I was just wondering if anyone is running SPB Shell 3D on their phone and how they like it. Does it make the phone laggy? Is it a battery hog? I was thinking of getting it for my wife. She loves the phone but the UI is a little dull in her opinion and I wanted to kinda spice it up for her a bit. She was very discouraged when I told her the MoPho has almost zero dev support and she is now wondering if she made a mistake buying one. I am trying to explain to her that it's still an amazing phone but giving her a little "visual enhancement" with the 3D shell would go a long way I think.
Thanks in advance!
Ive had it for a few days and I love it. imo I noticed an improvement with the UI over the stock one.
my sister runs it on her photon. shes a pretty big user when it comes to Facebook and texting... blah blah blah. shes runs a stock photon rooted and has no issues. when i have used her phone just a few times, its memory is always around 320ish free where im not running 3dshell and have around 400ish. so it uses up a little more RAM, but i havent seen any big battery issues. she makes it through a whole work day with heavy use.
I would get it for myself, but its 15 bucks!!! im more interested in giving that money to developers within my phone to have other stuff.
but for your wife, i think she will greatly enjoy it. MY sister loves it and she runs it on her Samsung tab also that her 2 year old uses.
When you think about it... its probably a really good thing she has the same on both, allows the kids to be familiar with how moms phone works in case there is an emergency and they have to use their mammas phone. they will know how to navigate since its the same.
I like it alot. Don't notice any difference in battery life. I have had it restart a couple times. I think its the best. I have used it on every rom I've installed, homebase, alien, magnifier, jokers stock and skinny, even put it on cm7. Don't regret the $15 purchase at all.
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Just buy it and try it out. If she doesn't like it, get a refund.
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Just buy it and try it out. If she doesn't like it, get a refund.
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Google market doesn't give you enough time to properly try most apps, especially a launcher.
Buy it. I bought the SPB Shell when I had the HTC Evo. The launcher is really slick. The animations are awesome, and the SPB Widgets are pretty cool as well. Very little customization - meaning changing themes or colors (like a Go Launcher, or Launcher Pro), however it is one of the most responsive launchers that I have used. Definitely worth the $15. Your wife wil not complain!
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I bought it, but I don't use it... It just sits in my apps taunting me... Seriously though, if you use the webtop on the phone then you will end up hating it, it uses WAY to much memory. I am a very heavy webtop user and had to give it up, I couldn't have more than 2 tabs open in the browser without getting a low memory issue.
That said if you don't sport the webtop then you will not have any issues. The GUI is fast and when I did use it I noticed no impact on the battery. If it wasn't for webtop I would be all over it... But I do so love my webtop.
I have been using it for moths and love the smooth functional interface. Seems way more responsive than stock
I've been using it for quite a while. Runs smooth on the Photon and battery life is good. Just use home switcher from the Market and switch over to the stock UI before activating Webtop. Then just switch back when done.
Honestly, if all she wants is a UI change put LP or ADW on there with some themes and see what she says. Then use apps such as Beautiful Widgets, Folder Organizer, etc to customize the screens even more. All for little to no money spent.
BTW....SPB will give a refund past the 15min trial the Market gives if you send them an email request. Also, SPB can be had for $9.99 off Handster if you do the phone purchase and don't mind dl the updates manually.
I just don't see that there is 14 or even 10 dollars worth of software there.
I understand that this is why big names took and are still taking for ever with mobile developments (users won't pay a ton of cash for software any more), but really your paying for a bunch of ActionScript animations and that's about it, yeah its nifty and kind of cool to look at - but ADW EX has tons of animations as well, not to the level SPB does, but for 90% less than what SPB charges.
I purchased it last night and she seems to enjoy it but she said this morning she is having an issue with Handcent where she keeps getting the same 2 messages from her sister over and over again for the past hour. I wonder if the 2 progs don't play nice together. That would really suck since she probably wouldn't give up Handcent.
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I purchased it last night and she seems to enjoy it but she said this morning she is having an issue with Handcent where she keeps getting the same 2 messages from her sister over and over again for the past hour. I wonder if the 2 progs don't play nice together. That would really suck since she probably wouldn't give up Handcent.
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Handcent is widely used enough that I would assume it would work with everything.
I would try clearing App Data of Handcent.
So I sent an email to SPB Tech Support regarding the SMS problem and they basically said that it can't be their product doing it. That's bull**** since it didn't do it until I installed the shell on her phone. Their solution was to download home launcher from the market and use it to switch back to Moto-Blur. Wow, thanks for nothing.
