Hello,
The title says it all really. Wondering if the Amaze would work here on T-Mobile Austria which uses UMTS 2100. I read somewhere else that it relies on 1700 and 2100 for upload/download. Don't much about how this works.... or can the phone do both on the 2100 band? I sort of prefer it to a normal Sensation available here because it has NFC. Not that it has much use as of now....
EDIT: on Wiki it appears that T-Mobile Austria uses 1900 for upload and 2100 for download so I guess it wouldn't work.
Lawk said:
Hello,
The title says it all really. Wondering if the Amaze would work here on T-Mobile Austria which uses UMTS 2100. I read somewhere else that it relies on 1700 and 2100 for upload/download. Don't much about how this works.... or can the phone do both on the 2100 band? I sort of prefer it to a normal Sensation available here because it has NFC. Not that it has much use as of now....
EDIT: on Wiki it appears that T-Mobile Austria uses 1900 for upload and 2100 for download so I guess it wouldn't work.
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I'm also interested in this.
I live in italy and I'm not sure it's working in europe. Generally t-mobile's phones works in italy, but I want to be sure before I buy
Metallaro said:
I'm also interested in this.
I live in italy and I'm not sure it's working in europe. Generally t-mobile's phones works in italy, but I want to be sure before I buy
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it should, considering the network bands are the same as usual...
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Those are three bands listed on my box. Shows 1900 so I'm guessing it would work.
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You will be able to use the HTC Amaze to place calls pretty much anywhere in the world since it's quad-band.
For 3G however, the box indicates only UMTS bands AWS & 2100. So you just have to check if your carrier uses one of those bands for 3G (you can look at this page for example). As you can see, the phone will work in 3G pretty much everywhere in Europe.
Some carriers however use UMTS bands 2100 and 900. The 900 Mhz frequency has a wider coverage area and is quite cheap to set up since the carriers can use existing GSM antennas (with some modification of course). If your carrier is listed as using "900/2100", it basically means you'll only have 3G in densely populated areas (where UMTS 2100 is used) but not in remote areas (where UMTS 900 is used). Both frequencies' coverage maps should be available on your carrier's website.
Lawk and Metallaro: 900 Mhz doesn't seem to be in use in Austria nor in Italy, so you should have full 3G coverage with the HTC Amaze (unless Wikipedia is wrong of course).
Ok, thanks to all
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note: i know there is another thread on this, but it does not answer my question!
i want to buy an atrix to send to india... i know the voice will work once i root the phone...
the question is:
the 3g bands for the atrix are: "HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100"
the 3g bands in india are: "900 / 1800"
so would the 3g work in india, or does the atrix have to have both 900 AND 1800 for it to work? or will the 900 alone do the job??
vikramjatt11 said:
note: i know there is another thread on this, but it does not answer my question!
i want to buy an atrix to send to india... i know the voice will work once i root the phone...
the question is:
the 3g bands for the atrix are: "HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100"
the 3g bands in india are: "900 / 1800"
so would the 3g work in india, or does the atrix have to have both 900 AND 1800 for it to work? or will the 900 alone do the job??
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as far information available on the internet most of the GSM operators in india operate in 900/1800 MHz range.
For 3g most GSM based operators are in 1900 MHz range which is supported by atrix, although BSNL/MTNL operates 3g in 2100 MHz range which too is supported by atrix.
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vikramjatt11 said:
note: i know there is another thread on this, but it does not answer my question!
i want to buy an atrix to send to india... i know the voice will work once i root the phone...
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FYI u do not need to root ur phone in order for voice and data to work. Albeit u need to network unlock from AT&T which u can buy at many websites.
the question is:
the 3g bands for the atrix are: "HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100"
the 3g bands in india are: "900 / 1800"
so would the 3g work in india, or does the atrix have to have both 900 AND 1800 for it to work? or will the 900 alone do the job??
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More detailed information on this:
http://blog.anands.net/2010/08/03/choosing-a-3g-phone-for-india/
http://trak.in/tags/business/2010/05/19/3g-auction-update-spectrum-winners/
Atrix does not work with BSNL voice plan
I recently brought an ATT unlocked Atrix and it does not work with BSNL/Vodafone network in india for the voice and Data.
Im surprised that Voice plan does not work....Any idea...
I tried factory reset and restart the cell often.....
Thanks
Ravi
ravindrans76 said:
I recently brought an ATT unlocked Atrix and it does not work with BSNL/Vodafone network in india for the voice and Data.
Im surprised that Voice plan does not work....Any idea...
I tried factory reset and restart the cell often.....
Thanks
Ravi
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Did you unlock the imei to use it on ur country? It allows you to use ur sim card from ur national carrier.
If you didnt, that's the problem.
If you did, you should make sure you put correct apn's to makes internet connection working.
Greetings,
ravindrans76 said:
I recently brought an ATT unlocked Atrix and it does not work with BSNL/Vodafone network in india for the voice and Data.
Im surprised that Voice plan does not work....Any idea...
I tried factory reset and restart the cell often.....
