Would it be possible to create a ice cream sandwich rom for the Viewsonic G tablet?
I dont think they have released source code, let alone a phone with the OS yet...
Quickly, I'll hold them off while you go hide!
yashmack said:
I dont think they have released source code, let alone a phone with the OS yet...
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try again.. Galaxy Nexus will have ics
They said tonight that the sdk will be released today
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Aaaaaaaand the SDK is out.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html
Thus this is a valid question which I was going to ask myself
Its not a valid question yet. Once the source is released I hope we can see a stable ics room that's better than the hacked together honeycomb we have
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drx69 said:
try again.. Galaxy Nexus will have ics
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I know this but the phone has only been announced, it hasnt been released into the wild yet, no one has one in their hands yet
well, except maybe a few reviewers here and there
pretty sure it wont hit shelves or stores for a few more weeks
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muerteman said:
Its not a valid question yet. Once the source is released I hope we can see a stable ics room that's better than the hacked together honeycomb we have
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Im not too sure if that will happen, from what im reading the devices that will support ICS are going to be gingerbread devices
If there isnt a gingerbread ROM/kernel it probably wont support ICS
at best it will be as stable as the most stable gingerbread ROM... so not too bad
Im wondering if it will work with the honeycomb kernel the devs are creating from scratch
Theoretically the tablet has the specs to run ICS but its a matter of Google making the source code open source. If it was anything like HC I think we're gonna be out of luck.
My understanding is that Google never intended to make Honeycomb open source in the hopes of avoiding people attempting to put HC on their phones. ICS should be open source, and Google has already stated several times from what i have seen that they intend to make the codes public. I don't see why we wouldn't have a decent ICS rom out in the next month or two.
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At the very least we should probably see a CyanogenMod version, since its an officially adopted Tablet. I'm looking forward to it.
I doubt it. We don't have an official honeycomb rom so I don't see ics being supported at all on gtab... I truly believe development for our gtab is officially dead.
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I doubt it. We don't have an official honeycomb rom so I don't see ics being supported at all on gtab... I truly believe development for our gtab is officially dead.
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Well, considering that HC was never officially released as open source, I don't know why you would expect a full-featured ROM when the best that anyone could do was essentially a modified bootleg of an existing tablet's firmware. There a TON of G-Tablets out there thanks to the Woot sales, so I think it would be silly to assume that just because development has hit a lull for the last few months that it is totally dead. Give it a few months, and I bet we will see a good ICS ROM made available for our G-Tablets.
I highly doubt that the g-tablet is dead. I myself and one of my friends imported one of these just to get our hands on it.
It will only be dead if people believe that we don't want firmware for it. There is plenty people out there that are looking forward to newer firmare, we just quietly wait patiently for the master coders to do their excellent work.
TBH, I can't thank everyone here enough for the hours they put in to their hobbies. Greatly appreciated.
Google has officially stated that they WILL be releasing the source to Ice Cream Sandwich, so it's VERY likely that there eventually be multiple ICS ROMs (including Cyanogenmod) for the G Tablet.
It's out
I just read that Google has released the source code....
ICS Code-Open Source
will we be seeing an ICS Rom for our Viewsonic G-tab now that the source code was released??
rmejia25 said:
will we be seeing an ICS Rom for our Viewsonic G-tab now that the source code was released??
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This tablet is on life support. ROM development is a small fraction of what it used to be a year ago. Updates are scarce. Be grateful for the value we got out of it over the past year.
The time to move on is fast approaching... and my eye is on the Asus Transformer Prime.
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This tablet is on life support. ROM development is a small fraction of what it used to be a year ago. Updates are scarce. Be grateful for the value we got out of it over the past year.
The time to move on is fast approaching... and my eye is on the Asus Transformer Prime.
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Part of that is to blame on no Honeycomb source, why would devs waste time reverse engineering when they could wait for ICS? Someone will make an ICS ROM, the lull has been to blame on their actually being NOTHING to do on this device with no Honeycomb source.
Now if those Nvidia drivers end up being a pain, it might be another story.
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Part of that is to blame on no Honeycomb source, why would devs waste time reverse engineering when they could wait for ICS? Someone will make an ICS ROM, the lull has been to blame on their actually being NOTHING to do on this device with no Honeycomb source.
Now if those Nvidia drivers end up being a pain, it might be another story.
