ACL and Alien Dalvik can run Android Apps on Non-Android Devices - Android Development on Bada

Samsung is going to spend 3 Million US dollars as prize money to try to encourage developers to develop more apps for Bada.
My take is they should just use that $3M and pay OpenMobile for its Android Compatibility Layer or pay Myriad for it's Alien Dalvik so that Android Apps can run on bada, problem solved for the users and at the same time
Samsung will still make a profit selling apps on it's Samsung Apps store.
Both ACL and Alien Dalvik can run android apps on non android devices.
ACL demoed android apps running on Meego (nokia N9)
and Alien Dalvik demoed google apps and Photoshop for Android running on
a nokia N900.
Alien Dalvik will even demo Android apps running on,of all things, an Ipad.
(as if apple needed more apps)
So im just saying the money Samsung is using for it's app developer contest
might be better spent on using these available commercial solutions so that
Bada can use android apps without porting.
Problem with ACL and Alien Dalvik is that it's not available for endusers and are both targeted at Manufacturers and Operators.
For more details and videos
Alien Dalvik and n900 demo
http://www.badadownload.com/2011/10/alien-dalvik-brings-android-apps-to-non.html
ACL and N9 demo
http://www.badadownload.com/2011/09/open-mobile-make-android-apps-run-on.html

That's a good idea. How to get Samsung to recognize it now is a different story haha. You could send them a pm on Twitter or something and maybe they'll listen
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Good idea but i dont have twitter so would you do it?
I dont use twitter or facebook etc coz im paranoid
Could you do it?
BTW Myriad is out of the picture coz they plan make the android apps
work on other devices via online cloud services which i think sucks.
OpenMobile ACL does reside on the device and doesnt need an online connection to do its magic.

bong4316 said:
Samsung is going to spend 3 Million US dollars as prize money to try to encourage developers to develop more apps for Bada.
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Really ? Could you link us to the source of this information please ?
Thanks

kelogs said:
Really ? Could you link us to the source of this information please ?
Thanks
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1 Million is only for the money prize of the contest that starts tomorrow.
(100'000$ for the first 10 application that reach 100'000 download, only for bada 2.0 apps)
http://developer.bada.com/events/bada2.0-Power-App-Race?rlWlfcp=duq&isReturn=Y

oh, so I guess they have abandoned the 3 million regular contest and started this top 10 most downloaded thing, which I also find wrong.
Browsing through Samsung Apps did not reveal any download counters for their apps. So.. I doubt they even got apps with 100k downloads thus far. And it does not say anything about apps having to be brand new. One could just recompile its app for bada 2.0 and re-submit it

kelogs said:
oh, so I guess they have abandoned the 3 million regular contest and started this top 10 most downloaded thing, which I also find wrong.
Browsing through Samsung Apps did not reveal any download counters for their apps. So.. I doubt they even got apps with 100k downloads thus far. And it does not say anything about apps having to be brand new. One could just recompile its app for bada 2.0 and re-submit it
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on february I uploaded 3-4 free themes on samsung apps (before the invasion ),, after one month one of them has exceeded 100'000 download, recently I've checked the whole download counter and they have reach nearly 1 Million of downloads.
A free good app has more and more appeal than a nice theme, so this means even more downloads .
Anyway the constest criteria are 'funny', someone can simply submit his app and then create lots of new accounts and with them download his own app increasing his counter...
If there is a real possibility to have a dalvik vm porting on bada, better to pay for it than for that funny contest...

Aline Dalvik requires always on intertnet while OpenCL resides on the device.
Tsk sometimes i wonder if samsung really knows how to spend its cash to get the most out of it.

Ya porting of apps ...samsung should do it also i think new apps also should be there to make a new identity for bada not just all apps same from android.

I just want skype with calls and video, opera mobile and of course the new 3d games like eternal legacy (sseing how dvidearts wont port earth and legends to bada)

gurpreet122 said:
Ya porting of apps ...samsung should do it also i think new apps also should be there to make a new identity for bada not just all apps same from android.
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Is the project still running?? Or did samsung reject it as well??

