Just bought SAMSUNG GALAXY S2, its an awesome device.
But i have few queries regarding it:
1} Can i format Internal Storage or Memory Card to NTfS format, i tried but i had to format it back to FAT32.
Has anyone tried this pls. hrlp me out.
'coz i have a movie in size 4.7GB, which is not being transfered to Device as FAT32, tell me ways how can i transfer it.
2} any good/recommended apps/games for this device ?
3} is rooting necessary ? & if i do rooting will it void my warranty ?
dharmil007 said:
Just bought SAMSUNG GALAXY S2, its an awesome device.
But i have few queries regarding it:
1} Can i format Internal Storage or Memory Card to NTfS format, i tried but i had to format it back to FAT32.
Has anyone tried this pls. hrlp me out.
'coz i have a movie in size 4.7GB, which is not being transfered to Device as FAT32, tell me ways how can i transfer it.
2} any good/recommended apps/games for this device ?
3} is rooting necessary ? & if i do rooting will it void my warranty ?
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1} Not sure, sorry.
2} Games; Angry birds, 9mm, cut the rope, NOVA 2, Chaos And Order Online.
2} Apps; Iris (Alpha), Voice Actions, Tiny LED Flashlight, Download All Files, Ttorrent, Archidroid, Mp3 Music Downloader PRO, Shazam.
3} Cracked Apps; Applanet, Blackmart Alpha, Pandapp, Snappz Market, Mobilism market
^ It honestly depends what you want though, Check out the top rated apps and games in the market place
3} No, it isn't necessary, but it does give you a few more features, personally I've rooted my device 3 times and I have to say, it's more trouble than it's worth. It does void your warrenty, yes, but you can un-void it (lol) by using a USB JIG (works on the old bootloader only - Android 2.3.3 (Doesn't work on 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 unless it has the old bootloader))
Agree with a post above, but I think, that rooted device is better.
Much more features than stock, especially this device and many awesome ROMs...
Personally I would keep the stock file system for the USB storage. Hit videohelp.com and get a tool to split your file if size restrictions are inhibiting. Just my opinion.
If you are around here you'll want to check out the superuser apps like root explorer, titanium backup or mybackup, BLN, and browse around for themes, apps and roms here. Get paid versions of everything if you want the proper experience.
Of course rooting will void your warranty and of course you should root your phone.
thanks everyone for replies
all of these apps/games can be downloaded through android market isnt it ??
after rooting can i get my warranty back ??
Can anyone pls tell me a good site from where i can get cracked apps/games for my device ??
& one more thing, i bought this device few hours ago & have put it on to charge but it gets heated up too much i dont know why.
can anyone tell me, it gets heated above the samsung logo near the earpiece & behind near the camera
NTFS is not supported. Work a round here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131924
Requires root.
No one here will give you links to warez sites.
Rooting will void your warranty, but removing it is easy, so you will get your warranty back.
The overheating issue, check your firmware and update to the later ones, should solve it.
dharmil007 said:
thanks everyone for replies
all of these apps/games can be downloaded through android market isnt it ??
after rooting can i get my warranty back ??
Can anyone pls tell me a good site from where i can get cracked apps/games for my device ??
& one more thing, i bought this device few hours ago & have put it on to charge but it gets heated up too much i dont know why.
can anyone tell me, it gets heated above the samsung logo near the earpiece & behind near the camera
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1. Yes.
2. Look at my first post.
3. Look at my first post.
4. That's normal and will fade away with a few charges.
Hey one More thing
Which is good method to root my phone ???
i m Thinking of using SuperONEClick, is it good ?
will it root my phone without any problems ???
&i also want that my data shoudnt be lost !!
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hi, i am new on the forum so hello to everyone. I joined as i have recently been given a Viewpad7 as a present. i only wanted a 7 inch tablet and didnt have the funds for an ipad/transformer etc, they were a bit on the large size.
i have read a bit about the device and have had a chance at trying it out at one of our local shops. it certainly was a lot faster and more sturdy that the storage options 7" device.
i may be interested in rooting the device and have read up a bit about it on various threads on this forum. i get 50% of what is being said but 50% goes over my head at the moment.
i have an htc android phone and one of the things that is really frustrating is the fact that the memory fills so quickly if you add too many apps. i have been told rooting a device will allow more apps as it allows install to the disc rather than the internal memory...i am presuming this will be the same for a tablet allbeit most have a larger internal memory??
i have heard that the android 2.2 is not great with tablets as it is designed really for the moblie phone? is this the case for the viewpad?
i am presuming that a rooted tablet can use slightly amended operating systems with some tweaks?
can anyone tell me what other benefits there are...