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You can blame the lack of source code, I think I'll stick with blaming Viewsonic for not pushing at all to get drivers or any type of updates to us on this device. Without Viewsonic or Nvidia providing drivers we're going to be in for a rough ride.
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Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I looked and searched many times and has not found any details.
I have ready countless forums and websites saying that it is not possible to port over a honeycomb rom to the TouchPad because Google has not released the source code. I owned a Viewsonic G-Tablet and I had flashed a Honeycomb Rom and it was pretty stable. Even the Nook Color has a Honeycomb port. Why does the G-Tablet and the Nook Color have the ability to run honeycomb, but not the Touchpad.
Just a question and maybe some of the devs can look into this and maybe succefully port honeycomb onto the TouchPad!
We are waiting on you to port it......thanks!
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We are waiting on you to port it......thanks!
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I am not any type of dev. Hence this question I posted.
Just wait a little while for Ice Cream Sandwich, which will be much better than Honeycomb.
It's not that it's impossible to. It's that it's a pain, it tends to be broken, and with ICS around the corner, there is no reason to waste the effort.
I had a nook color it didnt run honeycomb it ran the sdk emulator and it was not good
Dont worry thr devs who are wotking on cm7 are nit tryung to get one over on u by using gingerbread
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I had a nook color it didnt run honeycomb it ran the sdk emulator and it was not good
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This. The Honeycomb roms for the Nook and other tablets are hacked together from the SDK, so they're not optimized for the device they're running on. Since there's no source, issues cant be (comparably) easily fixed. And with that in mind, you need a good working Android base which doesnt yet exist for the touchpad since CM is (rightfully) withholding source due to its alpha status.
Even if we did have CM source, the ICS source release is just around the corner. There's no point in doing it since the work wouldnt translate and just be wasted.
Wait for the ICS source to drop if you want ICS.
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Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I looked and searched many times and has not found any details.
I have ready countless forums and websites saying that it is not possible to port over a honeycomb rom to the TouchPad because Google has not released the source code. I owned a Viewsonic G-Tablet and I had flashed a Honeycomb Rom and it was pretty stable. Even the Nook Color has a Honeycomb port. Why does the G-Tablet and the Nook Color have the ability to run honeycomb, but not the Touchpad.
Just a question and maybe some of the devs can look into this and maybe succefully port honeycomb onto the TouchPad!
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All Honeycomb ports are hacks because Google has never released the full source for it.
The Touchpad _could_ run Honeycomb, but as the only development for it is CM7, which is gingerbread based currently, that's what you get.
If you can find some people who want to sink the time into hacking Honeycomb onto it, then you could have it, but I doubt anyone is going to want to bother given that ICS source is due in the next couple of months and with any luck we'll get a CM8 port instead of a half-assed Honeycomb.
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If you can find some people who want to sink the time into hacking Honeycomb onto it, then you could have it, but I doubt anyone is going to want to bother given that ICS source is due in the next couple of months and with any luck we'll get a CM8 port instead of a half-assed Honeycomb.
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CM9 you mean;-) CM8 has been kept open for Honeycomb specifically, so the next CM will be CM9 I read somewhere.
I think HD2 is able to boot Honeycomb too, but it never got stable.
http://www.ixplora.com/wp-content/2011/03/hd2-honeycomb-595x306.jpg
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CM9 you mean;-) CM8 has been kept open for Honeycomb specifically, so the next CM will be CM9 I read somewhere.
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Really? Seems odd given that it's closed-source, but fair enough
The more you know!
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I am not any type of dev. Hence this question I posted.
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Yeah I think he was pointing out the fact that if you want it go make it. I have to say though seriously? Just in the last week did we go from pretty much no Android to pretty dang functional gingerbread... And already asking why don't we/why doesn't someone port honeycomb... Really? Seems a little unappreciative but maybe that's just me...
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Got a link that the next version will be CM9?
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I saw on the Android BBQ video with the Cyanogen team mentioned CM9 would be next because of going to ICS next. Don't have a link but is on xda tv somewhere
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First, the nook and g-tablet ARE Android devices to being with.
Second, it took some time to get the above devices to "run" Honeycomb.
Third, neither is completely functional with Honeycomb.
Lastly, if you really really want Android your best is probably to get an Android device. I also have a g-tablet and with custom ROM that made it mostly functional, it was never 100% and issue free. I was never completely satisfied until I got an real Android device (Asus Transformer).
