Used a guide to root my phone. Did it count as a flash? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

I used this guide to root my phone:
forums.androidcentral.com/t-galaxy-s-ii/124047-how-root-t-galaxy-s-ii.html
It's a i777. I then read AFTER the fact (strange it wasnt mentioned in the guide. I know, my fault!) that the Flash Counter updates if you boot into download mode. This voids your warranty.
-Does rooting my phone using that guide really update my Flash Counter?
-And If so, is there a way to reset it in case something happens to my phone?
Planning on flashing CM7 or UnNamed tomorrow, so just curious.

re: Download Mode
crewxp said:
I used this guide to root my phone:
forums.androidcentral.com/t-galaxy-s-ii/124047-how-root-t-galaxy-s-ii.html
It's a i777. I then read AFTER the fact (strange it wasnt mentioned in the guide. I know, my fault!) that the Flash Counter updates if you boot into download mode. This voids your warranty.
-Does rooting my phone using that guide really update my Flash Counter?
-And If so, is there a way to reset it in case something happens to my phone?
Planning on flashing CM7 or UnNamed tomorrow, so just curious.
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Rooting the phone has nothing to do with the flash counter thingy...
When you root using SuperOneClick Rooter, the phone never goes into
download mode at all since there is NO reason to go into download mode
for just for rooting.
I know there are other methods of rooting besides SuperOneClick but
if any of the other methods require download mode I would NOT use it.
Not only because the counter, but each time we do anything in download mode we are taking a
small risk of bricking the phone so only use the download mode if you really have to and there
is no other way to do something you want to do.
That's one of the reasons why all these custom roms are zip files and
not TAR. There is way less of a chance to really damage the phone if
we use zipfiles for roms or mods or anything else.
If you want to check if the counter is started, go into download mode
by using the 2 volume control method.
Press both vol+/vol- and hold them press, then plug in the usb cable
from computer to phone.
When the screen comes up with a warning, just press vol up to continue and
look for the the word binary counter, it should say "NO" if counter is turned off.

Just booting into download mode does not trip the counter. Flashing a custom kernel via Odin or heimdall is how the binary counter gets tripped (note: flashing a stock kernel via Odin our heimdall will not trip the counter)
You can tell if you tripped the counter by
1. Seeing i9100 + yellow triangle warning sign on boot splash screen
2. Booting into download mode via volume up/down USB connect and read the counter directly
See this thread for in depth info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Also info on that thread hour to reset the counter if you want with a download mode jig, the jig will erase and reset the binary counter, all the info you need is in that thread
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thanks a bunch guys! Yeah, I see a yellow warning when I boot it up. Just heading to bed, will give that thread a look tomorrow.
But it should be possible to erase and reset the counter with a 'jig'?

crewxp said:
thanks a bunch guys! Yeah, I see a yellow warning when I boot it up. Just heading to bed, will give that thread a look tomorrow.
But it should be possible to wrasse and reset the counter with a 'jig'?
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yes. Its all in that thread.
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dayv said:
yes. Its all in that thread.
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Believe it or not, but I have never went into download mode
for any reason without the jig I purchased about two years ago.
It's not because of the counter issue with our phones but it's just
just way too convenient to use the jig.
I just heard about the counter issue here on XDA after purchasing
this i777 phone.
The Captivate and the Infuse phones I had before did not have
a counter issue.

Misterjunky said:
Believe it or not, but I have never went into download mode
for any reason without the jig I purchased about two years ago.
It's not because of the counter issue with our phones but it's just
just way too convenient to use the jig.
I just heard about the counter issue here on XDA after purchasing
this i777 phone.
The Captivate and the Infuse phones I had before did not have
a counter issue.
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Actually, the Infuse does if you flashed the H1 OTA, or the Gingerbread bootloaders from J2.

Can you re-post the thread link? IT says the thread does not exist.

re: Thread
crewxp said:
Can you re-post the thread link? IT says the thread does not exist.
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I think the moderator moved the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081

Thanks a bunch!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium

Misterjunky said:
I think the moderator moved the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
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That thread is definitely the way to go, IMO. This method will not trip the counter. Once you complete this method, you will be able to flash using CWM. CWM will not trip the counter, or the yellow triangle, when flashing.

