Hi,
I bought the Sony S1 tablet yesterday and for my great dissapointment I found out today that it is unable to smoothly play HD video
I tried 720p video with the following specs:
Code:
Format : Matroska
File size : 1.88 GiB
Duration : 43mn 24s
Overall bit rate : 6 203 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-10-30 05:14:25
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.0.2 ('You're My Flame') built on Feb 21 2007 23:40:55
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 43mn 22s
Bit rate : 5 564 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 59.940 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.101
Writing library : x264 core 119 r2106 07efeb4
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:2:2 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=10 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=5 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=22.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 43mn 24s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
The players I used were Daroon Player and the original stock Video player and I'm on Honeycomb 3.2.
Playback was very choppy and no audio.
What's your experience with HD video on S1 tablet? Any ideas, how to improve it?
Try mx video player, free from market.
Works great for me!
I found the same issue. A 1080p mkv that plays smoothly on my SGS2 phone stutters awfully on the tablet. I've tried all the suggested video players without success. I'm very disappointed. I hope it's just a SW issue that gets resolved in an update.
sandstroem said:
Try mx video player, free from market.
Works great for me!
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Thanks, will try it, but I doubt it's any good... I guess it's a codec or some 3.2 quirk...
EDIT:
Tried it and no, it did not help- same choppy video with no sound.
I'm wondering is it supposed to play AC3 sound out of a box?
EDIT2:
In mx player there are some options that I can choose: h/w decoder, s/w docoder and s/w decoder (fast).
When I choose software decoder, then I have sound for like 10 seconds And the picture looks *little bit* less choppier...
I Checked it good reviews and it looks good just have to wait to give me my tablet
It is the tegra 2 chips problem. It can't play High @L5.0 Profile Video..Cause i was P990 user.
You have to convert your video to Divx / XviD MP4.
AVC is no suitable to play higher than 3000kbps
Had the same issues... hence why I returned my tablet a long time ago...
Concerning the HD movies I've come to a conclusion, that it is practically impossible to watch them on the S1 tablet, since the majority of 720p are over 4GB and 1080p movies over 8GB, you really have no way of getting them inside your device.
You cannot store a file that's larger than 4GB on the S1's internal USB storage and Android can only read FAT32 formatted external memory (SD Cards or USB storage devices), so you cannot place your HD movies there either, because of the 4GB limitation of FAT32 file system. (I have tried to format SD card to exFAT, NTFS, Ext2, Ext3 and Ext4, but Android just won't recognize media formatted this way; Actually I'm very confused why it didn't recognize native linux Ext* partitions?).
And since we don't have root, we cannot mount external samba shares either...
So you're stuck and can only watch media with size under 4GB and with lower video bitrates.
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Is my conclusion correct or is there currently a way to watch HD movies with file size over 4GB on S1?
I've downloaded blu-ray rips at under 4gb and watched them on my 42" tv, and they looked great. Now obviously they're not going to be as good as watching the disc itself, but if they're good enough to watch on a 42" tv and still look like good quality HD, then I'm sure they're good enough to watch on a 9" screen! You really shouldn't need anything above the 720p version - the Sony Tablet's screen is a lower resolution than 1920*1080 so couldn't display a 1080p file to it's full potential anyway.
Hope this helps!
Agreed.
Just that... my entire movie collection is at least 720p Just have to re-encode then I guess.
Guitardave, I totally take your point about the screen not being capable of displaying the full res of 1080p. But for me that's kinda like saying theres no point watching Bluray on an HD Ready (720p) tv because it can't display the full resolution. I don't really want to spend hours transcoding films to watch on the tablet when I go away, and be limited to just watching those which have been done.
It's just a shame, that's all. I expect the next model will cope without any problems. This aside, i'm still impressed and happy with he tab overall.
Just as an experiment, it would be good to download a movie trailer in 720p, and then the same trailer in 1080p, and see if you can actually see any difference in picture quality. I doubt it personally, on such a small screen (as opposed to, say, a 50" tv). Better still, do a blind test - get someone else to start the clips playing, and you make a call as to which is which...
Of course you won't notice the difference on such a small screen, but that's not the point.