Being able to dual boot the Touchpad with a functional Android OS would be nice. But personally I got it to try out WebOS and have something different.
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/TF201
I think that the section for TF201 shouldn't be the same of the one for TF101. Else it will become a mess here.
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I think that the section for TF201 shouldn't be the same of the one for TF101. Else it will become a mess here.
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Agree! Maybe somebody can make a new section for the TF201?
I agree, but it seemed to be the best place for it at the time.
And I think the point is being missed, for the HD2 and my Hero, lots of other device's Kernel's are imported/exported, and since its source, theirs often lots of improvements that can be made cross device when kernel source is available...
So hes putting it here encase any of the kernel developers want to take a crack at porting it over to the TF101 or using parts/pieces/whole/cannibalize it...
either way, the TF201 needs its own section, but I myself approve of this threads importance even in the TF101 section*...
EDIT:*mainly for those oh so eager Kernel dev's who havent had a kernel source release in almost 3 months now! GO GO GO, PORT PORT PORT, CANNIBALIZE!!!
Hold on, is that a kernel for Honeycomb or ICS? if it's for ICS it should be fairly trivial* to backport it to the TF101 for a working ICS on TF101, right?
*actual level of triviality may be relative
Yes TF201 needs its own thread
But i agree with hammerfist about the kernel when the LGp500 source came out we nicked it straight away to port to the GT540 so maybe some similar could be done with this?
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Danzano said:
Yes TF201 needs its own thread
But i agree with hammerfist about the kernel when the LGp500 source came out we nicked it straight away to port to the GT540 so maybe some similar could be done with this?
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LG P500 and LG GT540 both use the same MSM7227 CPU and shared a lot of hardware, These two have a lot less common of a base, different hardware, different CPU.
Note: in my search the biggest difference apart from one running donut, and one running froyo/gingerbread. is the LCD size
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And I think the point is being missed, for the HD2 and my Hero, lots of other device's Kernel's are imported/exported, and since its source, theirs often lots of improvements that can be made cross device when kernel source is available...
So hes putting it here encase any of the kernel developers want to take a crack at porting it over to the TF101 or using parts/pieces/whole/cannibalize it...
either way, the TF201 needs its own section, but I myself approve of this threads importance even in the TF101 section*...
EDIT:*mainly for those oh so eager Kernel dev's who havent had a kernel source release in almost 3 months now! GO GO GO, PORT PORT PORT, CANNIBALIZE!!!
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Even if we port it, what pros could we get? As soon as ICS is released by Asus we will get the sources of the 3.0 kernel
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Even if we port it, what pros could we get? As soon as ICS is released by Asus we will get the sources of the 3.0 kernel
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and that should be by then end of the yuear.. says "asus".... and anyways we dont have a kernel dev right now...
Huh?
KingDavid63 said:
.... and anyways we dont have a kernel dev right now...
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What? Really? Did Blades and Netarchy quit the biz?
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What? Really? Did Blades and Netarchy quit the biz?
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AFAIK they took a breath from work, but I'm almost 99% sure Blades will come back with Clemsyn on his side
They have given us updates faster than any other Manufacturer AFAIK and give source with release I think instead of a few months latter.
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They have given us updates faster than any other Manufacturer AFAIK and give source with release I think instead of a few months latter.
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normally.. but there hasnt been a release in almost 3 months now...
@gnufabio: I know, but somehow I dont think they will release kernel source for TF101 ICS as fast (IE prior) like they have for the TF201... it seems they have REALLY started slacking off on the TF101 source release's (see comment above)... hense why I made mention...
I'm showing 10.19.2011 as the last official firmware release. I assume the last 5 weeks they have been making us some ICS no point wasting resources now for honeycomb since we are getting ICS.
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=20&s=16&m=Eee%20Pad%20Transformer%20TF101&os=32
Why hasn't this thread been moved?
Actually, that kernel source isn't ICS (ICS builds on 2.6.38, and this source is 2.6.36), but it has some new kernel configs, and an interesting flag too (it shows that the TF Prime will have 2048MB of RAM, my last info was that it's only 1024!)
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Actually, that kernel source isn't ICS (ICS builds on 2.6.38, and this source is 2.6.36), but it has some new kernel configs, and an interesting flag too (it shows that the TF Prime will have 2048MB of RAM, my last info was that it's only 1024!)
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Well everything tells you that it has 1024...