Gingerbreak sounds a good one from what i have read as it is based on the android 3 software...
if there isnt a need to root it i will carry on as is but if there are a lot of benefits i might as well root it when i first get it before i load anything onto it...i will have to learn some of the jargon like 'adb shell' to make sure i dont end up with a brick.....what are the risks in rooting and how often do things not turn out better?
sorry for all the questions....
atb
forgot to ask is there a youtube guide to rooting where i could watch someone going through the stages etc
Hi
Here is the link to video guide for rooting viewpad 7 (or variant like mine - commtiva lynx n700): http://www.techofweb.com/technology/root-viewsonic-viewpad-7-superoneclick.html
With rooted system you can actually do a lot of tweaks like flashing altered core, which will give you possibility to overclock a bit, it will also give the ability to install applications which can require root like Titanium Backup (total backup of all applications, their settings and data) and others.
With rooted device you can also change how your desktop looks, changing even notification icons or dialogue windows or buttons.
Then as you mentioned rooting opens a way to use cores which allows you to store applications, data and java machine cache to a partition on SD card (ext2, 3 or 4) and this will give you a way to install lot more apps than on non rooted tablet.
I can see a lot of benefits in rooting tablet, I have done it 2 days after purchasing n700. Installing new roms will not always give you a stable, fast working tablet, there are reboots sometimes for no apparent reason, there is sometimes a lot of fun flashing another rom and restoring all your apps and data and rearranging desktop to how is was.
What are the risks - if you start wisely and flash proper recovery first and do a system backup first - chances to brick your device permanently are slim. But if you start flashing a device with a new rom right away - you may end up with a non working device and a need to find a stock rom. Because before you can flash rom you must flash recovery, which gives you the ability to flash a rom designed for your device. I haven't read of anyone who bricked tablet when trying to root it.
I've heard about some stack with non working rom (boot loop) and asking for stock one. But there is always a way to flash non altered rom for your device (after flashing recovery which is kind of application like bios but without all those options to change device settings).
But behind all this, which is for altered pads lovers just a fun - you will have a device which is far more functional then the stock one.
Have fun
Jaredj
hi...i think i will root it at least, but not sure if i will bother with any of the roms. doesnt look like there are many available for this tablet, although i may be looking in the wrong places...
atb
rooted it...use the one click but it wouldnt do it with the latest so i used one of the older versions and it did it...
now...now that it is rooted can i get rid of any of the clutter like the stock browser and any of the other stuff i wont use as i will download other apps??
will titanium backup copy the whole system for me, i have seen a post about backing up the viewpad but it was using the command prompt and i am not confident doing this...what is the easiest way of doing a full backup in case i brick it??
atb
another question i have is will rooting the pad now mean that i can save more apps onto it...it is showing about 80mb of space left at the moment...if so how do i get it to save everything to my sd card?
atb
Another point....now i am getting into this device. i have copied some of my films onto disc to put in this... some mp4 some h.264 [i think] files both with mp3 audio but the player on the viewpad just says it cant play them...it hasnt opened any video files yet!!!!
atb
nothing seems to be working here...i have emailed viewsonic support and have now been told this unit only supports 3GP playback????????
atb
Install a better video player app, I use rockplayer myself to play avi files.
Further I would recommend you search and read the forums, there is a lot of info to be found and most of your questions will already have been answered in the past.
have now tried rockplayer but still no joy. it will play small files up to 70mb but anything bigger seems to bring the sorry cannot play video warning... have tried altering some of the settings in the 3GP format but still no joy. have also noticed it wont paly any of the youtube videos through the app at HQ, but it will play them all at a lower quality...really did want this to hold films to play on the move but as yet cannot seem to get them to play no matter which palyer... not sure if it may be a problem with the unit?
will do some more reading!!
atb
Hi,
I have bought a new HCL ME TABLET U1
Its specs are
Android 4.0.3
Cortex A8 1GHz
7 Inch , 800X400
512MB DDR3
Kernel :- 3.0.8
I want to root it.
Can someone suggect me any tool for it?
It does not have play me whereas it has it own market by the name hclme.
If i try to manually install using apk file. It does not work after installtion if i try to make it work it says application not resposnding.
Thats why i want to root it.
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6/29/2012
This tablet can be rooted.
Follow this link to get the rooting instructions
http://crazyfreakgamers.com/hclme/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=62
can suggest me something?
Hey
Hello sachin, I have a similar problem. I would recommend you please do not install non-hcl market apps in the tablet. I am just back from the service center. Deposited the tablet today. The internal memory has a write problem & no matter how much i tried, the settings & the non-market apps i installed are not removing/changing. The tablet is good but i am responsible for screwing it up. Have patience & let the developers release a custom rom or mod for the U1.
