if VZW released the DX2 in Europe (possibly with an unlocked BL) couldn't we use files off that phone to unlock our BL? (if any of this was released, of course!)
Also, the photon now has their BL unlocked, and the DX2 and Photon are cousins couldn't we try their method(s) to unlock our BL? Unless that's not possible at all.
Sorry guys, these are just random thoughts that have crossed through my head.
I don't think we could because VZW would probably put a different bl on the Europe version. And I think I read our kernel doesn't have an option to unlock it any ways, so we would need a new kernel that gets past the sig check, then try to unlock it. Could be wrong though. Still learning this stuff haha
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Verizon Wireless, who is an American Subsidiary wouldn't release a phone in Europe, lol. And Moto won't release the phone there because A. It is old news now, and B. They are predominantly a GSM region.
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I don't think we could because VZW would probably put a different bl on the Europe version. And I think I read our kernel doesn't have an option to unlock it any ways, so we would need a new kernel that gets past the sig check, then try to unlock it. Could be wrong though. Still learning this stuff haha
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so if our kernel wasn't unlockable then thered be no BL pudding for us unless we found the sbf that had an unlocked bl, correct?
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so if our kernel wasn't unlockable then thered be no BL pudding for us unless we found the sbf that had an unlocked bl, correct?
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I think so. But I'm not completely sure. I need to go back and read the bl notes thread.
But there are ways around it, like the theory of 2nd init starting a different kernel. So maybe some one could find a way around and we wouldn't have to wait for the SBF. But I think the SBF would come faster, if we get one.
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true, if the photon has a sbf that's been leaked then the DX2 has gotta have one as well, or at least that's a theory
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Yeah. Just gotta hope some one catches it off a server it gets it from the inside!
I'd be sick to see what this could do with an unlocked bl!
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IDMA.DROID.X2 said:
Yeah. Just gotta hope some one catches it off a server it gets it from the inside!
I'd be sick to see what this could do with an unlocked bl!
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well, I think i found a new update on the servers, 2.3.5 for the DX2, but who do i send it to?
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well, I think i found a new update on the servers, 2.3.5 for the DX2, but who do i send it to?
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Just saw your post in the other thread! Nice!! Send it to the guy who replied, and maybe send it to some ROM devs
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Gotcha, yeah, I figured I'd see what it it's all about, but you can't root it, pete's rooting tools wouldn't root nor unroot my phone, so i think the exploit was covered up, which def sucks.
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Gotcha, yeah, I figured I'd see what it it's all about, but you can't root it, pete's rooting tools wouldn't root nor unroot my phone, so i think the exploit was covered up, which def sucks.
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Yeah! Maybe some one can find another exploit that'll work. See if you can pull the update again and copy the update file to your PC and upload it to mediafire and post a link to it for anybody who's interested. I'd see if I could help, but I'm not at a PC.
How's it running with the update? Any noticeable changes?
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I'd tell you, but I had to sbf back to 2.3.4 to do anything that was relevant to unlocking the BL.
but I have overmind at the IRC, so i think i'ma try and pull the update again and not update and see if i can pull it.
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Yeah! Maybe some one can find another exploit that'll work. See if you can pull the update again and copy the update file to your PC and upload it to mediafire and post a link to it for anybody who's interested. I'd see if I could help, but I'm not at a PC.
How's it running with the update? Any noticeable changes?
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the only thing on 2.3.5 we found was a faster non-delayed lockscreen, but there may be more soon!
afaik the only markets the x2 was released was the united states and mexico.
I could be wrong though.
In the many threads we have on unlocking the bootloader there is much discussions that have been beaten to death about unlocking using other phones methods. Bottom line it just isn't possible due to kernel differences and hardware differences. Check the "project thread" in development section for more info about why.
there was a LOT of discussion about it around the time we got the ATRIX ports as well.
And the ring able to start a second kernel after ours starts needs kexec to work along with 2nd init. I don't believe 2nd init alone will be able to start a new kernel. People had worked on kexec I believe but it didn't go far. We need more of a team to get something like this wiring but as of now we have requested a couple dev teams to help us out but were told "not working on x2 at this time....busy with other projects" or something to that effect. Hopefully we will get that leaked sbf that has our unlock one day....I did hear a while ago from a little birdie that an sbf was found that had oem unlock option but it didn't work/unlock wasn't implemented so hopefully we are getting a little closer.
