Hello,
I've had my GS II for about a week, and the battery life has been pretty stellar, except for days where I work at the office. For some reason, there, the battery drains at about 2x the rate than in other areas. A very similar thing happened with my Captivate, but the battery lasts longer with the GS II.
However, today, at around 1PM, my phone started heating up so that it was hot to the touch, and the battery drained 60% in about 1.5 hours. Something went terribly wrong. And even plugged in, it was draining faster than it could charge!
How can I find out what happened? I don't want this to happen again.
The only thing I did was listen to a podcast with BeyondPod, but I do that every day at work over lunch. So, nothing new in my utilization.
Any ideas appreciated!
Thanks,
Jon
(AT&T SG II, stock, unrooted)
May be the GPS - same experience here.
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Thanks, but GPS was not on. Neither was WiFi. Just Bluetooth. It's the same settings I have every day at work, because Tasker sets my settings automatically based on cell tower location.
What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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kletiz said:
What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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JonDeutsch said:
If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
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Edit: Just noticed he responded just before me. Lol. You can ignore my post.
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I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Was there anything else in your battery usage stats?
What about wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats?
Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
Had the same thing happen to me yesterday. I am stock rooted.
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ljwnow said:
Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
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Unfortunately, AOS often falsely reports high. Sometimes high AOS usage is fine, sometimes it's not.
I've gotten some of my best battery life with AOS at 60%.
Can't tell what happened to you without some statistics.
karth500 said:
I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Yeah, this sounds very similar to what happened to me, but with stock ROM.
Two follow-on questions:
1. If it's ROM-independent, then could it be something in the hardware that's short-circuiting? Like... the cellular chipset, or perhaps the modem firmware?
2. Can you explain what about CM 7.1 is so superior to the stock rom, which I'm finding pretty fantastic at the moment?
Thanks,
Jon
kletiz said:
No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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Unfortunately, I don't think I can go back in history, can I? It's a new day, with a new charge... and I'm imagining that the battery meters reflect today's activity, not yesterday's disaster...
Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
i never had battery drain but once in a while I do notice my phone gets hot on the back cover in between the SGS logo and the camera while I'm using it. If I put it down for a bit, it cools off. I figured it was just hot from use and I never thought anything more of it.
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Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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What make you think GS2 is any better than other Android phones in this regard? Anyone can make a mistake or two in programming and it is impossible to write bug free code.
Remember, latest Android Gingerbread OS is 2.3.7 and we are at 2.3.4. There are a lot of bug fixes (and new bugs) in each incremental release from Google alone. On top of that you have Samsung's customization code and various apps you installed.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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You still need to convince them, trust me.
Anyways..here is what I was getting at last night.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-os-what-is-it/
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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It does happen to iPhones for sure. We switched from blackberry devices to the iPhone, at work, three months ago. We had five different devices experience similar heat and battery issues. The cause is typically from apps or services that sync with online data.
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I properly installed the rom, at least I think so, and everything seems to working just fine. The only thing that worries me is slight shocking from touching the camera button
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I properly installed the rom, at least I think so, and everything seems to working just fine. The only thing that worries me is slight shocking from touching the camera button
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Sounds like you have somethin grounding out in the phone hardware issue.
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I don't see how the hardware could have messed up within a few hours. This was not happening with other roms, I flashed MeanROM less than 4 hours ago. Everything booted up fine, and from what I can see there is nothing wrong with it except for that small issue. I haven't full tested as I'm scared of actually getting shocked.. lol
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I properly installed the rom, at least I think so, and everything seems to working just fine. The only thing that worries me is slight shocking from touching the camera button
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You really think a rom would cause the phone to shock you?
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There's a reason why it's "mean."
Wow
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hahahaha 10 char
Maybe, I've ran ROMs that have made my phone feel warmer than usual. I was asking to see what else it could be, beginning to think it may have been my charger.
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Maybe, I've ran ROMs that have made my phone feel warmer than usual. I was asking to see what else it could be, beginning to think it may have been my charger.
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I'm beginning to think you have Down Syndrome.
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I'm beginning to think you have Down Syndrome.
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Perhaps, that's not funny though and rather rude. There was no need to use such a term, as there is plenty of other things you could have said.
