I would like to buy this phone but i am moving to the UK in the new year. on the Rogers website it lists the frequencies of the of the Razr as:
GSM Bands: 850/900/1800/1900
HSPA Bands: 850/900/1900/2100
I was wondering if this means that you can use the Razr with 3g in the UK?... or even if the frequencies listed on the Rogers page are true?
It should work since 900, 2100 bands are presented
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Would say yeah. But not HSPA, I think UK is still stucking with GSM.
Fealakwen said:
Would say yeah. But not HSPA, I think UK is still stucking with GSM.
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All the major UK carriers support HSDPA/HSUPA, and one carrier (3) is currently rolling out HSPA+ this year. Coverage will be undoubtedly spotty though.
madmikeuk said:
All the major UK carriers support HSDPA/HSUPA, and one carrier (3) is currently rolling out HSPA+ this year. Coverage will be undoubtedly spotty though.
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Okay, my mistake. Seems like France is alone in Middle Age :/
madmikeuk said:
All the major UK carriers support HSDPA/HSUPA, and one carrier (3) is currently rolling out HSPA+ this year. Coverage will be undoubtedly spotty though.
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Thank you, i just wanted to make sure. Would make it easier so i would not be stuck in a monthly plan when i get there.
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Hi, I have the white s2 i9100unlock version and when I put in my
Tmobile Sim card it says that I am running on E network instead of 4g. Is there anything I can do to change this? I contact Tmobile and they say it's the phone not their line. Please help me out because running on the E network is very slow
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The international i9100 does not support 4G. Only option would be to get a 4G enabled one.
its because the international galaxy s2 doesn't have the same 3g bands as T-Mobile (assuming you are T-Mobile USA). They run off of 1700/2100 while the phone itself supports 850/900/1900/2100. While only the 2100 band matches, if you don't get 2100 coverage in your area, you will default to 2g.
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Hi, I have the white s2 i9100unlock version and when I put in my
Tmobile Sim card it says that I am running on E network instead of 4g. Is there anything I can do to change this? I contact Tmobile and they say it's the phone not their line. Please help me out because running on the E network is very slow
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So you started another thread on this, where I also answered your question. This phone will never get HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile USA - or what they call "4G". It lacks one of the necessary frequencies for it. It will only get Edge speeds. From what I remember on how T-Mobile USA's network functions, 3G and "4G" need both 1700 and 2100 mhz to function, as it uses one frequency for download and the other for upload.
EDIT: Here's the wikipedia article on AWS, which is the band T-Mobile uses for 3G/4G. In brief, AWS uses 1700 Mhz for uplink, and 2100 Mhz for downlink. So since it only gets half of the band, it won't do "4G".
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its because the international galaxy s2 doesn't have the same 3g bands as T-Mobile (assuming you are T-Mobile USA). They run off of 1700/2100 while the phone itself supports 850/900/1900/2100. While only the 2100 band matches, if you don't get 2100 coverage in your area, you will default to 2g.
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Unfortunately, the bolded/underlined part is simply not true. T-Mobile USA needs your phone to be able to get both 1700 mhz and 2100 mhz UMTS frequencies to do 3G/4G. If your phone doesn't have one of the frequencies, it won't do 3G/4G at all, and fall to Edge (2.5G).
What if I overall another ROM? Will it help?
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Tkdinh101 said:
What if I overall another ROM? Will it help?
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No. The phone simply doesn't have the hardware to receive the frequency. Nothing you can do to fix this.
akusokuzan said:
its because the international galaxy s2 doesn't have the same 3g bands as T-Mobile (assuming you are T-Mobile USA). They run off of 1700/2100 while the phone itself supports 850/900/1900/2100. While only the 2100 band matches, if you don't get 2100 coverage in your area, you will default to 2g.
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Wow that's weird, here in aus you only need to match one freq to get 3g. Do you know what t-mobile has done to require two bands to match? (its just my curiosity asking)
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Tkdinh101 said:
Hi, I have the white s2 i9100unlock version and when I put in my
Tmobile Sim card it says that I am running on E network instead of 4g. Is there anything I can do to change this? I contact Tmobile and they say it's the phone not their line. Please help me out because running on the E network is very slow
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You need Galaxy2 HD LTE to access 4G. That particular model is not available outside Korea at the moment. If you want 4G, try Samsung Galaxy Note or LG Optimus LTE - also known as Nitro HD, or HTC phones.
Visentinel said:
Wow that's weird, here in aus you only need to match one freq to get 3g. Do you know what t-mobile has done to require two bands to match? (its just my curiosity asking)
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That indeed is weird and inconvenient, but I guess telco's can setup their system however they like... It may have lot to do with number of people using mobile services. In OZ we have 22 million potential mobile users using 4 major telco companies, whereas in USA, they would get most of OZ population just in New York city, let alone rest of the country.
