3d without sense??? - HTC EVO 3D

Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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ognimnella said:
Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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Short answer: I doubt it. I'm also skeptical any non HTC sense ROM will receive 3D support. The 3D support is fairly complicated, especially given all the source code is closed. In order to get access to any of it, it will require a developer to reverse engineer HTC's work.
Reverse engineering a massive function such as 3D would be a very time intensive task. Most developers probably don't have the time to dive into reversing engineering the 3D, especially when the outlook seems to be this is the only 3D device released on sprint and no future devices has been announced to support 3D.
Sorry that makes a pretty glummy picture although all my opinion and speculation I think it expresses the view points of most of the community.
If HTC were to open source their 3D code, wow, it would probably be adopted and improved very quickly by the community.
Hope that helps explain some of the issues around porting HTC 3D support to non HTC Sense ROMs!

joeykrim said:
Short answer: I doubt it. I'm also skeptical any non HTC sense ROM will receive 3D support. The 3D support is fairly complicated, especially given all the source code is closed. In order to get access to any of it, it will require a developer to reverse engineer HTC's work.
Reverse engineering a massive function such as 3D would be a very time intensive task. Most developers probably don't have the time to dive into reversing engineering the 3D, especially when the outlook seems to be this is the only 3D device released on sprint and no future devices has been announced to support 3D.
Sorry that makes a pretty glummy picture although all my opinion and speculation I think it expresses the view points of most of the community.
If HTC were to open source their 3D code, wow, it would probably be adopted and improved very quickly by the community.
Hope that helps explain some of the issues around porting HTC 3D support to non HTC Sense ROMs!
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Written perfectly,
I'm not a dev. But I think the 3d has actually slowed the development of a lot of things as a result of that unknown code,
And miui's camera barely works.. if they are having trouble with that just imagine trying to mess with 3d,
Shot from my shooter in 3D
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ognimnella said:
Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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Have you tried to use Senseless rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198099

Ok oh well. You guys should have seen me when I successfully flashed MIUI, I was like a kid I'm a candy store man (this if the first device I have ever had to support it) but then I tried to take a picture and what the hell, no 3D. I didn't buy a 3D phone to not freaking use it. Oh well though, I guess I'll just be a sense guy until (or if) HTC stops bring stingy with the 3D source. Thanks anyway dudes...
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Or try hd revolution senseless rom.... The 3d camera should work on that.

ognimnella said:
Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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Try the DarkSense Rom... I actually like Sense but I Flashed that Rom thinking it had Sense but it Didn't have the Home screen but had the other Sense stuff! So it might have the 3D Camera?

Im using WTSB Rom now, its the fastest ROM I have ever seen. I just need to learn how to flash the correct kernel on hboot 1.5
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ognimnella said:
Ok oh well. You guys should have seen me when I successfully flashed MIUI, I was like a kid I'm a candy store man (this if the first device I have ever had to support it) but then I tried to take a picture and what the hell, no 3D. I didn't buy a 3D phone to not freaking use it. Oh well though, I guess I'll just be a sense guy until (or if) HTC stops bring stingy with the 3D source. Thanks anyway dudes...
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I'm running Senseless by scrosler and the 3D camera works just fine. No problem at all. And as the name states, there is no Sense.

Petition ?
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Petititon What exactly???
maek_it_happen said:
Petition ?
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overclockxp said:
I'm running Senseless by scrosler and the 3D camera works just fine. No problem at all. And as the name states, there is no Sense.
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I can confirm this....I'm on senseless rom too and 3d camera works just fine.

another +1 for senseless, but i switched back to cleanrom myself

Senseless is still a Sense based ROM, it just has Rosie and HTC Widgets removed. OP is probably wondering about getting 3d working on actual AOSP, which won't happen for a very long time, if ever.

you can get pretty close to an AOSP experience with a Sense Rom if you are not afraid to remove apps. my wife and I are both running SteelRom 2.62, but our phones look very different. I took out almost everything made by HTC and have the barebones for Sense-only stuff to work, like the 3D camera

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you can get pretty close to an AOSP experience with a Sense Rom if you are not afraid to remove apps. my wife and I are both running SteelRom 2.62, but our phones look very different. I took out almost everything made by HTC and have the barebones for Sense-only stuff to work, like the 3D camera
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So what apps can I remove without screwing up my phone?
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Petition
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Petition +2 cause of you ,if you knew what to do or what is true , get a clue then catch a flu , forever just seems too new , me and u we just like glue
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Can I build ICS on top of a sense ROM and just play with the framework a little to make it work?
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I would think more port sense to ics
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Related

Miui camera?