**don't ask me where I heard it...and don't ask for any links for proof...I have NO proof for what I say....just take it as it is....believe if u want or don't believe if u want....either way keep your eyes and ears peeled and keep trying to find us that unlock option....this phone could destroy many others if we get unlocked***
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Why were they able to root and unlock the boot loader and everything else on the thunderbolt so quickly but yet no one can do it on the atrix?
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Sorry, I don't know.
Because it's not locked or signed?
There's seems to be some discussion regarding it being locked or not. Engadget wrote an article about it being locked but there are a lot of comments from readers with evidence to the contrary.
With it being broken so fast, I believe it wasn't locked or signed.
Um. The phone is not unlocked. In fact the devs were in for a surprise to see the phone has signed bootloader. Signed karnel. Everything is sihned. Which is a furst for htc phone . The only thing they managed to do is root it. And they already did with the atrix. Once you have a signed bootloader and karnel. There is not much you can do.
The article was posted new today or yesterday at engadget. And nothing happened since then.
Its safe to assume all companies right now will use a locked bootloader and karnel. They dont want you to keep your phone. They want you to update.
So basically unless an employee leaks the codes we are s o l.that really sux.
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Android police is reporting that the Bootloader has been unlocked.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
Exactly and since the bootloader will never be unlocked on the Atrix then its going back next week. Suck it moto!
Right.So like I asked earlier, why were they able to unlock that one and not ours?
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Exactly and since the bootloader will never be unlocked on the Atrix then its going back next week. Suck it moto!
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Yea I'm in the same boat, I might just go back to my captivate in the next week. I really like this phone but I don't feel like much progress is being made. I know there are a few busting ass trying to crack this thing but that doesn't necessaraly mean theyre making progress. Although they did get a copy of that unlocked/deencrypted phone from ken so maybe we'll see something soon.
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most android hackers are on verizon, because they went in with android first. the least amount of android hackers are on at&t. also, they had better resources, they were leaked a beta bootloader that was unlocked, and also a previous ruu image (like sbf but for htc)
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Right.So like I asked earlier, why were they able to unlock that one and not ours?
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I don't know the true reason, but historically, HTC phones are more "open" and "hackable" than Motorola phones (excluding the original Droid). It's just a different company policy more than likely. Is this policy different with the Thunderbolt? I'm not sure...
there is a definitive difference between 'Locked' and 'Encrypted'
Ok so p3 said "Good Morning, and hang on to that DX2 folks: It will get an update and looks like its going to be 2.3.4 - no eta though." in theory what this means is that it might have an unlocked boot loader, if so, we just have to be patient this is only a guess and credit to finding this post goes to "quadjacks" again this is true speculation on my part...
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and for everyone wondering why the cwm for dx2 hasn't been released by me is because the restore feature can't mount the sd card, after this issue is fixed it will be released, if not i'll still probably release it soon if the dev of this app doesn't get back to me
Have a good one
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Not sure if it's a truly unlocked bootloader or a work-around to custom Rom's from what I've been reading. I could be wrong. I think the only way to get a true unlocked Bootloader is from Motorola and it looks like that's never going to happen..
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Not sure if it's a truly unlocked bootloader or a work-around to custom Rom's from what I've been reading. I could be wrong. I think the only way to get a true unlocked Bootloader is from Motorola and it looks like that's never going to happen..
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Except... That's exactly what people are saying WILL happen when Gingerbread comes. OR at least I'm pretty sure that's how the Atrix got it's unlock. It even had the "Warning" from Moto about the warranty violation.
We'll just have to wait and see
Hopefully it happens soon so that I can keep this and not spend 200 on the bionic or tbolt
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Moved to proper forum.
I doubt this means unlocked bootloader. It just means that a lot of the glitches/problems with the X2 will be resolved with this update, as well as the system utilizing both cores effectively. It should resolve the majority of issues X2 users have been suffering from. Now, considering p3 mentioned it, it does lead me to develop the idea that p3 has obtained a leak of the update and will be releasing within the next 2 weeks. The IT'S update is speculated to be here by the end of August.
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2 weeks! Thats awesome!! And what is that "IT'S" release u mentioned??
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it isnt august yet....
They it starts rolling out next week... legitly so unless p3 obtainted a dev version with an unlocked bl we are out of luck
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2 weeks! Thats awesome!! And what is that "IT'S" release u mentioned?
