I am curious as to which prepaid GSM carriers will work with this phone? I wonder this because I am hoping to use this phone as a start for developing and use my other android phone as my usual phone. So I am looking for an unlimited prepaid GSM carrier. Anyone have any information on it? I will greatly appreciate it.
What do you mean by unlimited? I use my sgii on a gophone account, there is unlimited talk/text/data for $50 but the data package is not compatible with smart phones. You would have to add one of their data plans if wanted to use data. I was looking at possibly H2o, they have a $60 unlimited talk/text/data, from what i'm told the data does seem work with an iphone, i have not tested with my sgii yet. Those are the two I'm aware of, use Google, there's a bunch more pre-paid gsm carrier out there.
The only confirmed working carrier I know of is Straight Talk, and:
1) You MUST get your SIM out of one of their $200 Nokias
2) You must NOT allow that Nokia to be activated with a different SIM - it'll deactivate yours
I can't tell you much more, as the above are things I recall from word-of-mouth that I haven't done myself. The SIMs in lower-end ST phones and all Tracfones are actually device-locked. (Kind of like a SIMlock in a device, but the other way around - and unlike SIMlocks, there's no way around a device-locked SIM.)
H2O wireless.. My friend has it and it works fine... Runs on att's network and their sim will work in any att phone with no unlock needed
I appreciate all the information you all gave me. now to determine if I should stick to my Go Phone plan or not.
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I've got an HTC Hero from Orange UK. I'm very pleased with the phone so far, but soon I'll be going on holiday in the US. When I go, I was planning to unlock the phone and use an alternative provider while in the US for both voice and data. From what I've read, I'll be limited to GPRS for data rather than 3G, since the Hero100 only supports UMTS1700 (listed as 'Future' US) and UMTS2100 (just about everywhere else) for 3G. I would need UMTS1900 to get 3G access in the US, is that right? Presumably this is a hardware issue with the radio itself?
If I am limited to GPRS, no problem - as long as I know there's no way I can get any kind of 3G while I'm over there. Can anyone recommend a good temporary provider who will sell me the US equivalent of a pay-as-you-go SIM for phone and data? And, might all these questions be irrelevant if I'm going to have loads of problems flashing the radio ROM so that the phone will allow me to use another provider?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
I dont think you would have to anything to the phone besides just unlock it. T-mobile and att I believe both have pay as you go plans and prepaid services you should check their us websites to find out more.
There is no pay-as-you-go data in the US on GSM networks except for crazy $$$/kb fees. Major inconvenience.
There are prepaid tarifs where you pay your monthly fee in advance rather than afterwards; They are called Flexpay (t-mo US) and Pay as you go (AT&T) iirc. Then you are kindly allowed to add data packages on top of your plan. But you can't stop paying for a few months when you are outside of the US or the whole thing gets cancelled...
For anyone using this phone on AT&T, can you tell me how AT&T recognizes the phone? Are you required to get the expensive capped data plans (does AT&T recognize it as a smartphone) or can you use the cheap dumbphone data plan (like I do with Bell Galaxy S and Milestone in my sig)
Answer would be appreciated
NOBODY using this phone on AT&T?
Honestly I'd like to know as well, as I am interested in getting one but currently it seems there's no dev scene for it. Which is disappointing since it can be bought right from Dell and works on ATT bands and Tmobile. (that is what's kept me from getting one.)
I would guess however, that it will work fine as AT&T doesn't have this phone on contract and therefore has no need for the IMEI numbers. But as always, I guess we won't know till someone takes the chance.
I have one on ATT, works just fine. I have the unlimited smartphone plan, but I'm sure you could use it with the dumbphone plans, since the IMEI isn't recognized with ATT
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I have one on ATT, works just fine. I have the unlimited smartphone plan, but I'm sure you could use it with the dumbphone plans, since the IMEI isn't recognized with ATT
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how does it show up in your account online? Any picture or name?
I'm still a bit wary beacuse I know the Dell Streak was recognized by AT&T and required the pricey plans so I want to know if that will happen with the Venue
Like the previous poster said, disappointed there's not more dev, the Venue has nice, proven hardware and great frequencies to utilize.
I would love to know too. Since I heard rumors that Dell gave ATT all their imei numbers.
I need a smartphone without a data plan.