The point is, you have to waste time re-encoding your movies to watch them on the go
I've got 720p mkv files to play on mx video player. Just had to switch the audio to sw. Video can be done with hardware no problem Looks amazing
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for those who say you can not leave a tutorial here I hope I never have problems with the links as I see that nobody can run hd 1080
http://www.todops3.com/foros/showthread.php?t=30881
I am able to play full 1080p HD video just fine on my sony tablet s. Using the stock video player too. No problem. No lag, no choppy frame-rate. You just need to convert your video to the right codec for tablet. If you go to PlayStation store from your PS3 and download free 1080P trailers and transfer it to your tablet you'll see that it plays perfect! To use the same codec that Sony uses for their HD video trailers in the PlayStation store, I use AVS video converter to convert my video for my sony tablet. And it works flawlessly. But most of my video are already that format so I never really have to convert all of them.
Just load any video in AVS video Converter, select convert to MP4, Under profile select for "tablet", select 1080p resolution(1920x1080p), select mp4 iso v.2-H.264/AVC codec. set the bitrate higher if you want better video qaulity and click convert.
Now you'll have a 1080p video that is perfectly optimized for your Sony tablet.
Thanks, but it still does not solve my main problems. Wasted time on video conversion and the 4GB file limit
Well I guess you would have to slit the movie into two parts if it's a long movie. The codec I use in the method above also compress the file size of the video. I have a 6 minute full 1080p HD video that looks great and it's only around 150MB, so a 1 hour movie would be around 1.5GB? I'm not that great with math. But anyways, it keeps the quality good while lowering the file size, which is good.
I know video conversion can be a waste of time but it's better than waiting for an update or a proper solution. We'll just have to deal with what we can do right now.
I used vplayer for my hd videos. Works well but sound goes out of sync when I adjust volume. I havve to restart vplayer.
try dice player I tried 720p video and it works with my tablet S make sure download tegra2 plugin
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i am unable to play 1080p videos. either the player says the video cannot be played or the video plays but with a lot of lag. i have tried both in mkv and mp4 format. im using folio mod 1.4 and fix for this?
What bitrate are you using when playing MP4 files in 1080p?
I've been able to play 1080p using either MOV or MP4 with the Toshiba Media Player.
mddsd said:
What bitrate are you using when playing MP4 files in 1080p?
I've been able to play 1080p using either MOV or MP4 with the Toshiba Media Player.
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the bitrate of the video im trying to play is 4996kbps.
mddsd said:
What bitrate are you using when playing MP4 files in 1080p?
I've been able to play 1080p using either MOV or MP4 with the Toshiba Media Player.
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It just hit me! its cuz the video file is in my external micro sdhc which is only class 2 so that cant cope with the data rate required for the video.. will try and place the video in internal mmc and see what happens!
mazlano27 said:
It just hit me! its cuz the video file is in my external micro sdhc which is only class 2 so that cant cope with the data rate required for the video.. will try and place the video in internal mmc and see what happens!
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Yes class 2 would probably not be fast enough. I'm using class 6 and that works fine with MOV and MP4 in 1080p. I'm not sure about the bitrate but it would probably be in the same range as your file.
1080p in mp4 works fine on my device, although it FCs after a few seconds both with mVideoplayer and Toshiba Media Player when I try to play mkv files. Is that a known problem?
mddsd, dj_jokke, can you try to play this file?
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0O29FVN3
It's a 1080p .MOV file from a Canon 550D, it contains a h264 track with a bitrate of 45mbps, and a PCM track of 1.5mbps
Can you try to play it and tell me if it runs smooth? I need a tablet like this to watch videos of the camera without carrying a notebook
The ipad and the iphone4 can play that file flawlessly, but I want android that does the same
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mddsd, dj_jokke, can you try to play this file?
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0O29FVN3
It's a 1080p .MOV file from a Canon 550D, it contains a h264 track with a bitrate of 45mbps, and a PCM track of 1.5mbps
Can you try to play it and tell me if it runs smooth? I need a tablet like this to watch videos of the camera without carrying a notebook
The ipad and the iphone4 can play that file flawlessly, but I want android that does the same
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I've tried your 1080p .MOV file and the Folio can play it (I'm not sure about the sound).
Although every 4 second there is a freeze in the video for about a split second.
It's enough to get annoyed when watching the video...
Tegra 250 has some known limitations when it comes to high profile video.
A video with a bitrate of 45 mps would probably fall into the category of high profile video.
Although I'm not quite sure if this is the reason for the slight freeze in playback.
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I've tried your 1080p .MOV file and the Folio can play it (I'm not sure about the sound).