Every website and even the official asus one...
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I'm showing 10.19.2011 as the last official firmware release. I assume the last 5 weeks they have been making us some ICS no point wasting resources now for honeycomb since we are getting ICS.
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=20&s=16&m=Eee Pad Transformer TF101&os=32
Why hasn't this thread been moved?
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Your looking at the FRIMWARE... aka the ROM itself... NOT the SOURCE code! AND to that fact, its like 2-3 version off from release already! So Firmware isnt even up-to-date!!!
Latest Source: 8-15-2011... like i said... months since kernel source release... maybe read whole thing next time? then answer?
And, probably hasnt been moved because its NOT ONLY for the TF201 but has merit and reason to exist in the TF101 section... Want an example? go to the HD2 section for android dev and count how many OTHER device's Kernel source release's there are there... NO REASON to move it given its possible use in the TF101
Closing as this isn't relevant to the TF 101
ASUS Source Code And User Manual for Transformer Prime
the official source code and user manual for the Transformer Prime are available at http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201/#download
Source code is version 8.8.3.23, as of 2011.11.24
I am wondering given that this device just got honeycomb.. is there any chance of it getting ICS?
Part of the reason I'm wondering is because I am getting my flyer sometime between the 10th and the 17th coming up according to the "estimated delivery date" when I hit buy.
I have had ICS on my captivate before I ever even got to play with Honeycomb.. my mom got the transformer yesterday.. and there are a few minor quirks with honeycomb that I really don't like.. major example being if you pull up the task manager in ICS you can remove windows and close out the programs.. Honeycomb will pull up windows that aren't open.. and it gets cluttered fast if your done with something and seeing 5 or more windows you don't want open, but can't get rid of..
no sign of ICS anytime soon but maybe if kernel source is released and CM9 development someone will port it here. In regards to the task management, yes it can get cluttered but it is better than not having it at all like gingerbread
I'm hoping they'll have the decency to update us or at least release the source code required...
IANAL, but I believe HTC legally has to release the kernel source for anything it releases. If they never release ICS, we may never get a kernel for ICS.
Honeycomb kernel might work, but I'm not sure if HTC is legally required to release honeycomb kernel source.
As far as I am aware, they did/may have use some proprietary software which would screw up our porting efforts.
So it becomes an issue of "will they" and that is what I am wondering.
Personally I don't think we will ever see ICS on the Flyer. Here are my reasons:
1. Not a lot of Flyers were sold so there is not a large user base. Thus, there is not much developer interest.
2. Sense - From what I understand from what developers have said, the kernels that HTC makes are made to work with Sense and will not work with an AOSP build.
These two things combine to make bringing ICS to the Flyer difficult and there is no one around who appears willing to do it.
I really hope that I am wrong about this but I don't think that I am.
Someone want to educate a noob?
How is it that several other devices (including HTC ones, like the Sensation) are getting ICS ports, but the Flyer/View can't? I mean, it seems unlikely that HTC released AOSP kernel sources for other devices, and even if they did, they're certainly not ICS kernels. Why is it so important for us to have an AOSP kernel (and an ICS one, at that) from HTC in order to get CM on the Flyer/View?
Oh, and then there's devices that didn't even have Android like the TouchPad, and devices that don't have their source code released, like the Kindle Fire.
I'm definitely not a developer, so I'm sure there's something I'm missing...I'm just trying to figure out what it is.
I'm repeating what developers told me or wrote here. I don't know if it is right or wrong.
I think the bottom line is that it is easier to have an AOSP kernel.
I think you can build your own kernel but that is much more work and maybe a hard thing to do.
All of the custom ROMs that we have seen for the Flyer are just modified HTC ROMs that come with certain software preinstalled or other kinds of enhancements.
More popular devices have much more developer interest. I would imagine that some less popular device owners get lucky because some developer also owns the device and is willing to spend the time.
So far, one developer said he would try to bring ICS to Flyer. He tried but gave up because of kernel issues. I don't get the impression that he did too much but at least he gave it a go. No other developer has said anything one way or the other.
I'm not holding my breath..
but, I definitely won't give up hope just yet..
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
DigitalMD said:
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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Makes sense to me.
Shame this device hasn't received more attention.
DigitalMD said:
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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This is correct and likely the only way we see ICS in a timely manner.
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He's been debunked several times.
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So I guess the big question as far as an official update goes.. is how much effort would HTC have to put out in order to do the upgrade...