Thanks
Ravi
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Try to change there baseband version
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I am planning to buy an unlocked Xperia Neo. But there are two version MT15a and MT15i, for US version and International version, respectively. I wanna know what are the difference between these two versions. And I live in USA(my phone service is T-mobile) , can i still use MT15i? Are the chargers for both same?
Thank you so much!
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I am planning to buy an unlocked Xperia Neo. But there are two version MT15a and MT15i, for US version and International version, respectively. I wanna know what are the difference between these two versions. And I live in USA(my phone service is T-mobile) , can i still use MT15i? Are the chargers for both same?
Thank you so much!
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It's on page 6 of this document:
http://dl-www.sonyericsson.com/cws/download/1/922/664/1315210962/neo_WP_6.pdf
If the chargers are the same depends on where you buy it. It will be sold with a British charger if you buy it in the UK, but the MT15a will likely have an American charger.
I is for europe.
Might not work in usa, difrent network signal.
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Thanks for all responses!
I have an unlocked MT15a because i live in Latin america, and those are the bands that works over here, however, i'm going to spain for three months, and i was wondering if i could change the 3g bands on my device to work with the european bands. or in other words, turn my MT15a device to an MA15i.
My previous device was a Motorola Milestone, and this was possible via openrecovery.
I think my #2 post is also relevant for you, search if they use the one of the supported frequencies by MT15a in Spain
redondogabriel said:
I have an unlocked MT15a because i live in Latin america, and those are the bands that works over here, however, i'm going to spain for three months, and i was wondering if i could change the 3g bands on my device to work with the european bands. or in other words, turn my MT15a device to an MA15i.
My previous device was a Motorola Milestone, and this was possible via openrecovery.
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I think it will work. In Spain we use the 900/1800 band
From Wiki:
"Africa, Europe, Middle East and Asia
In Africa, Europe, Middle East and Asia, most of the providers use 900 MHz and 1800 MHz bands. GSM-900 is most widely used. Fewer operators use DCS-1800 and GSM-1800. A dual-band 900/1800 phone is required to be compatible with almost all operators. At least the GSM-900 band must be supported in order to be compatible with many operators."
I've been searching high and low for a phone that will work on both T-mobile and AT&T. The Galaxy Nexus was going to be my choice, but it has way too many problems (screen being the biggest issue).
I found this version of the Razr Maxx which says that it has bands for both AT&T and T-Mobile. My question to you guys is this: If I buy this phone, will I be able to use it and get full 3G (HSPA+) speeds on either carrier?
http://www.clove.co.uk/motorola-razr-maxx
Thanks!
After doing some more research, it seems that the phone has to have 1700/2100 bands in order to work on T-Mobile.
The phone has 2100 band. Does this mean that T-Mobile 3G HSPA will work only when the area has that band, or not at all?
That model runs on :
GSM/GPRS Yes
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Frequencies850/900/1800/1900 MHz
and/or
3G/HSPA Yes
Frequencies2100/1900/900/850 Mhz
So YES, that model WILL WORK on ATT/TMO. Both companies have roaming agreements with each other and other companies which would allow your device to work if and when you are within a coverage area. NOT ALL features may work in certain areas AND data may be a certain speed in 1 area and in another it may be MUCH MUCH SLOWER due to the fact that it is using your 2G/GSM bands because there is no 3G/HSPA aka HSPA+ aka 4G (aka by ATT and/or TMO). This particular model CANNOT AND WILL NOT ever get true 4G/LTE.
Hope this helps...
Thanks for the answer. After doing a lot of research, I've learned that it WILL work for AT&T 3G/"4G" speeds, and will NOT work for T-Mobile 3G/"4G" speeds.
Reason being is that even though it has the 2100 band, it doesn't have the 1700 band, which T-Mobile requires for full HSPA speed. It uses one for uplink and the other for downlink. So even though it has one of the bands, I'll never be able to get full speed 3G on it.
ajm786 said:
Thanks for the answer. After doing a lot of research, I've learned that it WILL work for AT&T 3G/"4G" speeds, and will NOT work for T-Mobile 3G/"4G" speeds.
Reason being is that even though it has the 2100 band, it doesn't have the 1700 band, which T-Mobile requires for full HSPA speed. It uses one for uplink and the other for downlink. So even though it has one of the bands, I'll never be able to get full speed 3G on it.
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after many years of following this stuff, and as a user of both tmo & att services, i must say you are exactly correct! i vaguely recall reading about a pentaband phone in development that would do 3g on both services, but lost track of whether it ever came to market
edit: turns out pentaband phones exist:
forums.androidcentral.com/android-hardware/170487-pentaband-phones.html
i'm surprised the RAZR wasn't developed as penta...
This is a technical question and even though it's about the t-mobile t999 I decided to post it here as well because the post relates to the international version as well. Here it is:
I live in Israel. I used to live in the US. Last time I was in the US I bought this phone and brought it over. I did my research beforehand and knowingly purchased the phone assuming I would have full compatible with Israeli service providers...
Now, I'm not so sure anymore. I just tried the phone today.. maybe 5 hours of use. Still have the default OS installed. No root or anything. The signal seems to fluctuate going between Edge and higher speed networks.