Although every 4 second there is a freeze in the video for about a split second.
It's enough to get annoyed when watching the video...
Tegra 250 has some known limitations when it comes to high profile video.
A video with a bitrate of 45 mps would probably fall into the category of high profile video.
Although I'm not quite sure if this is the reason for the slight freeze in playback.
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Thanks a lot for trying!!
This is the info of the video track, its a Baseline 5.0 h264 stream. Maybe tegra 250 supports it 1080p decoding even at baseline 5.0, but can't do a smooth playback with 45mbps.
Code:
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 3mn 50s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 45.7 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Original height : 1 088 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Original display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.736
Stream size : 1.23 GiB (97%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2011-02-14 00:02:28
Tagged date : UTC 2011-02-14 00:02:28
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Does anyone know of a solid video player for .avi, mp4 and such?
Thanks,
Larry
diceplayer. plays every file i threw at it (at least the ones i use. lol)
don't know about solid but except for sometimes lagging (think old martial arts films) audio syncing QQ player works and is free
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diceplayer. plays every file i threw at it (at least the ones i use. lol)
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giving it a spin then
edit won't play .flv
Give Mobi player a try. It has a nice interface and has played all the MP4 and avi movies i have thrown at it.
rockplayer will play anything
Is there a player that will actually play wmv's without lagging? Or is that just an android thing?
vplayer and Qplayer
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Is there a player that will actually play wmv's without lagging? Or is that just an android thing?
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had helluva lagging trying a 180mb .mkv with rockplayer then audio fell out altogether same file as a .flv played sweetly
both files using software mode ..just bluetoothed the wildlife.wmv to the 3vo same problem with rockplayer audio fell out but the video played smoothly ..no option this time to choose hardware vs. software
edit just tried vplayer on the .wmv played smooth then 3/4 in audio dropped out the .mkv was choppy and audio way out of sync ..
wondering if this is fixable thru performance settings ..oops no root on this unit so nothing but "power saving" options
Mobo Player
I just tried MObO player and so far so good. Although, I only watched a couple of minutes of a .Mp4 movie. I need to watch the whole thing to verify if voice drops in the middle. Let you all know.. Thanks for the replies.
Larry
Diceplayer
Diceplayer use HW Video decoder at any container format + Audio decoder.
If you want to play MKV(+DTS+H.264)
all of player except diceplayer use sw video decoder.
sw video decoder use Huge CPU Power & Battery. and can't play well HD quality video.
Diceplayer can play 720p H.264 + DTS/Flac/OGG video flawlessly.
check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126113
Is there a player other than the one that came on 3vo that plays in 3d or can adjust sbs to 3d because I know the built in player does not like .wmv
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I use Mobo player also.
For 3D though I convert to MP4 and use the gallery player.
Mobo player though, played every video I through at it. Also has the ability to encode/play on the fly but that process is laggy.
i live by Vplayer
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Is there a player that will actually play wmv's without lagging? Or is that just an android thing?
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wmv files have been problematic with most Android devices. Only device I have seen it work perfectly on is the SGS2. One good thing about Samsung is they include pretty much every codec you can imagine. I wish HTC did a better job with supporting the various codecs
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i live by Vplayer
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Totally Agree!!
yeah i used dice player its way above rockplayer imho
played this file no problems
Mediainfo
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Unique ID : 254581864682643229451301939366555868590 (0xBF86AF039F58D439ACDBC6088C90DDAE)
Complete name : G:\movies\hd-bluray-m-HD\Insidious.2010.720p.AC3.x264-UNiT3D\Insidious.2010.720p.AC3.x264-UNiT3D.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 2.62 GiB
Duration : 1h 42mn
Overall bit rate : 3 642 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-06-28 18:14:35
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.5.0 ('Speed of Light') built on Feb 1 2011 02:10:32
Writing library : libebml v1.2.0 + libmatroska v1.1.0
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 42mn
Bit rate : 3 000 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 528 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.185
Stream size : 2.10 GiB (80%)
Title : UNiT3D-999
Writing library : x264 core 115 r2008 4c552d8
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=3000 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=40000 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 42mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 471 MiB (18%)
Title : UNiT3D-999
Language : English
Text #1
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : UNiT3D-999
Language : English
Text #2
ID : 4
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : UNiT3D-999
Language : English
Text #3
ID : 5
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : UNiT3D-999
Language : Spanish
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Vplayer all the way
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Vplayer all the way
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in sw decoding. vPlayer is the best player.
it can use dual core. and ffmpeg optimization is very good.
but vPlayer can't use HW decoder when it play unsupported format.
if you play MP4(H.264/AAC). vPlayer or StockPlayer can play HD (720p).
but it play MKV(H.264+DTS), vPlayer can not use HW decoder.
it decode h.264 using sw decoder.
sw decoder use battery too much.
