my problem
i ve got 11w30 and i am not sure
but s1 tool tells me semc simlock certificate....does this means sth? (semc simlok certifiate)
( c button does not work in my pc )
so how can i unlock its bootloader?
there is no way to do this?
mrezat said:
so how can i unlock its bootloader?
there is no way to do this?
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As far as I'm aware, the manufacturing date doesn't really matter to 2010 devices, as far as i know that particular issue was only relevant to 2011 devices after a particular manufacturing date.
If you're successful in unlocking your bootloader on the X10-mini solely depends on your simlock-certificate. If you unlock your bootloader, reboot your system and make sure you can still connect to the network, if you can't relock it and hope it will come back to normal. In the last case you're limited to roms that use the stock kernel.
If unlocked with gsm/data still working you can try custom kernels with their respecitve roms
Hope I've helped
SmG67 said:
As far as I'm aware, the manufacturing date doesn't really matter to 2010 devices, as far as i know that particular issue was only relevant to 2011 devices after a particular manufacturing date.
If you're successful in unlocking your bootloader on the X10-mini solely depends on your simlock-certificate. If you unlock your bootloader, reboot your system and make sure you can still connect to the network, if you can't relock it and hope it will come back to normal. In the last case you're limited to roms that use the stock kernel.
If unlocked with gsm/data still working you can try custom kernels with their respecitve roms
Hope I've helped
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sorry but what is simlock-certificate?
As far as i am aware it's the certificate that tells your sim it's locked to your provider, if you bought your phone simlock-free, you will have a standard Sony-Ericsson simlock-certificate, if not you will have one from your provider.
The hack used to bypass the bootloader on the x10mini doesn't work with custom certificates,
If you don't have the sony-ericsson (SEMC) simlock-certificate you need to unlock your phone using a emma/imei code from your provider or using an unlock tool like omnius.
If S1tool identifies your simlock-certificate as unknown, you have the chance that unlocking your bootloader will result in the loss of radio-capability (no GSM/3G), and you are stuck with a device that can't function as a phone anymore.
SmG67 said:
As far as i am aware it's the certificate that tells your sim it's locked to your provider, if you bought your phone simlock-free, you will have a standard Sony-Ericsson simlock-certificate, if not you will have one from your provider.
The hack used to bypass the bootloader on the x10mini doesn't work with custom certificates,
If you don't have the sony-ericsson (SEMC) simlock-certificate you need to unlock your phone using a emma/imei code from your provider or using an unlock tool like omnius.
If S1tool identifies your simlock-certificate as unknown, you have the chance that unlocking your bootloader will result in the loss of radio-capability (no GSM/3G), and you are stuck with a device that can't function as a phone anymore.
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TNX for ur guide...
can u give me s1tool link...
Hi sorry my bad english
I need some help with my sony xperia mini pro.
I bought a used sk17i a few months ago.
I want to root and install a Custom rom to this phone, ics etc.
My problem:
-the phone is unlocked on 2.3.3 ( i try to official update 4.0.2.A.0.62 but the phone is died. i go back to store and his service is fix them but i dont know how to unlock this phone and im afraid to kill the phone if i want to root or install a custom rom)
-*#*#service#*#* say Bootloader unlock allowed: no ( i don't understand how, i read so many forums and all say if the phone is already unlocked the Bootloader unlock allowed: yes , and if Bootloader unlock allowed: no, i cant unlock bootloader and cant unlock the phone)
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ABOUT THE PHONE:
model: sk17i
android: 2.3.3
Baseband: 8x55A-AAABQOAZM-20302203-30
kernel: 2.6.32.9-perf
[email protected] #1
build number: 4.0.A.2.335
IMEI: 11w33
so i need some help if i root and install a custom rom i able to unlock the phone? and how ?
Thank you guys!!!
If it says that you can't unlock, you can try something through Wotan, but I don't have any experience with that. If you don't want to perform any risks you can always install stock-based ROM (Zelly Cream, Viper etc.) even without unlocked bootloader.
Hmmm...you must be confuse with operator lock and bootloader lock....
Operator lock is when you can only use one services provider on your phone....you cannot use any other services provider...if you phone can use different services provider then your operator lock has been unlock...
Bootloader lock meanwhile is a lock that prevent you to use custom kernel on your phone...still you can use custom roms that is base on stock kernel...since in services menu you bootloader unlock allowed = no, you cant unlock your bootloader (correct me if i'm wrong)....trying to unlock it means that you have 99% chances of bricking your phone....
FYI : Wotan server is for unlocking operator lock not for unlocking bootloader (correct me if i'm wrong).....
Ok but i dont know if i install a new rom i lose my unlock or i have them with the new rom?
iPusak Gaoq™ said:
Hmmm...you must be confuse with operator lock and bootloader lock....
Operator lock is when you can only use one services provider on your phone....you cannot use any other services provider...if you phone can use different services provider then your operator lock has been unlock...
