Here is a link to a script that makes your phone smoother and less laggy. It works for all phones and is easy to install. Everything you need is here in this link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Please tell others what settings worked best for you.
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This script was not written for high end devices such as this one... Or anything with a dual core CPU... You might see a difference using a single core but this script was written for Ram management on lower end devices and devices with little ram... Using on a 1.5Ghz dualcore phone with 1GB of ram might imo be a waste of time...
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Mrperf3ct said:
This script was not written for high end devices such as this one... Or anything with a dual core CPU... You might see a difference using a single core but this script was written for Ram management on lower end devices and devices with little ram... Using on a 1.5Ghz dualcore phone with 1GB of ram might imo be a waste of time...
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Thanks for letting me know
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I used to use this on my G2x, my quadrants and all benchmarks JUMPED with it, and worked REALLY well for it. But with the Amaze (I've already used it etc etc) I don't see any difference, the amaze's amount of ram is probably a big contributor to that fact but also probably the version of Android also, as my G2x was running 2.3.3....
hiazn said:
I used to use this on my G2x, my quadrants and all benchmarks JUMPED with it, and worked REALLY well for it. But with the Amaze (I've already used it etc etc) I don't see any difference, the amaze's amount of ram is probably a big contributor to that fact but also probably the version of Android also, as my G2x was running 2.3.3....
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It's the ram and the cpu the g2x is a 1Ghz dualcore we have 1.5Ghz dualcore the g2x only has a couple hundred MBs or ram amaze is 1GB... And that's why u see no improvement...
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Mrperf3ct said:
It's the ram and the cpu the g2x is a 1Ghz dualcore we have 1.5Ghz dualcore the g2x only has a couple hundred MBs or ram amaze is 1GB... And that's why u see no improvement...
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I thought that's what I said.. hehehe probably not so much the CPU though as the script only modifies ram management.
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Mrperf3ct said:
This script was not written for high end devices such as this one... Or anything with a dual core CPU... You might see a difference using a single core but this script was written for Ram management on lower end devices and devices with little ram... Using on a 1.5Ghz dualcore phone with 1GB of ram might imo be a waste of time...
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Ya... explain that to dual core Atrix users...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574&highlight=supercharger&page=221
Comments such as "it's pretty mind blowing" probably warrants investigation despite recommendations from people who have never tried it.
Oh... and the lower end device cannot choose this option:
Code:
9. 1000HP Super UnLedded{6,12,200,225,250,300}
Since it's designed for high end devices too, I prevent low end devices from going too over the top
zeppelinrox said:
Ya... explain that to dual core Atrix users...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574&highlight=supercharger&page=221
Comments such as "it's pretty mind blowing" probably warrants investigation despite recommendations from people who have never tried it.
Oh... and the lower end device cannot choose this option:
Code:
9. 1000HP Super UnLedded{6,12,200,225,250,300}
Since it's designed for high end devices too, I prevent low end devices from going too over the top
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Whoa newer version then I have currently, thanks Zep. Hah I don't have that option.. haven't checked for a long while I guess. I'm gonna go try it, yay.
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Cool feel free to post your findings
zeppelinrox said:
Ya... explain that to dual core Atrix users...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574&highlight=supercharger&page=221
Comments such as "it's pretty mind blowing" probably warrants investigation despite recommendations from people who have never tried it.
Oh... and the lower end device cannot choose this option:
Code:
9. 1000HP Super UnLedded{6,12,200,225,250,300}
Since it's designed for high end devices too, I prevent low end devices from going too over the top
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Ay smart guy they don't have a full gig of ram... You will not see any difference in performance on this device and thats why the EVo 3D didn't waste their time on it...
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Doesn't matter.
"Gurus" always say the same thing... last time it was that it won't do anything on a device with 512MB of ram...
How much ram does a SGS II have, smart guy?
Actually, seems the specs are close to this device... so here you go...
Android Spin article... author is using the SGS II
http://androidspin.com/2011/11/02/v6-supercharger-the-android-memory-fixer/
Bookmark it so you can read it whenever your phone lags
It's nice to see that people still don't get the concept of "work smarter, not harder" because it makes it easier for those that do work smarter to get ahead.
My settings don't "stick" after a reboot, and the help file is blank, 0 bytes.
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Did you run the latest update 9 RC3.2?
If not, use that.
