AT&T and HSPA+21 (64QAM) - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Does anyone know if AT&T still plans on enabling 64QAM on their HSPA+ network(if they haven't already)? Or have they decided to ditch evolved HSPA+ in favor of LTE? I love my Galaxy s2, but sucks I can't take advantage of the HSPA+ 21mbps radio, especially considering there will not be LTE here in Detroit anytime soon.

Jonnyredcorn said:
Does anyone know if AT&T still plans on enabling 64QAM on their HSPA+ network(if they haven't already)? Or have they decided to ditch evolved HSPA+ in favor of LTE? I love my Galaxy s2, but sucks I can't take advantage of the HSPA+ 21mbps radio, especially considering there will not be LTE here in Detroit anytime soon.
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They are still using 16QAM which effectively limits your speeds at 14.4mbps in theory. The latest I've heard is they will not be upgrading to 64QAM and they expect their users to fall back to 14.4mbps capable HSPA+
Totally sucks that T-Mobile users have been rocking 64QAM since last year.

Im nearing that 14.4 limit
This was using the HSPA+ from my ATT GS2 while tethered to my laptop
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How do you get that speed? I'm maxing out at 5mbps in NYC... sad.

Are you using that site? It reports different speeds than the application, so might want to look at that...

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How do you get that speed? I'm maxing out at 5mbps in NYC... sad.
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Yeah, that sucks only getting 5mbps on a cell phone.
I don't even get that on my home internet.

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Are you using that site? It reports different speeds than the application, so might want to look at that...
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I do get different reports too but ive seen similar results on speedtest as well.

Itaintrite said:
How do you get that speed? I'm maxing out at 5mbps in NYC... sad.
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Ha, I wish I could hit 5. I can't break 3 in an area with hspa+
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I do get different reports too but ive seen similar results on speedtest as well.
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I almost get 2.5x more on the site, so it confuses me. Can't break 4 mbps on the application, but on the site, I can go over 10 easily, even 12 mbps...

milan03 said:
They are still using 16QAM which effectively limits your speeds at 14.4mbps in theory. The latest I've heard is they will not be upgrading to 64QAM and they expect their users to fall back to 14.4mbps capable HSPA+
Totally sucks that T-Mobile users have been rocking 64QAM since last year.
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Except for the fact that you don't usually ever see anything over 8 down in most areas with it... Switched from tmobile, their speed and coverage was never consistent. At least with att I get a consistent 7 just about everywhere I go i'm the suburbs and the city (Philly area)
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In Atlanta I'm getting over 8
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In + I range from 1/2 to 3 (rare) mbps. Never got anything above that. Sppedtest app, speakeasy, different APNs and build.prop changes still no help.
Temple is a low traffic area.
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harlenm said:
Yeah, that sucks only getting 5mbps on a cell phone.
I don't even get that on my home internet.
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Heh, I did say "max out", didn't I? Average is perhaps 1-2mbps. (And max 5 is being generous). But hey, upload speed is faster than my cable heh.

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Ha, I wish I could hit 5. I can't break 3 in an area with hspa+
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What area is that? I can consistently hit 3-4 Mbps on my captivate in Dallas. Seeing these download speeds is really making me consider switching to Tmobile.
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I've hit like 3.5mbps down once but usually around 1.5mbps down. I would be happy with 3.
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I had very nice speeds today around 91208 zip code area and even higher through speakeasy.net/speedtest. I hope to get those speeds where I live.

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What area is that? I can consistently hit 3-4 Mbps on my captivate in Dallas. Seeing these download speeds is really making me consider switching to Tmobile.
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Syracuse ny
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WTF 3g speed?