All flaming aside, the guys are trying to say something. There is no real way for the ROM to be the cause of a continuous hardware problem such as that. "Getting Warmer" makes sense because of things the Kernel may be doing or RAM intensive background tasks , but a camera button creating an electric shock because of a ROM no. To prove this point (and what you could have done before making the thread specific about MeanROM) is flash a different ROM, and see the problem still persisting
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I'm beginning to think you have Down Syndrome.
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Lol not helpful but funny.... But again I think the guy has hardware issues with the phone like something grounding out which is causing a shock effect not related to the rom ... Hardware issue... I would take it to sprint..
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Lol not helpful but funny.... But again I think the guy has hardware issues with the phone like something grounding out which is causing a shock effect not related to the rom ... Hardware issue... I would take it to sprint..
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If I take it to Sprint, would my insurance(TEP) cover it even though I rooted? Also, I understand that ROMs should not cause severe hardware issues but, as I'm still a newbie, it was something which I needed some suggestions. On a side note,I've been running the ROM for a few days now and the issue went away after I removed battery and has not come back. The ROM is great and the battery life is amazing, 4 hours of Netflix on 3G at 50-75% brightness for 90%. My battery then lasted another 5 hours on the last 10% with a few calls, texts, and data.
Thanks to all for the suggestions, will keep looking into it and continue reading.
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If I take it to Sprint, would my insurance(TEP) cover it even though I rooted? Also, I understand that ROMs should not cause severe hardware issues but, as I'm still a newbie, it was something which I needed some suggestions. On a side note,I've been running the ROM for a few days now and the issue went away after I removed battery and has not come back. The ROM is great and the battery life is amazing, 4 hours of Netflix on 3G at 50-75% brightness for 90%. My battery then lasted another 5 hours on the last 10% with a few calls, texts, and data.
Thanks to all for the suggestions, will keep looking into it and continue reading.
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no sprint will not support the phone if they see if its root. they will tell you to reload the stock software. the only way they would support it is if you drop it in water or something where the phone didn't turn on anymore. because at that point they don't know or would know if it was rooted.
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If I take it to Sprint, would my insurance(TEP) cover it even though I rooted? Also, I understand that ROMs should not cause severe hardware issues but, as I'm still a newbie, it was something which I needed some suggestions. On a side note,I've been running the ROM for a few days now and the issue went away after I removed battery and has not come back. The ROM is great and the battery life is amazing, 4 hours of Netflix on 3G at 50-75% brightness for 90%. My battery then lasted another 5 hours on the last 10% with a few calls, texts, and data.
Thanks to all for the suggestions, will keep looking into it and continue reading.
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You shoudnt have any issues just unroot .
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Is anyone else getting Android OS around 50-60% battery use?
I have tried every ROM included going back to stock. I have ran the phone with nothing but Stock and no apps installed for a day and still get the same drain so I can only assume its a kernel issue.
I am not familiar with LG products in the slightest, but I had a yellow screen of death the other day...something I have never seen in my years with samsung android products. Anyone have any idea what this is maybe it is pointing to a hardware issue?
LG made a great phone, but I don't think I will keep it much longer. Locked boot loaders, no sources, and history of terrible updates have me regretting purchasing this phone. I tried my hand at building a working jb release when I first got the phone and it is going to take a skill set I do not have and I hate waiting on a company to do what they've never done in the past..
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Is anyone else getting Android OS around 50-60% battery use?
I have tried every ROM included going back to stock. I have ran the phone with nothing but Stock and no apps installed for a day and still get the same drain so I can only assume its a kernel issue.
I am not familiar with LG products in the slightest, but I had a yellow screen of death the other day...something I have never seen in my years with samsung android products. Anyone have any idea what this is maybe it is pointing to a hardware issue?
LG made a great phone, but I don't think I will keep it much longer. Locked boot loaders, no sources, and history of terrible updates have me regretting purchasing this phone. I tried my hand at building a working jb release when I first got the phone and it is going to take a skill set I do not have and I hate waiting on a company to do what they've never done in the past..
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Easy, brother. I have only had one of my apps/utilities run higher than AndroidOS ever on this phone; however, that said, I think there is a problem with the way it's being calculated. I'm getting really good battery life with good sleep and still AndroidOS shows the highest by far. I know that's abnormal for it to be so high and still get good battery life, but it is what it is.