Pretty sure that problem doesn't happen anymore with the newest versions.
no, I was using version 8, but I'll give the new one a try. thanks for the reply
Ok cool... there are alot more options so if you're unsure about what an option does, just select it and it will give an explanation before it does anything.
Related
So I've been wondering does keeping it oc at 1.2ghz damage anything to the phone? I've read that it can kill your device lifespan is that true? Thanks
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If your device can't handle it... Yes
xriderx66 said:
If your device can't handle it... Yes
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hey rider...what you mean by that ..like when it hard freezes or what ?
I assume the vibrant can handle the 1.2ghz with ease?
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bosina said:
hey rider...what you mean by that ..like when it hard freezes or what ?
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I assume the vibrant can handle the 1.2ghz with ease?
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Not exactly.
Some of the Vibrants just can't handle ANY overclocking at all, they just freeze, and reboot too much because your processor is being worked too hard when it can't do it.
If you have a normal, regular vibrant, then yeah you can such as me, i can overclock as much as i want, i've gone to 1.4 with no problems...
but some people do have the problem, and having that can burn the plastic in your phone (its happened to a few over the year)
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Not exactly.
Some of the Vibrants just can't handle ANY overclocking at all, they just freeze, and reboot too much because your processor is being worked too hard when it can't do it.
If you have a normal, regular vibrant, then yeah you can such as me, i can overclock as much as i want, i've gone to 1.4 with no problems...
but some people do have the problem, and having that can burn the plastic in your phone (its happened to a few over the year)
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Yep.
Mine can run at 1.4 EASY with no heating up at all (I was surprised).
I wish there was a 1.6+ kernel, so I could push this processor to the max.
To understand the limits of the Vibrant's processor it's important to understand processors in general.
The process of manufacturing for a processor is not perfect. You get pristine chips and below standard chips; so essentially no two processors are the same just like fingerprints. So what they do for quality control is stress test each one individually within a specific range. If it can handle 1Ghz up to 1.x then it passes, if it can't hit 1Ghz minimum then it's destroyed/recycled (or whatever numbers Samsung in this case felt were reasonable). It's the only way to ensure every device functions the same.
Now translate that into people's individual phone. In essence it's the luck of the draw. Did you get the perfect manufactured chip? Only way to tell is to over clock it and stress test it. Some people get the perfect one, and others get the ones that barely made the cut. It works the same for all electronics.
Hope this information helped.
---Giddy Ninja
I am not familiar with android os, so i wanted to ask people who have some knowledge behind it a question.
What do you see improving with the thunderbolt when gingerbread gets released?
Do you think the thunderbolt will be able to improve its chances to still stand out against the dual-core phones with the help of 2.3?
I love my thunderbolt, it is my very first Android OS device and i am glad to be an early adopter of the 4g LTE network, i do personally feel that i put myself in a rough position because i chose a phone with a single core. Should i feel this way?
Thanks XDA, i've spent so many hours learning about phones in general on this board. it is my new home!
No, single core is great.
1. Apps must be written to utilize dual core (the thunderbolt can be overclocked to 2ghz, which is much faster than needed)
2. Any phone you buy will be outdated in terms of current technology within 6 months. (Don't compare to other technology. Compare to apps you want to run. There are no foreseeable apps the thunderbolt can't run well)
Imho, dual core is currently just a gimmick to attract buyers and I don't think it will be necessary to own one for about 2 years.
I've used the attic, compared to thunderbolt you can't even notice a speed difference.
As for the usual bionic/thunderbolt debate. I believe the Ram is more important then dual core ATM. And if the bionic really only has 512, the thunderbolt will do perfectly fine stacked against it.
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gregdalfonso said:
the thunderbolt can be overclocked to 2ghz, aka the same speed as 1ghz dual core
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A 1GHz dual core processor is not 2GHz. Its 1GHz, both cores running at 500MHz.
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i've played with an Atrix before the TB came out. The dual core did nothing for it. My TB is noticeably faster than the Atrix was. Plus ATT 4G service is a joke.
As far as differences between 22 and 23, check this out:
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-android-2-2-froyo-and-android-2-3-gingerbread/
Probably not alot to to write home about, but i def like the gingerbread keyboard over the froyo keyboard.
