Hey guys, I just won one of these tablets at a Sony launch night.. I was surrounded by so many developer tablets too, if only i'd known about the trouble you guys are having rooting one.. i could have dumped any of them! oh well, sorry!
Anyway, I like the idea of the tablet, but i think i like the idea of going to a proven rootable tablet like the motorola xoom or asus transformer..
I also don't like how sony have locked the SD card as far as i can see, which doesn't allow for expandable memory.
should i ditch this tablet onto ebay and buy something else? what is everyone's opinion?
Will this tablet be good once they update it or if one of you guys can root it so customize all these features?
Thanks guys
Best Android tablet out there at the moment, but then I would say that on this forum
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Hmmm, what do u mean with locked sd card?
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being a gadget freak myself, i can say that this is one of the best tablet at this time... regarding the SD card, different software / multimedia players has the capability to directly access the external sdcard (no need for file transfer), so this shouldn't be a problem for me.. as of now i'm satisfied with the Sony Tablet, but things could definitely be better once rooted..
I returned my tablet S a few weeks ago.
It's an inferior product compared to the HTC Jetstream and Ipad 2 (I own both of them atm).
So... I'd say sell it and grab a Jetstream.
As usual you'll usually get the more negative people posting than the positive. I returned my Galaxy 10.1 for the S and I couldn't be happier. Ipad2 has no appeal for me, I have an iPhone and I really don't need a giant version of it. Its basically design/customization that each of the manufacturers do. HTC is very customized from their end with Sense, Galaxy with the Touchwiz, overall I liked Sony's better. If you're looking for a flat tablet, I'd say the Galaxy or Jetstream, if you want something you can hold and not get tired of, I'd say the S.
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I returned my tablet S a few weeks ago.
It's an inferior product compared to the HTC Jetstream and Ipad 2 (I own both of them atm).
So... I'd say sell it and grab a Jetstream.
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I returned my tablet S a few weeks ago.
It's an inferior product compared to the HTC Jetstream and Ipad 2 (I own both of them atm).
So... I'd say sell it and grab a Jetstream.
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Sure, if you've got loads of money In fact, Sony tablet is on par with the ipad 2, even better in most cases
Yes, I do agree that S is better then ipad, especially you are really using in on the road, not at home. You can easy grab the S on hand and control it. Really really nice. For G Tab, I think it just a copy cat.... not a design...
Im pretty satisfied with it. I dont use mine much, cause i have been at home, and use my laptop. I use the tab, when traveling. The only complaint I have about it, is im afraid to scratch the screen as it is plasticy feeling instead of the gorilla glass.
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Do you mind to share why you are thinking of upgrading or replacing?
I am a very satisfied user of the GT10.1 - there is no need to rush for upgrades or replacement now.
Maybe next year with ICS and Quad-Core CPU's there will be some reason to upgrade.
I would recommend to you to sit down and enjoy your GT10.1 until a significantly better and more powerful tablet becomes available.
There is no better option today - simple as that!
If you don't like some minor lags and bugs present on Honeycomb, you can try the iPad2. I tried and gave up - I really don't adapt to Apple's limited iOS, I like the freedom to customize and play with the OS - and only Android can give me that.
And looking on other Android tablets, I went for the GT10.1 because of its weight and thickness - which was important to me, because my primary use is for ebook handheld reading.
My sincere advice - enjoy your tablet and wait for mid-2012 - there will be plenty of new options by then!
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Do you mind to share why you are thinking of upgrading or replacing?
I am a very satisfied user of the GT10.1 - there is no need to rush for upgrades or replacement now.
Maybe next year with ICS and Quad-Core CPU's there will be some reason to upgrade.
I would recommend to you to sit down and enjoy your GT10.1 until a significantly better and more powerful tablet becomes available.
There is no better option today - simple as that!
If you don't like some minor lags and bugs present on Honeycomb, you can try the iPad2. I tried and gave up - I really don't adapt to Apple's limited iOS, I like the freedom to customize and play with the OS - and only Android can give me that.
And looking on other Android tablets, I went for the GT10.1 because of its weight and thickness - which was important to me, because my primary use is for ebook handheld reading.
My sincere advice - enjoy your tablet and wait for mid-2012 - there will be plenty of new options by then!