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I was wondering the same thing. Guess no one knows ;-) .
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which are you doing?
Definitely Staying For Now. Sounds Like P3 Wants To Root Gingerbread The Second It Drops Then I'll Upgrade.
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Definitely Staying For Now. Sounds Like P3 Wants To Root Gingerbread The Second It Drops Then I'll Upgrade.
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same here, i think
I'm having reboots every day on froyo. I don't think I have much to lose by upgrading.
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Im gonna take the update. I sbf'd last night. Im gonna try to save the update and install later. Im gonna see if the xda community can root it and I can go back to being bloat free
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Im not rommed but im rooted, but i hear lots of people talk about SBFing to stock so they can get the update, but if your just rooted doesnt it not matter?
EDIT, never owned a Droid and have always used phones with easily unlocked bootloaders so this whole SBF thing is new to me
My experience with other droids, You will get the update still but it might fail installing if you are rooted. Some custom roms remove the ota ability.
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Also theres a good chance the sbf will not work if you take the OTA update just ask the atrix users
No root, no upgrade. I've got my Honeycomb tablet rooted, rom'd, and OC'd faster than the phone, I can hold out until Verizon allows a full unlock if I have to.
How would the abc not work after the ota? DROID x users can sbf from .496 back to 2.3.340 .then again I understand this is a new phone .... and ATRIX users can't sbf back to 2.2? Wow.
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How would the abc not work after the ota? DROID x users can sbf from .496 back to 2.3.340 .then again I understand this is a new phone .... and ATRIX users can't sbf back to 2.2? Wow.
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abc? I'm assuming you mean sbf.
The x did lose their sbf ability, then they got a new one. Any time a OTA updates the bootloader, the current sbf becomes worthless. New bootloader needs a new sbf.
BTW so far this isn't 100% confirmed but it *looks* like the x2 gingerbread update contains a new bootloader, meaning it probably will hard brick your phone if you try to sbf. So if you already updated, have fun waiting for the dev team to find an exploit to root 2.3.4. You basically updated to a D3 minus the keyboard.
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Im gonna wait and see what happens with the updaters... Let them deal with what may come... I have downloaded the update from the link in another thread for when everything does get sorted out...
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abc? I'm assuming you mean sbf.
The x did lose their sbf ability, then they got a new one. Any time a OTA updates the bootloader, the current sbf becomes worthless. New bootloader needs a new sbf.
BTW so far this isn't 100% confirmed but it *looks* like the x2 gingerbread update contains a new bootloader, meaning it probably will hard brick your phone if you try to sbf. So if you already updated, have fun waiting for the dev team to find an exploit to root 2.3.4. You basically updated to a D3 minus the keyboard.
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+1 on that. I have NO plans to apply this update. I'm rooted and need to stay that way.
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abc? I'm assuming you mean sbf.
The x did lose their sbf ability, then they got a new one. Any time a OTA updates the bootloader, the current sbf becomes worthless. New bootloader needs a new sbf.
BTW so far this isn't 100% confirmed but it *looks* like the x2 gingerbread update contains a new bootloader, meaning it probably will hard brick your phone if you try to sbf. So if you already updated, have fun waiting for the dev team to find an exploit to root 2.3.4. You basically updated to a D3 minus the keyboard.
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Yep just ask the attic users which tried to sbf from 2.3.4 they all got a hard brick
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I don't plan on updating until GB is rooted.
Seems like a lot of people around the net upgraded not knowing it can't be rooted, or are disappointed in the update (for trivial reasons). I will wait to see what P3 is doing today with it via his Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/P3Droid
I am waiting. In cases like this I suspend my usual early adopter mentality. I'd like to be able to root and sbf. I bought the phone after I saw the sbf (and days before Verizon implemented tiered data) so I feel no need to cripple myself.
That said, I am envious of those playing with their "new" phones today.
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well i voted i was going to stay (rooted and affinity rom), but i broke down and upgraded... havent regretted it yet
To bad this isn't 2.3.4 its 2.3.3 one reason I haven't upgraded yet I want all the new blur features or im keeping root.
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There's a new update for the Motorola Electrify that gives you 1080p video recording and prevents you from removing Motorola's bloatware and unroots the phone. If you have unlocked your bootloader you might want to skip it, but if the phone is just rooted it should install. I tried to update and I got the green android with a exclamation mark inside a triangle. I had to pull the battery and restore my back I made through CWM. If you just try and reboot it just tries to install the update again. You can root it again using the torpedo method, so I've read, I've not personally tried it.