Ive never seen a dual core referred to as the speed of the 2 cores added. Every dual core I've heard of refers to the speed of the individual processors. ie, all the new ones (tegra 2, exynos, evo 3d snapdragon) have 2 cores each at 1 ghz
Leading to the equation:
2 x 1 ghz cores != 1 x 2 ghz core != 2 x 500 mhz cores
You have nothing to worry about. The snapdragon CPU is second generation with great performance and low power, and It's coupled with adreno 205 graphics which is very capable. Your phone with be high end for easily 1.5 years matching the other phones out there. I'm not too worried about dual core CPU's yet because no software is taking advantage of it yet. And android OS won't be updated to utilize dual core till version 2.4. So you have nothing to worry about.
Hell my nexus one I still find top notch in my opinion.
I be worried about the quad cores coming out by the end of q3. That's what I want. I love my tb. I won it in a local contest and I still have my upgrade. Can you say win
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papi92 said:
I be worried about the quad cores coming out by the end of q3. That's what I want. I love my tb. I won it in a local contest and I still have my upgrade. Can you say win
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Quad scores mean very little to the end user experience go buy a desktop PC.
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miketoasty said:
Quad scores mean very little to the end user experience go buy a desktop PC.
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Lol, no he meant the quad cores processors coming out like the Tegra 3.
He said quad core not quadrant scores.
RogerPodacter said:
You have nothing to worry about. The snapdragon CPU is second generation with great performance and low power, and It's coupled with adreno 205 graphics which is very capable. Your phone with be high end for easily 1.5 years matching the other phones out there. I'm not too worried about dual core CPU's yet because no software is taking advantage of it yet. And android OS won't be updated to utilize dual core till version 2.4. So you have nothing to worry about.
Hell my nexus one I still find top notch in my opinion.
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Totally agree Roger. The real problem with dual core is Android software is not written to take full advantage of both cores. This was evident when I had a chance to play with my friends LG Optimus 2X. FPS was fantastic on nenamark averaging just below 80. All games in the Tegra zone played great. However, when it came to day to day stuff it lagged. For example, sometimes it took two swipes for the screen to register a touch. Web pages with heavy flash had awful load times.
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A 1GHz dual core processor is not 2GHz. Its 1GHz, both cores running at 500MHz.
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Uhh No. Its a Single Processor with 2 cores both running at 1ghz. none are run at 500 mhz.
and As for Quad Cores and Dual Cores, Im Loving the Battery life they are gonna bring to us. The Point isn't just performance but also low Energy Usage.
papi92 said:
I be worried about the quad cores coming out by the end of q3. That's what I want. I love my tb. I won it in a local contest and I still have my upgrade. Can you say win
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Win indeed sir. I'm a VZW employee and can upgrade every 9 months
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Can you imagine the epic tears that will flow for quad core battery issues?
... just sayin'
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Uhh No. Its a Single Processor with 2 cores both running at 1ghz. none are run at 500 mhz.
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+1
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And while applications might not be specifically written for dual core, the OS is. That alone provides some improvement.
But whatever. Our processor will be fine for quite some time.
And correct, a 1GHz dual core runs at 2x1GHz, not 2x500Mhz
Anyway we're not going to see gingerbread here for at least 4 months
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As for the OP, I don't think enough improvements from 2.2-2.3 are going to be done to make it the same as an optimized dual core. Also, I don't think stock HTC Sense 2.3 will have much of a visual difference than stock 2.2 Sense. Once the 2.3 update comes out, I'll probably still stick with a custom ROM that is 2.2 until the 2.3 custom ROM's come out.
What I hope that HTC fixes is the GPS issues. The "fix" that is in the development forum (turning off Google Location Services) has worked wonders for me, but I'm hoping HTC just fixes it in a firmware or software update sometime in the future.
ajftl said:
Anyway we're not going to see gingerbread here for at least 4 months
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Gb is reportedly hitting thunderbolt in q2!
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Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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damn dude just use the search button!!! there are a lot of same posts!
Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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nodstuff said:
Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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This..
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jojo_angelov said:
Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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Have you tried de-bloating your phone? It would also be good to disable application that auto-starts.
Hey. You don't have to worry about the available RAM being low. Android manages RAM usage differently than most other Operating Systems like OSX and Windows. Essentially, having RAM used up in Android is good because it caches apps in the background which allows you to have fluid multitasking.