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Man I couldn't have said it any better myself!!!
I'm with you m8, I think most people who post asking when the next os update is coming out or what the next device your going to upgrade to are really missing out. Instead of worrying about all that... Just enjoy.
And in my honest opinion the GT10. 1 is on the top of the heap right now... I had an Xoom for a week, took it back. I have a EVO View 4G that I use for work and my Tab knocks both of them out of the water.
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Instead of replacing I like to have more than one. I was tempted by Sony S1 but held myself from buying it. (Just for PSX games. But no HDMI on board.) I had a Transformer for a week. I have a GTAB 7 which I rarely use now. I love 10.1, but I miss the sim, and sd slots there. USB adapter is not the best solution. I really dont care how thin or light it is. My next tablet will not be a Samsung this time. I am really tired of waiting for them to update the firmware. I did manual update for Gtab7. S1 is getting 3.2 update now. Xoom and others too. I think I will wait this time for a quad core.... and I am very tempted for a windows 8 slate, but market and battery issues with W8 is a question mark.
I am in the camp of loving my tab. I don't even think about other tablets. I picked mine up on launch day in the u.s. and in the 3 months that I have had it we received the touchwiz update. With word of ICS coming this fall I see no reason for Samsung to spend any resources on honeycomb 3.2, really what is the point to spending all those development resources on 3.2 when everybody will be moving to ICS?
You also have to wonder just how much improvement the new processors will affect what tablets can do. You will hear people say that newer tablets can do this or that but if you look at how technology evolves, the improvement comes in steps, not giant leaps. I personally am not going to drop $500 plus on a new tablet and accessories every year, although Best Buy would love that. Did you buy a new desktop computer every year? This doesn't just pertain to android either, other than weight and a crappy camera, what does the ipad 2 do that the first can't?
I bet in one year in the transformer 2 or xoom 2 forums there will be a thread that reads, "was upgrading really worth it?" Or "why is there only a handful of apps that utilize the quad core?"
I also understand that there are people who absolutely have to have the newest tech and play around with it. Like a hobby. But then there are also others who just never will be satisfied with what they have.
Personally I think I will wait and upgrade every two years like my phones so that you can see marked improvement and give time for developers to increase the amount of content that is compatible with newer devices. Sure I can want more ports and not just a 30 pin connector but I knew this when I bought the tab, so I can't really complain about it. Long story short- I use my tab every day, getting my moneys worth, see you in two years on another forum.
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Depending on how the Next gen honeycomb tablets bring to the gameboard i might just wait it out for a ipad 3... personally i own a galaxy tab 10.1 atm its really good serves all my needs except for hdmi output...
I am eagerly awaiting the HP Touchpad 2.
More seriously, I just dropped several hundred on the Samsung 10.1 a few months ago so why bother with crippling my enjoyment by worrying about obsolescence? There will no doubt be something newer and better soon enough, but I doubt it will be able to do anything more other than this one and feature only incremental improvements.
The Windows 8 Tablets will suck for home use unless they actually relase an ARM version of that OS. I wouldn't want to cuddle up on the couch with a tablet that had a cooling fan.
Lookout for the iPad 3,though. It just might be slick enough to excuse Apple's restrictions.
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Depending on how the Next gen honeycomb tablets bring to the gameboard i might just wait it out for a ipad 3... personally i own a galaxy tab 10.1 atm its really good serves all my needs except for hdmi output...
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Sorry, but today I spent hours playing Crash Bandicoot on my 55" Samsung TV. Fpse+ps3 joypad+Samsung hdmi adapter. So I am quite happy with the hdmi out. No flickering. Only I don't have all screen estate. Bars both sides.
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If I had the cash to toss around I would seriously be looking at the Toshiba Excite that's about to come out. Don't know too much about specs but it has on board microUSB, USB, and a microSD card slot, on a surprisingly thin body. That would be pretty cool.
xoom2 for me, i've had the xoom but took it back and now i have the sgt 10.1. It has been stated that a quad core ics tablet will be out before christmas so i will probably take back this sgt and wait for that.