I was part of the trial update team and I can tell you that after the update I still had root. I lost root about two days after the update, not sure why...but then used the torpedo process again and rooted no problem. Have had no problems since.
well apparently someone was able to re-unlock there bootloader after the 2.3.5 update on another forum, trying to get info.
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There's a new update for the Motorola Electrify that gives you 1080p video recording and prevents you from removing Motorola's bloatware and unroots the phone. If you have unlocked your bootloader you might want to skip it, but if the phone is just rooted it should install. I tried to update and I got the green android with a exclamation mark inside a triangle. I had to pull the battery and restore my back I made through CWM. If you just try and reboot it just tries to install the update again. You can root it again using the torpedo method, so I've read, I've not personally tried it.
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Lucky bastards! wonder when we'll get it.
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well apparently someone was able to re-unlock there bootloader after the 2.3.5 update on another forum, trying to get info.
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Jocker is working on development thread
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Motorola does big things for any carrier but Sprint, I'm surprised we even have this phone on Sprint. They LOVE Verizon, what do we get squat!
Why can't we have 1080p recording?
[rant]SCREW YOU MOTOROLA[/rant]
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Motorola does big things for any carrier but Sprint, I'm surprised we even have this phone on Sprint. They LOVE Verizon, what do we get squat!
Why can't we have 1080p recording?
[rant]SCREW YOU MOTOROLA[/rant]
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+1 bastards!
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I have my bootloader unlocked, that's why I believe mine messed up and had to restore from CWM. I'm on USCC and probably won't ever switch. We supposed to be getting ICS after the first of the year. I can't wait to try it!
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We do have 1080p but im going to pull the updated stuff from jokerstock-alpha and make update zips. 1080p will be one of the updates.
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Motorola does big things for any carrier but Sprint, I'm surprised we even have this phone on Sprint. They LOVE Verizon, what do we get squat!
Why can't we have 1080p recording?
[rant]SCREW YOU MOTOROLA[/rant]
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Did this update also add the video chat feature though g chat?
Is there anything else new that got added? And does your led light work as advertised in the book?
I had root via the one click method. After the update I had no root.
I tried the one click process again - no root.
I used the torpedo method and viola, root again.
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We do have 1080p but im going to pull the updated stuff from jokerstock-alpha and make update zips. 1080p will be one of the updates.
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Are you saying that you can give me 1080p HD Recording in a Bootstrap-flashable update.zip file?
*I hope that this is what you mean!!!* I will die on the floor right now if this is what you mean, and I will go on top of a mountain and scream "I LOVE JOKERSAX11 from the XDA Developer Forums on the Motorola Photon 4G Forums!!!"
EDIT: I will come back from the dead and then, I will go on top of a mountain and scream "I LOVE JOKERSAX11 from the XDA Developer Forums on the Motorola Photon 4G Forums!!!"
Please dont. You could always grab the new camera and camera related files from 254. Use root explorer. You need to edit the build.prop. ill make something soon enough.
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Are you saying that you can give me 1080p HD Recording in a Bootstrap-flashable update.zip file?
*I hope that this is what you mean!!!* I will die on the floor right now if this is what you mean, and I will go on top of a mountain and scream "I LOVE JOKERSAX11 from the XDA Developer Forums on the Motorola Photon 4G Forums!!!"
EDIT: I will come back from the dead and then, I will go on top of a mountain and scream "I LOVE JOKERSAX11 from the XDA Developer Forums on the Motorola Photon 4G Forums!!!"
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Please dont. You could always grab the new camera and camera related files from 254. Use root explorer. You need to edit the build.prop. ill make something soon enough.
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I'm just kidding, lol, let me know know what you can whip up! Thanks a bunch!!!!
Alright, I'm tired of this bootloader crap! I need anyone and everyone interested in helping me get this MoPho'in bootloader unlocked on 2.3.5!
We have WAY to many people stuck on GB (after Moto said we'd have ICS ) on this beast of a phone!
Before anyone asks, YES i have the skills to do this, just not enough to do it quickly.
With that said I do bring some skills to the table.
I can program in the Android language and port just about anything anyone can come up with.
I know my tech (to put it short)
Please anyone with the same feeling as me, come help me out in ANY way possible. Even if it's just testing. I would greatly appreciate it!