Here's what it says about Cellcom on wikipedia:
Cellcom eventually sought to replace the 850 MHz TDMA frequencies it owns with standard 900 MHz GSM frequencies but Pelephone and Partner (Orange) petitioned the Ministry of Communications to deny this for technical reasons. This put Cellcom at a disadvantage since though most of its users had converted to GSM, they were not able to make use of the lower frequency's better in-building penetration and greater cell reach.
With its entry into 3G wireless services Cellcom demoed the first mobile video call in Israel. Since the beginning of 2006, Cellcom began deploying a 3G UMTS-2100 network nationwide which by the end of 2007 covered than 87% of the population. Cellcom was the first in Israel to launch an HSDPA network (also called "Generation 3.5") nationwide. In 2011, Cellcom began to deploy UMTS services in the 850 MHz band, employing unused capacity in that frequency range since it had very few TDMA customers remaining. The Israeli Ministry of Communications has approved Cellcom's plan to shut down the TDMA-850 network on 31 December 2011.
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It supports the following networks:
GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, SMS, MMS, iMode
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I just put the SIM card back in my old international Galaxy 2 i9100T and it'll fluctuate between HSDPA: 8 and HSPA+:15. Also it displays an H icon in the status bar (I don't think Resurrection rom is capable of displaying an H+).
Anyway, I'm going to put the SIM back in the Galaxy 3 t999. It now fluctuates between EDGE: 2, HSPAP: 15, HSPA: 11, and UMTS: 3. The signal is shifty and only displays a 3G at the top, no H like the international Galaxy 2.
Here's what wikipedia lists as the differences between the two models of the Galaxy 3 (standard international i9300 and my t-mobile t999):
Model GT-I9300;
2G networks: 850, 900, 1,800, 1,900 MHz GSM / GPRS / EDGE
3G networks: 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz UMTS / HSPA+
no 4G of course
max speed: 21 Mbit/s HSPA+
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Model SGH-T999;
2G networks: 850, 900, 1,800, 1,900 MHz GSM / GPRS / EDGE
3G networks: 850, 1,700 (AWS/Band IV), 1,900, 2,100 MHz UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+
no 4G either
max speed: 42 Mbit/s DC-HSPA+
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and this is what gsmarena.com says about the cellular capabilities of Israel:
2G capabilities: Required GSM 900 Recommended GSM 900 and GSM 1800
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3G capabilities: Required UMTS 2100 Recommended UMTS 850 and UMTS 2100
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So what do you think is going on??? Doesn't the t-mobile Galaxy 3 t999 support all the networks that Israel currently has operating???
It could be an OS issue. Have you tried flashing yet?
You will never get an H or H+ with a T-Mobile branded GS3. It's as simple as looking at your User Manual.
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Your phone contains all the networks for Israel, but it's optimized for T-Mobile's network. So you aren't going to get the performance you would get with the International GSIII.
I need some technical help; I want to purchase a SONY xperia SX or praying a 850/1900 shows up soon as I doubt the nexus variant will be this small (if it even will come).
However the spec sheet shows that:
LTE 2100 (Band I)
HSPA+ 800 (Band VI), 800 (Band XIX), 2100 (Band I) GSM 850/900/1800/1900
I want to use the phone on AT&T HSPA which is Band II (1900) and Band V (850) <-this one
This WONT work right even though Band VI and XIX are narrower in TX/RX than Band V? I don't want to spend $900 and be stuck using this phone on 2G/EDGE only. Stupid bands.
please forgive me as I posted in the arc s q&a but I never got a reply. i figure there are enough technical minded folk here that can answer my question.
T-Mobile USA
Similar question as OP, except for bands on T-Mobile (1700MHz & 2100MHz needed for 4G). I use an SE Xperia Ray (ST18a) on T-Mobile US, but only get 2G. It is adequate for now. Was wondering if I would be losing ALL data functionality or might gain some with the Sony Xperia SX SO-05D.
Thanks!
I have one!
I live in Japan and have just purchased an SX.
If there is anything I can do with the handset to answer your questions let me know how.
I am experienced in the fact i can follow forum instructions quite well (have rooted/Jailbroken/flashed custom firmware etc on mine and my friends' phones) but a newbie in the fact I have never coded, made my own ROMs etc.
As this is a Japan exclusive phone I really want to know if I am going to be able to flash custom ROMs etc? It seems there is already a "one-click root" on the Japanese forums but CWM isn't fully working yet and i don't know if they will develop ROMs or port CyanogenMod to it.
Seeing as SE are really unreliable with updates I would like to have a failsafe in case they dont release any. How would I go about porting CM10 for example myself? Is it something only an experienced coder can do?
Many thanks in advance.
As I previously wrote: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39144776#post39144776
I have been using an SX on AT&T in the USA for a couple months. LTE does not work but HSPA seems OK. Using speedtest.net, I have seen over 4 Mbps but usually it is much closer to 1 Mbps in practical use. That's a far cry from the theoretical maximum for HSPA, but it's pretty fast.
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