Good day all. I'm a Best Buy Silver member and have 45 day returns on merchandise. Anyways I picked up the Flyer a week ago and compared to the other tabs I have owned or own (Asus, Acer A500 and A100, HP Touchpad) this is the best in terms of overall functions. Another reason why I say that is because 10 inch tabs are over-the-top; especially if they don't have any ports (that's why I kept the Acer A500). I find 7-9 inchers are more usable. This Flyer is smooth and functions properly unlike most of the Honeycomb tabs. My only concern is will HTC update this beautiful beast? So I'm posing the question to the community of whether to ditch the Flyer or wait it out. Also any input or thoughts about the Samsung 7.0 Plus and if its worth the extra $100 are appreciated
I wish HTC would say something offical and it will make my decision clear.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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Yea this tablet game is crazy. Sometimes I wish I would have been simple and gotten an iPad. Android is getting ridiculous. Anyways the inferred remote, updates, and Samsung usually has a decent amount of accessories is what's keeping me interested. I just have a bad feeling that the flyer is dead.
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its maddening. HTC built an almost perfect tablet in the FLyer and then overpriced it at introduction and has failed to support it properly now. Makes me wonder if they are exiting the tablet market.
I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I think the Xoom 2 is a 8.2. I perfer the 7 inch, because I played with the Samsung 8 inch but it is tad big. I'm looking for something I can whip out in public and not look ridiculous. I think the Xoom will cost $545 though, didn't they learn anything?
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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chimp
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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chimp
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Thank you, but the Nexus S is a phone, isn't it? And, yeah the 10" tab is going to be too large.
I'll have to get to Best Buy and see if they at least have an HTC Flyer on display that I can fiddle with.
I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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You are right. I looked at some benchmark test it test better then every HC tab except te Samsung 10.1
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Black Friday will probably yield some good deals, so I'm at least hanging tight for that pricing to come out before jumping on anything - and I think I'm going to sell my Ipod Touch, latest gen, NEVER use it.
Ahhh, eBay (or friends on FB, lol)
I have the flyer and I love it! It's built super solid, its very fast, and I love how it scales apps in contrast to how to Galaxy tab did. On a 7" device I would end up using more phone apps then tablet apps anyway, so I don't care about honeycomb. I love my Flyer! The only thing that may replace it is the Galaxy Note...but then again I may still keep it since its really not worth it to only get $200 used for it. Hell, I'd keep it for that just to lend out or use it as a dedicated clock!
I used to be a active user here on XDA when Wondows mobile was the "cool" Mobile OS. Then I bought a iPod Touch when my father bought into the iPhone 3G. I got sucked into Apple with the 3GS, then the 4. I bought a 64gb 3g iPad when it came out, as well...but then I bought a ATT 3g Galaxy Tab refurbished just to try out android....and fell in love.(it made me feel like I used to with windows mobile...the customization) I kept the TAB for a few months then decided to sell both my iPad and my Tab and buy a iPad wifi for cheap, and a Flyer. I canceled my contract and used my unlimited ipad SIM in my Jailbroken iPhone 4....Loving life($30 a month is my only phone bill!)! That iPhone may be downgraded to a mp3 player though....since I am eye balling the Galaxy Note now.
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I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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The WiFi version is $300 on Amazon. But yes, the GSM one that I want is still pretty pricey. If I got the original Tab, though, I'd just pick it up from eBay or the forums or something. Or, maybe it will be on sale during Black Friday, since any retailers that still have them need to clear their inventory to make room for the Plus.
This is a hard decision, to be honest. After doing some more research on the Flyer, it seems that the easiest one to acquire in the States (the WiFi one from Best Buy), is also the one that throws up hurdles for modders, such as the inability to go back to stock from a custom ROM.
Now I'm kind of back at square one, debating between the original Tab, the Tab Plus, the Flyer, the IdeaPad A1, and pending more details and reviews, the Huawei MediaPad.
Hey guys
Im selling my gtab on most probably ebay, and so i need to get bk to complete out the box stock for the UK. Does anyone know what the latest firmware for britain is to achieve this? Will it unroot the tab? as i would like it to be unrooted in the process.