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[Q] Flash Counter

I have read up on this a bit, but I want to be sure, as I am rooting and flashing tomorrow. So excited!
So when you do Volume Up after trying to enter Download mode (accepting the warning), you flash a ROM, you'll have a triangle on the kernel boot screen and a flash counter right?
And how do you get rid of it? I heard a JIG works, but I talked to a friend with an i9100 and he says the JIG doesn't work after a specific firmware. Does it work for us on KH7? And what value, the standard 301k?
Someone suggested this http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-download-mode-jig/ is there anything better? Cheaper? Anything that won't work I should look out for?
One more thing. Can a mod make a Q&A section like the Captivate had? I feel bad posting this in General.
Thanks for teaching an ex Android expert the ropes after being away so long *tear*
So far the only things I've read about reseting the count and get rid of the yellow triangle is the jig. I actually just ordered the one from that website. So ill let u know how it goes when ever I get it. I know my old cappy jig didn't work. Hopefully I didn't waist my money on this new one.
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From what I have been able to find out. It is the non-stock kernel that is bringing up the yellow triangle up and aside from flashing a stock kernel there isn't a way to get rid of it yet. I've heard that maybe a jig will help but haven't seen it confirmed anywhere
yoderk said:
From what I have been able to find out. It is the non-stock kernel that is bringing up the yellow triangle up and aside from flashing a stock kernel there isn't a way to get rid of it yet. I've heard that maybe a jig will help but haven't seen it confirmed anywhere
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Someone did have success with a jig.
Also, it only checks the kernel for "official" status when you flash, and it does not check the system image. So you can flash a kernel on-device if you have root from a shell:
Code:
dd if=zImage of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5
The jig I had for my captivate does get rid of the yellow triangle. Just turned off phone, held down volume buttons, inserted jig, then it said count has been zeroed or something to that effect. I rebooted and yellow triangle was gone.
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Thanks for the confirmation guys Gonna order that jig now and flashing today!
I used my home made cappy jig and it too cleared my counter and removed the yellow triangle.
On a side note the firmware on the i9100 that seems to disable this feature has to do with new bootloaders from what i read. And most of us former cappy owners have learned to stay away from unproven bootloaders.
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kytrauma said:
I used my home made cappy jig and it too cleared my counter and removed the yellow triangle.
On a side note the firmware on the i9100 that seems to disable this feature has to do with new bootloaders from what i read. And most of us former cappy owners have learned to stay away from unproven bootloaders.
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Yeah I would not flash i9100 bootloaders.... why did they change them anyway? There was no serious firmware change.
Where are you buying your jig from?
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Haas360 said:
Where are you buying your jig from?
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I got mine from MobileTechVideos for my captivate, and tried it and it worked no problem.
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Haas360 said:
Where are you buying your jig from?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using XDA App
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I believe I posted a link in the OP. From MobileTech. I bought one with Paypal
yoderk said:
From what I have been able to find out. It is the non-stock kernel that is bringing up the yellow triangle up and aside from flashing a stock kernel there isn't a way to get rid of it yet. I've heard that maybe a jig will help but haven't seen it confirmed anywhere
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Interesting. My new SGSII is on it's way, but I am curious about this as well. I've got a jig for my cap that I'll try, but if all else fails, has anyone been able to confirm that flashing back to bone stock (via the Odin pack that is posted) will revert it back to normal (i.e. for warranty replacements)?
EDIT: I also just read another potentially disturbing article that there may be a second hidden counter that counts how many times that the counter has been reset: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117295&highlight=counter