Cz| said:
Hello sachin, I have a similar problem. I would recommend you please do not install non-hcl market apps in the tablet. I am just back from the service center. Deposited the tablet today. The internal memory has a write problem & no matter how much i tried, the settings & the non-market apps i installed are not removing/changing. The tablet is good but i am responsible for screwing it up. Have patience & let the developers release a custom rom or mod for the U1.
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Well i am able to root it.
And soon i will be able to put custom rim as well.
Can you explain in detail what exactly happened with your tablet??
sachinsud said:
Well i am able to root it.
And soon i will be able to put custom rim as well.
Can you explain in detail what exactly happened with your tablet??
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It was the 4th day after the purchase. i installed everything i could in it through apk files. I once connected a 3g tata docomo stick in it & bamm!! It was blank! I read the manual & pressed the reset switch with a pin & it worked. The tab booted up & to my surprise no matter how much i tried i could not uninstall any of the applications, change any of the settings. As if it got write protected. Whenever i rebooted the tab it came back in the same state, read-only. The service center people are saying it maybe replaced. What do you think i should do? Does this have to do something with the root? I tried to install the 4 apk file google play setup (one by one install). I even connected it to the pc & formatted the inbuilt memory but it all came back astonishingly!
Cz| said:
It was the 4th day after the purchase. i installed everything i could in it through apk files. I once connected a 3g tata docomo stick in it & bamm!! It was blank! I read the manual & pressed the reset switch with a pin & it worked. The tab booted up & to my surprise no matter how much i tried i could not uninstall any of the applications, change any of the settings. As if it got write protected. Whenever i rebooted the tab it came back in the same state, read-only. The service center people are saying it maybe replaced. What do you think i should do? Does this have to do something with the root? I tried to install the 4 apk file google play setup (one by one install). I even connected it to the pc & formatted the inbuilt memory but it all came back astonishingly!
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Hmm,
Have you tried to factory data reset?
Tried that a lot of times. no luck! Its a lemon now. Lets see if HCL replaces it. I know it could be my fault. Do you think installing the apps has done this? I think the 3g dongle has something to do with this? or maybe it was a defective piece. I am waiting for their call. Lets see what happens
Cz| said:
Tried that a lot of times. no luck! Its a lemon now. Lets see if HCL replaces it. I know it could be my fault. Do you think installing the apps has done this? I think the 3g dongle has something to do with this? or maybe it was a defective piece. I am waiting for their call. Lets see what happens
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Well i have 40+ apps downloaded but i have not faced this issue..
I have not tried dongle yet..
Hmm thats a sad situation.
Can you tell me what all you tried putting and removing since u bought this tab??
Like rooting. and apps and what kind of mods u tried does not matter they passed or failed.
Let me know .
Yes i was surprised it got screwed. things like these dont happen in androids. Anyways i am thinking it was a defective piece.
I installed the step by step four apk android market installer, another normal google play .apk file, all sorts of apps from apktops.com etc. It was working fine. It just got hanged once when i plugged in the stick & after resetting it from that position everything went wrong after that. as if the tab went into read-only mode. I could not change the settings or remove/install any apps. After every reboot it went back into that state. I think it has something to do with encrypt. Check you tab settings & tell me what do you think about encrypt??
The service center people are yet to call me. I hope they replace it.
Once it also gave me an error like "key chain not responding" or something. After that is got screwed.
Cz| said:
Yes i was surprised it got screwed. things like these dont happen in androids. Anyways i am thinking it was a defective piece.
I installed the step by step four apk android market installer, another normal google play .apk file, all sorts of apps from apktops.com etc. It was working fine. It just got hanged once when i plugged in the stick & after resetting it from that position everything went wrong after that. as if the tab went into read-only mode. I could not change the settings or remove/install any apps. After every reboot it went back into that state. I think it has something to do with encrypt. Check you tab settings & tell me what do you think about encrypt??
The service center people are yet to call me. I hope they replace it.
Once it also gave me an error like "key chain not responding" or something. After that is got screwed.
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It seems like that you encrypted your tab first and then during reset it might have changed the file settings to read only mode.
Dont worry its a software issue, they will fix it.
May be its a glitch with their software only. May be they have not done the proper testing before releasing the tab out in the market.
What i would suggest dont think its ur mistake tell them its their mistake.
Dont tell them you downloaded apps from different source.
Hopefully everything should be fine.
Can you tell me
1)Were you able to use google play market properly?
2)Did u face this issue that if you run some apps the screen goes upside down. I mean to say we have ME written at the top and when i run some apps the screen needs to be rotated 180 degrees to make it run properly.