How can I get camera to work on MIUI rom? Gsm
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You can't. Its still a WIP . Currently no ics rooms have camera working.
Where did he mention ice...
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prashy said:
How can I get camera to work on MIUI rom? Gsm
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ozeil10 said:
You can't. Its still a WIP . Currently no ics rooms have camera working.
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Where did he mention ice...
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As far as I'm aware, and I could be wrong, but the issue lies with the hardware containing 2 cameras for the 3D functionality as opposed to be ICS/Gingerbread related. This issue is present on any EVO 3D AOSP based ROM, but not present on any EVO 3D Sense based ROM.
The stock HTC Sense camera application which supports 3D and works with the device's cameras, is closed source and proprietary. As such, HTC has not released the source code to *officially* support their dual camera 3D functionality.
This leaves developers in a bit of a bind and forces them to either reverse the closed source stock Camera application and make changes through the reversed code or use the AOSP camera and "port" in the reversed closed source HTC code.
Both of these situations are less than ideal and the 2nd situation, porting into AOSP, takes quite a bit of work and development.
If I'm wrong and somebody/group has completed the steps of modifying/porting, hopefully somebody will post up the correct info with some links!
Hope that helps add some technical details!

Any interest in viperROM for EVO 3D GSM?

I'm just wondering if it is something that would be worth our time to bring over. I believe I would be able to use a multi-device flash setup like Team Warm did with at least 1 of their ROMs. Not having the device makes me not want to really do it, but if there is enough demand for it, I would consider it - especially if I could use the same base and push the right files for the 2 different phones since I know the CDMA base is already very solid. Please let me know your honest thoughts.
I should have asked Vin about this before posting. Oh well
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I'm just wondering if it is something that would be worth our time to bring over. I believe I would be able to use a multi-device flash setup like Team Warm did with at least 1 of their ROMs. Not having the device makes me not want to really do it, but if there is enough demand for it, I would consider it - especially if I could use the same base and push the right files for the 2 different phones since I know the CDMA base is already very solid. Please let me know your honest thoughts.
I should have asked Vin about this before posting. Oh well
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well,i for one would certainly welcome it.iam sure many other GSM fellows would love it too
Options are always good!!
Would be happy to test on GSM!
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-viperboy- said:
I believe I would be able to use a multi-device flash setup like Team Warm did with at least 1 of their Roms
I should have asked Vin about this before posting
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Can I get an eta on this kang??
Vins gonna be pissed when you get home! Just a joke
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i am interested
Honestly if the piece can live up to this huge hype I would love to have it running on my phone
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"Way to double post, there is already a thread here, noob"
[Rom] ViperRom for GSM, post if you want it!
This is how you troll, right?
Edit: something about a flamesuit...in your face!
It would be awesome. Bring it!
Please
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I would love to test new rom
i am interested too !!
Heard great things from it. Would love to see it ported over.
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I like turtles
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count me in, I d love to see a viper rom!
Absolutely....it will be great
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Viper, stop wondering and bring us the badboy asap!!!!!!
nikosblade said:
Viper, stop wondering and bring us the badboy asap!!!!!!
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Yes +1 please... Bring it on!!!
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Viper kanged this thread....
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nikosblade said:
Viper, stop wondering and bring us the badboy asap!!!!!!
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That
One of the best ROMs for CDMA EVO3D... I think we would kill for this on the GSM version.
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Isn't this the only ROM with multiport forwarding for the Evo3D?
Interested.