If you are worried about performance then the best thing to do would be to install an app called Watchdog. This app will monitor the CPU usage of apps. These truly affect the performance of the phone. In general though don't worry about the RAM. And whatever you do, don't use a Task Killer for RAM purposes. This can be damaging because it can corrupt files and processes and inevitably cause more harm than good.
Hope that helps
If this post helped u please hit the thanks button below.
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Yep, 3rd party memory management sw use more power than they save so uninstall it at your earliest convenience please As you know ICS handles memory beautifuly. IT clears memory as needed so don't waste your time on memory-peeping and enjoy your phone
Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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jojo_angelov said:
Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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You cannot stop apps from autostarting without root.
You do not need root to remove bloatware.
Go to settings and apps, and then click on what you don't want and disable it.
how about this, this is really worst, i don,t have much bloatware running, still ram is very low
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there are threads with options for this.
ROOTED anyway.
edit your build prop, change the delvik heap size to 128....freed up ram for me, though i honestly dont need it. i only have around 100mgb of free ram and my phone still multie tasks like a champ.
but there are options.
The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
disclaimernotice said:
The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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This is assuming that what the cpu is processing is not in RAM, which is the point of it anyway
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
T.
biketom said:
I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
T.
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That is false. The US versions have 2GB of RAM because of their processor using more RAM. Jellybean runs just fine on the Galaxy nexus with 1GB of RAM and only a dual core processor.
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biketom said:
I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
T.
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That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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nodstuff said:
That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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joshnichols189 said:
The nexus s is also single core.
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Exactly!
JB will be absolutely fine on the S3.
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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Lennyuk said:
Unused ram is wasted ram
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This.:good:
I see many people on xda posting ridiculous methods of freeing up Ram and frying the phone
I was once one of them, but its too much nuisance to tolerate when its again and again repeated, I found this very cool thread for noobs:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Hi,
LOL...
viking37 said:
Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620
But... wait... Another thread about memory management... ouch, do you think that the noobs will read it or use it?
In before lock.
cmd512 said:
In before lock.
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Absolutely pointless post. ^^
Interesting article. Thanks op.
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Thanks for post. Many users don't know this
I'm waiting for someone to come in to this thread and try to tell us why you need 50 gigs of Ram and how his US variant with 2 gigs of RAM is far superior to the international, I own both so before this even comes to light lets be clear,clean,cut and dry the international version is smoother than the US variant no matter how many of you RAM fanatics want to tell me that 2 gigs is master race. Further Android manages RAM very well on it's own you can probably run just about anything with 512mb of RAM, but a whole gigabyte that's just butter on my toast. I hope people will actually read this thread and learn how their devices work instead of just yelling about how they need more RAM and wonder why they have no battery life when a task manager constantly clears the cache. I would appreciate it if one of the more informed members of XDA can make a simple write up of how Android manages RAM and why more free RAM is not always better :highfive:
Whilst I agree with the comments here it sometimes helps by not being rude to people who aren't as knowledgeable with android as some of us and who are asking questions like I have seen in some threads.
Whilst the adage free RAM is wasted RAM is generally correct with android there is no harm in freezing of uninstalling apps that you know you don't use.
For example I never use svoice and chat-on so there is no harm in freezing those or preventing them from loading if they will never be used.
Whilst unused RAM IS wasted RAM,,, RAM used by unused apps is also wasted ram
Go easy on the noobs and have a good weekend.
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stierney said:
Whilst I agree with the comments here it sometimes helps by not being rude to people who aren't as knowledgeable with android as some of us and who are asking questions like I have seen in some threads.
Whilst the adage free RAM is wasted RAM is generally correct with android there is no harm in freezing of uninstalling apps that you know you don't use.
For example I never use svoice and chat-on so there is no harm in freezing those or preventing them from loading if they will never be used.
Whilst unused RAM IS wasted RAM,,, RAM used by unused apps is also wasted ram
Go easy on the noobs and have a good weekend.
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While I do agree with this post no one here was implying that you shouldn't uninstall or Freeze bloatware, best wishes.
Ram, that's made by Dodge right?
I was cursing sammy for not providing 2 gigs in s3 (int)but now it seems fine. But since ram is cheaper what in the world would had hapnd if sammy had provided 2 gigs.
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imranb_001 said:
I was cursing sammy for not providing 2 gigs in s3 (int)but now it seems fine. But since ram is cheaper what in the world would had hapnd if sammy had provided 2 gigs.