Ah systemcrasher I think they might be load balancing the hspa+ mimo across the two freqs. Telstra nextg doesn't need to coz there's allot less people here.
If that's the case still should be allowed to fall back to a non mimo mode.
Let this be a lesson to the OP, always research all carrier pre requisites before buying, also consider other carriers encased you'd like to stay open to other options.
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Visentinel said:
Wow that's weird, here in aus you only need to match one freq to get 3g. Do you know what t-mobile has done to require two bands to match? (its just my curiosity asking)
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Ah systemcrasher I think they might be load balancing the hspa+ mimo across the two freqs. Telstra nextg doesn't need to coz there's allot less people here.
If that's the case still should be allowed to fall back to a non mimo mode.
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That indeed is weird and inconvenient, but I guess telco's can setup their system however they like... It may have lot to do with number of people using mobile services. In OZ we have 22 million potential mobile users using 4 major telco companies, whereas in USA, they would get most of OZ population just in New York city, let alone rest of the country.
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EDIT: Here's the wikipedia article on AWS, which is the band T-Mobile uses for 3G/4G. In brief, AWS uses 1700 Mhz for uplink, and 2100 Mhz for downlink. So since it only gets half of the band, it won't do "4G".
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So the answer is the link to the wikipedia article in my quote above. It's not T-Mobile USA's doing per se - they just purchased the AWS-1 (also known as UMTS band IV) band of the spectrum. That's just the way this band is set up. Wind and Rogers in Canada also use this band.
Once unlocked,will the i777 be able to access data at 3G and 4G speeds on T-Mobile USA's cellular network?
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Once unlocked,will the i777 be able to access data at 3G and 4G speeds on T-Mobile USA's cellular network?
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to put it plainly,
NO
the i777 does not support the required bands for accessing TMobile's 3g/4g network.
Had the merger gone through, possibly. But as of right now, no.
Tmobile is on 1700MHz and 2100MHZ while AT&T is on 850MHz and 1900MHz.
No, and this is the case for every AT&T device in existence to my knowledge.
In fact, the ONLY device I know of that is not sold by T-Mobile and supports their HSPA bands is the GSM Galaxy Nexus, which is one of the first (if not the first) phones to do pentaband HSPA.
Personnally I tested the Unlock Process with a T-Mobile SimCard...not sure if working properly due to a operation range described by the fellows
Entropy512 said:
No, and this is the case for every AT&T device in existence to my knowledge.
In fact, the ONLY device I know of that is not sold by T-Mobile and supports their HSPA bands is the GSM Galaxy Nexus, which is one of the first (if not the first) phones to do pentaband HSPA.
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actually....
in even more bastardization provided by Samsung, the skyrocket can work on TMobile's 3/4G as long as you flash a TMo modem.bin to it.
jcomana said:
Personnally I tested the Unlock Process with a T-Mobile SimCard...not sure if working properly due to a operation range described by the fellows
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You can still get 2G on T-Mo because T-Mo uses the standard 850/1900 for 2G. What OP asks is 3G/4G.
Entropy512 said:
No, and this is the case for every AT&T device in existence to my knowledge.
In fact, the ONLY device I know of that is not sold by T-Mobile and supports their HSPA bands is the GSM Galaxy Nexus, which is one of the first (if not the first) phones to do pentaband HSPA.
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Actualy the T-Mobile version of the Samsung Galaxy SII Can work on AT&T`s 3G network. with BETTER Speeds than the AT&T version Data wise
hyelton said:
Actualy the T-Mobile version of the Samsung Galaxy SII Can work on AT&T`s 3G network. with BETTER Speeds than the AT&T version Data wise
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How is that an exception to what I'm saying. The T-Mobile version is not a device sold by AT&T, and is, by definition, a device sold by T-Mobile.
It's always been a bit easier to get T-Mo phones to work on AT&T - a number of them support the AT&T bands. But it's never been easy (and with the possible exception of the Skyrocket, never even possible) to go the other way without losing 3G.
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How is that an exception to what I'm saying. The T-Mobile version is not a device sold by AT&T, and is, by definition, a device sold by T-Mobile.
It's always been a bit easier to get T-Mo phones to work on AT&T - a number of them support the AT&T bands. But it's never been easy (and with the possible exception of the Skyrocket, never even possible) to go the other way without losing 3G.
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exactly. The skyrocket is the ONLY at&t phone i have seen that has this capability, and i have been hacking away on phones for a while, and i have both carriers
Pirateghost said:
to put it plainly,
NO
the i777 does not support the required bands for accessing TMobile's 3g/4g network.