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Are there any ways of getting a free Android developer's account

Hi is there any way to get a free developer's account for the Android Market? Or will someone be willing to let me use theirs or buy one for me in exchange for a favour? I am only 16 and my family have no credit cards.
PS I'm only going to host free apps.
Thank you
what kind of favours . as a fellow aussie i may be able to help. what kind of apps were you thinking about? i'll see if your ideas impress me
what kind of favours . as a fellow aussie i may be able to help. what kind of apps were you thinking about? i'll see if your ideas impress me
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Thanks for acknowledging me mate here's some ideas I was thinking of:
An AFL goal kicking game... kind of like Footy flick for iOS this I am planning to make in Unity Game Engine. I may also do a rugby or soccer version that just depends on how many downloads I get.
An Android port for the animation program Pivot. I am still planning how to tackle this.
Maybe a few basic apps like an offline System Requirements and some game hints and cheats.
I was also planning to make some casual games but I need to find a good game engine because I don't want to rely on Unity too much
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what kind of favours . as a fellow aussie i may be able to help. what kind of apps were you thinking about? i'll see if your ideas impress me
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Oh and favours... well if there's any help you need for any PCs or Android phones I may be able to help you out, or any favours that you can think of
I've developed an android app that I wish to give away freely
I too have a very useful android app (OS 2.3 and higher) It's called TSN Solar Observatory. It's a one-stop heliophysics data center that is near real-time. Features are: real-time solar gauges for wind/density/polarity/temp/IMF/pressure, KP indexes, auroral envirionment, GOES/ACE data plots, active solar regions, SOHO imagery, CME arrival prediction, current magnetosphere/magnetopause data, earth-sun connectivity, up to date SDO AIA imagery in 8 filters, educational heliophysics videos, and more. Very fast data acquisition. I just don't have a place to host it.
If interested, it is available on my website via rapidshare download .apk
non profit website
You cant have a developers account for free. 25$ registration fee is compulsory in order to upload apps to the play store.
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I too have a very useful android app (OS 2.3 and higher) It's called TSN Solar Observatory. It's a one-stop heliophysics data center that is near real-time. Features are: real-time solar gauges for wind/density/polarity/temp/IMF/pressure, KP indexes, auroral envirionment, GOES/ACE data plots, active solar regions, SOHO imagery, CME arrival prediction, current magnetosphere/magnetopause data, earth-sun connectivity, up to date SDO AIA imagery in 8 filters, educational heliophysics videos, and more. Very fast data acquisition. I just don't have a place to host it.
If interested, it is available on my website via rapidshare download .apk
non profit website
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I have finally got my developers account if you want I can host the apk, you'll need two screenshots, an app logo and a description though, if you want just email it to me at [email protected]
This person No longer has Dev account.
wri0013 said:
I have finally got my developers account if you want I can host the apk, you'll need two screenshots, an app logo and a description though, if you want just email it to me at [email protected]
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I Need a Help !!
I Want to upload my app to the play store !!
Can anyone host my app to the market ?
i'm 14 and my family don't have credits !!
please helpp !!
Hi, I am wri0013, I no longer have a dev account so please stop emailing me about it. Seriously I'm getting at least 3 emails a week enquiring about this. Please read the whole thread, not just the initial post. Thanks
monil.verma said:
You cant have a developers account for free. 25$ registration fee is compulsory in order to upload apps to the play store.
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I have a question: Do we have to pay only once or is there also a regular fee that we have to pay?
Hey! I can help you. Email me at [email protected] and I will tell you how I can help you!
One Time
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I have a question: Do we have to pay only once or is there also a regular fee that we have to pay?
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We only have to pay this fee once. No recurring or regular fees

[Q] New device, new binary?