I dont think the service center people have enough knowledge about the new tablet. I had a talk with their technician & he said it might be replaced. I was expecting it as its a new launch & its ICS. actually i saved a few apk files on the internal memory & as you know no matter how much i tired i cannot delete them. So that is worrying me as they will find out & confront me for the same.
Google play did worked but whenever i tried to install any app from it, it crashed & then didnt run again (until reinstall) & i got the error message "stopped unexpectedly" or something. I guess it needed root access because the tab was not permitting any non-hcl market apps to run on it.
And for your 2nd question, maybe that did happen but i didnt realize it because i used the tab just for 3 days & its hard to recall what i did.
Cz| said:
I dont think the service center people have enough knowledge about the new tablet. I had a talk with their technician & he said it might be replaced. I was expecting it as its a new launch & its ICS. actually i saved a few apk files on the internal memory & as you know no matter how much i tired i cannot delete them. So that is worrying me as they will find out & confront me for the same.
Google play did worked but whenever i tried to install any app from it, it crashed & then didnt run again (until reinstall) & i got the error message "stopped unexpectedly" or something. I guess it needed root access because the tab was not permitting any non-hcl market apps to run on it.
And for your 2nd question, maybe that did happen but i didnt realize it because i used the tab just for 3 days & its hard to recall what i did.
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Thanks! It means google play never worked. Actually in order to make it work it needs to be installed using the rom installation and some files needs to be changed as well to make it work.
As far as hcl support is concerned , all i can say they are horrible , i spoke to a tech support guy and he said i can install any app using google he wanted to say if the app is not there in the market i can download it from google with the extension apk and i can use it . he also confirmed it would not void the warranty .
I asked him for pc software and guess what he said. Sir you find the software on google. Then i told him to share the link then he gave some sendspace link which was not working. As i am working and i dont have access to the tablet right now. They were insisting on the serial number of the tablet which i was not carrying while i was calling them up.
Dont worry about your tab , it willl be fine.
I am looking for someone who can help me in rooting this device. it seems like this tab is not rooted yet. I have an app root check it says device is rooted but when i go to cache folder its all empty and when i try to go there using shell it says access denied.
ANY developer here who is willing to help us???
I can give Team viewer access along with tab connected and a a coffee or beer anything the developer likes.
can`t root this devica. plz help
I`m also having same kind of problems. Can`t run google play on it. I have tried to root with z4root, and with some other tools. But nothing worked. plz help.
Guys,
I have contacted one of the developers to make root software for this.
I have told them i will pay them 10 dollars, if you want to contribute something to that developer then let me know. I will pass your message to him.
As far as the progress is concerned. i have given him the dump of my tab.
Lets see
Thats great sachin. Am still waiting for my tab. Didnt get any call from HCL. They told me it will take about a week for replacement. Lets standby & wait for my one to arrive.
Guys,
Good news!!
I have got a reply from the dev team and they are saying it would be relatively easy to root it.
I have given them system dump + system.txt file
They working on it.
Guys,
I have created a fb page where we can share it on larger space.
Like it
http://www.facebook.com/HclMeU1Tablet
sachinsud said:
Guys,
I have contacted one of the developers to make root software for this.
I have told them i will pay them 10 dollars, if you want to contribute something to that developer then let me know. I will pass your message to him.
As far as the progress is concerned. i have given him the dump of my tab.
Lets see
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Can i have the dump of your device?
akhilkapila said:
Can i have the dump of your device?
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Sure
http://crazyfreakgamers.com/dump.zip
Click this link to download the dump
any update?
i would really like an update on this??
its very hard rooting the u1.. i havent found a method yet..
superoneclick doesnt work... z4root doesnt work.. unlockroot doesnt work
HELP
Hi. I've only rooted one phone successfully before, the Nexus One and have had no need to root the Galaxy Nexus. I have pre-ordered the Nexus 7 & doubt I'd need to root that either. I like stock Android with no bloatware.
I've purchased an Archos G9 101 Turbo which only has 8gb flash. I didn't want the pricier and way heavier 250gb SSD model. However, 8gb is very little when I want to mainly use it to store video data and digital comics which take up a lot of room. I put in a 32gb micro sd to expand my storage but realistically all that will allow me to do in Android 4.0+ is store pictures, music, etc there which I won't do with this tablet.
What I need is to be able to store app data to it like you could in prior versions of Android. Since the new software works much like iOS in that everything shares the remaining memory that the OS doesn't take up, I can understand why they are starting to not put micro sd slots in. But if they aren't going to, more flash needs to be added.
