I've always been under the assumption that it's best to turn GPS entirely off when I don't need it to help save on battery life. I was just reading a thread on another site and it gave me the impression that if it's turned on and the icon is not showing on the status bar, like it does when I'm using Maps, then it's not really tying up any CPU time and draining the battery.
Would that be accurate?
Im pretty sure its true, if maps isn't running, GPS doesnt need to fetch data therefore power isn't used by the GPS radio to fetch coodinates
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Im pretty sure its true, if maps isn't running, GPS doesnt need to fetch data therefore power isn't used by the GPS radio to fetch coodinates
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Yup, although sometimes if GPS is enabled, an app may turn it on when it really doesn't need to, which can sometimes cause battery drain.
Explicitly turning it off prevents this.
Yeah when I think about it, unlike wifi which can always be looking for a connection and BT will also be listening for a device to pair with, GPS doesn't really seem to 'look' for anything, it simply pulls data down upon request.
Do you guys specifically turn it off when it's not in use and by doing it, have you honestly noticed much of a difference?
I'm getting to the point where I'm micromanaging my phone too much and need to step back and just let the phone... be a phone.
i have a tasker profile set up that only turns on the GPS for the apps that i have it configured for, then turns GPS off after the app closes....
So I just noticed in BBS under partial wakelocks that I have 52mins worth of 'NetworkLocationLocator' with a count of 740. I've been having some odd battery drain today and no clue why. I've also noticed that Maps is in 'Running Services' and sometimes there are 2 of them and they can't be stopped.
I've opened Maps only after noticing this and GPS has been off. I run a weather widget but location is turned off. Nothing else I have installed uses any type of location feature (that I know of).
Any ideas what's causing this 52mins of wakelocks?
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So I just noticed in BBS under partial wakelocks that I have 52mins worth of 'NetworkLocationLocator' with a count of 740. I've been having some odd battery drain today and no clue why. I've also noticed that Maps is in 'Running Services' and sometimes there are 2 of them and they can't be stopped.
I've opened Maps only after noticing this and GPS has been off. I run a weather widget but location is turned off. Nothing else I have installed uses any type of location feature (that I know of).
Any ideas what's causing this 52mins of wakelocks?
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Did you accidentally turned on Latitude?
Nope, never used it. Not even sure what its for. Lol
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It is in gmaps. Once you sigbed in, it will use network location all the time. And there is no obvious way to sign out until you dig deep into the menus.
What it does is broadcasting your location to your friend 24/7.
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dig deep into which menus? i dont seem to have any options in google maps itself, besides a couple map cache options, and labs..
Some where in those menu trees, probably related to latitude, there its a button to sign out the latitude. Google made it so difficult to stop latitude to force you keep using it.
Edit: on latitude screen, menu-> settings. On top of the settings screen, trap on the text 'sign out latitude'.
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oh, i never use latitude..
i did start it up just to verify i was signed out like you said..
i still have a maps service started that when killed, comes right back..
gps is off, all location based stuff is off, i kill maps service, it comes right back..
i thought maybe this was keeping maps service open, must be something else.
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If i leave gps on.... and all the apps i have that may use gps (travel, voucher etc) do not run in the back ground,
except google maps.... will this really drain random battery throughout the day.
The reason I ask this is when using google maps...i see the gps symbol on the top of my phone, but once i back out of it...the symbol disappears, and when i go back into it to resume what i was doing the symbol turns back on and the gps has to find my location all over again.
Hence I come to the conclusion that the gps is not 'always on' when you don't need or (given you don't have any dodgy apps)
Then I could turn off googles location sharing thing, because if I am correct you need that on if you want to use location services without gps?
SGS2 uses sirfstar IV
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This is a modern GPS chip, it don't think it uses much battery. I've always GPS on and I've no battery issues. And I agree that it seems that the chip is set to some kind of standby when not in use so turning off the GPS in the settings (or notfication pull down) seems more like a privacy thing than power related.
Thanks for confirming. Will now try leaving gps on and location services off and see what happens. sometimes gps on its own takes a few extra seconds to locate you...might be annoying with certain apps
If you refuse location sharing you will not be able to use WIFI positioning service, but can still use cell tower positioning if your GPS is off. Personally I never use WPS since WIFI use a whole lot of power so I always keep it off. There are situations where it's useful (i.e. inside downtown can't get a GPS signal), so you can decide if you want it or not.