Edit: you've installed the fast dormancy toggle, right? As for the yellow screen, I've seen it once in my two months with the phone, just rebooted and carried on. Forgot what they said it was...but it is here in this forum somewhere.
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I was just about to post something similar. Andriod OS being high kind of makes sense if nothing else is using the battery, although you would expect that number to fall significantly with increased screen on time and heavy app usage, which it doesn't ever seem to.
I've been having horrible battery drain lately. I'm currently traveling for business, and just use my OG for web surfing and stuff when I'm in my hotel. I leave the phone in airplane mode, with WiFi on. About two weeks ago, when I was on The Base 0.4 in that same configuration, my battery would drain maybe 1% an hour while I was sleeping.
Recently I've been on The Base 0.7.3, and my battery drains over 5% an hour while I'm sleeping. This means no screen on, no apps running, and even turning WiFi off! How does it use that much battery when it's not doing anything? Now, I'm not entirely sure what kernel I'm running. The first time I installed The Base 0.7.3 I used sk8's kernel. After getting poor battery life, I reflashed 0.7 and 0.7.3, this time choosing the freegee kernel. I'm not actually sure if the kernel changed though.
Anyway, I think I'll post again tomorrow with some screenshots from Better Battery Stats+ and CPU Spy.
I'm wondering if this recent botched update had the battery fixes we need. Hopefully they'll re-release it soon.
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Easy, brother. I have only had one of my apps/utilities run higher than AndroidOS ever on this phone; however, that said, I think there is a problem with the way it's being calculated. I'm getting really good battery life with good sleep and still AndroidOS shows the highest by far. I know that's abnormal for it to be so high and still get good battery life, but it is what it is.
Edit: you've installed the fast dormancy toggle, right? As for the yellow screen, I've seen it once in my two months with the phone, just rebooted and carried on. Forgot what they said it was...but it is here in this forum somewhere.
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Yea I've tried fdt but I think it has to be kernel related drain issues
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Digil said:
I was just about to post something similar. Andriod OS being high kind of makes sense if nothing else is using the battery, although you would expect that number to fall significantly with increased screen on time and heavy app usage, which it doesn't ever seem to.
I've been having horrible battery drain lately. I'm currently traveling for business, and just use my OG for web surfing and stuff when I'm in my hotel. I leave the phone in airplane mode, with WiFi on. About two weeks ago, when I was on The Base 0.4 in that same configuration, my battery would drain maybe 1% an hour while I was sleeping.
Recently I've been on The Base 0.7.3, and my battery drains over 5% an hour while I'm sleeping. This means no screen on, no apps running, and even turning WiFi off! How does it use that much battery when it's not doing anything? Now, I'm not entirely sure what kernel I'm running. The first time I installed The Base 0.7.3 I used sk8's kernel. After getting poor battery life, I reflashed 0.7 and 0.7.3, this time choosing the freegee kernel. I'm not actually sure if the kernel changed though.
Anyway, I think I'll post again tomorrow with some screenshots from BatteryStats+ and CPU Spy.
I'm wondering if this recent botched update had the battery fixes we need. Hopefully they'll re-release it soon.
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When I would get bad drain, which has happened several times, I could narrow it down to a couple things in order to solve the problem.
In my case it would always happen after installing Google+. Uninstall and reboot would usually fix the issue. If I got drain on a fresh install without g+ installed, I found that if I installed the 2.2 kernel separately as a stand alone zip, that would fix it. Don't know why but it may work for you too.
I don't have screen shots, but today I recharged at 38% after 3:10 of phone use and 1:55 screen on time and about 15 hours off charger. That's with Wi-Fi on the whole time and Bluetooth for about 9 hours. I have my work exchange account on active sync with push notifications. Facebook and Twitterer to 4 hour intervals. I'm underclocked to 1350 and using powersave gov with deadline.
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Yea I've tried fdt but I think it has to be kernel related drain issues
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Believe you are correct. There were issues on the Samsung Infuse and even the international SGS3 for a while... it was referred to as 'memory leak.' Has been worked out by devs on XDA. You can put memory leak in the XDA search above... it's above my pay grade.
Edit: It's great to see another RD here... hope you will reconsider keeping the phone and stay !!