Will 3D camera and gallery ever work on Sense 4 rom's

As the title ask's, do you think it'll ever work?
I don't know if anyone is actively working on 3D for sense 4 but for me it's the only thing missing.
If our phones weren't 3D then we'd already have our daily rom, problem is, we do have 3D phones.
Any ideas or news about progress anywhere?
Thanks.
PS: I know MDeejay has had some success with 3D gallery and some youtube.
But i haven't heard much from the cam side of things.
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who needs the 3d feature anyway! its pointless and it sucks!!! i love my evo 3d just for the dual core and the rom great developments! other than that i would still be on evo 4G! #sense 4.0 don't 3d feature!!!
Dladz to answer your question, I personally think it's possible. Album for sure, we can port the original sense 3.6 album because It's the same android base(and then theme it like sense 4). Camera is a bit more difficult, because we want the Sense 4 Camera layout. So somebody has to rewrite the whole camera stuff for getting a 3D mode. Unfortunately people like Igor who really knew how to do it are no more in the forum. So the only hope we have is that some guys like mdeejay take their time and get the things working. But It's definitely not impossible, It's more a question of effort.
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Thanks m8, that does help.
So where did this Igor chap get off to? Can we kidnap him and make him do it lol.
That was a joke m8.
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East tuggeste
As I know there will ne a update to ICS for evo 3d soon. And ai prety sure that it will be on sense 4.0 because some leak rom out there base on same firmwave with sense 4.0 . But not 100% sure .
Other think that ics camera have mutilshot. For evo 3d because of saving on sd card so, so the speed could not be fasr like htc one x ( it save on the phone store ). So what happen with 3d mutilshot. . It must be really slow.
As my opinion, the developer can do anything on the decive,. If htc give them source. Sometime, they even do not need any help to do like the htc hd2 case. It can use dual os by tricking the device start with android in sd card. It was legend.
monkboy24 said:
who needs the 3d feature anyway! its pointless and it sucks!!! i love my evo 3d just for the dual core and the rom great developments! other than that i would still be on evo 4G! #sense 4.0 don't 3d feature!!!
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Doesn't help, didn't answer anything, your opinion is not what i asked for, this is not a discussion thread.
lionhealth said:
As I know there will ne a update to ICS for evo 3d soon. And ai prety sure that it will be on sense 4.0 because some leak rom out there base on same firmwave with sense 4.0 . But not 100% sure .
Other think that ics camera have mutilshot. For evo 3d because of saving on sd card so, so the speed could not be fasr like htc one x ( it save on the phone store ). So what happen with 3d mutilshot. . It must be really slow.
As my opinion, the developer can do anything on the decive,. If htc give them source. Sometime, they even do not need any help to do like the htc hd2 case. It can use dual os by tricking the device start with android in sd card. It was legend.
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I know there will be an update for the EVO 3D but it won't include sense 4 to my knowledge, we will only get sense 3.6, which is where the problem lies, moving 3D over to sense 4 has proven to be a bit of a problem.
As for multishot, it's a feature of the software and not really something which i think i'd use anyway.
Zoom camera has a burst feature which works just fine by the way, so if you wanted to use burst then download zoom.
Thanks.
monkboy24 said:
who needs the 3d feature anyway! its pointless and it sucks!!! i love my evo 3d just for the dual core and the rom great developments! other than that i would still be on evo 4G! #sense 4.0 don't 3d feature!!!
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3D movies are good.
I read somewhere, that HTC will not public surce codes for camera.
That's maybe the biggest problem...
Well I know Agrabren has a working camera on his personal build of Cm9. This will eventually work it's way into Digital High's MIUI port. But it still has a way to go and he is not ready to release anything. So that being said, I am sure DEV's will get it worked in eventually. Have faith.
Well i think mwakious probably has the skills to work on camera. i am not sure but have been using his ROMs(Sense 3.6) nd he keeps fiddling with the camera so am pretty sure he has some knowledge. i was willing to ask him to work on a sense 4 ROM but m new here. Although i have been rooting and using custom ROMs for quite some time now and just wanted to thank all the devs so i thought i shud join xda too. I am using mwakious3drom v8.1 and love his work. unfortunately its very sad to know what mwakious and other italians are going through these days. m sure if mwakious has the time to look into a sense 4 ROM he will succeed. Any one of you who can reach him do give it a shot i am new here so i cant post on his thread.
Yea there's definitely some talent on XDA, enough to fix 3D.
I guess we'll just see, I have faith in the dev's, i'm just an impatient sod and wanted to know if someone knew something that i didn't.
Benik3 said:
3D movies are good.
I read somewhere, that HTC will not public surce codes for camera.
That's maybe the biggest problem...
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Yes they are I've got Avatar on my phone and although that it won't work on virtuous (sense 4) it did work perfectly on 3.6 roms.
It's a great feature to have and i have no idea why anyone would buy an EVO 3D for any other reason, yea it's got a slightly faster processor than the sensation and a little bit more ram but in all honesty the sensation hold's it's own in every department, including 2D pictures which are amazing.
dladz said:
Yes they are I've got Avatar on my phone and although that it won't work on virtuous (sense 4) it did work perfectly on 3.6 roms.
It's a great feature to have and i have no idea why anyone would buy an EVO 3D for any other reason, yea it's got a slightly faster processor than the sensation and a little bit more ram but in all honesty the sensation hold's it's own in every department, including 2D pictures which are amazing.
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Germany in january ... EVO 3d : 270€ Sensation : 430 . Ive got another reason
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The new leaked sense 4.5 camera app