So ... I understand that there are tools such as Directory Bind that I've seen links on here discussing it for other devices that users want the same thing I want it for --
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536568
I also recognize that in order to accomplish this, I need root permission. I don't have need for a custom rom as the archos is fairly close to stock but I would like to remove some bloatware and utilize an app like directory bind to re-direct my apps to store their data on the micro sd I installed. Digital comic books take up a lot of room but if I could make the app store the data on the micro sd, this would alleviate my problem.
Having explained the above, can someone please kindly assist me with a thread or tell me directly the following;
1) How to root the gen 9 101.
2) If I root, do I HAVE to have a custom recovery and ROM?
3) Once I root, is Directory Bind the best solution for moving app data to the micro sd and if not, what is?
I'd really appreciate guidance on this as I don't want to brick the Archos 101 G9. It wasn't a terribly expensive & high quality device but since they bumped it to 1gb ram, it runs pretty smooth for what I need ... to bad they didn't include more RAM!! Regardless, I'm willing to root this one & use it as my play device.
Thanks in advance for any help. I did search thru the forums before posting but there was o much information I wasn't sure which avenue to take.
myke115 said:
Hi. I've only rooted one phone successfully before, the Nexus One and have had no need to root the Galaxy Nexus. I have pre-ordered the Nexus 7 & doubt I'd need to root that either. I like stock Android with no bloatware.
I've purchased an Archos G9 101 Turbo which only has 8gb flash. I didn't want the pricier and way heavier 250gb SSD model. However, 8gb is very little when I want to mainly use it to store video data and digital comics which take up a lot of room. I put in a 32gb micro sd to expand my storage but realistically all that will allow me to do in Android 4.0+ is store pictures, music, etc there which I won't do with this tablet.
What I need is to be able to store app data to it like you could in prior versions of Android. Since the new software works much like iOS in that everything shares the remaining memory that the OS doesn't take up, I can understand why they are starting to not put micro sd slots in. But if they aren't going to, more flash needs to be added.
So ... I understand that there are tools such as Directory Bind that I've seen links on here discussing it for other devices that users want the same thing I want it for --
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536568
I also recognize that in order to accomplish this, I need root permission. I don't have need for a custom rom as the archos is fairly close to stock but I would like to remove some bloatware and utilize an app like directory bind to re-direct my apps to store their data on the micro sd I installed. Digital comic books take up a lot of room but if I could make the app store the data on the micro sd, this would alleviate my problem.
Having explained the above, can someone please kindly assist me with a thread or tell me directly the following;
1) How to root the gen 9 101.
2) If I root, do I HAVE to have a custom recovery and ROM?
3) Once I root, is Directory Bind the best solution for moving app data to the micro sd and if not, what is?
I'd really appreciate guidance on this as I don't want to brick the Archos 101 G9. It wasn't a terribly expensive & high quality device but since they bumped it to 1gb ram, it runs pretty smooth for what I need ... to bad they didn't include more RAM!! Regardless, I'm willing to root this one & use it as my play device.
Thanks in advance for any help. I did search thru the forums before posting but there was o much information I wasn't sure which avenue to take.
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Hi!
...because Archos is not a classical device ....you need to perform few steps !!!
1. You need to install ( enable) SDE menu ! please go here & press Thanks to Shano56 , for enable SDE , how prepar your device for root & ...
2. You can download & install the last Archos firmware 4.0.7 (4.0.3) - Root version ( is the same version with official Archos but with root access !) here !
3. You can not move app on micoSD ...for this you need to perform some aditional steps !
3. After you have installed SDE, you can install Custom Rom !!!
( I will upload soon the Root version ~ 1hour !) :good:
Good luck !
surdu_petru said:
Hi!
...because Archos is not a classical device ....you need to perform few steps !!!
1. You need to install ( enable) SDE menu ! please go here & press Thanks to Shano56 , for enable SDE , how prepar your device for root & ...
2. You can download & install the last Archos firmware 4.0.7 (4.0.3) - Root version ( is the same version with official Archos but with root access !) here !
3. You can not move app on micoSD ...for this you need to perform some aditional steps !
3. After you have installed SDE, you can install Custom Rom !!!
( I will upload soon the Root version ~ 1hour !) :good:
Good luck !
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Thanks for the help. I don't know if I'll get it right and definitely don't want to brick the tablet so I hope you don't mind if I might have another question as I go along.
BTW ... I do not want to put my apps on the micro sd, just the app data only. The apps themselves hardly take up any room but if you read alot of books from different apps (Nook, Kindle, Kobo, Play) and read a lot of digital comics via an app like Comixology, the data they store will eat up what little memory is available of the G9 101 with it only having 8gb. That's why it's so important to find a way to do that and the Directory Bind app looks like it might solve that issue. Comixology especially creates a lot of data with the downloaded comics. I just don't want to constantly have to delete comics or books from any of my apps just to make room for more. IF I can get the G9 working where the apps recognize their data stored on the 32gb micro sd card I installed, then I'll have plenty of room for what I need and can download more books and comic books than I could read in a year. The "cloud" is fine for some things but I don't want to trust it with my entire reading library.