But, Diceplayer use HW decoder.
it can play HD MKV(+DTS/FLAC/AC3). and use less battery - almost same as stock player. but Evo 3D's SoC have only MPEG-4/H.264 HW Decoder.
so If you want to play non-standard video codec like RMVB , FLV , VP7 or something, vPlayer is the best choice.
but you want to play MPEG-4/H.264 video codec, diceplayer is the best.
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in sw decoding. vPlayer is the best player.
it can use dual core. and ffmpeg optimization is very good.
but vPlayer can't use HW decoder when it play unsupported format.
if you play MP4(H.264/AAC). vPlayer or StockPlayer can play HD (720p).
but it play MKV(H.264+DTS), vPlayer can not use HW decoder.
it decode h.264 using sw decoder.
sw decoder use battery too much.
But, Diceplayer use HW decoder.
it can play HD MKV(+DTS/FLAC/AC3). and use less battery - almost same as stock player. but Evo 3D's SoC have only MPEG-4/H.264 HW Decoder.
so If you want to play non-standard video codec like RMVB , FLV , VP7 or something, vPlayer is the best choice.
but you want to play MPEG-4/H.264 video codec, diceplayer is the best.
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Diceplayer is legit.
blacksuntzu said:
Give Mobi player a try. It has a nice interface and has played all the MP4 and avi movies i have thrown at it.
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Link to market please? I searched and couldn't find it?
I've been trying to find the best encoding settings for HD/720p H.264 video for G Tablet with Handbrake and I'm not having much luck. I've followed this article for Notion's tablet (since its also a Tegra 2 tablet) and while the picture is great the playback is jittery. I tried lowing the RF (under Constant Quality) to 25 but it produces the same jitters.
Changing the video codec from H.264 to MPEG-4 (FFmpeg) actually produces little to no playback issues but the picture quality isn't as great (its still good though), but I prefer to use H.264.
Any one have any luck encoding HD H.264 video for their G Tablet? If so, can you share your settings?
Thanks in advance
P.S. - I'm running VEGAn-Tab 5.1.1 and using VPlayer, RockPlayer and QQPlayer to play back the videos (they're all suffering from jittery playback).
h.264 mp4 format
size: 1024*600
bitrate: 2500
Frame rate: 30
sample rate: 44100
this is a view sonic special proset from foxreal video tool, for your refenrence
I want to convert some anime with .ass subtitles for playback on the SGS2, so I'll have to hardcode them into the video, but what are the best settings for the best quality? H264 or Xvid? Mkv, mp4 or avi? I'm using StaxRip, but I'm willing to use other converters.
Afaik subtitles don't have to be hardsubs. Softsubs should work on stock player, or at least with other players such as mvideoplayer, diceplayer, vplayer, rockplayer...
But I've read they don't show through HDMI when hardware decoding is used.
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Those subs come with all the fancy stuff, karaoke, typsetting you know. I don't if they work because my SGS2 is still on its way to get here, but because I'm going on holiday very soon, I'd like to have my video's pre-encoded so that I can drop them onto my phone and play.
Yea, the advanced styled ones don't work. The fancy anime karaoke subs are most of the time baked into the video. The fancy effects are nearly impossible to do real-time.
Convert them to srt and they'll work, but that'll surely ef up your subtitles overall. Just bake them into the videos with some nice tools available at video-help.com (amazing site).
I was originally planning to hardcode them into the video, but I want to know which settings, what is the best container and format? I don't want the video to be effed up. At what settings do you usually encode video's or movies for the SGS2?
Can anybody help me?
Asking witch one is best is not easy to answer.
I encode my HD music videos to 720p mkv , high-profile 3.1 x264 or H264 (same thing i think).
For reference SGS1 and 2 , can play "high profile x264(mkv) [email protected] fps" , SGS2 can play MP4 [email protected] (had no success with 1080p x264).
Decoding HD video does take more processing power and eats thro battery faster. If you want max battery encode in "baseline MP4" and aim for 800x450 or under depending on aspect ratio.