Ok, I am looking at an online Android/iPhone app builder. They either offer the option to build one for free with unlimited downloads or you can pay yearly with different tiers for different download limits. The difference being that the free one has ads.
Anyways, when asked about just creating the app with their site, then hosting it on your own server and having everyone download it from there instead of paying the yearly fees, the site owner made this statement.
" my personal opinion in the long run you will pay more in this case because every time when apple releaes new iOS (like 6 now) or android has new phone (like samsung galaxy S 3 now) you will have to purchase new binary code from us that supports the latest updates/fixes."
Is this true? I don't see how each new device that comes out will require an update in your app.
Also, as stated, if you pay the yearly fee for the lowest amount of downloads, I assume they can only track downloads from Google Play or the Apple app store. I don't see any way they can track downloads from my own server hosting the .apk file. Anyone have any insight on this to correct me if I'm wrong?
For the record, I'm just looking to develop an app to play my Shoutcast Streaming audio station. I make no profit on the station, so have no capital to spend over $1K a year to have an Android and iPhone app. I mainly want to give it to my friends, and make it available to anyone who visits my Website. I really like the design that I did with this site, and am willing to pay something for it, just not worth $1K./year....
Anybody?
Have you tried installing the official Android Software Development Kit on your computer, and making the app yourself? You don't need to use an online service, and you choose exactly what gets compiled into the apk (ads, Google analytics, etc.).
post-mortem said:
Have you tried installing the official Android Software Development Kit on your computer, and making the app yourself? You don't need to use an online service, and you choose exactly what gets compiled into the apk (ads, Google analytics, etc.).
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Thank you for the reply.
I actually do have the SDK installed, and am looking into what it takes to make my own app. But, don't I have to know xml and Java to create apps using the SDK?
You do need to know those two languages.
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The Lepricon said:
But, don't I have to know xml and Java to create apps using the SDK?
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That online service allows you to write apps without knowing xml or Java?
post-mortem said:
That online service allows you to write apps without knowing xml or Java?
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Yes, it's kind of like Appinventor, all visual, just assemble the parts and stuff.
It's nice, just kinda pricey. I once posted the job on freelancer.com and got offers for about as much as this company is asking, and with freelancer I would have owned the app afterwards.
But, again, it's kinda hard to foot the bill when it's a non profit app.
Ok, I'm off to learn XML and Java.......
Oh, almost forgot.... the original questions...
" my personal opinion in the long run you will pay more in this case because every time when apple releaes new iOS (like 6 now) or android has new phone (like samsung galaxy S 3 now) you will have to purchase new binary code from us that supports the latest updates/fixes."
Is this true? I don't see how each new device that comes out will require an update in your app.
Also, as stated, if you pay the yearly fee for the lowest amount of downloads, I assume they can only track downloads from Google Play or the Apple app store. I don't see any way they can track downloads from my own server hosting the .apk file. Anyone have any insight on this to correct me if I'm wrong?
any ideas anyone?
I think he means every time Google releases an update to Android (updated OS, not new device). So, for example, you build your app to run on Jelly Bean. But when Key Lime Pie comes out, your app may not work as expected on those devices running KLP. Then, you'd have to pay them to recompile your app with updated binaries, or risk losing market share.
If your app is really simple and would run fine on Android 2.2 and up, then that "purchase new binary" thing is not applicable.
But, hell, if you're willing to learn XML & Java... go for it!

Must have APPS??

Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
1. An IM client like Empathy
2. A Wallbase application/or anything that fetches nice HD wallpapers.
3. An application to watch anime
I had a similar question earlier, you might be able to mine something from those that answered
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2105374
The main app most people wanted was What's App, but I saw that some one else has been developing a client for it.
For the Galaxy Notes:
-full Gimp with GAP, pressure sensitive
-Mypaint, pressure sensitive
kdenlive video editor
recordmydesktop screen capture
Billy_Oneironaut said:
For the Galaxy Notes:
-full Gimp with GAP, pressure sensitive
-Mypaint, pressure sensitive
kdenlive video editor
recordmydesktop screen capture
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I think that's a bit far-fetched for now..
Hempe said:
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
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a Google Voice VoIP client, like Grooveip and Spare Phone on android
Hempe said:
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
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Airdroid, sound hound, projectM, photo editor, IP Cam Viewer, team viewer, Xtremlabs Speedtest, Phone Ringtone, Angry Birds, Tango Remote
I think the drawing/photo editing APP is great idea.
When i have time i'll sketch something up and make a new thread.
What about a sportstracker app? Endomondo is awesome....something like that or a client for endomondo.
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amgz
Just give us whatsapppppp t_t
I am not going to make a whats APP client! I really dislike whatsapp. (There API is closed eeg. Free for only 100k users Ort something)
Hempe said:
I am not going to make a whats APP client! I really dislike whatsapp. (There API is closed eeg. Free for only 100k users Ort something)
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Luckely somebody is already working on a client for whatsapp. Its one of the most used apps en i think very important to make people wanna use phones with UT installed on it.
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A QR reader
A QR reader sounds like a good idea as well.
Only problem the nexus7's camera is not yet working
But definitly something for the todo list: -)
A decent torrent client please!
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Chief
Hempe said:
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
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It is my firm belief that we should have an APP INSTALL client that seamlessly installs apps FIRST! Then let the DEVS roll out the suggestions. What's the format anyway? not APK I would guess. I think a nice APK converter would work nicely then.
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It is my firm belief that we should have an APP INSTALL client that seamlessly installs apps FIRST! Then let the DEVS roll out the suggestions. What's the format anyway? not APK I would guess. I think a nice APK converter would work nicely then.
Chief out
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- What the heck is an APK? (That's only for Android and has nothing todo with linux, yes I said it android has nothing todo with linux )
- There are many ways to install an app.
-> you can install a .deb file
-> add a ppa our use the official repos and install via consol
-> build the binarys from source....
Currently someone is working on an "app store" but this is not a priority since ubuntu touch is still in pre alpha.
P.S. I am a DEV and I need some Ideas that's why I started the thread.
Some way to access Pandora One. I listen to some 300 hours a month, so it's definitely a requirement, not a 'want'.
Statement form pandoras website
We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S., Australia and New Zealand. We will continue to work diligently to realize the vision of a truly global Pandora, but for the time being we are required to restrict its use. We are very sad to have to do this, but there is no other alternative. ....
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A Pandora client sounded like a good idea but "this" makes it rather impossible
Hope you'll find some dev's located in the us that can help you with that.
I'm personally worried about not having an app to track and control my phone in the event it's lost or stolen. An Ubuntu touch UI for Prey or something to that effect would be awesome.
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Unnoficial/Modded app crash on Cat S61 (Android 8.1.0)

Hello,
I have two phones , one Cat S60 and today, reciewed my new Cat S61.
I have installed same apps that i have on my S60, but, the problem is, many modded app or other unnoficial app have problems with the new android system. On my S60, it working very well.
For exemple, i have and old version of Pocket Informant (i supposed is a "cracked" version but not sure) and a Modded version of Hogwarts Mystery. Both crash instantly when louching the app. Have black screen for few seconds and return to android desktop and have a texte say the app have crashed. If retry, same crash and android said (in french: "Harry Potter s'arrête systémathiquement") i think trad is "Always Crashing". I have no problems on the S60 is running on Android Mashmallow (if i'm correct). Other user have similar problems with custom app like me on his Android Oreo 8.1 or it's specific to the News Cat S61 and will be resolved by future update?
Thanks in advance for your answer and sorry for my bad spelling ^^'
Sounds like the applications are incompatible with the new android. Keep sending the reports to the developers and hopefully some day they release new versions for new Android. If you are rocking some "cracked" soft, then it might just be an old- non-updated version of the app. Search for these apps on google play and purchase them, if you enjoy them. That gives the developers some well deserved money and motivation to fix the issues.
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Sounds like the applications are incompatible with the new android. Keep sending the reports to the developers and hopefully some day they release new versions for new Android. If you are rocking some "cracked" soft, then it might just be an old- non-updated version of the app. Search for these apps on google play and purchase them, if you enjoy them. That gives the developers some well deserved money and motivation to fix the issues.
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That i have maked for Pocket Informant. The reason i have a cracked version is i dont like the new interface of the calendar (and as need to pay for have all function, for gaving an old version of the app, needed to be a "cracked" because if isnt, even if you have paid the new version, the old (uncrackef) stay limited function. For harry potter (hogwards mystery) it just i whont paid anything ingame for advance in game or other. If the dev put this game on store and need to paid for have it and play "unlimited, i will pay for it, but... If you read how the game is working, it's just a scam for get maximum monney of people X). The mod make just infinite energy ingame and dont need to paid for advance in the game ^^.
So, it's not a Android "limitation" to make unable to have non official or modded apk . I will wait that get new version of my apps and see what happens.