Jank4AU said:
When I would get bad drain, which has happened several times, I could narrow it down to a couple things in order to solve the problem.
In my case it would always happen after installing Google+. Uninstall and reboot would usually fix the issue. If I got drain on a fresh install without g+ installed, I found that if I installed the 2.2 kernel separately as a stand alone zip, that would fix it. Don't know why but it may work for you too.
I don't have screen shots, but today I recharged at 38% after 3:10 of phone use and 1:55 screen on time and about 15 hours off charger. That's with Wi-Fi on the whole time and Bluetooth for about 9 hours. I have my work exchange account on active sync with push notifications. Facebook and Twitterer to 4 hour intervals. I'm underclocked to 1350 and using powersave gov with deadline.
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have Google+ uninstalled, but part of me thinks Google Now may be partially the culprit (although why that would be the case with all radios off, I don't know).
I'll try a fresh install of the 2.2 kernel and see if that helps. Thanks.
I can't speak for anyone else but FDT did wonders for my battery life. I was only able to go about 12 hours prior to disabling FD.
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have Google+ uninstalled, but part of me thinks Google Now may be partially the culprit (although why that would be the case with all radios off, I don't know).
I'll try a fresh install of the 2.2 kernel and see if that helps. Thanks.
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I always install GNow, love the inverted version.
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I can't speak for anyone else but FDT did wonders for my battery life. I was only able to go about 12 hours prior to disabling FD.
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This is good for sure... it's just that compared to other phones, Android OS and Android System should not be that high.
Pony Express said:
This is good for sure... it's just that compared to other phones, Android OS and Android System should not be that high.
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That's what leads me to believe it's a faulty measure...
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That's what leads me to believe it's a faulty measure...
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^^^ This is indeed worth considering.... I think the question then becomes why is it consistent among the 3 roms we are using? Maybe when JB source is out and something is built from source all will be good.
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^^^ This is indeed worth considering.... I think the question then becomes why is it consistent among the 3 roms we are using? Maybe when JB source is out and something is built from source all will be good.
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I would be less inclined to believe it is a faulty measure if we had a different ROM not built off stock (AOKP/CM10) that could produce different values. However, I seriously doubt anything built into either of the two custom ROM's is geared toward normalizing that reading. That's why they are both the same as the stock AndroidOS percentages. Jivy is probably right that it's a kernel issue. With the size battery we have, imagine the potential if it is a true reading (androidOS out-of-control) and we can get it under control down the road. We're talking double the current best battery life you've ever had on this phone at the very least.
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Get BetterBatteryStats, select Since unplugged and Alarms to see what is waking the device (making it not go into a deep sleep). eBay was a big culprit for me.
The wakelock that keeps the phone awake during background data transfer (screen off) lasts 6 seconds (I am guessing it does it in multiples of 6s) regardless of how long the sync takes. Everytime email, facebook, gmail, drive, picasa, twitter, g+, google maps, ebay, calendar, contacts.. whatever wakes the phone to check something, it will be a minimum of 6 seconds.. This adds up over the course of the day and it is counted in the Android OS. Shut down syncs you don't absolutely want/need and this number will go down. All phones with the Snapdragon S4 Pro has it, especially the Nexus4. It seems they've done some kernel work to fix/reduce it but I havent really looked into it since I don't have that phone. I've seen complaints in the Droid DNA forum as well.
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Get BetterBatteryStats, select Since unplugged and Alarms to see what is waking the device (making it not go into a deep sleep). eBay was a big culprit for me.
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This. EBay for me too. BetterBatteryStats is your friend.
Anyone else experiencing scrolling lag or delay. Clearing cache and wiping dalvik fixes it but the issue returns after about two days.
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Anyone else experiencing scrolling lag or delay. Clearing cache and wiping dalvik fixes it but the issue returns after about two days.
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Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
So I just got my HTC one on Sunday night. The first thing I did is let the battery charge up and then drained it to less than 3% and recharged. Ive been getting horrible battery usage since Sunday and am starting to worry that I might have a hw issue. For example, today I woke up at 5:30 and unplugged my phone. Its now 10:15 and I am at less than 30% with less than 30min of screen time (in battery save mode). Should I just go back and replace with my 30 day warranty? Or should I try to calibrate it? I have yet to root it because I just got it, so no custom kernels or roms that might be draining it. The idle and HTC Sense seem to be the programs draining it the worst based on the stock battery usage report.