So I hate Sprint and I've been trying to leave, called and they wouldn't let me leave without an etf. So I normally do speedtests and normally get maybe 30kb/s well this morning I take it and I get http://www.speedtest.net/android/91283825.png
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I will have no problem staying with them if they can keep this up.
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Normal for me.
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Normal for me.
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YOU ARE VERY LUCKY THEN.
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It used to be 1.3Mbps for me. It's climbing up.
It sad that I don't use it since my Wimax coverage here is thick.
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I noticed a HUGE speed jump yesterday too.
I will say I noticed a jump in mine also. I switched back to a sense rom. Just to get 4g to tether at work. After a day I missed my cm and said eff it I'm going back to cm. When I went back and tethered, I noticed it was a huge difference. Was around 300kbs, now I'm around 1.4 mbs here in Jax.
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I'm jealous of you all! My 3G speeds suck complete donkey nuts!
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DDiaz007 said:
I'm jealous of you all! My 3G speeds suck complete donkey nuts!
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Yep same here mine sucks at home and at work....
maybe they actually are going to improve the network before the iphone. Who knows, maybe the iphone will help things since they use less data than android phones. (because of less bg updates)
highly doubt it though, mine still blows
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I'm jealous of you all! My 3G speeds suck complete donkey nuts!
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same here except i dont even have 3g around my house anymore. been on 1x since wednesday yet sprint continues to say theres nothing wrong with the towers in my area and that its my phones. sorry sprint but i dont believe all 3 of my phones and tablet just suddenly crapped out on the same day to use only 1x and only in the areas around my house. 2 miles down the road there back on 3g.
I knew I wasn't going crazy!! Same here!!
I was pulling 50-150kbps usually and I noticed my 3G data was going in and out like mad so I talked to the dudes at Best Buy and they said they'd been having issues with their Sprint phones and activating them. Turns out they found out that Sprint's been messing with the towers in my area and have been working on getting 4G brought to my city, and now my data speeds are INSANE.
On 3G yesterday I pulled 960 kbps with Speedtest, and consistently pull 500-800kbps. Definitely kicking ass now.
Just did a speed test, this is absolute garbage. I am getting 88 kbps download. What the hell am I suppose to do with that? And how is this not grounds for getting out of your contract for free? I rather have a data cap but usable 3G speeds.
I've had better.. but this is the norm.
Speeds are getting better but when will sprint get a power house device like the amaze... I mean we do have the S3 processor but if this thing could record in 1080p with a 2mp ffc and 8mp rear camera all would be good. I don't understand why they don't aim to completely top the last device...
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I can't complain..never had an issue.
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I was getting poor speeds for the last like 2 weeks in NYC, but checked again today after reading this thread and they have reasonably increased which makes me happy
fmedina2 said:
Just did a speed test, this is absolute garbage. I am getting 88 kbps download. What the hell am I suppose to do with that? And how is this not grounds for getting out of your contract for free? I rather have a data cap but usable 3G speeds.
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Well if there was ever a good sign it is getting improved, this is it. Coast to coast.
They're doing it fast so give it a little time.
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This is really cranking up! I hope it stays this way.
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i have noticed a huge jump in 3G as well... out here in sacramento CA. i stay up pretty late, and the last few weeks at odd hours of the night my network speeds will just take a dive or cut out entirely for several hours. then it's right back in the morning.
i have also noticed i am getting 4g in more areas. i used to always have to turn my 4g antenna off while on my way to work because it would cut out... now i get solid reception on my way to work when on wimax.
my 3g speeds have always been pretty good though. and 4g as well
it is obvious to me they are expanding
I think after the past few months my service has gone downhill badly and I think I have finally decided to move on to Verizon where I will get what I pay for, I have been paying for premium data with sprint and the only way I get data is over wifi, and I'm done. Hope you guys don't wait too long before you make your decisions.
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T-Mobile GS2 on At&t I get 10+ mbps.