I usually wouldn't care, but I've had to return my cap twice for warranty issues, and I wouldn't want to get screwed if I had a problem with my new one.
At the very minimum I may just try and root using SuperOneClick -- does anyone know if the process uses the download mode or screws with the counter?
pinoymutt said:
Interesting. My new SGSII is on it's way, but I am curious about this as well. I've got a jig for my cap that I'll try, but if all else fails, has anyone been able to confirm that flashing back to bone stock (via the Odin pack that is posted) will revert it back to normal (i.e. for warranty replacements)?
EDIT: I also just read another potentially disturbing article that there may be a second hidden counter that counts how many times that the counter has been reset: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117295&highlight=counter
I usually wouldn't care, but I've had to return my cap twice for warranty issues, and I wouldn't want to get screwed if I had a problem with my new one.
At the very minimum I may just try and root using SuperOneClick -- does anyone know if the process uses the download mode or screws with the counter?
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Yes, the methods use to root involve changing out the kernel to allow SuperOneclick to work so this also adds to the odin counter.
I bought my jig off ebay and I confirmed days ago that it worked. I bought it for my i9100 and it works for my i777 as well.
pinoymutt said:
At the very minimum I may just try and root using SuperOneClick -- does anyone know if the process uses the download mode or screws with the counter?
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Yes, for SOC to work you must use download mode to install an insecure or rooted kernel.
However, the counter does NOT count system image flashes as far as I can tell - so if you use my "stock + root" system package, you'll get root without increasing the counter or triggering the ! flag.
After that, you can flash a zImage on-device as follows using an ADB shell or terminal session:
Code:
dd if=zImage of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5
This will flash a custom kernel without triggering the custom kernel warning or increasing the counter.
pinoymutt said:
Interesting. My new SGSII is on it's way, but I am curious about this as well. I've got a jig for my cap that I'll try, but if all else fails, has anyone been able to confirm that flashing back to bone stock (via the Odin pack that is posted) will revert it back to normal (i.e. for warranty replacements)?
EDIT: I also just read another potentially disturbing article that there may be a second hidden counter that counts how many times that the counter has been reset: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117295&highlight=counter
I usually wouldn't care, but I've had to return my cap twice for warranty issues, and I wouldn't want to get screwed if I had a problem with my new one.
At the very minimum I may just try and root using SuperOneClick -- does anyone know if the process uses the download mode or screws with the counter?
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Oh my god counterception. This made me laugh hard in class, a counter that counts counter resets. DAMN!
This is scary though, and I don't want to flash without more info on this. I prefer to keep my warranty ATM. Had to warranty repair my Captivate once...
Entropy512 said:
After that, you can flash a zImage on-device as follows using an ADB shell or terminal session:
Code:
dd if=zImage of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5
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would this work in mac osx terminal?
which cwm zImage should i use?
EDIT:
I originally used the files found in THIS thread, using heimdall, but it gave me a yellow triangle'
RockRatt said:
The jig I had for my captivate does get rid of the yellow triangle. Just turned off phone, held down volume buttons, inserted jig, then it said count has been zeroed or something to that effect. I rebooted and yellow triangle was gone.
Sent from My KickAss Captivated CM7 OC'd 1.5Ghz/Undervolted
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I did the same... My Captivate Jig works fine
All I did was turn off the phone, plug in the Jig and wait... Waa laa
I refuse to root/flash until the secondary counter is figured out I really need my warranty active.
Haloruler64 said:
I refuse to root/flash until the secondary counter is figured out I really need my warranty active.
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I'm with you on that one. I'm really surprised that others have not picked up on it (or really understand the impact).
Maybe we're just overly cautious -- but this bad boy screams on stock (at least compared to my Captivate) so it's not so bad leaving it for the time being...