Give it a few cycles
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
ExcelonGT said:
I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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I don't know the exact mechanics of it but battery life almost always improves after using it for a little while, that's the way phones work
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Wow, that's a lot. You may want to check apps running in the background. The culprit on mine is the Kernel and there's nothing I can do about it.
I'm actually getting pretty much the same battery life. Prior to the update my average was 13 hrs. 4 hrs screen time. All on stock.
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I've never heard of the whole settling of the battery with my previous phones. Usually just the whole make sure to drain it all the way the first time and get a full charge, then it would be good. That being said, I could very well be wrong and you may be right, but if it is a hardware issue I would like to return before its too late
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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a battery is not software
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a battery is not software
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I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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i'm not 100% sure but my assumption would be that, new ROMs change your phone entirely. they assign different values to resources, it pretty much changes everything that your battery has grown custom to, so maybe the battery needs to settle in and get used to how resources are now being used.
i also notice reduce battery life. went back to 4.1.2.
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i also notice reduce battery life. went back to 4.1.2.
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Thinking of downgrade too
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Yeah, this is obviously not a good thing
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Me the same. Andoird system has the most battery consumption...! Any solution?
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ExcelonGT said:
I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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It's mainly for the kernel. It has to run thousands of lines of new code, build the caches, add thumbnails, sync all your stuff, etc. It usually doesn't take a few cycles though, just one.
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It's a reported problem with several devices from what I've researched.the nexus 4 and 7 have had the same issues.Sprint has acknowledged the issue also.now it's just a waiting game.
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When I updated to 4.3 my battery life was horrible. I would get 3 hours and it was dead. I factory reset and all is well! I've been on battery for 11 hours and have 40% left!
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As people have said, you have to let it go through a few cycles before it proforms stably. When I first got mine it was the same situation you describe, couldn't even make it through half a day without charging. Without changing anything (seriously, everything is still stock), that increased to regularly getting 40hrs per charge with about 2hrs screen on time. I could claim that the software is learning or that the hardware handling the battery is improving, but I don't know, I just know that this is a pretty universal phenomenon and it is real. And for me 4.3 had only made it better (not much though, but definitely not worse).
Just give it time, it's about to get good
Also, I can tell you from my tests earlier on that wifi was one of my biggest battery drains, so I just don't use it at all now. But you could just get in the habit of turning it off at certain times or get tasker to handle that). Also power saver is useful, I do notice it slow down but only in the text message app, everything else is still very smooth and fast. And yes, even now the Android system averages 80% of total drain for me. A large portion of that is wakelocks, and there's lots of excellent tutorials on xda about how to find and deal with some of them. Personally I've made my peace with the ones I encounter, so although people tell me losing 5-8%overnight to them is too much, I'm fine with that. Again, much better now than my initial use led me to believe.
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xcrazydx said:
It's mainly for the kernel. It has to run thousands of lines of new code, build the caches, add thumbnails, sync all your stuff, etc. It usually doesn't take a few cycles though, just one.
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Makes sense. Thanks
If it's draining as fast as you say suggestion is charge it up, put it in airplane mode over night. If it still drains, bring it back for a replacement.
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Any experiencing any bugs?
Just saw this...
http://phandroid.com/2013/11/18/android-4-3-update-for-galaxy-devices-gets-pulled/
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Chuckleb0ne said:
Any experiencing any bugs?
Just saw this...
http://phandroid.com/2013/11/18/android-4-3-update-for-galaxy-devices-gets-pulled/
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Would be nice if they made some way for us to roll back to MI1... I've noticed less stable wifi, as well as she chews through battery at almost double the rate of 4.2.2. Should have waited to update, newer isn't always better. I think my 4G is more powerful now though.
That's for AT&T version. Not sure how much is different compared to verizon version.
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That's for AT&T version. Not sure how much is different compared to verizon version.
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Comments from phandroid suggest verizon s4 have problems too. Battery life had greatly reduced on mine.
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Comments from phandroid suggest verizon s4 have problems too. Battery life had greatly reduced on mine.
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hmm interesting. I actually just got my S4 coming from my S3. Battery life is a decent bit better than my S3. But I haven't had any issues with it so far.