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I purchased it last night and she seems to enjoy it but she said this morning she is having an issue with Handcent where she keeps getting the same 2 messages from her sister over and over again for the past hour. I wonder if the 2 progs don't play nice together. That would really suck since she probably wouldn't give up Handcent.
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This might not be an issue with Handcent. I have been having issues with text messages for about a week. They are all coming in 3-4 days late, and some of them keep getting pushed back to me no matter how many times I delete them. And, I am using the stock messaging app.
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So I sent an email to SPB Tech Support regarding the SMS problem and they basically said that it can't be their product doing it. That's bull**** since it didn't do it until I installed the shell on her phone. Their solution was to download home launcher from the market and use it to switch back to Moto-Blur. Wow, thanks for nothing.
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They might be right. Could just be a coincidence. I haven't figured out why the text issues are happening yet. My guess is it is Sprint because my configuration hasn't changed and SPB hasn't updated since Oct. 12th.
But how can it be sprint if it wasn't doing it 2 days ago before I installed SPB? Also, I am not having any issues on my 3VO with SMS either. It's definitely a phone issue.
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But how can it be sprint if it wasn't doing it 2 days ago before I installed SPB? Also, I am not having any issues on my 3VO with SMS either. It's definitely a phone issue.
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Its a common problem when using multiple msgr apps. Turn off notifications on one of them, or just uninstall handcent
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Bandage said:
Its a common problem when using multiple msgr apps. Turn off notifications on one of them, or just uninstall handcent
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I have already uninstalled handset and am just using the stock messaging app. Still does it.
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I have already uninstalled handset and am just using the stock messaging app. Still does it.
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I just don't see how it can be SPB since I have had it installed for a long time with the same setup. The last update to SPB was on Oct. 12th and I never experienced a problem until a week or so ago.
When time allows I will do some testing and see if I can figure out what is going on. There is a good chance another product might be causing the issue but will no more soon.
**Edit.....Forgot I did a battery pull last night and haven't had the issue occur yet. Will check it over the next few days and see what happens.
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I never really write anything on XDA and I've been an Android faithful since the T-mobile G1 (the good old days!). I went from a G1 to the Evo 4G and eventually the Evo 3D. I've been rooting for HTC to come out as Android king but I can't handle the Evo 3D anymore. I've tried many ROMs and kernels but I have 3 main issues that just broke the straw on the camel's back:
1. Whenever I try to send a tweet using the official Twitter app, I always get a force close! I've gotten in the habit of using copy/paste to write out my tweet, copy, wait for the FC, open Twitter app again, and paste, with the hopes of having my tweet eventually sent. I'm a twitter addict, this is killing me!
2. Whenever my phone gets an incoming call, I can hear my ringtone and the phone's screen lights up, but the screen is black! This means that I can't see who is calling me, and I am unable to pick up the call. I have to use the power button to hang up on the person and try to call them back. Basically I can't receive calls.
3. This is a common issue with all Sense ROMs, but the Messaging app never shows an accurate "unread" messages count. If I read and reply to a text message and return to the "All Threads" screen on the messaging app, the thread still shows that there are unread messages. This is the most frustrating thing in the world! I have tried installing the MMS.apk from CyanogenMod, but if I attempt to install that in a Sense ROM I get a FC every time I try to send a text.
I tried to love this phone, I really did. The hardware is amazing and the phone is super fast, but I can't put up with these bugs. I have tried using SupraROM, Synergy, and WildShooter with the Silverneedle, Ziggy, and AnthraX kernels. I'm done with trying different ROM and kernel combinations. I really miss my Evo 4G with CM I didn't come here expecting solutions, I just really want to vent. I wish the Galaxy Nexus was coming to Sprint!
Sounds like you didn't wipe everything.
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#2 is the only bug I've experienced. Its only happened once since I've owned the phone so I left it alone.
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I never really write anything on XDA and I've been an Android faithful since the T-mobile G1 (the good old days!). I went from a G1 to the Evo 4G and eventually the Evo 3D. I've been rooting for HTC to come out as Android king but I can't handle the Evo 3D anymore. I've tried many ROMs and kernels but I have 3 main issues that just broke the straw on the camel's back:
1. Whenever I try to send a tweet using the official Twitter app, I always get a force close! I've gotten in the habit of using copy/paste to write out my tweet, copy, wait for the FC, open Twitter app again, and paste, with the hopes of having my tweet eventually sent. I'm a twitter addict, this is killing me!