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If I'm not mistaken the architecture of the version supporting HSPA does not support 2gb, that's why the Korean variant is slightly different and has 2 gigs of RAM, essentially It wouldn't have made any difference, the 32nm a9 process is about as far as it's going to go. (also I think the Korean version has 2 gigs of Ram due to LTE taking up more resources)
op, maybe it is not the issue of free-ing up RAM.. it also save up some battery...
eg: before you went to slp... make sure all are shut down.. and hv a minimal prog open for sync/phone..
of course now all OS have RAM optimism, but then sometime/some of the OS are not so profession on this.
most of the time due to the OS rooted/JB, which will have different methodology for optimizing the RAM.
Well, you can't deny the fact that more ram equals better multitasking. With less than 200mb of free ram after several days of use, my browser has to reload whenever I minimise it to check messages. But that wouldn't be the case if I had more free ram, ie when I've just rebooted the phone.
viking37 said:
Hi,
LOL...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620
But... wait... Another thread about memory management... ouch, do you think that the noobs will read it or use it?
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I hope they do
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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quattro_rs said:
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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Apparently, you've never met the Joneses and don't know how hard it is to keep up with them, let alone surpass them...
quattro_rs said:
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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Will your car also have more performance when you go to the gas station and fill it at max rather than half? Thats what this thread is about
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If more RAM doesn't matter, then why do I get booted out of Tintin and other heavy gameloft games whilst having had to run other program before the games were started? The only way to play without the game crashing is first be clearing cache. Would it be low RAM, Samsung's fault(no good optimizations), or gameloft's fault(no good optimizations)?
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If more RAM doesn't matter, then why do I get booted out of Tintin and other heavy gameloft games whilst having had to run other program before the games were started? The only way to play without the game crashing is first be clearing cache. Would it be low RAM, Samsung's fault(no good optimizations), or gameloft's fault(no good optimizations)?
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I would say both in my experience games from gameloft are always having poor support for samsung devices, and many other also
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I'm just saying having more ram would make the gs3 more future proof especially when games and apps get bigger and better and more resource hungry, plus ram is cheap and it wouldn't hurt adding 1 more gb......
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First off I would like to say I love my DNA from a hardware point of view. Everything about this phone's hardware is awesome. Secondly I don't mind sense. The problem comes in when Verizon gets in involved. With this being a Verizon only device Verizon has almost complete control. I want an unlock able bootloader and SD card slot, Google wallet and the other features Verizon left out form the J Butterfly. Because of this I may, still a possibility, sell this phone for either the M7 or the Samsung s4 depending on their specs. The main reason is these phones will be multi carrier devices with much more likely hood to receive updates and dev... Otherwise the DNA would be a perfect phone.
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I'm kinda in the same boat. I'm really considering selling this and getting the moto x phone when it comes out.
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The X phone and the S4 sound tasty.
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The X phone and the S4 sound tasty.
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you guys are funny.
M7 99% isn't going to be unlockable on ATT or VZW without exploit. And if you import it, likely won't support all the bands we need.
Wanna place bets on the X phone being locked down?
Sorry verizon snuck into your home in the middle of the night and took away your sd card slot and google wallet. My phone happened to ship that way, so I don't mind as much.
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you guys are funny.
M7 99% isn't going to be unlockable on ATT or VZW without exploit. And if you import it, likely won't support all the bands we need.
Wanna place bets on the X phone being locked down?
Sorry verizon snuck into your home in the middle of the night and took away your sd card slot and google wallet. My phone happened to ship that way, so I don't mind as much.
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So I'm not allowed to upgrade to the newest thing according to you...
I was fully aware of the flaws of the DNA when I bought it and still love it, but I am also able to upgrade to a newer and better device when it comes out.
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Bigandrewgold said:
So I'm not allowed to upgrade to the newest thing according to you...
I was fully aware of the flaws of the DNA when I bought it and still love it, but I am also able to upgrade to a newer and better device when it comes out.
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No, you're not allowed. you must continue to use the DNA
Seriously, though, being "locked down" is a pretty lame reason considering you'll likely still face that. And, if you don't switch carriers, you likely won't get wallet either.
And outside of probably having more storage, what do those phones have that the DNA doesn't? M7 is downgrade from DNA imo.
I cam from the Razr Maxx so this phone is amazing in comparsion. I do miss the battery life but i can still so far get through a day no problem. Now the storage is where i want to jump ship.