I have had the Venue on ATT for about a week, i just used the SIM that came out of my Tilt 2. My online ATT acct doesnt show a pic or say what phone i have. Its the same it has been when i used my HD2 and HD7. But i have a smartphone plan so im not sure this is any help.
I just got one of these and got the unlock code for it. When I put in my AT&T SIM and set up the APN I only show EDGE data network and not 3G. Further the bands on the box show the AT&T 3G bands!?!?! I have an unlimitted Smartphone data plan.
Those of you who say "It works fine" Do you not have data? If you do are you getting 3G?!? If so are you in a major market?
Finally, do you have a newer AT&T 3G sim card or maybe an older one from cingular or something?
Thanks!
I think you have the wrong phone.
This phone comes only in the unlocked version. No unlock code needed.
i think they recognize phone through the sim card, what i did was find a crappy flip phone, put the sim card in there, sign up for hte $10 data family plan, and then switch back to my cappy....still havent been caught
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Got the Venue. 2 weeks later (today) received email from ATT, they are adding appropriate Smartphone Data Plan. A friend of mine at ATT says this could only happen if ATT gets serial number from Dell.
I am a AT&T prepaid user. Can I use the Atrix 4G in it without data plan? I only use Wi-Fi which is much faster.
The AT&T shop assistant man told me that I will not be able to use it if I do not open any date plan. If I am a prepaid user I can not use the phone; If I am a postpaid user I will be notified to add a data plan after I insert the SIM card into the Atrix 4G which is a smartphone.
Currently I also use a smartphone in AT&T network and does not commit any data plan. The phone works great. The shop assistant said the reason is that Atrix 4G is a AT&T phone and will be recognized by AT&T and force to open a data plan.
I do not know whether I should believe him for may be he is just trying to sell me more expensive plans. Is it technically possible to ban prepaid users? Is there any way to avoid this restriction? Since the Atrix 4G smartphone is bought in full price and unlocked, I do not owe AT&T anything. It works in T-Mobile, but does not works in AT&T prepaid, which seems very rediculous.
Yes, You can.
So the salesmen is only trying to threaten me with no real dangerous?
If you use a pre-paid SIM on an smartphone on AT&T, they will slap a data plan onto your account and you will be expected to pay it. I've seen it happen multiple times before.
Be careful when trying to break policy.
Well my girlfriend has an iPhone prepaid on ATT (my old one)with no data plan, so it is possible I would think for the Atrix to be used prepaid. But I really do not know.
Unfortunately, AT&T scans the IMEI numbers of all the phones on their networks occasionally and if they find any smartphones without data plans they add one without any warning. If you want to use a smartphone without Data, look at T-Mobile. They're the only one you can really do it on.
Sucks, and I think there should be some sort of law about that since there's no physical requirement of smartphones to have data, but thats how it is.
I've got an atrix, it uses 3g/4g so a data plan should work unlike the iphone. The Inspire is another phone where data plans are not available for pre paid. Salesmen love to threaten,intimidate and mislead.If you only want wifi you can turn off data in the data manager under settings.
So, they may only scan my IMEI and add data plan to it without my permission, and I can always make voice calls?
Since I am in "$2 Unlimited Daily Talk and Text" prepaid plan which is not qualified for any data plan, how can they add date plan to it?
Hello everybody, recently AT&T released a new pay as you go plan which is 50$ a month for unlimited everything. Unfortunately the unlimited data does not work on smartphones which is disappointing.
I recently switched to this plan because 50$ a month for unlimited everything is a great deal, what I was wondering was if someone could find a way to allow data to work on this plan\phone.
When you try to use firefox or similar browser it just says the page cannot be displayed, on the facebook android app it gives you a message that tells you data was refused.
I would gladly donate 20$ to anyone who could figure this out, and give me the fix. it seems like something a developer would know how to fix so if anyone has any ideas shoot them at me. If one of them works they will get a nice 20$ donation Thanks.
It sounds like AT&T itself is blocking the data connection.
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Exactly, but it doesn't block the connection if my pay as you go sim card is in a non-smart phone. There must be something that tells at&t you have a smartphone, and maybe there's a way to stop that.
What a rip off, i pay 15 bucks a month for unlimited.data
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Cell service providers such as AT&T have the ability to know what phone you are using through your sim card.
so it'll be hard to find a way around it, but it's not impossible.