I usually keep my GPS off too, since when I open maps I just want to look at map, I don't need to know my exact location (and use the extra power).
My Galaxy S2 GPS sucks the battery life when I keep it on. My partner keeps his Galaxy S2 GPS on and the icon only comes on when something like Maps loads but immediatly goes away when you you exit Maps. Mine seems to stay on all the time and I can't see any obvious process running all of the time (except Maps). I monitor the battery usage with a tool and GPS is certainly running my battery down far quicker than if I turn it off.
Anyone else experiencing the same?
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My partner keeps his Galaxy S2 GPS on and the icon only comes on when something like Maps loads but immediatly goes away when you you exit Maps. Mine seems to stay on all the time and I can't see any obvious process running all of the time
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I have the GPS setting turned on all the time, but my GPS only really turns on when I open an app that uses GPS, like Maps or Facebook. Just like your partner.
I actually want to keep it on all the time... like yours
Can you send me your /etc/gps.conf and /etc/sirfgps.conf ?
I'm not sure if that's what control this behaviour.
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I have the GPS setting turned on all the time, but my GPS only really turns on when I open an app that uses GPS, like Maps or Facebook. Just like your partner.
I actually want to keep it on all the time... like yours
Can you send me your /etc/gps.conf and /etc/sirfgps.conf ?
I'm not sure if that's what control this behaviour.
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I only had the gps.conf, not the sirfgps.conf file. Attached here.
I have to turn on GPS only when I need it for something and turn it off, otherwise it clearly drains my battery, in pretty quick fashion.
I had to rename it gps.txt to upload it.
Keeping GPS on is not draining your battery, because its realy turning on, only on application requests. Battery drain may come from some buggy app, which not close it GPS connection. You can easily see this by your GPS indicator. No indicator - no app using GPS atm - no battery drain, flashing indicator - GPS trying to lock ur position, indicator on - GPS is used and got lock on sattelites.
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its realy turning on, only on application requests
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Is there a way to keep GPS always on, independent of an application request?
I want to control it on/off manually
I leave GPS on all the time. Only works when apps request / need it. No battery life issues for me.
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Hey guys, I don;t really use GPS on my Galaxy Player 4'', but I have notices that it will all the sudden display the GPS icon in the notification area even when it is off. I have disabled GPS and the "Use wireless networks" option, but the icon will appear at least once a day and won't disappear until I reboot the device. It just keeps blinking over and over until I reboot the device.
I have noticed it drains my battery way to quick when that icon appears (uses about 10% when the deviced is locked), which is crazy because it uses about (2%) battery power when it is locked during the night and the player does not shows that GPS icon in the notification area. I have killed pretty much every single application I have been able to kill to find out what app is trying to use GPS, but the icon won't go away no matter what process I kill. I use juicedefender and it has really improve my battery life, but when that icon appears, my device still will waste about 10% battery power even when it is locked with no apps running. Cannot explained why this is happening.
Has any of you had this problem?
Thank you
Try reseting to factory default, my batttery life on galaxy 4.0 is incredible.
I've had the same problem on my 5.0. I figured out it was an app that was constantly trying to get a gps signal. Simply going into the app and the exiting out seems to solve it however. It still happens but going into the app and exiting out helps. I would try to figure out which app is constantly trying to connect and if you don't use it very frequently uninstall it.
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I've had the same problem on my 5.0. I figured out it was an app that was constantly trying to get a gps signal. Simply going into the app and the exiting out seems to solve it however. It still happens but going into the app and exiting out helps. I would try to figure out which app is constantly trying to connect and if you don't use it very frequently uninstall it.
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Difficult to pinpoint this app.
Do anybody know any way to log what app is using (or trying to use) GPS?
I noticed this happening today. I have my notification bar hidden, so not sure how often this happens. I could make it go away by turning on GPS and GPS Test, then back off. I checked for apps that might be trying to find a location in running services, killed a couple "maybes", but the icon kept blinking. Only app I installed today was Simple Calendar Widget, but didn't see anything in it's options that would be pinging location...