Encoding with "high-profile x264 (mkv)" will result in lower file size and much better video quality then "baseline (mp4). SO its up to you if you want max battery or max quality.
Most anime and movies from Internet will play without any transcoding mkv,xvid,avi,divx.
If you get free 3rd party video player from market my personal favorite "mVideoPlayer" it uses SGS2 hardware samsung codecs to play media also support for
Subtitle Support: srt, ssa, ass, sub/idx, mpl, smi, txt, sub, sami.
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SGS2 has best media compatibility of all the phones but it still can't match versatility of PC.
Some badly encoded videos with none standard settings custom compression matrix ect. will not play or play with artifacts, in that case try one of the software players that don't use samsung codecs "Moboplayer" or "Diceplayer"
As for encoding/transcoding videos i use "MeGUI" but its not noob friendly. There are several noob friendlier converters but i found them lacking.
Anyway don't waist time transcoding if you don't have SGS2 , wait untill you get it test your media and only then transcode
ghost77 said:
Asking witch one is best is not easy to answer.
I encode my HD music videos to 720p mkv , high-profile 3.1 x264 or H264 (same thing i think).
For reference SGS1 and 2 , can play "high profile x264(mkv) [email protected] fps" , SGS2 can play MP4 [email protected] (had no success with 1080p x264).
Decoding HD video does take more processing power and eats thro battery faster. If you want max battery encode in "baseline MP4" and aim for 800x450 or under depending on aspect ratio.
Encoding with "high-profile x264 (mkv)" will result in lower file size and much better video quality then "baseline (mp4). SO its up to you if you want max battery or max quality.
Most anime and movies from Internet will play without any transcoding mkv,xvid,avi,divx.
If you get free 3rd party video player from market my personal favorite "mVideoPlayer" it uses SGS2 hardware samsung codecs to play media also support for SGS2 has best media compatibility of all the phones but it still can't match versatility of PC.
Some badly encoded videos with none standard settings custom compression matrix ect. will not play or play with artifacts, in that case try one of the software players that don't use samsung codecs "Moboplayer" or "Diceplayer"
As for encoding/transcoding videos i use "MeGUI" but its not noob friendly. There are several noob friendlier converters but i found them lacking.
Anyway don't waist time transcoding if you don't have SGS2 , wait untill you get it test your media and only then transcode
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Thank you for your explanation! Say, if I encode one video with high-profile x264, [email protected],976fps, it would work on the SGS2? Is it better to have mp4 or mkv with this? Can I send you two of the same videos for you to try on the SGS2?
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Thank you for your explanation! Say, if I encode one video with high-profile x264, [email protected],976fps, it would work on the SGS2? Is it better to have mp4 or mkv with this? Can I send you two of the same videos for you to try on the SGS2?
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Yes if you upload them to something like megaupload or mediafire i can test it for you, you can PM me links.
high-profile x264, [email protected],976fps
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SGS2 will play that easy. If you encode with above settings it doesn't matter if its mp4 or mkv as those are only containers your encode will be "high-profile x264".
Benefit of mkv is you can integrate soft subtitles that can be turned on or off. If subtitles are hardcoded then there is no noticeable difference.
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Yes if you upload them to something like megaupload or mediafire i can test it for you, you can PM me links.
SGS2 will play that easy. If you encode with above settings it doesn't matter if its mp4 or mkv as those are only containers your encode will be "high-profile x264".
Benefit of mkv is you can integrate soft subtitles that can be turned on or off. If subtitles are hardcoded then there is no noticeable difference.
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Uploading now as we speak, ~10 minutes left on this crappy connection. The videos are the same, but one is in mp4 and the other mkv. Just want to make sure which one to go for. By the way, is there a noticable difference in quality if I encode in 1280x720? I can easily encode this, so if you want I can provide one in 720p too?
I've played different formats with SGS1 and SGS2 with different types of encoding and just basic divx, there seems to be barely any difference in power consumption, probably the HW decoding is very efficient that it barely adds power usage.
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Uploading now as we speak, ~10 minutes left on this crappy connection. The videos are the same, but one is in mp4 and the other mkv. Just want to make sure which one to go for. By the way, is there a noticable difference in quality if I encode in 1280x720? I can easily encode this, so if you want I can provide one in 720p too?
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SGS2 screen resolution is 800x480 , there is no benefit from 720p or higher unless you intent to connect your SGS2 to TV.