I unlocked the T-Mobile GS2 and using it on At&t and getting very good speeds like 6-10 mbps.
Can people post their speed on At&t with At&t GS2. Because with Original GS2 I am getting 1-1.2mbps. I'm in New York, Queens.
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poor speed here..
2-6 Mbps Miami, FL
About 2-5 in Socal , have never seen it go past my Captivate (HSDPA) yet.
This would probably be a lot more exciting to people on the TSGS2 forum. I can't imagine anyone on AT&T buying a T-Mobile phone just to gain access to AWS which doesn't even exist in Europe or Asia. Besides, the Skyrocket is the same phone but LTE and will pull 15-18MB down so if AT&T'rs wanted a bigger screen they'd get that. It's good that it works on AT&T for you T-Mobile'rs so it's not a door stop after the merger.
I don't have screen shot sorry. But LA, California I have a bug that does not let me test. -__- i will edit later when it works
No the thing is on the original gs2 I get 1- 1.2 mbps and on T-Mobile gs2 I get 6-10 mbps on At&t. That's why I wanted to know what kind of speeds At&t gs2 owners are getting that's all. I'm not suggesting anyone to go get the T mobile version.
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poor speed here..
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Your speeds are pretty good. With my 4g Sim, plan, and SG2, and in a confirmed area of 4g, these results are typical for me:
Regardless of day or time...or area of the San Fernando Valley...
samomamo said:
I unlocked the T-Mobile GS2 and using it on At&t and getting very good speeds like 6-10 mbps.
Can people post their speed on At&t with At&t GS2. Because with Original GS2 I am getting 1-1.2mbps. I'm in New York, Queens.
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So those differences were in similar testing conditions, over time? Very interesting.
Yes ecru place I test in queens the speed is lot higher
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samomamo said:
No the thing is on the original gs2 I get 1- 1.2 mbps and on T-Mobile gs2 I get 6-10 mbps on At&t. That's why I wanted to know what kind of speeds At&t gs2 owners are getting that's all. I'm not suggesting anyone to go get the T mobile version.
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Why is that? What makes the T-Mobile version better for data on the same network?
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Why is that? What makes the T-Mobile version better for data on the same network?
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It's not. The TSGS2 can get a theoretical 42MB down on T-Mobile using AWS so it's definately going to be faster there. Part of the reason isn't just the phone, T-Mobile's using dual-cell HSPA (link below). On AT&T's bands, it's 21MB down just like the ISGS2 and ASGS2 and AT&T's network's not dual-cell. If he's getting different results it's either because of APN settings being off, incorrect account provisioning, or AT&T's network just being randomly flaky. If OP was getting 1MB down with an ISGS2 something was horribly wrong. I get 3-4MB down in 3G cities and have gotten 10MB down on occasion when traveling in TX but routinely get 6-8MB down in fake-4G cities.
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I have the same APN settings on both
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332496
Some speed test in this thread.
SoCaliTrojan said:
Your speeds are pretty good. With my 4g Sim, plan, and SG2, and in a confirmed area of 4g, these results are typical for me:
Regardless of day or time...or area of the San Fernando Valley...
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Lol porn city
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Makes you wonder if att is throttling certain phones with certain emi's
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I think they are controlling doing something with the connections.
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I'm getting 1-3MBPS.. same and slower speeds than my iPhone 3GS/4. Ridiculous..
My wife's iPhone is getting 6-7mbps and the igs2 gets 1-1.3 mbps
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I have the same APN settings on both
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What APN settings are you using?

New prl 21083

Can u confirm other places please here is west of texas
A bit 3g improvement so far
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Got the update and updated profile. Speeds slower in Salt Lake City.
animal7296 said:
Got the update and updated profile. Speeds slower in Salt Lake City.
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No way
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Not showing up here and updating your PRL and getting better 3G and or lower 3G speeds is mostly a placebo effect.
Mikee4fun said:
Not showing up here and updating your PRL and getting better 3G and or lower 3G speeds is mostly a placebo effect.
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Not always
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Not always
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Can you read? I said mostly... also on Sprint with official PRL's you cannot roam with 3G speeds, only 1x speeds which suck. PRL updates you may see better coverage but that is it, you still will not get better 3G speeds. If you think so you are drinking some awesome cool aid!
do you think this prl would enable 1x-advanced?
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do you think this prl would enable 1x-advanced?
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The only way we would have 1x advanced enabled is from a radio firmware upgrade.
Yup just got the update too
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The only way we would have 1x advanced enabled is from a radio firmware upgrade.
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Right.
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Still stuck on 21081 here in FL
Feels like it made my phone take longer to search for the best tower
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21083 in Jax Fl.
Anyone sending same text multiple times with new prl?
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God I remember what happened last time I updated my PRL. Was stuck in 1XRTT for a week. Was very gay, I'll give it a try see what happens... No way sprint would screw it up again would they? lol
Update: PRL 21083 live here in Minneapolis. Hey they didn't jack the 3G this time.
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I get full wimax signal at my house still mixed results there. I never use it here since I have wi-fi. Ran a few tests just for kicks anywhere from 2 on the low end to 6+ on the high. When it first came here use to pull 10+ everytime.
God I can't wait for wimax to go, funny there is an ad in speedtest for verizon that says want an LTE network? Yes I do. Sprints 3G is good when it actually works, it use to be the best around not so much anymore. I would be way ok with CONSISTENT speeds of 1,000+ I just want enough to run rhapsody and pandora. EVDO rev B would be a nice upgrade, I hope we see it sometime along with LTE.
I would say haven't noticed any faster speeds at home, but hopefully when I'm out and about it is a little more consistent.
21083 in Portland Oregon
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Jacksonville Florida (Local Time 10:18 EST) Phone updated to 21083 PRL . Havent ran speed tests as of yet but Im sure they are still the same slow ass speeds as they were before .
3G
DL .49Mbps
Upl .08Mbps
Thank god Sprint doesnt throttle data speeds I wouldnt have any data at all
SouthernEvo said:
Jacksonville Florida (Local Time 10:18 EST) Phone updated to 21083 PRL . Havent ran speed tests as of yet but Im sure they are still the same slow ass speeds as they were before .
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Still not getting it near Orlando here, guess I'll have to switch back to a more complete stock ROM and try
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Mikee4fun said:
PRL updates you may see better coverage but that is it, you still will not get better 3G speeds. If you think so you are drinking some awesome cool aid!
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No matter how many times you tell people this, it never registers. The placebo effect is far more powerful than logic.
I personally wasnt expecting better 3G speeds but one can hope . I spent the past week roaming in Verizon's territory (Yes I used the PRL hack for verizon towers since I was in a verizon zone anyways) OMG delicious download speeds (still drooling)