Bootloader lock meanwhile is a lock that prevent you to use custom kernel on your phone...still you can use custom roms that is base on stock kernel...since in services menu you bootloader unlock allowed = no, you cant unlock your bootloader (correct me if i'm wrong)....trying to unlock it means that you have 99% chances of bricking your phone....
FYI : Wotan server is for unlocking operator lock not for unlocking bootloader (correct me if i'm wrong).....
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OK thank you, i want operator lock, but im reading somewhere its possible if i unlock boot loader and install other kernel or something.
and this wotan server for unlocking is working all country all operator? oh i see but i want a free method, i like if i make the unlocking and other stuffs.
reaim said:
OK thank you, i want operator lock, but im reading somewhere its possible if i unlock boot loader and install other kernel or something.
and this wotan server for unlocking is working all country all operator?
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Yes wotan server is for unlocking operator lock all round the country...you should check it out first but are you sure your phone is operator lock??? did you try to put other sim card from different operator into your phone??? does other sim card work??? if is not working then i believe it is operator lock....
iPusak Gaoq™ said:
Yes wotan server is for unlocking operator lock all round the country...you should check it out first but are you sure your phone is operator lock??? did you try to put other sim card from different operator into your phone??? does other sim card work??? if is not working then i believe it is operator lock....
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now its unlocked but i dont know how. and im afraid if i install other rom i lose the unlocking.
1 time i try an official update but the phone is died.
reaim said:
now its unlocked but i dont know how. and im afraid if i install other rom i lose the unlocking.
1 time i try an official update but the phone is died.
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Hmmm...official update as in using SEUS???? you wont lose operator unlock if you update using SEUS or Flashtool...once the operator has been unlock it cant be lock again....
iPusak Gaoq™ said:
Hmmm...official update as in using SEUS???? you wont lose operator unlock if you update using SEUS or Flashtool...once the operator has been unlock it cant be lock again....
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had once tried to update ( w seus) but the phone was dead. I'm afraid that if I try again, it happens again and I do not want to bring back to repairing service center. recently to a service also said that they will not be updated over the phone (say I do not understand why). it would be advisable to first figure out how to be unlocked and maybe i might see why the phone dies.
reaim said:
had once tried to update ( w seus) but the phone was dead. I'm afraid that if I try again, it happens again and I do not want to bring back to repairing service center. recently to a service also said that they will not be updated over the phone (say I do not understand why). it would be advisable to first figure out how to be unlocked and maybe i might see why the phone dies.
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Hmmm....if you haven't unlock the bootloader then updating using SEUS will not brick your phone....phone with unlock bootloader cannot use SEUS to update...only Flashtool can help unlock bootloader update the firmware....
as for your problem, if you are afraid to use SEUS again the use Flashtool....you can find Flashtool and all the necessary files (stock ttf, kernel, custom kernel and custom roms) HERE.....
Hello to all! I have a Sony Live With Walkman that says, "unlock bootloader allow: No". Well the release by IMEI unlock code I have, and I'm released, the problem is that it still says "bootloader unlock allow: not 'there a way to unlock the bootloader?? The date of manufacture is 12w32
Excuse my English is not very good. Thank you very much!
IMEI unlock via code, dont unlock your bootloader, you need to unlock IMEI via test point method.
Rempty said:
IMEI unlock via code, dont unlock your bootloader, you need to unlock IMEI via test point method.
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Thanks, I already know, the phone is already unlocked with a code, just to do the test point to unlock the bootloader??
won't work cause it will still say allowed:no... sorry, same thing happened to me.
Hey guys, my bootloader unlock allowed status is no, but what if i unlock my SIM? Will it change to Unlock Allowed: Yes? I really wanna unlock the bootloader.
SIM unlocking and bootloader unlocking are two unrelated things.
You won't unlock your bootloader by unlocking the SIM.
To be exact, there is no way to unlock your bootloader by your own if bootloader unlocking is not allowed.
If your local laws grants you the right to gain full access over your device, you can try to send your device to Sony and ask them to unlock the bootloader by invoking these laws.
There is no guarantee that Sony will accepts to proceed, but I know that at least one person get an unlocked phone in France using this process (sorry I don't have the link anymore, I will add it later if I find it again).
Hope it helps,
Regards
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SIM unlocking and bootloader unlocking are two unrelated things.
You won't unlock your bootloader by unlocking the SIM.
To be exact, there is no way to unlock your bootloader by your own if bootloader unlocking is not allowed.
If your local laws grants you the right to gain full access over your device, you can try to send your device to Sony and ask them to unlock the bootloader by invoking these laws.
There is no guarantee that Sony will accepts to proceed, but I know that at least one person get an unlocked phone in France using this process (sorry I don't have the link anymore, I will add it later if I find it again).
Hope it helps,
Regards
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Understood, thanks!