I will follow the steps you outlined from the links noted and let you know my progress.
-- Will I need a custom ROM or can I just use the rooted Archos ROM you referred to and if so, will it still get OTA updates which Archos is frankly way better with than the likes of Motorola??
-- Have you personally had any success with the DirectoryBind app that forces an app to relocate data to the microsd? I see mixed results from several threads and from a web article. Here's a few:
http://www.jayceooi.com/2012/06/25/how-to-move-applications-games-data-to-external-sd-card/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536568
One other quick question: what are the advantages of using a custom ROM for the Archos G9 101?
For starters. I am a Nook noob and I am not affraid to admit it.
I have read, read, read, and then read some more about rooting, roms, CWM, CM, and so on and I did puzzle most of the pieces together, but not all.
If I got it right there basically are 3 different roms one can choose for the NT:
Stock rom (the original state)
Stock rom Rooted
Alternate roms: CM (7,8,9), MIUI or any other variation of Android firmware distribution
The usage distribution of the roms can be found in a poll here.
Stock (original) limits you in using full potential of the NT, which typically means that you can not use Google Drive, install/use any apps other then the ones Nook market provides. You can not put apps on the home screen, use any widgets and you are very limited in what you can alterate on the system.
Stock Rooted is the state in which that you are still using the original firmware, however you now have root acces. This means that you have acces to Google Drive and are able to install/use most of the apps on Google Drive on your NT. You can use various launchers to access these apps and can set a launcher as default instead of the original launcher.
The easiest way to get here is by rooting your NT through an SD card. You only need the SD card for the rooting process. The (rooted) firmware remains on the internal memory of the NT.
In this, you:
Still have acces to all the original Nook apps and features (you are still using the original Nook system)
You have the possibility to UNroot the device and turn it fully back to it's original state
What I am not sure about is:
Can you use / place apps on the home screen?
Can you use / place widgets on the home screen?
Are there any other important differences between Stock (original) and Stock Rooted?
When going for an alternate rom, you have a diversity of choices, but all are fully seperate roms, that either replaces the original firmware or complements it (dual boot). What you get in return is a fully functional, tweakable Android system, on which the version depends on the rom that you choose. You can access Google Drive, install/use most apps, place widgets, use different launchers, etc.
The easiest way to get here is by using a SD card. I can not find the specific topic that explains the procedure though. It seems that you can choose to maintain the original firmware and place the rom on the (external) SD, which leaves you with a dual boot system, or you can replace the stock rom with the custom rom.
In this, you:
Loose usage of all of the NT's orininal apps and features (when using the custom rom)
What I am not sure about is:
Where in the process you can choose to either place the custom rom on the (external) SD or install in the internal memory.
Are there any other important differences between Stock Rooted and custom rom?
My main question is: Can you confirm my findings and help me answer the questions/uncertainties?
I can imagine this thread would be of help to others who spent a lot of time reading, but are left with some basic questions. That is why I took my time writing it.
When you use the sd card method, I use a cm7 card when I boot the tablet with the card it boots up as a regular android tablet. It's does not install anything permanently to the tablet. I get full google play. Like I said no nook software at all just android tablet. I use the nook app if I want to read. It has the cool page turn animation the nook software does not go figure. Take out root sd card turn off and turn it back on with no sd card or an unpacked sd card, it boots up just like it came out of the box. All app installs music anything put on the nook with the hacked card in it goes on the card. You have no access to the nooks memory except ram which gets cleared as soon as u restart it. As long as the hacked sd card is not in it there's no way for anyone to tell you've done anything to it, cuz u haven't it all stays on the sd card. Performance is great I play 3D games like mad trigger with no lag, it's the best of both worlds & only way to go if u ask me. I don't know why anyone would do anything els. It's just to easy. Hope that helped.
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4g
Thread moved. While I appreciate the effort you've put into this post by reading up and finding out about all the different ROM's, you need to also look to make sure you post in the correct sections of the forum and this is also stated in the sticky in the General section, not to post questions in General. If your thread is a question/multiple questions and you even tick the "Is this a question box" when creating the thread then you must post it in the relevant Q&A section.