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It's because it's an x10a from at&t if so it's the IMEI that gave it away they have a log of all there numbers if you call an be real nice they will give you the unlock code for free (I did it and it was free any one can on at&t) Then flash a Stock rom and then wait a month or so an cancel that sim and go to another store or have your friend start up another sim. A wahoo
So Patricks_book you're saying all I have to do is unlock my phone and data will work on my smartphone even though the 50$ unlimited everything plan doesn't allow smartphones to have unlimited data?
I don't think unlocking the phone changes your phone's IMEI number, if that's what you are wondering.
I used to have a Nokia E72 that covered AT&T's 3G frequency bands but never sold by AT&T. I don't use that any more but when I did, it worked with their $15 unlimited data plan (for a post-paid plan) that can only be used for dumb phones. It seemed then that AT&T didn't recognize the E72's IMEI # as a smartphone.
I don't know if this works on GoPhone plans now.....
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So Patricks_book you're saying all I have to do is unlock my phone and data will work on my smartphone even though the 50$ unlimited everything plan doesn't allow smartphones to have unlimited data?
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NO But it's worth a try. Unlock it an update to like Wolfs 2.3.3 x10i and if nothing else you'll have a unlocked bad ares phone
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I don't think unlocking the phone changes your phone's IMEI number, if that's what you are wondering.
I used to have a Nokia E72 that covered AT&T's 3G frequency bands but never sold by AT&T. I don't use that any more but when I did, it worked with their $15 unlimited data plan (for a post-paid plan) that can only be used for dumb phones. It seemed then that AT&T didn't recognize the E72's IMEI # as a smartphone.
I don't know if this works on GoPhone plans now.....
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when you sign up though you sign up using a sim, not an imei. so your account is only linked to your sim card.
I have switched phones three times and all I did was pop my sim into a different phone.
I think though that it recognizes you are using 3g or hspa data and that is why it blocks it. Aren't those plans for gsm only?
Its about what APN you connect via. Have a look @ this. Settings > Wireless and networks > Mobile Networks > AT&T and you'll need to configure the apn ... I have no idea which one ... But well , thats all I can help .
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when you sign up though you sign up using a sim, not an imei. so your account is only linked to your sim card.
I have switched phones three times and all I did was pop my sim into a different phone.
I think though that it recognizes you are using 3g or hspa data and that is why it blocks it. Aren't those plans for gsm only?
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Yeah you're right your account is linked only to your SIM card otherwise you won't be able to swap phones. But at least on AT&T they seem to be able to recognize if a smartphone (sold by AT&T) is being used.
A few years ago when AT&T only had a $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones or $15 ulmimited for dumbphones, they started forcing subscribers who use the $15 plan for smartphones switch to correct data plans. Many AT&Ters discussed this issue then and the only conclusion drawn based on their experience was that it was through their IMEI #.
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Yeah you're right your account is linked only to your SIM card otherwise you won't be able to swap phones. But at least on AT&T they seem to be able to recognize if a smartphone (sold by AT&T) is being used.
A few years ago when AT&T only had a $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones or $15 ulmimited for dumbphones, they started forcing subscribers who use the $15 plan for smartphones switch to correct data plans. Many AT&Ters discussed this issue then and the only conclusion drawn based on their experience was that it was through their IMEI #.
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hmmm but if you never gave them your imei they would have no way of knowing...
I would say it has to do with either your apn, the bands you're using (and the fact that you're using 3g/hspa), or just they can recognize the pure volume of data you are using.
They have ALL the IMEIs for the phone from the manufactures and from the ones that are or where on their network and when you use your phone it comes up in their system like if you call in to support and they ask for it there just checking to see if it's the right one. So you can try an app like Privacy Blocker to change your IMEI I do not know if it will work but it is an option in the app ( not on the phone just on out going signals for apps ?) An if it does work PLEASE post it in the forum.
Good luck to us all if it does .
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They have ALL the IMEIs for the phone from the manufactures and from the ones that are or where on their network and when you use your phone it comes up in their system like if you call in to support and they ask for it there just checking to see if it's the right one. So you can try an app like Privacy Blocker to change your IMEI I do not know if it will work but it is an option in the app ( not on the phone just on out going signals for apps ?) An if it does work PLEASE post it in the forum.
Good luck to us all if it does .
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That's not correct at all....
the imei does not pop up, I worked for a phone company before.
Unless you sign up with a phone and have given it to them, they do not have your imei...