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Adam (ps- for those wondering why im selling the gtab; im buying the ipad 3, sorry) ;(
Good god, the iPad 3 is horrible, it's like the iPad 1st gen with just more clarity which doesn't make sense, the 5MP camera doesn't even make up for that HD processing that the pad can handle. It's hilarious because the iPad 1-2-3 are almost practially the same -.- and the iPad is a steamrolled version of the iPhone, poor app support for apple tablets. If not for the iPhone 4 HD the iPad market would have plummet.
I've mentioned this before and will do so again, the only time I will get an iPad is if it completely negates the use for a laptop. The iPad3 is only useful if you have a DSLR like a D700 or a D7000 that can render out 10~16MP HD pictures, then that totally makes sense. Or else the only HD you're going to end up getting is some Googled HD wallpapers. And to get those sexy pictures onto the tablet, guess what! You need a laptop -.-, Atleast the 10.1 accept's USB slot's that can detect the camera's MMC unlike the iPad. Sorry for the rant, but I'm not here for fanboyism of which is better These are just a few reason's why the iPad in general isn't worth it. In the end you're going to buy a crap ton of over priced devices just to transfer a picture without the need for a laptop. Useless devices that too. But if you have the money, feel free
Then again, your choice As per your question, Sammobile may guide you on that quest. Doesn't matter what region it is, EU firmware in general does the job for NZ,AU,UK,US regions. Unless it's a 3G tablet then the SIM does the job of the regional settings, so it's all good.
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Good god, the iPad 3 is horrible, it's like the iPad 1st gen with just more clarity which doesn't make sense, the 5MP camera doesn't even make up for that HD processing that the pad can handle. It's hilarious because the iPad 1-2-3 are almost practially the same -.- and the iPad is a steamrolled version of the iPhone, poor app support for apple tablets. If not for the iPhone 4 HD the iPad market would have plummet.
I've mentioned this before and will do so again, the only time I will get an iPad is if it completely negates the use for a laptop. The iPad3 is only useful if you have a DSLR like a D700 or a D7000 that can render out 10~16MP HD pictures, then that totally makes sense. Or else the only HD you're going to end up getting is some Googled HD wallpapers. And to get those sexy pictures onto the tablet, guess what! You need a laptop -.-, Atleast the 10.1 accept's USB slot's that can detect the camera's MMC unlike the iPad. Sorry for the rant, but I'm not here for fanboyism of which is better These are just a few reason's why the iPad in general isn't worth it. In the end you're going to buy a crap ton of over priced devices just to transfer a picture without the need for a laptop. Useless devices that too. But if you have the money, feel free
Then again, your choice As per your question, Sammobile may guide you on that quest. Doesn't matter what region it is, EU firmware in general does the job for NZ,AU,UK,US regions. Unless it's a 3G tablet then the SIM does the job of the regional settings, so it's all good.
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Wow right well that was certainly interesting to read.
I was actually thinking of buying the ipad as i really want some decent tablet apps... And while the market has a few it just dosent have the same depth that the app store has.
Wat do u think of the note 10.1 or new tf coming out? :L
And ok thanks for info about the firmware.
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Wow right well that was certainly interesting to read.
I was actually thinking of buying the ipad as i really want some decent tablet apps... And while the market has a few it just dosent have the same depth that the app store has.
Wat do u think of the note 10.1 or new tf coming out? :L
And ok thanks for info about the firmware.
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Well as far as I know the iPad3 is currently known as the Photographer's tablet Since it basically does everything a photographer wants, contrast, gamma, etc. I do however apologise for the fuse blown on the previous Just thought it's best we equip the user's before they blow money on devices that they feel "Hey This isn't as good as I thought it was"
I do agree with you, the Android tablet market is kinda, weird and at an all time low atm, Samsung keeps making tablet's like hotcakes that they aren't even aware of the situation in the android market, What's worse is there are separate apps -.- I kinda liked iPad Appstore for one main reason, it only shows you what can be installed on the tablet and when it does, it makes sure that it works 100% on the tablet. The android market shows almost everything at some point that when consumers purchase an app, they are bummed to find out after downloading 700~1GB worth of files that "Unsupported Device" or some BSOD or worse, lag galore like no other, I've seen the refund's section being piled up lately because of new devices vs no app support.