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AvRS
hd2joel said:
When you use the sd card method, I use a cm7 card when I boot the tablet with the card it boots up as a regular android tablet. It's does not install anything permanently to the tablet. I get full google play. Like I said no nook software at all just android tablet. I use the nook app if I want to read. It has the cool page turn animation the nook software does not go figure. Take out root sd card turn off and turn it back on with no sd card or an unpacked sd card, it boots up just like it came out of the box. All app installs music anything put on the nook with the hacked card in it goes on the card. You have no access to the nooks memory except ram which gets cleared as soon as u restart it. As long as the hacked sd card is not in it there's no way for anyone to tell you've done anything to it, cuz u haven't it all stays on the sd card. Performance is great I play 3D games like mad trigger with no lag, it's the best of both worlds & only way to go if u ask me. I don't know why anyone would do anything els. It's just to easy. Hope that helped.
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4g
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Thanks, that helps indeed. So basically you only use the CM7 rom, and neglect the stocked software. Sounds like an attractive approach. Thouh it is a bit of a shame that the 8 or 16 GB of internal storage are not usable then.
@AvRS: I did read the section about no questions in the General Forum's policy. I actually thought I posted in the Q&A but appearantly I didn't. I probably started the thread just before I read that part. Thanks for moving it to the proper section.
chris996 said:
What I am not sure about is:
Can you use / place apps on the home screen?
Can you use / place widgets on the home screen?
Are there any other important differences between Stock (original) and Stock Rooted?
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For the first point: Not on firmware 1.4.3, but on lower firmwares you can download an app called Nook Color App Manager (you have to side-load it as it is not in the Play store) that will allow you to do just that.
For the second point: You cannot place widgets on the Stock launcher. You have to install an alternate launcher for widgets.
Also, I think you mean Google Play, not Google Drive.
chris996 said:
Thanks, that helps indeed. So basically you only use the CM7 rom, and neglect the stocked software. Sounds like an attractive approach. Thouh it is a bit of a shame that the 8 or 16 GB of internal storage are not usable then.
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Unless you re-partition your Nook, you never have access to the full 8/16GB. You only have access to the 1GB MyNook partition. You have to re-partition (or have a B&N store do it for you) to get more space for user apps.
Ok guys, thanks for all the answers. A lot more is clear now, but definately not all. Also, yes I mean Google Play / Not Drive (doh, my bad)
As I read more and more, it becomes clear to me that all the information about rooting the Nook is soooooo spread and unorganised. It is nearly impossible to make an informed choice without having to spent hours and hours of reading the forums.
Just now for example, after a total of 2-3 hours reading the forums, it came to my attention that there is a big difference between the 8GB and 16 GB NT and that some rooting procedures can brick the NT8.
Anyway, on with the questions:
It seems that the latest version CM10, is the one that currently has most of the attention and most of the development resources go to this. Is this version now steady? Also for N8GB? Are there still big issues, like: no microphone working, sudded reboots, crashes, etc?
I read that CM9 is no longer being develloped. Is this version steady now? Also for NT 8GB? With a working microphone, no sudden crashes, reboots, etc.? Or was it abandoned while unfinished?
How about CM7? Same questions as the above.
So basically, even afters hours of reading, I still have not figured out which version would be best to use for my 8GB NT, if I want full Android functionality, but with everything working steady (also microphone) and avoid any big issues.
Hope you guys can shine some (more) light on this.
chris996 said:
Ok guys, thanks for all the answers. A lot more is clear now, but definately not all. Also, yes I mean Google Play / Not Drive (doh, my bad)
As I read more and more, it becomes clear to me that all the information about rooting the Nook is soooooo spread and unorganised. It is nearly impossible to make an informed choice without having to spent hours and hours of reading the forums.
Just now for example, after a total of 2-3 hours reading the forums, it came to my attention that there is a big difference between the 8GB and 16 GB NT and that some rooting procedures can brick the NT8.
Anyway, on with the questions:
It seems that the latest version CM10, is the one that currently has most of the attention and most of the development resources go to this. Is this version now steady? Also for N8GB? Are there still big issues, like: no microphone working, sudded reboots, crashes, etc?
I read that CM9 is no longer being develloped. Is this version steady now? Also for NT 8GB? With a working microphone, no sudden crashes, reboots, etc.? Or was it abandoned while unfinished?
How about CM7? Same questions as the above.
So basically, even afters hours of reading, I still have not figured out which version would be best to use for my 8GB NT, if I want full Android functionality, but with everything working steady (also microphone) and avoid any big issues.
Hope you guys can shine some (more) light on this.
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Answers:
1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
Number 3 update
Just one update on part of the question, answer to 3); Magicjack app works on it.