[Q] Chainfire's Triangle Away App

Hi all.
My SGS2 needs to be sent in for repairs in the imminent future, and in preparation I unrooted my phone and flashed a Stock ICS build (my carrier is Optus, Australia). Before this I was running a few different GB roms. When I boot my phone I do not get the yellow triangle (I assume this is because I am running official Samsung firmware), but if I put the phone into download mode, it still shows the 8 custom flashes I did earlier.
My real question is will Chainfire's Triangle Away app remove the binary count even if the triangle isn't there?
And a better question would be, would having official firmware be enough to still claim warranty, or would I need to have both official firmware and a "0" custom flash count?
Thanks for any help!
I believe Samsung may throw a stink about the counter, even if you are on stock/official firmware. This counter would imply that you have voided your warranty previous to the current state of the phone and it's OS
To be safe I would use the Triangle away app
EDIT: Yes, the app does reset the flash counter. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
Its always safe to clear the counter before returning it for service. yes the triangle away app will clear the counter with/without triangle.
download it for free from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
sdardz said:
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
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You are correct. Root the phone first, use the app, then unroot.
Thanks!
So it will still think it's Samsung official after that process?
You'll need a rooted ICS firmware already on your phone.
Check the Triangle Away forum to ensure its working with your firmware version.
Flash Triangle Away, this will remove Yellow Triangle and reset Custom Counter to 0.
Flash official unrooted firmware using Odin, this wont increase your Custom Counter as its official. Use a firmware thats specific to your region.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Job done.
Also check my sigi for links
Thanks! This forum is full of amazing help.
So theoretically I could follow those steps then flash the stock ROM a thousand times and the flash counter would remain at 0?
If it makes you feel any better I went to Optus 3 weeks ago with a phone that wouldn't turn on with ICS for another region with root and they fixed it.
I think my USB jig cleared the counter to 0 though. I couldn't connect my phone to dl mode or anything
The app removes the triangle as well as the counter
Yeah I tried using the jig a while ago but I think I have the newer bootloader, so it didn't do anything, which was very disappointing.
I'd just hate to take it in then have them tell me to get bent because I rom'ed it.
Ok so let me know if theres a problem with my process.
I'm using ICS and the kernel is XWLP4.
There was no LP4 in Chainfires thread but I read that I could use the next closest one. So I should flash something like "CF-Root-SGS2_XW_O2U_LP3-v5.4-CWM5.zip" and then triangle away then use the Optus stock ICS?
UPDAT: I tried this method and it worked perfectly! Thanks so much to everyone who helped.
has worked like a charm for me everytime i put stock firmwares on my phone
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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d3l1 said:
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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Or just flash the old bootloader.

ICS Root without flashing kernel or having recovery?