You can however get the 11.6 if you want, should be coming right around the corner in Q2-Q3 as the 10.1 Note is nothing new, Giant graphics tablet. 10.2 is a waste too. Because of poor tegra2 chip that screws over the tablet. You'd think Nvidia the world's leading graphics team would have done something about this.
There has been some good reviews about the TF, but the TF Prime they say is mind boggling. Then again great tablet, but poor app support atm.
So, do you think the Flyer/View is outdated/slow/etc. or a fine, great tablet?
Or even, are you getting a new tablet to work alongside it?
And why?
Personally, I got the Flyer just at the end of August and enjoying using it since day 1. Liked the experience on Gingerbread, but now I realize how much better it is on Honeycomb (and soon it may get better thanks to ROM cookers and Jelly Bean), and I if someone would offer me to get any new tablet that is currently on the market - I certainly wouldn't rush to the nearest tech store, and I'm considering keeping the Flyer for a coming year/year and a half (maybe less, don't know yet). If I am to get a new tablet - it would probably be N7 or some of the medium-end/high-end Acer 10" tablets. Samsung is simply not my choice at all.
If there was any hope of getting ICS or Jellybean on the Flyer/View in the foreseeable future I'd stick with my View, but that doesn't seem too likely. I've got my eye on the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1.
I'm kinda curious about the iPad mini that may be coming out in October. If its good and competitively priced for a 7", I might consider it just for the support and updates. I became fatigued with the anticipation, worry, and letdown that is HTC. I still can't play videos from AOL homepage and the HuffingtonPost website basically freezes my tablet- I had to learn what websites I can and can't use with my View HC. I just want my stuff to work, that's all I ask- especially when all I'm doing is surfing the internet. If apple really listened and shrunk the iPad to a more convenient size, I will reward them with my money. Now, if they would just team up with wacom for the perfect stylus. I initially overlooked apple because it couldn't play flash videos, but now that apparently flash is being phased out and apple products can play most internet videos and content, I'm willing to consider their products again.
The flyer serves my needs but my experience with it will keep me from buying from HTC again
Flyer
Jumped on an Acer A500 on Redtag.com that works fairly well for sub-$200 (refurbed). It's not my daily tool though; the Flyer still rarely leaves my side. But for multi-media/light gaming needs, the A500 is doing nicely. But I won't take a 10" tablet on public transporation in the city; that's asking to become a statistic (IMO).
The 7" is still perfect for ebook reading, keeping up on emails and social networks, and not only is it 3G, I can tether it to my phone for 4G connectivity.
I think and option is missing from the poll; "Getting a new one to work alongside the Flyer."
ya Im thinking of it....I never buy Samsung sh**s...Probably N7 will my next.......Flyer is good...I want to taste JB.....thasts y i'm going to change...
The flyer really suits my needs, small Tab with pen. But Honeycomb is full of issues. And the other problem is, I can't afford to buy every year a US$500 tablet. And even now after HTC "broke" it, the resell prices are also bad for the Flyer.
Well I can't remember ever felt such a disappointment with a company so, I'm going to avoid HTC. Also the people next to me,
In future I'm just going to buy Nexus devices, I think they offered the best customer experience
So HTC you made it, your problem management is "outstanding"! You just don't answer.... coward company.
New tablets may be $400+, but refurbs are around the $200 mark. I laid my hands on a refurbed A500 16GB for less than $200 shipped. The coolest thing about this tablet is the full-sized USB port on the side that pushes enough juice to power a 2.5" SATA drive. It's an older processor, but ICS works nicely.
The bottom line is to get a new tablet you don't need to buy new to get decent performance, nor do you need to buy every year.
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New tablets may be $400+, but refurbs are around the $200 mark. I laid my hands on a refurbed A500 16GB for less than $200 shipped. The coolest thing about this tablet is the full-sized USB port on the side that pushes enough juice to power a 2.5" SATA drive. It's an older processor, but ICS works nicely.
The bottom line is to get a new tablet you don't need to buy new to get decent performance, nor do you need to buy every year.
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How about A510?
They didn't have any A510 at the time, though it's this year's model, so probably not a lot on the refurbed market yet.
I have not been been looking for a new tablet. However, if Google releases a 32gb nexus 7 for $250, i will probably go for it.
PS They might also also be releasing a 4G version at the end of October.