ShinnAsuka said:
Answers:
1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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ShinnAsuka said:
Answers:
1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
"Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?" Nope, rooted not rooted on any version will not support direct Skype or Video conferencing app that I know of on NT. This may change once OTG is implemented in future development.
chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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for your first question, there is an SD version but it has not been confirmed to work with NT 8GB
You can however make your own internal sd card version using the internal version provided here and instructions that are listed over a succulent's blog: www.iamafanof.wordpress.com
if you aren't all too tech savvy, I would advise against making your own bootable SD, but if want to experiment and learn a thing or two, go for it!
chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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There are instructions on how to install/create your own SD Card version of any ROM, you just have to try it out.
Skype isn't supported at all. It will install (according to the Play Store online) on my JB (AOKP) NT16, but I don't think it will run. For one thing, there's no camera or camera support.
Which rom can i call with viber or skype??? I used viber on Cm7 but i just can send text message,and when i call i cant hear or talk with anyone:what::what::what:
Cant anybody help me???
Sent from my Nook Tablet using xda premium
BadKid3011 said:
Which rom can i call with viber or skype??? I used viber on Cm7 but i just can send text message,and when i call i cant hear or talk with anyone:what::what::what:
Cant anybody help me???
Sent from my Nook Tablet using xda premium
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Why not use Magicjack for voip, it free unless you want to get the dongle for less than $30. With video conferencing app like skype, you can only text but what the point of that.
Hi.
I do not know in which sub forum must post this request. please move this request to associated sub forum.
problem about galaxy tab a t285
Please teach, how we can:
1) root
2) unroot
3) how to unlock external sd card for APPs
Thanks
Hi,
I just purchased this tablet. I've search the web but am unable to find a method to root this device. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Galaxy Tab A (2016) SM-T285
venomrat said:
Hi,
I just purchased this tablet. I've search the web but am unable to find a method to root this device. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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I made a similar assuming that I can still root and install custom rom on Samsung device and went ahead with the purchase of the same machine--the cheaper 8 gigs model that came with 7 of those 8 gigs already used by core files, and manufacturer apps which are basically bloatware. I didn't even bother to ask the dealer because I just figured ROOT and problem solved. Unfortunately not. After going through the usual developers sites, I am reading that new Samsung devices are distributed with the Bootloader being locked. Until there is a solution to unlock the bootloader, then I am assuming we can't do anything about this. If not, my questions is: Is there any way to reformat/reinstall or some method of getting those precious memory back? Taking up 7 of the 8 gigs is absurd.
All the apps I've installed have been moved to the external SD. However, the Internal memory still show: Apps 2.9GB, Others: 4.06GB (only showing 550MB thumbdata, DCIM 552MB) which tells me Samsung has installed bloatware that doesn't show up on the cleaning/maintenance apps available in the PlayStore. There must be something that can be done--anyone have a suggestion?
I'm facing the same problem too.
Why would Samsung had such device?
I had actually moved away from Samsung but last month bought this SM-T285 just to play games.
Only manage to keep few games and has the notification "Storage space running out some system functions may not work" permanently lighted.
typical consumer I am...
jkgtan said:
I'm facing the same problem too.
Why would Samsung had such device?
I had actually moved away from Samsung but last month bought this SM-T285 just to play games.
Only manage to keep few games and has the notification "Storage space running out some system functions may not work" permanently lighted.
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So as a typical consumer without an alternative of rooting, I decided to play their game--move the Apps to the SD card using the options in /Settings/Apps --this is the most helpful. Then also using a maintenance/ clean up app to complement Smart Manager is also helpful. Smart Booster is one I use. There are "bloatware" apps Samsung installed on the phone that you can uninstall and disable. This helps to. Using all of the above methods, I was able to retrieve an additional 1Gb back! It's a big deal when dealing with this device.
Please keep nagging Samsung about this-- We want the bootloader unlocked because by locking it up they are essentially slowing down progress--right?
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Post your queries here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/galaxy-tab-a
This device cannot be rooted at the moment.
All my methods have been unsuccessful so far due to the locked bootloader and Samsungs root restrictions.
However I have a customized debloated rom available.
If there is something specific you require in this rom post at the link above.
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bking43 said:
So as a typical consumer without an alternative of rooting, I decided to play their game--move the Apps to the SD card using the options in /Settings/Apps --this is the most helpful. Then also using a maintenance/ clean up app to complement Smart Manager is also helpful. Smart Booster is one I use. There are "bloatware" apps Samsung installed on the phone that you can uninstall and disable. This helps to. Using all of the above methods, I was able to retrieve an additional 1Gb back! It's a big deal when dealing with this device.
Please keep nagging Samsung about this-- We want the bootloader unlocked because by locking it up they are essentially slowing down progress--right?
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Not sure why you state this device takes up 7gb of its storage as it doesn't take anywhere near that as stock on the T280.