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That would be the obvious answer based on the published specs, but I found an unselected listing in the hidden modem/ band settings for WCDMA 1700 MHz (Band IV) on my i777. I don't know if it works, but it's listed. From the phone keypad on the stock version, type in *#2263# and then look under Combinations. The phone lists 7 different GSM/PCS/WCDMA frequencies and only the obvious 5 are selected.
Anyone with an unlocked i777 on Tmo want to try it out?
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Even though there is a setting for wcdma on 1700, it doesn't seem to make a difference. Still stuck on edge.
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desertflyer said:
Even though there is a setting for wcdma on 1700, it doesn't seem to make a difference. Still stuck on edge.
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WCDMA is 2G/Edge technology. HSPA is 3G/4G technology.
maybe it will possible if we can flash a T-Mobile midem on out phone with out breaking it
jaysix79 said:
maybe it will possible if we can flash a T-Mobile midem on out phone with out breaking it
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Unlikely. Unless the phone has the hardware support for it.
I found out after extensive research on the Nexus One, that even though the radio chip inside it supports both frequency sets (pentaband, I suppose); the power amplifiers were only connected to certain frequency outputs, depending on the carrier it was advertised for. Which means even if I flashed a T-Mobile radio, the signal wouldn't be strong enough to get outside the case of the phone, let alone to a cell tower.
Your best bet is with European phones, as I believe they use the same frequencies as T-Mobile (since they're owned by a euro company).
Someone should confirm, but I would guess that the I9100 will work on T-Mobile with 3G.
Phoenix84118 said:
Unlikely. Unless the phone has the hardware support for it.
I found out after extensive research on the Nexus One, that even though the radio chip inside it supports both frequency sets (pentaband, I suppose); the power amplifiers were only connected to certain frequency outputs, depending on the carrier it was advertised for. Which means even if I flashed a T-Mobile radio, the signal wouldn't be strong enough to get outside the case of the phone, let alone to a cell tower.
Your best bet is with European phones, as I believe they use the same frequencies as T-Mobile (since they're owned by a euro company).
Someone should confirm, but I would guess that the I9100 will work on T-Mobile with 3G.
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No.
Tmo's AWS band its an odd ball. Only certain Canadian Carriers use the same band.
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Red5 said:
WCDMA is 2G/Edge technology. HSPA is 3G/4G technology.
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No, WCMDA = UMTS = pure vanilla 3G.
2G = GSM/GPRS
"2.5G" = EDGE
3G = vanilla UMTS (WCDMA)
3.5G = HSDPA
3.75G = HSPA+
3.9G (it's not really 4G) = LTE
true 4G = LTE Advanced
Most phones, even if they support advanced modulation schemes (HSPA, HSPA+) will list the band support as "UMTSxxxx or WCDMAxxxx"
I heard (it's actually confirmed, can't find the article), T-Mo has the same 3G bands as AT&T in some remote part of the USA, I think somewhere in Washington state, not sure though? The OP might want to move there
veliksam said:
I heard (it's actually confirmed, can't find the article), T-Mo has the same 3G bands as AT&T in some remote part of the USA, I think somewhere in Washington state, not sure though? The OP might want to move there
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That might explain why the Vibrant apparently supported one (but not both) of AT&T's bands.
As I understand it, unlike the N1, the international HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus is full-blown pentaband.
Tmo has roaming agreement with at&t. So it is possible in places there is no tmo tower, your tmo phone could roam to at&t tower without showing the roaming sign.
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I heard (it's actually confirmed, can't find the article), T-Mo has the same 3G bands as AT&T in some remote part of the USA, I think somewhere in Washington state, not sure though? The OP might want to move there
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First, noob, question.
My phone, XT910. Retail.en.EU, can use't in 4G network? when available in my country, Portugal
Tanks
Sorry, my bad English.
If you have an XT910, you don't have 4G. I don't know what networks are available in Portugal, but depending on what frequencies they run at, there's a chance you might not be able to get 3G, either (carrier dependent). Look up what carriers use what frequencies in Portugal...the XT910 has bands for 850/900/1900/2100 for 3G.
al3xx said:
If you have an XT910, you don't have 4G. I don't know what networks are available in Portugal, but depending on what frequencies they run at, there's a chance you might not be able to get 3G, either (carrier dependent). Look up what carriers use what frequencies in Portugal...the XT910 has bands for 850/900/1900/2100 for 3G.
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I have 3G.
I made a test with SPEEDTEST.NET.
Hit gave me HSPA 3495Kbps Down and 1633Kbps Up.
When I bought the phone I was convinced that would have 4G, I only realized it was not so here in the forum.
There is no way to update radio in order to run 4G?
Thanks
there is no way to upgrade and there is no 4g in portugal. By the time there will be 4g in portugal you will probably buy another phone.