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I have not been been looking for a new tablet. However, if Google releases a 32gb nexus 7 for $250, i will probably go for it.
PS They might also also be releasing a 4G version at the end of October.
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I wanna Nexus 7. Even if it will be without 3G, 4G.
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I'm kinda curious about the iPad mini that may be coming out in October. If its good and competitively priced for a 7", I might consider it just for the support and updates. I became fatigued with the anticipation, worry, and letdown that is HTC. I still can't play videos from AOL homepage and the HuffingtonPost website basically freezes my tablet- I had to learn what websites I can and can't use with my View HC. I just want my stuff to work, that's all I ask- especially when all I'm doing is surfing the internet. If apple really listened and shrunk the iPad to a more convenient size, I will reward them with my money. Now, if they would just team up with wacom for the perfect stylus. I initially overlooked apple because it couldn't play flash videos, but now that apparently flash is being phased out and apple products can play most internet videos and content, I'm willing to consider their products again.
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I do hope you realize Apple never prices anything competitively...
Well my brother has a nexus 7, i tried it and its awesome!!!
But i can do everything i need to do with my flyer. of course flyer can be better, hope for a new update from htc (yeah no ics, but didnt they say they still gonna give support? dunno how , just hoping) or a good custom rom ics/jb.
im not aware of the tablets these days, except for the nexus.
next tablet? dont know. gonna fly till it dies haha.
would be nice if in the future there will be a nexus with pen functions like flyer.
A Nexus with Pen, that's my wish too
Nexus will be great with Galaxy Note 10.1's Pen.
It is better that Magic Pen.
The HTC experiense was bad for me.Being used to the OTA updates on my nexus s.
Already sold the Flyer for 150 euro and bought the Nexus 7. I will surely get the OTA for the next 2 years. No need for rooting,
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I do hope you realize Apple never prices anything competitively...
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Yeah $329 was quite disappointing. No way I can justify it when the wifi only model is that expensive. I'll probably look into the nexus 7. Although, I started using an internet browser app that has given my View 4g hope. It's called Puffin and its pretty fast and plays all the flash I throw at it. Another plus for the View 4g is that I can use the Sprint Zone app and purchase the no contract/commitment data plan- hopefully that's just like prepaid. As for the nexus 7, I was disappointed that it doesn't natively support flash, have a microSD card slot, or have HDMI out. But it's still a great tablet, especially if they sell it for $99 for an 8gb model.
I just bought a galaxy note 2 to replace my galaxy nexus and it looks like it will replace my HTC flyer too. It does have a smaller screen but it is much more friendly and has a few more features that the flyer does not.
Well, I may have hit the jackpot last night. My wife said she would like to have a tablet for doing simple stuff like checking her email and lite web surfing without having to haul out her laptop. She then suggests that she really likes my Prime and maybe she could use that and I could get a new one
...Ding, ding, ding, ding....jackpot! Of course I'm having a charging issue with it at the moment so all of this depends on making that work...but thats a separate issue.
The thing is now I have to decide what to get for me to replace the prime and I actually really like my prime. What I love about the prime largely comes from the keyboard dock. Besides the physical keyboard which is a must for me:
1. Extra battery in the dock
2. SD card slot in the dock.
3. USB port in the dock. I use all kinds of things here. USB flash drives, USB wired ethernet, external hard drives, USB input devices, and even multiple devices at the same time with a USB mini hub.
By Prime is unlocked and running Hairy Bean 2.3.1. So I want somthing new that gives me all that functionality I get from the ASUS keyboard dock, is running at least Android 4.2 out of the box, and has the potential to root, unlock and custom ROM later (probably after the warranty expires).
Ideas?
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Well, I may have hit the jackpot last night. My wife said she would like to have a tablet for doing simple stuff like checking her email and lite web surfing without having to haul out her laptop. She then suggests that she really likes my Prime and maybe she could use that and I could get a new one
...Ding, ding, ding, ding....jackpot! Of course I'm having a charging issue with it at the moment so all of this depends on making that work...but thats a separate issue.