My Verizon S4 4.3 has been running fine. No problems with WiFi or battery life. Maybe Verizon did something right when they agreed to have 4.3 released.
My battery life sucks since the update. Another thing I noticed is my data use has been a lot higher and I haven't done anything different. I got a text last week that I'm at 90% of my usage...I have never even gone over 75% before.
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jwendt79 said:
My battery life sucks since the update. Another thing I noticed is my data use has been a lot higher and I haven't done anything different. I got a text last week that I'm at 90% of my usage...I have never even gone over 75% before.
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I can agree with the data increase, im usually pushing my data limit but never this bad. I went an entire gig over and havent changed my habits any.
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I got my phone about 2 weeks ago from a Craigslist trade. With the stock 4.3 and it seems great to me!
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I got the OTA for 4.3 today, so it appears not pulled over the weekend for our phones.
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My battery life sucks since the update. Another thing I noticed is my data use has been a lot higher and I haven't done anything different. I got a text last week that I'm at 90% of my usage...I have never even gone over 75% before.
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I have noticed an increase in data usage since the upgrade also
I haven't noticed any specific issues, but I am with everyone else on the data usage. I have used a surprising amount of mine. I do wish that exterior development was a little more supported by the companies :/
Via Betterbatstats app I am draining at 3.1% after 4.3 update,
Not really that bad for me.
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Would be nice if they made some way for us to roll back to MI1... I've noticed less stable wifi, as well as she chews through battery at almost double the rate of 4.2.2. Should have waited to update, newer isn't always better. I think my 4G is more powerful now though.
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I'm noticing a lot of wi-fi issues on my work connection which has a weak signal. I've gone from being able to connect (with frequent drop-outs) to not being able to get a stable connection at all. Really wishing I wouldn't have taken the update.
I saw a website last night on the pulling of the 4.3 update. It seems almost every carrier is affected by these bugs. There is a list of issues that the site posted...blank black screen...WiFi issues...music player launching...Verizon car charger not working. The ones I've noticed are battery life...Verizon car charger...phone going between eG and 4G a lot more often. Here is the site I found this all from.
http://www.androidpit.com/android-4-3-update-s4-problems
I've also notice a issue where my Samsung charger while charging my phone said to use the OEM charger for better charging performance..I think the update has a bug that is causing the charging port to report false indications or not work at all (Verizon car charger). Dunno but it looks like were stuck with it until VZW or Samsung pushes a update with fixes.
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I'm rooted on MI1 and froze OTA updates, so am happy not to be a test bed. Wife's S4, unrooted, had the 4.3 update pushed onto her phone over the weekend but I haven't heard any complaints from her...so far.
I'm happy to let the dust settle before taking the update plunge!
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I saw a website last night on the pulling of the 4.3 update. It seems almost every carrier is affected by these bugs. There is a list of issues that the site posted...blank black screen...WiFi issues...music player launching...Verizon car charger not working. The ones I've noticed are battery life...Verizon car charger...phone going between eG and 4G a lot more often. ......
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Huh, here I thought it was due to my tinkering. But since 4.3, I've had the battery drainage and charger issue along with terrible performance. Even before this disaster, I was getting tired of the weak vibration and ringtone, and slow performance. Its loaded with so much crap that it can barley do its core functions. I'm so turned off that I've been actively looking for alternative. Hell, blackberry is starting to look good.
I can go about a day and a half to two days of if I'm not using my phone much... I haven't noticed that that's any difference from pre mj7
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I'm noticing a lot of wi-fi issues on my work connection which has a weak signal. I've gone from being able to connect (with frequent drop-outs) to not being able to get a stable connection at all. Really wishing I wouldn't have taken the update.
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I've noticed that it won't find my GPS location any more after turning off use wireless networks and GPS flashes in and out all the time, along with black screens, apps crashing all the time, bad battery life, horrible performance, phone freezes and won't be able to do anything.
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All I know is the lag on mine is almost unbearable. My stock s3 was significantly better.
The G2 has a fantastic battery already, why not make it even better?
I like to see how far I can push this phone's battery. In no way does that mean that you need too as well, but for those of you that do want a few more hours or another day, I'm happy to share what I've learned.