And will it be worth it for them to do so..
I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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Would it be possible to take the pen code from honeycomb and implement it in CM9?
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I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I'd be content with an AOSP rom now, with the pen worked in later.
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We will see... if any devs are willing, I am sure as heck willing to help and take a crack at it myself..
You can't do AOSP without HTC's help for the kernel and drivers and since HTC only does sense kernels I'm thinking that's not going to happen. I still think a port of an HTC ICS ROM from another device is the most likely path, unless HTC is feeling exceptionally benevolent toward the Flyer. Perhaps the Jetstream tablet will get ICS and that can be ported...
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Anyone going to work on ROMs?
Butter seems like it is going to be awesome!
Im interested in the Voice search and Google Now.
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Im interested in the Voice search and Google Now.
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Totally agree!
Markdental said:
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Anyone going to work on ROMs?
Butter seems like it is going to be awesome!
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SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
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SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
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We had gingerbread ROMs based off the SDK on the Incredible..
What about the PDK, thought I saw something about that being released on the I/O?
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It does indeed help with rom development. Just not as easy.
I think it might help get it quicker too because the European version probably will get jelly bean quicker...
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
But, yes, SDK can be used to develop ROMs, we just need to get a kernel developer to figure those out and make sure they are compatible. It likely won't happen until the OTA's hit in mid-July but the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the OTA bodes well for us I think...
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
But, yes, SDK can be used to develop ROMs, we just need to get a kernel developer to figure those out and make sure they are compatible. It likely won't happen until the OTA's hit in mid-July but the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the OTA bodes well for us I think...
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The Galaxy Nexus does not have to rely on Samsung to push out updates though, and it is supposed to get updates first.
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
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PDK as explained is the development kit for Physical Hardware, in other words for the Manufacturers. If developers that makes ROMs can get their hands on this one, then it would make it ALOT easier for them to create the ROMs. And the other nice thing they said is that the PDK was to be available for the Hardware Manufacturers 3-4 months before release, which should decrease the amount of time it takes for the manufacturers to release the next OS version. The problem is to try to get this from Google if you are not a hardware manufacturer.
And then there is still the issue with the drivers which is what the manufacturers sits on.
I know it doesn't help us get updates on the GS3 just bec the GN gets one, but having the GN getting the OTA can help us with ROM development esp if we have the kernels to work with.
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PDK as explained is the development kit for Physical Hardware, in other words for the Manufacturers. If developers that makes ROMs can get their hands on this one, then it would make it ALOT easier for them to create the ROMs. And the other nice thing they said is that the PDK was to be available for the Hardware Manufacturers 3-4 months before release, which should decrease the amount of time it takes for the manufacturers to release the next OS version. The problem is to try to get this from Google if you are not a hardware manufacturer.
And then there is still the issue with the drivers which is what the manufacturers sits on.
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It would seem then that Samsung should have been working on Jelly Bean for quite some time. What are the chances they release JB on the GS3 in the next 2 months if they have had 3-4 months to work on it?
They had ICS since at the latest last October and here it is June before they are releasing ICS for GS2. Seems the lead time is ~8 months. So if they had PDK 4 months ago and it takes them 8 months, then we should see JB in October/November. Unless the PDK somehow makes it easier to develop the ROM...
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Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
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There are certainly some great features in there, but I think the "haven't been this excited about an OS yet" statement might be a little much. I'd say the milestone releases, 4.0 and 2.0 were certainly much more exciting than this. If it was intended to be the most exciting update yet, it would've had a version number to reflect that. Just saying.
Having said that... I'm pretty excited too, but it'll likely take Sammy a little while to push an official update if you're like me and don't root right away.
I want to see Project Butter and the new notifications in action! :laugh:
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I know it doesn't help us get updates on the GS3 just bec the GN gets one, but having the GN getting the OTA can help us with ROM development esp if we have the kernels to work with.
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Kernels for a completely different SoC..?
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It would seem then that Samsung should have been working on Jelly Bean for quite some time. What are the chances they release JB on the GS3 in the next 2 months if they have had 3-4 months to work on it?
They had ICS since at the latest last October and here it is June before they are releasing ICS for GS2. Seems the lead time is ~8 months. So if they had PDK 4 months ago and it takes them 8 months, then we should see JB in October/November. Unless the PDK somehow makes it easier to develop the ROM...