The thing is now I have to decide what to get for me to replace the prime and I actually really like my prime. What I love about the prime largely comes from the keyboard dock. Besides the physical keyboard which is a must for me:
1. Extra battery in the dock
2. SD card slot in the dock.
3. USB port in the dock. I use all kinds of things here. USB flash drives, USB wired ethernet, external hard drives, USB input devices, and even multiple devices at the same time with a USB mini hub.
By Prime is unlocked and running Hairy Bean 2.3.1. So I want somthing new that gives me all that functionality I get from the ASUS keyboard dock, is running at least Android 4.2 out of the box, and has the potential to root, unlock and custom ROM later (probably after the warranty expires).
Ideas?
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I wouldn't touch Asus tablets again after the mess they made of the Prime.
I know you want a dock so this doesn't really apply but if I was buying a new tablet any time soon I would probably get the new Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition. The specs look great and I like the s-pen and the multitasking.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/2014galaxynote10.1/
I suggest Nexus 10, but it has no dock as far as i know.
the only tablets with propitiatory docks are:
1. asus transformer series
2. iPad (BT though)
3. Microsoft surface (LAGGY)
4. Windows tablets (e.g. the lenovo yoga,dell XPS, sony ,etc)
personally, i would get
ONE: Asus PadFone just cause its technically the only tablet you can make 2/3G calls with
(and the asus padfone has 3 "transformable" states [phone --> tablet --> laptop/ultrabook)
PRICE: 1000
TWO Razer Edge PRO, its windows based, and we're android users, but that I7 core and dedicated grpahics is just amazing
PRICE: 1000-3000
I believe HP has just announced a new android tablet with a detachable keyboard as well. I think it is sporting a tegra 4 chip.
http://www8.hp.com/ca/en/ads/x2/slatebook-x2.html
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
Not the TF700?
woot.com (and its various woot-ettes) have been running sales on TF300s and TF700s of late. They only do one item per day, but they have like ten thousand sites now, so you might get lucky.
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I believe HP has just announced a new android tablet with a detachable keyboard as well. I think it is sporting a tegra 4 chip.
http://www8.hp.com/ca/en/ads/x2/slatebook-x2.html
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Thanks for all the replies. I was looking hard at the HP with Android and the Tegra 4. Specs wise it looks really good. But....my wife ended up deciding she wanted a Windows based tablet. Not RT but a full Windows. So she ended up buying an HP Envy X2 which is really pretty nice (though a bit pricey at $619 on Amazon). I actually kind of like the thing though...she doesn't much like it now that she has it. Doesn't like Windows 8 at all even though we had been over it using a Surface Pro I have for work. Soooooo, today I downloaded Stardock's Start 8 which puts the Windows 7 start menu back where it belongs and lets you start directly to the desktop where most of her work is anyway. Basically I made it look as much like Windows 7 as I could without actually installing Windows 7.
Oh well. Looks like I'm sticking with my Prime for the foreseeable future. Which actually isn't a bad thing. I've got the latest and greatest from flumpster on there (HB 2.31) and it really works better than ever...actually it works the way Asus should have made it work in the first place. So, not a bad thing at all other than that I spent $619 on something my wife doesn't really like (hope she likes it better when she gets home today and sees how I Windows 7ized it for her).
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Thanks for all the replies. I was looking hard at the HP with Android and the Tegra 4. Specs wise it looks really good. But....my wife ended up deciding she wanted a Windows based tablet. Not RT but a full Windows. So she ended up buying an HP Envy X2 which is really pretty nice (though a bit pricey at $619 on Amazon). I actually kind of like the thing though...she doesn't much like it now that she has it. Doesn't like Windows 8 at all even though we had been over it using a Surface Pro I have for work. Soooooo, today I downloaded Stardock's Start 8 which puts the Windows 7 start menu back where it belongs and lets you start directly to the desktop where most of her work is anyway. Basically I made it look as much like Windows 7 as I could without actually installing Windows 7.
Oh well. Looks like I'm sticking with my Prime for the foreseeable future. Which actually isn't a bad thing. I've got the latest and greatest from flumpster on there (HB 2.31) and it really works better than ever...actually it works the way Asus should have made it work in the first place. So, not a bad thing at all other than that I spent $619 on something my wife doesn't really like (hope she likes it better when she gets home today and sees how I Windows 7ized it for her).