After I've spent time learning the quirks of this phone, and most of its respective ROMs, I've come up with quite a few tricks for improving battery life, some specific to this phone, some just in android general. I now get average 3-4 days battery life, when I use the phone quite often during the day all day long.
It is your personal preference on how much of android's background services that you use compared to apps. This is only suggestions for the users that want to improve battery life.
Heres some of the simplest questions you can ask yourself when you go through the settings center:
Do I really need this feature enabled? Do I use it often? Even if I do occasionaly use it, is it that much of a pain to just turn on when I need it?
Do I really need GPS on 24/7? How often do I really use GPS?
How many apps do I need running in the background?
Do I need to keep autobright on, or keep the screen super bright?
That being said, here are some of the simple things that Ive done.
I keep everything off unless I use it every day.
I keep GPS off 24/7, I never use it.
Out of habit, I always close all apps.
I keep autobright off and keep the screen on 14 brightness. Unless Im right outside in the sun its easy to see, and if I am I can just turn it up with the quick setting.
Some of the more advanced stuff I do, that completely varies on your ROM:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
Currently Im using CleanROM, I switch between it and Cyanogen about once a week, just cant make up my mind on stability v. features, but on CleanROM, some of the stuff I have currently froze
Nearly anything involving Verizon, the carrier APKs are massive bloatware.
I disabled a lot of google services, some people may rely on these, personally I dont, the biggest two google apps I use are chrome and Gmail.
If your on a stock based ROM, disable the LG services you dont use. Textlink wastes a huge amount of power, as does QSlide.
(This applies alot more to carrier based roms than it does Cyanogen/AOSP, but even they do have a few unneccesary servcices.) Be careful when you are touching system services, if you dont know what one does, a google on its function is helpful.
Use a different launcher. Excluding the stock google launcher, most factory launchers are very inefficient, LG Home is no exception. Personally, I use SmartLauncher, a very light and very nice looking launcher with a fantastic layout. Nova I know is very light on resources aswell.
The more widgets you have cluttering your screen, the more power they will waste.
I can personally confirm myself that Kitkat based roms have incredible battery life after they settle in for a few days, the kernel level improvements brought with KitKat are very noticable. Currently Gummy Rom and three CM11 builds exist for KitKat, why not give them a try?
If you have unusually high battery usage, check your wakelocks, and see what exactly is using all the power, and you can disable/turn it off and remove that battery drain.
On a final note, comeon guys turn your phones off at night. I have yet to hear a good reason to leave it running over night, all it does is waste power and most commonly let the notification light run for 8 hours. If you use your phone as a alarm, you could turn on airplain mode overnight.
These are just some of the things that I do, if you have any more suggestions, feel free to post them or message me, I'll be glad to add them to the list.
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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shahkam said:
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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polaric said:
What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
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U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
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I only buy a new phone when Verizon let's me, I just enjoy seeing how far I can push each phone's battery. Some people go crazy on theming, I go crazy on battery life. A few people wondered what I did, so I just made this.
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I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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quachhanthanh said:
I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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So u should make a thread to bring out list junk apps of android. That is more helpful.
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polaric said:
I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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GPS is not pointless, it uses for Facebook, navigation, weather update, yelp and a lot of apps.. what you deem is pointless is different than everyone...your reason to own a smartphone is seriously wrong in so many ways...just saying man but its your money.
Honestly people should just enjoy the phone rather than trying to make it last longer. If your phone can make it through the day then consider that a successful phone.
I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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Great write up. Thanks for sharing ??
I have just clocked it to 1,5 and frezeed a few LG stuff. I'm always from 5 hour screentime and up. If I just reading a weekend between 8 and 9 [one time ]
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How do u freez the apps?
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Instead of turning it OFF for the night, turn ON Aeroplane mode. That consumes less energy, than a turn off and on. This also solves the alarm problem, and no email or whatsoever shall wake you up at while you sleep
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3thman said:
How do u freez the apps?
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Thanks for the tips!
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Thanks. I found this thread very useful
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I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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It completely depends on how often said application is opened, and what it does while idle. I know out of hand while I'm at work I see several people with 3-4 games left open on their phone, this is more what I was reffering too.
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polaric said:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
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Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
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jesssiii said:
Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
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I wrote this late last night, so I didnt have time to look through the list of everything I froze, but I'll add it to the OP in the next few minutes since I have a few free moments.