Both videos play identically with my eyes i see no noticeable difference
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SGS2 screen resolution is 800x480 , there is no benefit from 720p or higher unless you intent to connect your SGS2 to TV.
Both videos play identically with my eyes i see no noticeable difference
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I think I will go with mkv then. Thank you very much for testing, now I can encode episodes without worrying if they work/don't work. Thank you!
Btw, the audio in the video isn't out of sync, is it? I've tested a 640x360 mkv file on my Galaxy Ace, but the video stutters and is out of sync. This isn't happening on the SGS2, right? Just want to make sure.
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I think I will go with mkv then. Thank you very much for testing, now I can encode episodes without worrying if they work/don't work. Thank you!
Btw, the audio in the video isn't out of sync, is it? I've tested a 640x360 mkv file on my Galaxy Ace, but the video stutters and is out of sync. This isn't happening on the SGS2, right? Just want to make sure.
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Clip was fairly short i didn't notice anything strange , if you want feel free to upload full episode ill check again.
Following song lyrics sound is spot on.
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Clip was fairly short i didn't notice anything strange , if you want feel free to upload full episode ill check again.
Following song lyrics sound is spot on.
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Okay, I'll provide you with an encoding of episode 01, expect the link tomorrow. I hope it works flawlessly. Thank you for finding some time to test this for me!
In case someone else finds this useful info. This test was successful.
MKV Video plays without lag , audio in sync, no problems encountred.
PHP:
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 6 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 24mn 11s
Width : 848 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 116 r2019 9cc407d
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.40:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=5 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.60
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 24mn 11s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Language : Japanese
Thank you for testing! I'm so happy it works! Thank you!
You didn't encounter any artifacts etc?
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I want to convert some anime with .ass subtitles for playback on the SGS2, so I'll have to hardcode them into the video, but what are the best settings for the best quality? H264 or Xvid? Mkv, mp4 or avi? I'm using StaxRip, but I'm willing to use other converters.
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What device you want to put on?
And the StaxRip haven't get the default setting for the need formats for device?
Well, what Im using is Aneesoft, have many preset for different devices, so I just need to choose the need format as output.
Would any Prime owner play a 1080p MKV through HDMI to your HDTV, and confirm that it is indeed 1080p and not downscaled 720p?
Assuming that it is playing in software mode, can the Teg3 play a 1080p high profile video smoothly?
Lastly, again assuming SW mode, do you get 5.1 audio (AC3 or DTS) through HDMI?
To test for 5.1 audio, please play both the attached 5.1 WMA and AC3 clips through HDMI. The test clip will say "front left", "center", "front right", etc through only the respective channel. You should also hear an audible sound at the end through your subwoofer (assuming your setup has one).
TIA.
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Would any Prime owner play a 1080p MKV through HDMI to your HDTV, and confirm that it is indeed 1080p and not downscaled 720p?
Assuming that it is playing in software mode, can the Teg3 play a 1080p high profile video smoothly?
Lastly, again assuming SW mode, do you get 5.1 audio (AC3 or DTS) through HDMI?
TIA.
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the prime can play the 1080p profile you mentioned with no problem. as far as HDMI goes, not sure.
can not answer the question about HDMI. But perhaps help when it comes to audio and video formats.
From swedroid.se test, and translated into English.
"As is the case for the music player, Asus do net onclude their own video players, but instead uses default player that comes with Android. This is a rather rowdy players who only manages one of our clip in the table below (# 9), but without any sound, because support for AC3 missing."
"The third-party video player dice player or MX Video Player, both of which are available in the Android Market, it is however full marks. ASUS Prime plays everything we feed it with, whether it is DivX, XviD or MKV / h (x) 264-films with soundtracks in DTS or AC3 format."
Resolution / Codec / Profile / Container / Bitrate / Audio / Results (MX Video Player
640x352 XviD / [email protected] / AVI 1 Mbit/s MP3 2.0 OK
576x320 XviD / [email protected] / AVI 1,4 Mbit/s MP3 2.0 OK
720p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 3 Mbit/s AC-3 5.1 OK
720p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 9 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 14 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 19,2 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 22,8 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 25 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 30 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 42 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
Have anybody a 1080p High Profile Sample with 5.1 sound? I can't play my file with dice placer or bs player...
/edit: A reboot solved my problem. 1080p is playing very fine.