My friend has an S2 he wants me to root, and I'm having trouble.
I've tried the one click method from windows computers though they don't seem to work as he is on ICS.
The ICS alternative says reboot to recovery etc, though obviously he doesn't have recovery so I can't do that either.
Of course I'm going to be told to root it via flashing, though while following the guide, the phone soft-bricked and wouldn't turn on (yellow triangle) though luckily I found the Orange UK Restore Package and now it's back to stock!
When I tried to flash it said use the most similar kernel you can find, and so I did, and it didn't work!
The kernel he has is I9100PBVLP6 and there was not an insecure kernel of that available.
Can anyone help?
tomhurst said:
My friend has an S2 he wants me to root, and I'm having trouble.
I've tried the one click method from windows computers though they don't seem to work as he is on ICS.
The ICS alternative says reboot to recovery etc, though obviously he doesn't have recovery so I can't do that either.
Of course I'm going to be told to root it via flashing, though while following the guide, the phone soft-bricked and wouldn't turn on (yellow triangle) though luckily I found the Orange UK Restore Package and now it's back to stock!
When I tried to flash it said use the most similar kernel you can find, and so I did, and it didn't work!
The kernel he has is I9100PBVLP6 and there was not an insecure kernel of that available.
Can anyone help?
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Your friend has the UK Orange NFC phone. Use LP7 Insecure kernel.
http://download.chainfire.eu/158/CF-Root/SGS2/CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip?retrieve_file=1
You will have the yellow triangle after flashing and your binary flash counter would have increased by 1.
You can use triangle away to remove the symbol and reset the flash counter to zero.
Or have a look at the Root/Unroot guide in my signature.
Sent from my GT-I9100P using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
bored_stupid said:
Your friend has the UK Orange NFC phone. Use LP7 Insecure kernel.
You will have the yellow triangle after flashing and your binary flash counter would have increased by 1.
You can use triangle away to remove the symbol and reset the flash counter to zero.
Or have a look at the Root/Unroot guide in my signature.
Sent from my GT-I9100P using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
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That's brilliant! Thanks so much. I'll have to convince him to let me now. He doesn't want me going near his phone again haha
If your friend now doesn't want you to go to near his phone, let him root it himself or live with it the way it is.
Statements like "he obviously doesn't have recovery" when he obviously does lead me to believe you'll only damage his phone anyway.
bored_stupid said:
Your friend has the UK Orange NFC phone. Use LP7 Insecure kernel.
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So I just flash this under PDA? Will this give just root and no recovery?
oinkylicious said:
If your friend now doesn't want you to go to near his phone, let him root it himself or live with it the way it is.
Statements like "he obviously doesn't have recovery" when he obviously does lead me to believe you'll only damage his phone anyway.
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Why does he obviously have recovery? His phone is exactly how he got it. Unless they give you recovery now? I used to have a Spica (piece of crap) which I had to root in order to get recovery onto it. And he has no idea how to root and his phone is being slow and crashes a lot, so he wants to make it better, I told him a custom ROM would help.
tomhurst said:
So I just flash this under PDA? Will this give just root and no recovery?
Why does he obviously have recovery? His phone is exactly how he got it. Unless they give you recovery now? I used to have a Spica (piece of crap) which I had to root in order to get recovery onto it. And he has no idea how to root and his phone is being slow and crashes a lot, so he wants to make it better, I told him a custom ROM would help.
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All new or old S2s should have recovery albeit stock 3e recovery," if they have not installed another recovery ". Try it!
Power down. Then at the same time press:- volume up/home button/power button.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
tomhurst said:
his phone is being slow and crashes a lot, so he wants to make it better, I told him a custom ROM would help.
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You told him bogus information then.
tomhurst said:
My friend has an S2 he wants me to root, and I'm having trouble.
I've tried the one click method from windows computers though they don't seem to work as he is on ICS.
The ICS alternative says reboot to recovery etc, though obviously he doesn't have recovery so I can't do that either.
Of course I'm going to be told to root it via flashing, though while following the guide, the phone soft-bricked and wouldn't turn on (yellow triangle) though luckily I found the Orange UK Restore Package and now it's back to stock!
When I tried to flash it said use the most similar kernel you can find, and so I did, and it didn't work!
The kernel he has is I9100PBVLP6 and there was not an insecure kernel of that available.
Can anyone help?