If the phone was first purchased from AT&T then they have the IMEI. Or just like when an app has access to your account it can read your IMEI your sim card can read your IMEIs it's connected too your phone number contract/pay as you go. Anyone of them even Wally world (Walmart) who ever you get a sim card from can read your sim card/IMEI.
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So Patricks_book you're saying all I have to do is unlock my phone and data will work on my smartphone even though the 50$ unlimited everything plan doesn't allow smartphones to have unlimited data?
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Its a bullsh!t plan. I got this plan, got data to work just fine, but had alot of trouble with it. ie- Market apps, took FOREVER to download.. That was the first downfall. Yesterday morning, I noticed my phone was in Edge mode. I proceeded to reset it, change the Network options in the debug menu, and play with the APN. This morning.. Still Edge. My conclusion? They obviously shut off my 3G. Now, The problem I have with this, is that I havnt used over 100 mb of data yet, and it hasnt even been a week since I got this service. Stay away from this plan.. GARBAGE. Now, as much as I loathe paying an EXTRA 20 bucks a month, Im taking the dive and goin with TMobile. I need my 3g....
I just kind of skimmed over this post (new here) and this alone made me sign up cause I just order X10 recently.
I have this question though; if is not IMEI# that at&t block you with, then is it possible a reflashing could fix it? I have heard of people use different firmware versions; like my old phone, Ericsson K850i there was just plain K850 version (no 'i') that could get 3G I think.
But assume I install new Sony 2.3.3 Android on my X10, would be the key to get around at&t unnoticed ja?
I too have unlimite 50usd plan and tried to use on HTC Aria that was brand with at&t junk. That did not work But I have not try to root it (updated to 2.2 already ) so I not know if reflash would have fix it or not.
I live in the USA and will be spending 6 days in Edmonton in August. My Verizon plan doesn't include any international roaming/data benefits, and I don't want to call Verizon and risk them forcing me to "upgrade" my ancient plan to a current plan (i.e. more expensive, less benefits) in order to get roaming. I only need it for a week anyway!
The other thing I was thinking was just to turn my Rezound radio off and buy a pre-paid phone from a local Wal-Mart once I arrive, and only use my Rez on Wi-Fi. Someone suggested I buy a pre-paid SIM with a small data allowance and pop it in my Rezound. Will that work without a Global ROM?
I've never needed to deal with this situation before, what should I do? I want to avoid modifying my plan if at all possible. I think buying a temporary pre-paid phone is the best option...
Thanks!
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I live in the USA and will be spending 6 days in Edmonton in August. My Verizon plan doesn't include any international roaming/data benefits, and I don't want to call Verizon and risk them forcing me to "upgrade" my ancient plan to a current plan (i.e. more expensive, less benefits) in order to get roaming. I only need it for a week anyway!
The other thing I was thinking was just to turn my Rezound radio off and buy a pre-paid phone from a local Wal-Mart once I arrive, and only use my Rez on Wi-Fi. Someone suggested I buy a pre-paid SIM with a small data allowance and pop it in my Rezound. Will that work without a Global ROM?
I've never needed to deal with this situation before, what should I do? I want to avoid modifying my plan if at all possible. I think buying a temporary pre-paid phone is the best option...
Thanks!
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yes but you can buy just the sim card for alot cheaper than buying a phone with sim in it...i only ever really used the rezound here in the USA with a gsm network with no issues...
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yes but you can buy just the sim card for alot cheaper than buying a phone with sim in it...i only ever really used the rezound here in the USA with a gsm network with no issues...
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Ok, so I guess the main question then: I'm running CM10.1, does that ROM work in Canada or do I need a "Global" patch of some kind?
Actually it's a moot point - the company I'm working with up there will provide me with an iPhone for the week! :good:
I recently visited Canada with my Rezound (CM11) and regular US plan. The following are some potentially useful notes:
Verizon users can use SMS (to US numbers) while in Canada at no additional charge. Soon after crossing the border, Verizon automatically sent me a SMS confirming this.
Before crossing, I turned off mobile data and kept it off until I got back.
MMS messages use data, so there would be an additional charge. Disabling data also blocks notifications that a MMS message is available.
I forgot if I had to select a different network setting (CDMA, GSM, etc). However, I had no signal issues once I had the right setting.
I use Google Voice. When I had access to WiFi, I could check voicemail and from my laptop I could place calls (to US or Canada numbers) for free.