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I doubt Samsung has had the Jellybean PDK for four months already. Jellybean probably hasn't been finalized for that long.
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My understanding was that google tried the early release this time around by giving it to the manufacturers two weeks before I/O. It is for the future releases that it was going to be 3-4 months.
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demarcmj said:
There are certainly some great features in there, but I think the "haven't been this excited about an OS yet" statement might be a little much. I'd say the milestone releases, 4.0 and 2.0 were certainly much more exciting than this.
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Depends. The VSync governor and CPU prespread is rather a quantum leap. Yes, it's not massively exceeding the introduction of the 2.2 Dalvik JIT but it's going to push Android along and, likely, past the Cupertino Competition.
Not to mention "Butter" was the coolest code name, yet. Chet (who's also doing the "For Butter or for Worse" session tomorrow, gave a good impromptu hallway intro to some of us, and it's exciting. VERY exciting.
I flashed the toro version of the Jelly Bean SDK port to my Nexus and holy hell its so smooth. Much smoother than my GSIII. I can't begin to think how smooth this device will be especially since the screen is much more sensitive and responsive than my Nexus. 4.1 is what 4.0 should have been. The Google Now feature provided INSTANT response with no lag. Its almost like talking to a person. Im really impressed with jelly bean and hope Samsung provides timely updates.
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Im really impressed with jelly bean and hope Samsung provides timely updates.
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Considering Samsung subscribes to the "want to upgrade your OS, upgrade the phone" philosophy, I am not sure we'll see JB on the S3 any time soon. I'd presume we'll see an AOSP Rom soon-ish, though, given the number of S3 owners at Google I/O that just stared and lusted...
Hi Kazuni et al, are you developing a non-Samsung themed JB ROM for the I9305? Something like the many CM10/ParanoidAndroid ROMs that are available for the I9300? Would be great to have a "purer" ROM for this new flagship....less of the Samsung customization
This has been discussed several times before but the I9305/I9300 share most of the same components, less the radio correct? If so, would the I9300 ROMs work if they're used w/ a 9305 radio instead? So it would be an easier way to port 9300-developed ROMs over?
Would love to see this, esp if it's built on the new 4.1.2!
There are other differences as well like a different partition layout, but I guess that they might partially work if configured with a compatible layout, would likely have no sound or modem functionality without proper work, a Rom compiled for this model would be better.
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I have asked xplodwild in the cm10 thread uf any if team hacksung are able time work on a port. We can but hope!!!
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I have asked xplodwild in the cm10 thread uf any if team hacksung are able time work on a port. We can but hope!!!
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I have my fingers crossed. After putting CM10 on a relatives SG3 I want in on the action bad.
I intend to jump in and have a go at CM10 for the i9305 when I receive mine this week. It will be my first attempt at a complete ROM so don't hold your breath or anything.
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I intend to jump in and have a go at CM10 for the i9305 when I receive mine this week. It will be my first attempt at a complete ROM so don't hold your breath or anything.
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:good: You go champ! Let us know how you progress!
Man I hope there is a CM10 rom soon. I want to get started on rooting, I am an iOS refugeee!!! All im doing is watching people on youtube with CM10/Paranoid Android and being jealous. =(
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I intend to jump in and have a go at CM10 for the i9305 when I receive mine this week. It will be my first attempt at a complete ROM so don't hold your breath or anything.
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Oh I will be holding my breath!
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Man I hope there is a CM10 rom soon. I want to get started on rooting, I am an iOS refugeee!!! All im doing is watching people on youtube with CM10/Paranoid Android and being jealous. =(
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Don't get me wrong, but didn't you notice the big ****storm about samsung being developer unfriendly and the exynos platform being the hell on earth?
Some of our guys are very sick of samsung and are not going to touch any of the new samsung devices.
Not saying that nobody will port it, but i recommend you to sell this device as fast as possible and get a new upcoming nexus device if you really wanna run AOSP based roms.
If you like laggy and buggy AOSP roms and especially waiting for round about 6 months to get a new android version, stay on what you're currently owning.
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Don't get me wrong, but didn't you notice the big ****storm about samsung being developer unfriendly and the exynos platform being the hell on earth?
Some of our guys are very sick of samsung and are not going to touch any of the new samsung devices.
Not saying that nobody will port it, but i recommend you to sell this device as fast as possible and get a new upcoming nexus device if you really wanna run AOSP based roms.