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Head over to here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona, & find the specific firmware for your friends device & flash in PDA via Odin! (no need to find a seperate kernel to flash, as it will be included in the official firmware package!)
At this point you'll have no yellow triangle on your boot up splash screen, & no flash count!
Then head over to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719 & root the device using the instructions given! (you'll need an external sd-card in your device to put the files on for rooting!)
Still no yellow triangle on boot splash screen, & also no extra flash count!
Finally, install Triangle Away from here "IF NEEDED": https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en, & "MAKE SURE" it gives the exact same flash count number as is in download mode, then click "Reset Counter".
Job done, official stock firmware with root (fast, stable & reliable!) with no yellow triangle or flash count visible!
What Samsung official firmware site? Even if such a thing existed why would the custom binary counter go up? Think about it. Also, OP already made it clear he's incapable of following those root instructions, as he apparently (and obviously) doesn't have recovery.
oinkylicious said:
You told him bogus information then.
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What will help then? If you're going to put me down at least be constructive please.
tomhurst said:
What will help then? If you're going to put me down at least be constructive please.
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What will help before you potentially brick your friends phone is to read the stickies.
Stickies here
Hopefully you might learn the basics of rooting/unrooting and installing firmware before its to late
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
oinkylicious said:
What Samsung official firmware site? Even if such a thing existed why would the custom binary counter go up? Think about it. Also, OP already made it clear he's incapable of following those root instructions, as he apparently (and obviously) doesn't have recovery.
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tomhurst said:
What will help then? If you're going to put me down at least be constructive please.
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It's just his way, don't worry about it!
1: This samsung firmware site: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona
Obviously exists eh!
2: As I mentioned in my (helpfull!) post, the method I directed him to uses temporary "Touch CWM Recovery" for him to get into to root!
3: The method he tried was the oneclick method! That's not the method I directed him to! (try reading the post properly before commenting, as you've so graciously pointed out to me in the past!)
I hope this answers all of your descrepancies oinkylicious!
CrackDaddy said:
It's just his way, don't worry about it!
1: This official samsung firmware site: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona
Obviously exists eh!
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Actually Samfirmware.com is an unofficial site, not endorsed by Samsung at all.
although it is where to get the Samsung firmware's for all their phones.
bored_stupid said:
Actually Samfirmware.com is an unofficial site, not endorsed by Samsung at all.
although it is where to get the Samsung firmware's for all their phones.
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Fair enough, well I won't split ends with you & thanks for the usefull information bored_stupid!
1) not official
2) it wouldn't go up "AGAIN" after flashing official firmware. Writing wrong information in CAPS doesn't make it right
3) I know, see 4)
4) he tried both and fell at the first hurdle.
Any more? Come at me bro.
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1) not official
2) it wouldn't go up after flashing official firmware.
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I got the not official bit m8, get over yourself!
Really, I'm trying to help the bloke & all you can pick up on is "NOT OFFICIAL"?? please!
Any more? Come at me bro?? How old?...........
The more you post, the more foolish you look. Flashing an official binary from download mode will not increase your counter.
oinkylicious said:
The more you post, the more foolish you look. Flashing an official binary from download mode will not increase your counter.
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& you're job on here I take it is to try & make people look stupid huh?
Like I said, how old?
Tell me something? what increases your binary count oinkylicious?
Flashing an unofficial binary from download mode. Such as CF-root or any of the custom kernels.
I just don't like people spreading incorrect information.
oinkylicious said:
Flashing an unofficial binary from download mode.
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I stand corrected & edited your honour, at last, something creative to say
You's da man, whoop whoop!
he said the phone wouldn't boot & yellow triangle!
yellow triangle as far as I know= binary counter gone up!
Apart from using a jig, for which he'd also have to flash an older bootloader coz the phone's on ICS & it wouldn't work otherwise, what would you suggest to reset it?
Not false information I'm giving m8, just trying to be helpfull, & I can't see in what I originally posted how I wasn't trying to be helpfull really!? But you obviously can