Just relax and enjoy your phone or emigrate to USA )
MiGeCh said:
there is no way to upgrade and there is no 4g in portugal. By the time there will be 4g in portugal you will probably buy another phone.
Just relax and enjoy your phone or emigrate to USA )
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Too bad
It was launched by two networks, by the end of the year covers 90% of the national territory.
Thanks.
hi i have recently heard that since the ics update the droid razr is now a world phone. does this mean i can use my phone with a tmobile sim?
thanks
rehkhan97 said:
hi i have recently heard that since the ics update the droid razr is now a world phone. does this mean i can use my phone with a tmobile sim?
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Good question did you ever get a reply on this?
O think it only supports overseas such as the e.u. and all. I think you would only get 1x data no 3g
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DROID RAZR - UNLOCKED *DOES* WORK ON T-MOBILE USA and WIND MOBILE and V-TRON CANADA
Late thread revival... meant to respond to this one months ago! Whoops!
Anyway --- YES! This WILL indeed work with T-Mobile if you get the proper unlock code!
This has 4 different GSM frequency bands and 4 different UMTS frequency bands.
This means that you will get T-Mobile GPRS / EDGE coverage everywhere, T-Mobile 4G coverage in areas that are rolling over to 1900MHz as well as 3G roaming on AT&T in 850 and 1900MHz areas where T-Mobile doesn't have native coverage (Wausau, WI and Appleton, WI are two examples I can think of offhand)
Of course, you won't get LTE coverage, but you will get HSPA+ 4G / HSPA 3G and EDGE / GPRS on T-Mobile USA and Wind Mobile in Canada.
I'd like to try this.
Has anyone had verified success at this? I'd like to try if possible.
hilga007 said:
Late thread revival... meant to respond to this one months ago! Whoops!
Anyway --- YES! This WILL indeed work with T-Mobile if you get the proper unlock code!
This has 4 different GSM frequency bands and 4 different UMTS frequency bands.
This means that you will get T-Mobile GPRS / EDGE coverage everywhere, T-Mobile 4G coverage in areas that are rolling over to 1900MHz as well as 3G roaming on AT&T in 850 and 1900MHz areas where T-Mobile doesn't have native coverage (Wausau, WI and Appleton, WI are two examples I can think of offhand)
Of course, you won't get LTE coverage, but you will get HSPA+ 4G / HSPA 3G and EDGE / GPRS on T-Mobile USA and Wind Mobile in Canada.
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N7OKN said:
Has anyone had verified success at this? I'd like to try if possible.
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Not possible as of now.Neither anyone working on it that I know.
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Hi everybody,
The previous HOX was not supporting the 3G data on t-mobile due to lack of HSDPA 1700 as far as I realized. It seems that the same problem remains with the new HOX+ too since it cannot support HSDPA 1700.
Does anybody know something about it?
Thanks in advance
vivid80 said:
Hi everybody,
The previous HOX was not supporting the 3G data on t-mobile due to lack of HSDPA 1700 as far as I realized. It seems that the same problem remains with the new HOX+ too since it cannot support HSDPA 1700.
Does anybody know something about it?
Thanks in advance
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You should check the spec sheet at htc.com
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Here's a complete list of AWS carriers worldwide. You can count them on your fingers. If you were a manufacturer, would you go out of your way to include the AWS bands on your unlocked global phones?
Canada
Wind Mobile
Mobilicity
Videotron
United States
T-Mobile USA
Big River Broadband
Cincinnati Bell
Mosaic Telecom
Cricket Wireless
Chile
VTR
Nextel
vivid80 said:
Hi everybody,
The previous HOX was not supporting the 3G data on t-mobile due to lack of HSDPA 1700 as far as I realized. It seems that the same problem remains with the new HOX+ too since it cannot support HSDPA 1700.
Does anybody know something about it?
Thanks in advance
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airportal.de (site works on laptops but not good on phones at least for me)
I think when T-mobile refarms the area you live in this might give you 3g for unlocked ATT phones and international versions also.
954wrecker said:
airportal.de (site works on laptops but not good on phones at least for me)
I think when T-mobile refarms the area you live in this might give you 3g for unlocked ATT phones and international versions also.
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But it could take months or even years! Right?
vivid80 said:
But it could take months or even years! Right?
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Its popping up all over pretty fast. Central San Diego was empty until just a few days ago
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Its popping up all over pretty fast. Central San Diego was empty until just a few days ago
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I hope it goes as you said in our region. I've seen an AT&T version of HOX+ which will support more Network frequencies as well as LTE. Would it really matter in my case? Should I go with the unlocked AT&T version or an international version?
I'm waiting until the dust settles on the refarming and on the next batch of nexus phones. Then the selections and used prices should really improve.
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Now there is also a Telus HTC One X+.
Does anyone know if it will work on Wind Mobile in Canada?