I have Power Tudor that shows how much juice apps are using while you monitor them, the only app there that looked like it could be was something like "system_1025" or something like that.... nothing I could find to stop it.
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I've had the same problem on my 5.0. I figured out it was an app that was constantly trying to get a gps signal. Simply going into the app and the exiting out seems to solve it however. It still happens but going into the app and exiting out helps. I would try to figure out which app is constantly trying to connect and if you don't use it very frequently uninstall it.
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I noticed this happening today. I have my notification bar hidden, so not sure how often this happens. I could make it go away by turning on GPS and GPS Test, then back off. I checked for apps that might be trying to find a location in running services, killed a couple "maybes", but the icon kept blinking. Only app I installed today was Simple Calendar Widget, but didn't see anything in it's options that would be pinging location...
I have Power Tudor that shows how much juice apps are using while you monitor them, the only app there that looked like it could be was something like "system_1025" or something like that.... nothing I could find to stop it.
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Also use Simple Calendar Widget, but I don't think it's the reason.
Did you use Samsung Dive recently? I did, in order to test the ring, lock and location service provided from within Dive. The service running on device tries to establish a GPS connection even if GPS is disabled. I didn't make a location trace, only a simple location test.
After reboot GPS icon do not show up any more ...
Looks like Google Latitude might be the culprit. Try opening it and signing out of that service. Also go into "Settings" --> "Location and security" and uncheck "Use Sensor Aiding". Once I turned those off the GPS Notification went away.
What does sensor aiding do anyway? Sure doesn't help the Compass!
I had the same issue with my HTC ONE M8 I did the same process as you. Went into my settings found my battery usage and saw what was draining my battery. It was groupon. So I force stopped the app and the GPS notification went away.
So I understand that the GPS icon is always going to be on in ICS (super useful design), but i've noticed this morning that mine is also constantly in the transmitting state, ie: (+) ) ) ). I can't figure out why, since I don't have any apps that should be using GPS on right now. It didn't start off this way, and I haven't installed anything.
I'm just concerned that it's draining battery.
I've got my GPS enabled all the time, but the icon only shows up when it's actively in use. might be a deeper problem.
Check Facebook and any weather Widgets you gave set to use current location.
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Nope. already had location disabled on those.
its because you have location services enabled. Once you turn all of those off it will no longer broadcast
Right, sort of. On every other phone I've seen, just having them enabled but not currently used results in just the GPS (location icon), which looks like a crosshair: (+), and then if something, like a navigation program or facebook is using your location service, it turns into (+) ) ) ) --crosshair with waves coming out of it.
Mine's always in the latter state, even when I go to task manager and make sure there's nothing that SHOULD be using it ...
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Right, sort of. On every other phone I've seen, just having them enabled but not currently used results in just the GPS (location icon), which looks like a crosshair: (+), and then if something, like a navigation program or facebook is using your location service, it turns into (+) ) ) ) --crosshair with waves coming out of it.
Mine's always in the latter state, even when I go to task manager and make sure there's nothing that SHOULD be using it ...
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On the SGS3 as well as the SGS2, the crosshair icon was only on if GPS was active (i.e. navigation was on or Facebook or something else actively using the GPS) I ALWAYS had mine enabled, so that when I needed it active, I would not need to perform an unnecessary step. Sounds to me like you have either an app that is causing it to remain active all the time, or there is something wrong with your phone.
I have the same issue, it shows that the GPS is constantly in use (not just the E911 service). Any thoughts on why that is?
Are you on Verizon?
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Are you on Verizon?
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yes I'm on verizion. It goes away when i turn off location services, but I was wondering if i'll lose battery if those services are on
What's the difference between having location services on or off? I know this might be a dumb question, but the little compass icon seems to always be in the notification bar on my DNA. I can't remember if it was always like that or if it only started after downloading Tasker last week. I tried uninstalling Tasker, but it's still there all the time. I know I can turn it off in settings, but should I? Do I need Verizon, Standalone, and Google location services?
Also- lately Maps has been showing up at the top of the list for battery usage. Every day it shows like 60-70% usage with the next closest in the teens. I haven't used maps a lot, and it hasn't really seemed to affect battery life, but I'm wondering if this is related to location services. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks!