Video information
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ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 5mn
Bit rate : 10.3 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.280
Stream size : 8.84 GiB (75%)
Writing library : x264 core 61 r967M 869d5e4
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:1.0 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-4 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=10307 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=1.00 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=2:1.00
Language : English
Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 5mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 1.33 GiB (11%)
Language : English
Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 5mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 1.33 GiB (11%)
Language : German
sontin said:
Have anybody a 1080p High Profile Sample with 5.1 sound? I can't play my file with dice placer or bs player...
/edit: A reboot solved my problem. 1080p is playing very fine.
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Curious, what did you use to pull media info?
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Curious, what did you use to pull media info?
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My Windows 7 PC and Media Player Classic.
RussianMenace said:
Curious, what did you use to pull media info?
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Here's a tip of a program i think is good.
Media Info is a program that I using on my windows 7 computer. Really easy program to use. Just install and then all you have to do is to right click on the media file to get the info.
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
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Thanks for the responses. However, I'm mainly interested in HDMI output. The reason is that most HC tablets thus far can only mirror what's on their 1280x800 screen through HDMI out. Hence, they can only do 720p (the status bar portion is cut off). I'm curious if the Prime has worked around this issue. It hasn't been a big deal thus far, since most Android tabs are still Tegra 2, which can't really play 1080p anyway.
The other issue is 5.1 audio through HDMI. Every HC tablet to date can only output stereo sound.
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Thanks for the responses. However, I'm mainly interested in HDMI output. The reason is that most HC tablets thus far can only mirror what's on their 1280x800 screen through HDMI out. Hence, they can only do 720p (the status bar portion is cut off). I'm curious if the Prime has worked around this issue. It hasn't been a big deal thus far, since most Android tabs are still Tegra 2, which can't really play 1080p anyway.
The other issue is 5.1 audio through HDMI. Every HC tablet to date can only output stereo sound.
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What I have understand and what I have read from a swedish Asus person that have answer some questions are the following.
Connected with Hdmi to external monitor and when you are on your homescreen/apps/games it will mirror that and you get 720p just like you have said.
When starting a movie that's is 1080p the Prime screen goes off and it will output the movie in 1080p to the external screen.
Also want to know if it can output 5.1 sound. Can't someone that have gotten their Prime test and see.
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I played a couple 1080p music videos over HDMI and my TV reports they display in 1080p. They play smooth and look great. Of course they look fine when shown on the prime display as well, just not full resolution. I used the free mxplayer app from the market.
Only problem is I only get one audio channel thru HDMI no matter if I use the TV internal speakers or my amp (PS3, Dish, etc all work fine thru HDMI, just Prime or micro hdmi cable issue). One channel sounds good, other is silent. No matter what I try. If I connect headphones then the HDMI video continues and I get stereo sound in the headphones. But to connect this to my amp requires changing how everything is setup. I would like to find a solution to the single audio channel over hdmi.
It may be an issue with the software player. Try an MP4 clip with stereo AAC with the built-in video player and see if you can't at least get stereo sound through HDMI.
You can try any one of the clips from the link below. Suggest either the 1080p_max or the 1080p_master clip.
http://www.mediafire.com/?depxt4zyvpwel
I actually just did this and it does do 1080p ill post a pic so it makes things easier
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if I play a 720p video it says 720
Yep. Video feed on the prime stops and it beams the 1080p feed to the external display.
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Yup. Using HW decode it will not display video on both.
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The best player for smooth video and dual channel audio would be MX player. Select HW decoding for video and software decoding for audio. That seems to play the most.
Tried some of those mediafire videos. The video plays fine in 1080p, still only one audio channel over hdmi. Tried default player and half a dozen other players.
I played some Netflix video and I'm pretty impressed with the quality its outputting compared to my Acer a100. And no lag.
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@MrGiggles, or anyone with a surround sound HT setup
Would you play this attached test 5.1 WMA clip through HDMI and verify that you are getting actual 5.1? The test clip will say "front left", "center", "front right", etc through only the respective channel. You should also hear an audible sound at the end through your subwoofer (assuming your setup has one).
Will Test right now.
it did not display 5.1 but it DID go to each channel and I could hear it. I do not know if my amp is up scaling the audio or if it is actually doing it from HDMI but it did come all 5 and sub
My thus far flawless prime is now artifacting heavily from the HDMI output. It will also freeze and reboot if I accidentally turn it to portrait with HDMI connected.
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