[Q] Trip counter

Can someone explain to me what trip counter means? Where do I see if mine is tripped or not?
It is a counter on your phone that trips if you have installed custom firmware. Sorry to say I can't tell you where to look because I don't care about mine
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Trip Counter (Binary Download Counter)
1. Power off Phone
2. Hold Volume- (Down) and Home Key and Power at same time. Let phone boot. While holding all three keys.
3. Once in download mode press Volume+ (up)
Here you can see the counter.
Coustom Binary Download: No
Or
Coustom Binary Download: Yes (2 counts)
how ever many counts you have.
To exit hold power button for about 10 seconds. Then press again to power up phone. (Or Pull Battery)
No this will not trip counter.
is there any way to reset the counter?
dearbeloved said:
is there any way to reset the counter?
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not on the USA variants
djricekcn said:
not on the USA variants
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Triangle away doesn't work on the us variants?
Gadgetz said:
Triangle away doesn't work on the us variants?
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As far as I understand, no it doesn't work and if you try on the USA one, it could potentially brick your phone. I didn't want to take the risk so didn't use it, but I think the author himself said USA Variants not supported.
I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
dearbeloved said:
I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
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It'll keep going up unless if it's your carrier's official rom, and to be honest, once you get "1" I don't think it matters if you have "2" or "48190238102931"
dearbeloved said:
I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
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I'm no expert, but from all the reading I've done I have concluded that flashing non-Samsung content via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing a rom via CWM will not.
Gadgetz said:
I'm no expert, but from all the reading I've done I have concluded that flashing non-Samsung content via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing a rom via CWM will not.
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I can confirm that.
dasistsparta said:
I can confirm that.
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not doubting you but wanted to be sure if true for all roms and i guess maybe even carrier models? Some of the sites I read said other wise. Also, you need to raise the counter at least "1" time to get Root Access though, no?
which means we still need a reset app like the international ver. have.
..and what is max I can do ? Or does it matter if I have 500 counts? What is it for? Dees it hurt me in any kind of way?
mine says "custom binary download: yes (1 count)
I installed 2 roms (same rom just updated version)
djricekcn said:
not doubting you but wanted to be sure if true for all roms and i guess maybe even carrier models? Some of the sites I read said other wise. Also, you need to raise the counter at least "1" time to get Root Access though, no?
which means we still need a reset app like the international ver. have.
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Negative. I just rooted and installed CWM on my AT&T GS3 and my counter is still at 0. Flashing via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing through CWM doesn't. That being said, I'd imagine most if not all devs are going to make their roms flashable zips so we don't have to worry about the counter. I rooted via Odin but didn't trip the counter thanks to the devs who figured out a way to get around it. The thread is stickied in the AT&T dev forum.
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Negative. I just rooted and installed CWM on my AT&T GS3 and my counter is still at 0. Flashing via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing through CWM doesn't. That being said, I'd imagine most if not all devs are going to make their roms flashable zips so we don't have to worry about the counter. I rooted via Odin but didn't trip the counter thanks to the devs who figured out a way to get around it. The thread is stickied in the AT&T dev forum.
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well, i have tmo phone and my counter is currently at [1] so I need a reset somehow
djricekcn said:
well, i have tmo phone and my counter is currently at [1] so I need a reset somehow
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I don't think there's a method out to do that yet, sit tight.
..and what is max I can do ? Or does it matter if I have 500 counts? What is it for? Does it hurt me in any kind of way?
there's no max, its just a way of voiding warranty
So we need to brick our phone good enough that they cant read the counter to get warranty replacement???
once the counter is [1] or higher,you already voided your warranty...there's really no max out or loop back to [0]

[Q] Cannot access download mode after using triangle away

Apologies if this has been asked before, or if it is a noob question, but I couldn't find my exact problem on XDA or on Google.
I need to return my S3 for warranty purposes but it developed problems after rooting. I had rooted it using the Samsung Galaxy S3 Rootkit 4.0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488. I installed the insecure kernel but I did not yet install CWM or a custom ROM. I updated to BLG8 via Kies this morning.
Following the video guide on the sticky on the stock ROM page (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646610), I used Triangle Away to reset the binary count. This is where it went wrong.
I no longer have access download mode - it simply boots normally. I am pressing home, vol down then power. Without download mode, I cannot use ODIN to install stock firmware to return the device to stock and remove the modified tag. Could someone point me in the right direction?
Dou you haw recovery??flash rom from recovery.
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Thanks, but I didn't install recovery. Is it possible to install recovery without using download mode? Sorry, I'm new to the SG3 and I don't want to experiment without asking first while I'm in a stick situation
Try clockwork recovery from market
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try one of this:
1) pull battery, ready your finger at volume down, home, and power. then insert battery.
2) usb jig.
if successful, use cf-root to gain root, then try triangle again.
ascariz said:
try one of this:
1) pull battery, ready your finger at volume down, home, and power. then insert battery.
2) usb jig.
if successful, use cf-root to gain root, then try triangle again.
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You are a lifesaver. Method 1 has worked and I am in download mode. Fingers crossed that the rest of the process runs smoothly.
Edit: Great news, everything is back to stock. Status normal, flash counter 0. When I got into download mode, it showed that Triangle Away had worked so there was no need to repeat it. I have ordered a USB jig for a few £ - money well spent if it is ever needed.
seeding11 said:
You are a lifesaver. Method 1 has worked and I am in download mode. Fingers crossed that the rest of the process runs smoothly.
Edit: Great news, everything is back to stock. Status normal, flash counter 0. When I got into download mode, it showed that Triangle Away had worked so there was no need to repeat it. I have ordered a USB jig for a few £ - money well spent if it is ever needed.
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nice....i life saver for others, but i can't save for my galaxy ACE. damn stupid noob ace. lol.

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