Data speeds super slow

Seriously Sprint sucks so bad.
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Seriously Sprint sucks so bad.
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So feel your pain, fixing to cancel and get a nexus world phone and go a different Avenue. Not going to wait another year. Just tired of waiting for things to improve.
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While those are some ****ty upload speeds... The download is actually really good. And the ping is pretty good too.
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While those are some ****ty upload speeds... The download is actually really good. And the ping is pretty good too.
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I agree. I think his post was being sarcastic.
Upload is always way slower than download speeds.
Wish I got those speeds.
Verizon is going to have 4G in my area by the end of the summer. Looking at another two years before Sprint 4G comes to my area.
So the the ultimate question is, how much do I like unlimited data?
One thing I know is, if Sprint pulls unlimited data after it acquires a network I am going to be more than upset. If I sit here for the next couple of years getting 50-300kbps average, while I could be getting 10 times that on big red, only to see Sprint say, "Okay, we have a network comparable to the other carriers, here's tiered data..." Somehow, I think that's there plan.
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I agree. I think his post was being sarcastic.
Upload is always way slower than download speeds.
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It was all in jest. I get acceptable 3g and good 4g. However, I will be mad if LTE if slower in my area than my current 4g.
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flonker said:
Wish I got those speeds.
Verizon is going to have 4G in my area by the end of the summer. Looking at another two years before Sprint 4G comes to my area.
So the the ultimate question is, how much do I like unlimited data?
One thing I know is, if Sprint pulls unlimited data after it acquires a network I am going to be more than upset. If I sit here for the next couple of years getting 50-300kbps average, while I could be getting 10 times that on big red, only to see Sprint say, "Okay, we have a network comparable to the other carriers, here's tiered data..." Somehow, I think that's there plan.
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If that's there plan I'm out. If they change unlimited data they will definately be letting people out of ETF I would think
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msimindlessmsi2 said:
It was all in jest. I get acceptable 3g and good 4g. However, I will be mad if LTE if slower in my area than my current 4g.
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Man I would die for those speeds. I bet you can download a 2 hour movie in 10 mins or less.
Yeah, my speeds suck in St. Louis too.
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Man I would die for those speeds. I bet you can download a 2 hour movie in 10 mins or less.
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Lol maybe in like 240p...
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Would love to see the 3G speeds. You are just lucky to have 4G coverage for the time being...maybe you'll have LTE by 2014
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Would love to see the 3G speeds. You are just lucky to have 4G coverage for the time being...maybe you'll have LTE by 2014
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4G WIMAX is scheduled to be here until 2015 AFAIK.
3G in St. Louis:
Speed
I would kill for speeds like that. im getting 63kbps down and 109kbps up.
My 3g is typically around 2 down. Luckily I live in Houston so LTE should work well for me.
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Using 3g:
Ping 201ms
down 732kbps
up 369kbps
using wifi through my home wireless router
Ping 96ms
down 2369kbps
up 331kbps
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Man I would die for those speeds. I bet you can download a 2 hour movie in 10 mins or less.
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I could probably download a 2min movie in 10hrs with my ****ty 3g speeds.
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My 3G speeds are slow, but I live in a 4G area so I hop on that when I need to. I wish it was a little quicker to turn on the 4G antenna, though.
3G speeds has definitely improved for me in northern Delaware
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The unlimited "Now" network. Thank god for wifi.
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The unlimited "Now" network. Thank god for wifi.
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my internet is unacceptable wondering if these are average numbers