If you like laggy and buggy AOSP roms and especially waiting for round about 6 months to get a new android version, stay on what you're currently owning.
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I didn't really expect you to add something positive to this topic.!. I really hope that all of us that just got the I9503 didn't buy it for only running AOSP based roms. If that was the case I would buy the upcoming LG nexus that's NOT the case for me. And SamsungExynos posted a tweet today "full availability of integrated source code for #Exynos 4 family of processors on OrigenBoard by the end of 2012"
I wonder what will happen to all these devs that left the GS3 because of samsung not releasing the Source. And then now it looks like they will b releasing something soon, Are you all going to come back? Or just let new and upcoming devs take over. I Feel that with all sources released on this device with the Quad Core and 2gb Ram DAMMMM how smoooth will a proper built CM10 run. And to be honest My device is very smooth as it is. I am not dying for CM10 i actually like the new touchwiz, I like features and animations. And with all of that , this is still hell smooth in my opinion. Either way To me its a win win, if they release the source GREAT if not oh well still very good!!... But i do believe they will release it.
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I wonder what will happen to all these devs that left the GS3 because of samsung not releasing the Source. And then now it looks like they will b releasing something soon, Are you all going to come back? Or just let new and upcoming devs take over. I Feel that with all sources released on this device with the Quad Core and 2gb Ram DAMMMM how smoooth will a proper built CM10 run. And to be honest My device is very smooth as it is. I am not dying for CM10 i actually like the new touchwiz, I like features and animations. And with all of that , this is still hell smooth in my opinion. Either way To me its a win win, if they release the source GREAT if not oh well still very good!!... But i do believe they will release it.
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-----> "for OrigenBoard" <-----
It's a exynos development board and has not much to do with samsung smartphones.
The ICS code was broken, outdated and mostly unusable on phones.
The same code is now available again.
I really don't expect a wonder.
From what andreilux has seen and stated below it does not seem like the old stuff and samsung continue to update. Last update was done earlier today here is what andreilux said in the exynos petition page in the i9300:
(They released the 5250 development board and site together with a 800 page user's manual, something which we didn't have before for any SoC. I'll have to see what they uploaded on the Git as it's quite a lot.
Edit: from what I can see at first glance they have 4.1.1 Jellybean sources up there and apparently the newest stuff.
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So it seems samsung is pulling up there sox and getting **** done. Maybe christmas came early i also have news from a great dev getting our devic. (I9305) but must not say who at this point
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From what andreilux has seen and stated below it does not seem like the old stuff and samsung continue to update. Last update was done earlier today here is what andreilux said in the exynos petition page in the i9300:
(They released the 5250 development board and site together with a 800 page user's manual, something which we didn't have before for any SoC. I'll have to see what they uploaded on the Git as it's quite a lot.
Edit: from what I can see at first glance they have 4.1.1 Jellybean sources up there and apparently the newest stuff.
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So it seems samsung is pulling up there sox and getting **** done. Maybe christmas came early i also have news from a great dev getting our devic. (I9305) but must not say who at this point
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Will this dev build ROMs or only Kernels?
All i want for my nice i9305 is a real good dev
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Will this dev build ROMs or only Kernels?
All i want for my nice i9305 is a real good dev
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kernel is the most important thing here atm...but a good cm or aosp were pretty hell for this phone !
i heard miui will release a jb version for i9300 soon so this porting would be easy
Yes he does. But not saying anything more for now
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Omfg sorry for spam but the dev will build really ROMs?
Sorry Spaming here but a CM10 Rom for my I9305 would be realy Great.
+1 to non-Samsung-based JB rom like CM10, PA or PACman's mix of all three I'm picking up my i9305 this weekend (South Africa) and really hope that some of the big dev's take to this handset.. number of roms at current is dis-heartening :crying: :crying:
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-----> "for OrigenBoard" <-----
It's a exynos development board and has not much to do with samsung smartphones.
The ICS code was broken, outdated and mostly unusable on phones.
The same code is now available again.
I really don't expect a wonder.
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Hi codeworkx.. this is a copy of a post I made on another i9305 thread, it seems more relevant here tho..
Samsung have released the source code for the i9305.. here and I noticed it's also on Github here does this mean there's a chance of more dev's buying into this device for custom rom and kernel devving
defibitely deserves a plus one on this. cm10 porterssss please i would love to experience a proper stock jb theme
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