For me personally, when I left Verizon Location Services on my battery drained extremely fast and the little location services icon showed that it was active (three lines coming off the right side). When I turned Verizon services off and disabled location updating in Maps my battery increased enormously and the icon no longer showed activity constantly.
I now leave only Google location services on and manually turn on GPS when I need it. No issues since.
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For me personally, when I left Verizon Location Services on my battery drained extremely fast and the little location services icon showed that it was active (three lines coming off the right side). When I turned Verizon services off and disabled location updating in Maps my battery increased enormously and the icon no longer showed activity constantly.
I now leave only Google location services on and manually turn on GPS when I need it. No issues since.
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My battery actually hasn't been draining all that fast, it just seems to show that "maps" uses 60-70% of the battery even in a day where I don't open the application once. I leave gps on but as others have mentioned the phone only uses it when it needs to (evidenced by the satellite icon in the notification bar). I have had gps on since I got the phone but in the first few weeks maps showed as using more like 5-10% of the battery. Can anyone explain what I lose by turning off each of Verizon, Google and Standalone location services?
Standalone is for actual GPS navigation I believe. Where as Google location service is used for getting location for weather and whatnot. I leave Google on all the time and only use standalone for navigation. But I may be completely wrong lol
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Standalone is for actual GPS navigation I believe. Where as Google location service is used for getting location for weather and whatnot. I leave Google on all the time and only use standalone for navigation. But I may be completely wrong lol
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Nope, you're correct.
I had issues with the weather widget showing incorrect location if Verizon Services is enabled. I only use Google services and enable stand alone for navigation use.
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My battery actually hasn't been draining all that fast, it just seems to show that "maps" uses 60-70% of the battery even in a day where I don't open the application once. I leave gps on but as others have mentioned the phone only uses it when it needs to (evidenced by the satellite icon in the notification bar). I have had gps on since I got the phone but in the first few weeks maps showed as using more like 5-10% of the battery. Can anyone explain what I lose by turning off each of Verizon, Google and Standalone location services?
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I figured it out... leaving NFC enabled all the time for some reason shows up as Maps usage in battery life. I turned NFC off, and the next day Maps was back down to around 5%.
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I figured it out... leaving NFC enabled all the time for some reason shows up as Maps usage in battery life. I turned NFC off, and the next day Maps was back down to around 5%.
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qwertpiratej said:
My battery actually hasn't been draining all that fast, it just seems to show that "maps" uses 60-70% of the battery even in a day where I don't open the application once. I leave gps on but as others have mentioned the phone only uses it when it needs to (evidenced by the satellite icon in the notification bar). I have had gps on since I got the phone but in the first few weeks maps showed as using more like 5-10% of the battery. Can anyone explain what I lose by turning off each of Verizon, Google and Standalone location services?
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I do not use NFC at all, It has been disabled since day 1. I have noticed my MAPS taking up 40-50% of the battery and I never use it. The only thing I enable is googles location services. and when I do use maps, I turn GPS on manually and then off when finished.
My FIX:
When I opened up MAPS, I went into settings > location settings and set location reporting to do not update your location.
This knocked MAPS off my battery usage list
Anyone else having problems with Maps and battery usage? All location services turned off, haven't even opened maps, and it is at the top of my baytery usage, saying GPS is constantly running in background when all location setting are off. Uninstalled and reinstalled to no avail. I've been getting fantastic battery life but still not sure why this is happening. Suggestions?
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gramenz said:
Anyone else having problems with Maps and battery usage? All location services turned off, haven't even opened maps, and it is at the top of my baytery usage, saying GPS is constantly running in background when all location setting are off. Uninstalled and reinstalled to no avail. I've been getting fantastic battery life but still not sure why this is happening. Suggestions?
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Try using app ops and set maps Keep Awake to off. Worth a try. You'd have to enable it again when you do actually use maps most likely though
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Anyone else having problems with Maps and battery usage? All location services turned off, haven't even opened maps, and it is at the top of my baytery usage, saying GPS is constantly running in background when all location setting are off. Uninstalled and reinstalled to no avail. I've been getting fantastic battery life but still not sure why this is happening. Suggestions?
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Did you ever get this figured out? I am having a similar issue with Map My Ride. I back out of the app, even force stop it, and switch location to battery saving, but map my ride will still show at the top of the list even the next day and it says the GPS has been on for several hours.