I can't even stream you tube videos and it take ten sometimes 15 minutes to download 3mb apps any suggestion on how to fix this
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I've had the same issues. Seems a bit better the last few days but still poor. I'm in the DC area and would expect stronger signals. Sadly, I have no idea how to improve this though.
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Hey look at it this way. Your ping is damn good for EVDO
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I can't even stream you tube videos and it take ten sometimes 15 minutes to download 3mb apps any suggestion on how to fix this
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Don't use sprint. I've been cursing the data network all day trying to download stuff. Tweeted earlier when I was at 211B/s. I also blame the tower servicing the house.
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Try flashing different PRLs.
customer service rep lol told me its because there working on putting up the lte towers and to reboot my phone. Um tried that and still slow, i give up i just hope lte in Rockford Illinois get here fast second largest city in Illinois and we didn't get wimax but a smaller town 20 miles away with population of 60,000 did i found that rather strange.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
customer service rep lol told me its because there working on putting up the lte towers and to reboot my phone. Um tried that and still slow, i give up i just hope lte in Rockford Illinois get here fast second largest city in Illinois and we didn't get wimax but a smaller town 20 miles away with population of 60,000 did i found that rather strange.
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3Rd largest behind Chicago and Aurora. anyhow, don't hold your breath. I don't see Rockford getting LTE anytime soon.
and I wouldn't be surprised if Wimax was on but it wasn't announced. It was on in Bloomington Normal but never announced.
I left for t mobile and get speeds just as fast as my Wimax ever got. using their hspa+.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
I can't even stream you tube videos and it take ten sometimes 15 minutes to download 3mb apps any suggestion on how to fix this
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Ha. The guys at my local spring store used to joke and say "that's moving at sprint speed". Spring data speeds are horrible.
Just prior to me leaving for t mobile sprint upgraded my towers and we were getting like 1 Mb dl which was nice.however after a year and a half of speeds like yours I was already determined to leave. Good luck. Hope network vision improves things.
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thos25 said:
Ha. The guys at my local spring store used to joke and say "that's moving at sprint speed". Spring data speeds are horrible.
Just prior to me leaving for t mobile sprint upgraded my towers and we were getting like 1 Mb dl which was nice.however after a year and a half of speeds like yours I was already determined to leave. Good luck. Hope network vision improves things.
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I just left TMobile and the speed difference is very evident. TMobile 2g is faster than sprint 3g i just hope it will get better soon our i will be forced to go with Verizon.
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Try updating your PRL, and if that doesn't work you can try switching the network mode to CDMA only in the mobile network settings menu. If you're rooted you can also use MSL reader off the market to get your MSL, or call sprint and ask for it, then dial ##DATA# and change your EVDO mode to CDMA HDR only. If using MSL reader, for some reason it only works if you install, uninstall and reinstall again.
I got more consistent 1mbps speeds, up from 500~, in the san francisco area, I don't know if they're messing around with the towers over here, but there has been reports from people that these workarounds should force the phone to stop trying to flip between EVDO and LTE
You only did two tests? Try going to the setting and changing which server it is connecting to during the test.
I average 1Mbps-1.5Mbps usually.
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You only did two tests? Try going to the setting and changing which server it is connecting to during the test.
I average 1Mbps-1.5Mbps usually.
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i did over 50 test with same results i just did these two to confirm that factory ressetting it as a sprint rep told me does nothing but waste your time.
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