PIQ + mobitee let us with a expensive piece of garbage.

Hello forum; I have used your post a lot for many years but I had never been encouraged to write anything; First of all, I would like to apologize if someone offends that the first post I publish is a petition; but a little story below
The company PIQ was previously dedicated to developing sports products that used an application and due to the covid 19 pandemic they have simply gone bankrupt and many of the people who bought their devices simply cannot use it anymore.
PIQ
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The application uses an authentication system with an SMS code to the cell phone where it is installed and all its servers are closed; which leaves all its users swimming in nowhere; I have read in various forums that some athletes have lost up to 5 years of training history which is really unfortunate; (Although it is also regrettable not to make a backup of your files it is not the case of the post)
I'm not sure if the app cannot be downloaded from the play store so it will be put here:
Mobitee and PIQ for Android - APK Download
Download Mobitee and PIQ apk 3.1.7.5005 for Android. The Mobitee and PIQ mobile app provides unique insights to golfer of every level
apkpure.com
The application cannot be logged in or if the athlete loses their phone they will not be able to use the device again; with which it would be good to have any of the following options:
1. Is there any way in which you can bypass the login; it wouldn't matter if you couldn't track the statistics if you could at least use the hardware;
2. Is there any way in which the data packet sent by the NFC sensors can be used in another APP ???
finally; the application could be modified so that it does not work with an API on a private server, but rather save the local statistics:
I've been playing around a bit; I'm not really an expert; I have decompiled a couple of files and it seems to me that the one that might be of interest is called AccountManager.java located in
\ com \ mobitee \ base \ core \ managers
I appreciate it if someone can give me a hand since my knowledge is limited; Could you suggest to me where to start reading to get to some point:
Several users and even brands that worked with the company joined to request that they submit an open-source code or a GitHub project but I have not been able to find a clear answer to the issue yet.
Welcome to XDA
So you're saying it's a side loaded apk?
Here it is uploaded, Thanks for asking!
Yeah you didn't answer my question.
I don't download any unknown apks and very rarely side load and then only if vetted.
Hopefully someone here will help you...
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Welcome to XDA
So you're saying it's a side loaded apk?
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Sorry for not answering; yesterday was too late for me... if you are asking if they can be only installed via Apk file; unfortunately yes; it is out now from the play store...
LEP4To said:
Sorry for not answering; yesterday was too late for me... if you are asking if they can be only installed via Apk file; unfortunately yes; it is out now from the play store...
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No worries.
That should be a warning in itself. Getting away from this app is the best solution. The data may just be lost.
I lost 2 websites because I used Google Picasso to create them. Wasted time.
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blackhawk said:
No worries.
That should be a warning in itself. Getting away from this app is the best solution. The data may just be lost.
I lost 2 websites because I used Google Picasso to create them. Wasted time.
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the problem is not leaving the application aside; The boring thing is that almost 250usd was paid for a sports system that in this case was golf and it was useless when changing phones ...
LEP4To said:
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the problem is not leaving the application aside; The boring thing is that almost 250usd was paid for a sports system that in this case was golf and it was useless when changing phones ...
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That sucks. Was that in the EULA?
You may have legal recourse. Try nice first.
There probably is a way to trick it by editing it's code but that's beyond my capabilities.
However this is a site full of hawkers...
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That sucks. Was that in the EULA?
You may have legal recourse. Try nice first.
There probably is a way to trick it by editing it's code but that's beyond my capabilities.
However this is a site full of hawkers...
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I know, Maybe somebody could help here...
On the other hand, I can not find EULA since the page is down now, but on the web page too many times a banner says "unlimited updates for life"; I think those guys were pretty confident to not go to bankruptcy
I can check for something on the web cache...
LEP4To said:
I know, Maybe somebody could help here...
On the other hand, I can not find EULA since the page is down now, but on the web page too many times a banner says "unlimited updates for life"; I think those guys were pretty confident to not go to bankruptcy
I can check for something on the web cache...
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Sounds like a lost cause if the site is down.
Sometimes you need to copy your data any way you can even writing it down by hand.
Been there, lost data...
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