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How can you call a $600 tablet a "replacement" for a tf201? You can buy three tf201s for that and have a lot of change left over. I hate it when people compare the advantages of a $600 item with one that can be had for well under $200. Would you talk about Jaguars when looking for a Chevy replacement?
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How can you call a $600 tablet a "replacement" for a tf201? You can buy three tf201s for that and have a lot of change left over. I hate it when people compare the advantages of a $600 item with one that can be had for well under $200. Would you talk about Jaguars when looking for a Chevy replacement?
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It depends if you was comparing a brand new Chevy to a Jaguar coming to the end of its life cycle.
I hate it when people make analogies and try to make it suit their need. Do you think the Prime was under $200 when brand new?
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It depends if you was comparing a brand new Chevy to a Jaguar coming to the end of its life cycle.
I hate it when people make analogies and try to make it suit their need. Do you think the Prime was under $200 when brand new?
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BS. A 1960's Jag is still worth far more than a Chevy that's being "replaced". (Obviosly the Chevy isn't new either.) And anyone who paid the original price for a tf201 has probably replaced it long ago. There are new 10" tab;ets hitting the market regularly that sell for under $300.
But personally, I'm perfectly happy with my tf201. It is running Android 4.3, gets very good battery life and has an Antu benchmark of 14,562. You'd have a hard time finding a brand new tablet for under $400 that could match those specs.
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BS. A 1960's Jag is still worth far more than a Chevy that's being "replaced". (Obviosly the Chevy isn't new either.) And anyone who paid the original price for a tf201 has probably replaced it long ago. There are new 10" tab;ets hitting the market regularly that sell for under $300.
But personally, I'm perfectly happy with my tf201. It is running Android 4.3, gets very good battery life and has an Antu benchmark of 14,562. You'd have a hard time finding a brand new tablet for under $400 that could match those specs.
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Are you still trying to make that analogy work ?
I paid original price for the tf201 and still have it and so do many others. There has been nothing until now that has really made me want to upgrade.
When people replace things it doesn't have to be the same value as what the old one is worth. I'm pretty sure he can spend what he wants.
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Are you still trying to make that analogy work ?
I paid original price for the tf201 and still have it and so do many others. There has been nothing until now that has really made me want to upgrade.
When people replace things it doesn't have to be the same value as what the old one is worth. I'm pretty sure he can spend what he wants.
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Agree completely. Comparing what I could pay now for a two year old item with what a brand new one costs, doesn't make any sense. You basically have to compare what I originally paid for the Prime, new VS what I would pay today to get a similar new item. I just pulled up my Amazon.Com order for when I originally got my Prime to refresh my memory. Here was what was on it:
Prime: $474.99
Keyboard dock: $110.86
Case: $17.95
32GB Micro SD: $19.49
Shipping: $15.96
Total: $639.25 and I remember thinking I was getting a reasonably good deal at the time.
Take out the SD card and the case and it comes out to $601.81, or about the same price we paid for my Wife's new HP machine which came with the keyboard as standard. Everyone can decide for themselves if they like Windows 8. Hardware wise the Envy X2 is way faster than the Prime and it gets better battery life (similar configuration to the prime with a battery in both the tablet part and the keyboard).
But performance comparisons are not fair either. Of course the brand new Atom out performs the two year old Tegra 3. If I were buying an Android tablet today, I'd be looking for a Tegra 4 or similar,
Here is another way the analogy brakes down. Forget about an old Jag vs an old chevy. A better example is that I just bought a new 2013 Nissan truck. Now those have not changed all that much since introduced in 2005. I could probably buy two or three 2005's for what I paid for the 2013, but hey, I wanted a new one.
One final place where the analogy brakes down. A 1960's Jag qualifies as a "classic"/"vintage" where an outdated piece of computing hardware counts as "land fill" in pretty much everyone's book.
By the way, the whole purpose of this thread was not how much a prime or a windows tablet costs. The Idea was to find a newer, faster, better tablet that would also have all the features I like about the prime. Just saying.
PS: Flumpster, thanks for all your work on HB. It is because of you that the Prime is still relevant at all rather than (as I mentioned above) "land fill". It is also because of you and HB that I don't fee bad about hanging onto the Prime for a while.