Please people!
I am not a dev. But I would be glad to help. As a suggestion, Perhaps we could start by finding a solution for unlocking mophos that were factory shipped with 2.35 such as is done with the electrify. It could provide a lot of insight.
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Awesome. I need time to check out the electrify system. I'll post my findings soon
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im not a dev either but if there's anything you need that i can help out with let me know.
Hmm well I learned that sprint was a big reason the BL got locked. The Electrify sbf (Yes i flashed it) is unlockable easily however my radios dont work so i cant have that. I did find some cool things inside the System partition. I rooted it up and got a file browser (ES). The blocks where the BL is has a special file called infooemenc.encf assuming this has to do with our "fastboot oem unlock" command problem. That file however was a fluke. My phone soft reset itself (doesnt like the Electrify rom) and POOF gone... Very suspicious. i had to relock to go back to photon state though
Add me to the crew. I'm happy to help as a dev, or otherwise if we need something else.
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Add me to the crew. I'm happy to help as a dev, or otherwise if we need something else.
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Sweet! The crew is growing! We may be able to get this done!
Could anyone try and help me find the 2.3.5 254_13 sunfire (Sprint) Sbf file i wanna compare the soak to the Electrify unlockable
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Perhaps we could start by finding a solution for unlocking mophos that were factory shipped with 2.35 such as is done with the electrify. It could provide a lot of insight.
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What's funny is that point exactly. We can unlock factory shipped electrifys and ones with the right sbf
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Hmm well I learned that sprint was a big reason the BL got locked. The Electrify sbf (Yes i flashed it) is unlockable easily however my radios dont work so i cant have that. I did find some cool things inside the System partition. I rooted it up and got a file browser (ES). The blocks where the BL is has a special file called infooemenc.encf assuming this has to do with our "fastboot oem unlock" command problem. That file however was a fluke. My phone soft reset itself (doesnt like the Electrify rom) and POOF gone... Very suspicious. i had to relock to go back to photon state though
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wait what?
you do realize the same phone shipped months earlier on a different carrier and was locked? (and then was released later too).
moto's first device to offer unlocking services was a sprint device. rather than jumping on teh locked samsung bandwagon they are still one of teh few companies that have most of their devices unlockable. as well as their tech support doesnt care if you are rooted as if its a software issue they are going to flash stock.
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wait what?
you do realize the same phone shipped months earlier on a different carrier and was locked? (and then was released later too).
moto's first device to offer unlocking services was a sprint device. rather than jumping on teh locked samsung bandwagon they are still one of teh few companies that have most of their devices unlockable. as well as their tech support doesnt care if you are rooted as if its a software issue they are going to flash stock.
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Yes I know but there was a slight difference in the 2.3.5 factory Electrify that somehow caused an exploit (when i said it was easy i meant it was for me)
But still on the current matter we want this BL unlocked and there HAS to be a way! That's why people are joining up. They wanna be out of the hole Moto decided to throw us into. (After lying about ICS)
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Could anyone try and help me find the 2.3.5 254_13 sunfire (Sprint) Sbf file i wanna compare the soak to the Electrify unlockable
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Looking, but also found this along the away:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/photon4g.motorola/files/PHOTON-4G/4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13/
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Looking, but also fund this along the away:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/photon4g.motorola/files/PHOTON-4G/4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13/
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This is the Sprint version?! :victory::fingers-crossed:
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wait what?
you do realize the same phone shipped months earlier on a different carrier and was locked? (and then was released later too).
moto's first device to offer unlocking services was a sprint device. rather than jumping on teh locked samsung bandwagon they are still one of teh few companies that have most of their devices unlockable. as well as their tech support doesnt care if you are rooted as if its a software issue they are going to flash stock.
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Oh and also i just dont like how Moto and Sprint are just so mean to us :crying:
No, just files they had to supply as open source.
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No, just files they had to supply as open source.
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Dang I wanna get the full sbf lemme see what files they got here...
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I spy with my little eye a kernel file hehehe wonder what we might do with that??
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Is this the rom you are looking for?
Is this the rom you are looking for?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30332325
To devs:
Instead of trying to find a way to crack the boot loader why can we make a boot able sdcard that works around the bootloader? Like for the nooks the bootloader is still locked but we can run custom ROMs off the sdcard without any problems.. Just a thought..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2063968
Subscribed, glad to see some new action around here.
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