hi, just found the sense 4.5 leaked camera app from the one x forum, after fixing permission, i was able to run the camera app of or evo 3d but unfortunately everytime i go into the settings of the app, the app force closes
can anyone fix this leaked version of the camera app?
Are u gonna post it???
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I'll take a look at it but you might need to post it. Would help a lot
Found this one.. good luck to whoever.
edit: don't flash this, I did nothing to it.. just copied the file from the One X forum for someone to tamper with to get it working for the 3D possibly.
DVinti said:
Found this one.. good luck to whoever.
edit: don't flash this, I did nothing to it.. just copied the file from the One X forum for someone to tamper with to get it working for the 3D possibly.
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Thanks I'll decompile tomorrow and take a look.
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tomanlam said:
hi, just found the sense 4.5 leaked camera app from the one x forum, after fixing permission, i was able to run the camera app of or evo 3d but unfortunately everytime i go into the settings of the app, the app force closes
can anyone fix this leaked version of the camera app?
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Whats the difference between sense 4.0 and sense 4.5 camera?
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Panaromic shooting
Slow motion video shooting
Scene selection
Full HD
Hmm, interesting new feature
I think that new feature will take an advantage of image sense and f 2.0 aperture?
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none of the feats 00mpollard mentioned is going to work without ZSL (Zero Shutter Lag)
and no one is working on ZSL for the EVO 3D except the "goodguy" cough cough !!
so unless someone contacts him and co-develops this with him its no use porting it
Let me get this straight, sense FOUR POINT FIVE, not FOUR POINT ZERO or FOUR POINT ONE, if HTC has sense 4.5 already they are wrong for the shiiit they put us through with the ICS update (-.-)
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this apk works partially indeed
it can shoot picture, but the shooting mechanism is odd, u press onto the screen NOT TO FOCUS but to shoot
and the resolution of the pic shot is awfully low...if i rmb correctly, they r all of the 640x480 size...
You can still port .. we never got a zsl kernel because no zsl cam was correctly ported.. so if this is ported, we could see a kernel pop up at a 3rd party site.
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Yes indeed but 3d will break, so around in circles we shall go, unless you are already on a rom with no 3d function
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ognimnella said:
Let me get this straight, sense FOUR POINT FIVE, not FOUR POINT ZERO or FOUR POINT ONE, if HTC has sense 4.5 already they are wrong for the shiiit they put us through with the ICS update (-.-)
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That's just marketing. If you want the latest you have to buy it even though the 3vo has good specs. That's sprint for you.
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it would be awesome if it supports 3D. I think only a few loves em.
is it still possible for sense 4.0 and later for 3D?
s_superman said:
none of the feats 00mpollard mentioned is going to work without ZSL (Zero Shutter Lag)
and no one is working on ZSL for the EVO 3D except the "goodguy" cough cough !!
so unless someone contacts him and co-develops this with him its no use porting it
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ZSL is now implemented
Where please? is it in 3.5?
Thank you
So... Anything? Is this possible, someone working on it or was it forgotten?
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Who whants to pay for 3D on 4.x.x roms

Maybe if a developer get paid for doing the 3D thing on our Evo 4.x.x roms does this sound interesting?
I am in for 25$
who is next?
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Wrong section!!!
Anyway, I most likely wouldn't, maybe I'd do a little donation, but why are you asking this?
Well i want 3d in sense 4 too full functionality.
But Change section
Moved to General
IMO the only developer (who is still interested in Evo) capable to create functional drivers for 3D camera is agrabren. You can contribute him, but don't expect any ETA.
Personally I.would rather have 4g on a sense 4 Rom. Newt was about to put one out but things happened and it didn't come out. Makes me sad as his sense 4 he had was awesome.
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Id pay for 4g development
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Not to be the debbie downer but I can guarantee you with 100% certainty that neither 3d nor 4g will ever be implemented on Sence 4.1+ rom. Just not gonna happen.
I'd just be happy with 3D on JB (camera and all)
Don't care if still on Sense 3.6 and there isn't 4G in my area.
Kolma said:
I'd just be happy with 3D on JB (camera and all)
Don't care if still on Sense 3.6 and there isn't 4G in my area.
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why do you need jb?
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why do you need jb?
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Why not?
micens said:
Why not?
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because you don't have 3d
I mean what you gain in contrary with a nice 4.0.3 Rom?
orlox said:
because you don't have 3d
I mean what you gain in contrary with a nice 4.0.3 Rom?
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No, no, I use 4.0.3 roms, and happy with it, but, why not use JB if it possible make 3D with... I talk about that
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why do you need jb?
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I want a proper working Google Now that's all top notch.
Google Now on ICS is fine and all but it's not up to date and doesn't run perfect.
troyboytn said:
Not to be the debbie downer but I can guarantee you with 100% certainty that neither 3d nor 4g will ever be implemented on Sence 4.1+ rom. Just not gonna happen.
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Well not with that attitude...
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Nothing to do with attitude. It has already been tried by some if the most talented devs who have ever worked on the Evo. "They" said it would never happen and they have already moved on to new devices.
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Let's just pay HTC for the source code? Anyone in with a few thousand bucks?
troyboytn said:
Nothing to do with attitude. It has already been tried by some if the most talented devs who have ever worked on the Evo. "They" said it would never happen and they have already moved on to new devices.
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Mwakious is still working on sense 4+ rom with working 3d camera.
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No bull**** talks only people WHO wants to donate.. Admin clean bull**** talks please
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I'd contribute something if 3D didn't already give me a headache to look at on this thing.

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