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No, you're not allowed. you must continue to use the DNA
Seriously, though, being "locked down" is a pretty lame reason considering you'll likely still face that. And, if you don't switch carriers, you likely won't get wallet either.
And outside of probably having more storage, what do those phones have that the DNA doesn't? M7 is downgrade from DNA imo.
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I don't want a m7. But even that will have a better camera and better screen, albeit slightly smaller.
But as far as the s4 and x phone. Better screen, better camera, better processor, better battery, and as you said, more storage.
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I don't want a m7. But even that will have a better camera and better screen, albeit slightly smaller.
But as far as the s4 and x phone. Better screen, better camera, better processor, better battery, and as you said, more storage.
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better screen, processor, and battery? Not arguing, but link me please. Didn't know better screens and processors existed yet.
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better screen, processor, and battery? Not arguing, but link me please. Didn't know better screens and processors existed yet.
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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I think solux is just more marketing nonsense. Anyhow, 4.7" screen I'd actually prefer. I am keeping my eyes out for that one. I miss the size of my oneX
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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The octa core processor is going to be useless. The industry hasnt even fully embraced quad core yet. Octa core is going to be a waste of battery and is just there for bragging rights.
Give me one reason why you need one in a phone being made RIGHT now. There isnt any logical reason unless you think benchmarks mean everything.
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The octa core processor is going to be useless. The industry hasnt even fully embraced quad core yet. Octa core is going to be a waste of battery and is just there for bragging rights.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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Not sure how a cpu offers 70% battery savings when it never is responsible for 70% of the total battery usage in the first place.
Reminds me of the stuff intel says.
I suppose time will tell.
At any rate, my initial retort was for the op. "no wallet", "no unlock", etc.
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Not sure how a cpu offers 70% battery savings when it never is responsible for 70% of the total battery usage in the first place.
Reminds me of the stuff intel says.
I suppose time will tell.
At any rate, my initial retort was for the op. "no wallet", "no unlock", etc.
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70% less battery consumption by the cpu. Not total battery life.
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70% less battery consumption by the cpu. Not total battery life.
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Ah, I made the mistake of reading the words you typed should be an exciting year for phones.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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I don't think a octa core processor is going to be much useful. Most apps don't even use the quad cores on the newer phones. As for 70% less battery usage, we'll see about that haha...
The only problem i foresee having with the DNA is the 5'' screen...My hands aren't that big, and a 4.7'' would be nicer to have. I hope the M7 is awesome, and gets good development soon. CM mod + awesome phone = happy me
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I don't think a octa core processor is going to be much useful. Most apps don't even use the quad cores on the newer phones. As for 70% less battery usage, we'll see about that haha...
The only problem i foresee having with the DNA is the 5'' screen...My hands aren't that big, and a 4.7'' would be nicer to have. I hope the M7 is awesome, and gets good development soon. CM mod + awesome phone = happy me
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Again, its not 8 core in the fact that 8 full power cores are running, there are 4 high power/performance cores to do intensive tasks, then there are 4 low power cores which save lots of energy compared to current quad core processors. These 4 cores are what are used most of the time, they will handle simple tasks. Here's a good quote.
"Something like mapping data would be handled by the "little" processor, while graphic-intensive gaming would switch over to the "big" guys."
So what this means for the end user is higher performance for tasks that need it, but overall lower power consumption and better battery life. That isn't propaganda or a guess, it is a fact.
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So what this means for the end user is higher performance for tasks that need it, but overall lower power consumption and better battery life. That isn't propaganda or a guess, it is a fact.
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This is going to be a complicated configuration, will be interesting to see how it performs when it's released. I can only imagine the mpdecision and governor complications when we start introducing switching from slower processors to faster processors mid thread.
The reality is, when I use applications like "maps", most of the time 3 of the 4 cores are totally offline, and the core in use is ramping as needed. I can't yet dispute the benefits of running said application on a slower CPU, but it seems pretty counter-intuitive to the "go fast and sleep" mentality that has been a pillar behind cpu power improvements for years and years.
Time will tell.
One thing is for sure, we can hardly state "facts" when the item doesn't even exist yet. Until then, it absolutely is "speculation" and/or "a guess".
I'm not sure where everyone is hearing that Verizon is getting the M7 on launch. Last I heard, this is T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint on launch.