2. Whenever my phone gets an incoming call, I can hear my ringtone and the phone's screen lights up, but the screen is black! This means that I can't see who is calling me, and I am unable to pick up the call. I have to use the power button to hang up on the person and try to call them back. Basically I can't receive calls.
3. This is a common issue with all Sense ROMs, but the Messaging app never shows an accurate "unread" messages count. If I read and reply to a text message and return to the "All Threads" screen on the messaging app, the thread still shows that there are unread messages. This is the most frustrating thing in the world! I have tried installing the MMS.apk from CyanogenMod, but if I attempt to install that in a Sense ROM I get a FC every time I try to send a text.
I tried to love this phone, I really did. The hardware is amazing and the phone is super fast, but I can't put up with these bugs. I have tried using SupraROM, Synergy, and WildShooter with the Silverneedle, Ziggy, and AnthraX kernels. I'm done with trying different ROM and kernel combinations. I really miss my Evo 4G with CM I didn't come here expecting solutions, I just really want to vent. I wish the Galaxy Nexus was coming to Sprint!
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1. To fix this problem, go to settings>applications and clear data for the Twitter app. This should fix the FC. If not, uninstall it and reinstall. I had the same problem and that fixed it. If you can't uninstall it using either the market or Settings>applications, use a file manager and go to /system/app/ and find the Twitter.apk and delete it there.
2. I personally haven't had this problem but many have with custom ROMs, I believe both Eternity and Warm TwoPointThree have this fixed now (as well as many others I'm sure). Do a search, I've seen this all over.
3. This used to bother me as well. It is frustrating. I have found no solution. I just made myself get over it because I like the Sense 3.0 Mms app so much, but sounds like you don't have a preference since you tried to replace it, so maybe try GoSMS, Handcent SMS, or any number of other SMS apps on the market.
Good luck!
The only time I ever experienced #2 was when I was running Warm twopointthree with Tiamat kernel. Switched back to the tweaked stock kernel included with warm and haven't seen the issue since. All in all, Warm twopointthree is pretty much everything I could ask of a rom- fast, stable, SVN access to update without requiring a full wipe whenever I get a spare moment, and most importantly an absolutely stellar team of devs behind the scenes.
P.S. wiping your phone when switching between roms is crucially important and can easily cause a myriad of strange and/or inexplicable issues/bugs/FCs etc. Just fyi if you weren't aware...certainly no offense meant
#2 sounds like a kernal issue only. Ziggy kernals were bad for me.
Why dont u use a completely stock rom? Its faster than any evo4g modded imo
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try not using custom kernels for a while..ive experienced the same issues and for me,going to a stock kernel fixes those issues.im on Myn's Warm rom and havent had any problems.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the suggestions. Whenever I change ROMs I always do a complete wipe and use MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my data and apps. Its really a PITA actually with the storage constraints (16 gb SD card, full of data) I usually have to backup everything in phases and transfer parts of my backup to my PC. I hate waiting for the backup/restore and transfer time from phone to PC. I've just really grown frustrated of the evo 3d. This was kind of my goodbye letter, I'm meeting up with someone on craigslist to trade for a Nexus S. Hopefully that can hold me over until I sprint gets an ICS phone *couch*Galaxy Nexus!*cough*. It's been real.
Never had any of these problems.
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate the suggestions. Whenever I change ROMs I always do a complete wipe and use MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my data and apps. Its really a PITA actually with the storage constraints (16 gb SD card, full of data) I usually have to backup everything in phases and transfer parts of my backup to my PC. I hate waiting for the backup/restore and transfer time from phone to PC. I've just really grown frustrated of the evo 3d. This was kind of my goodbye letter, I'm meeting up with someone on craigslist to trade for a Nexus S. Hopefully that can hold me over until I sprint gets an ICS phone *couch*Galaxy Nexus!*cough*. It's been real.
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Everything is fine here. Good luck and hope you don't end up in a Lifetime movie.
On phones with problem #2, everyone tells me to turn off my autobrightness. It works but then I don't have autobrightness so hit and miss there.
then go away cry baby.. damn
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then go away cry baby.. damn
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Lol.
Peace out brodda; I'm finally content w/ the newest version of MIUI. Still, who knows what might happen in the future.
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Everything is fine here. Good luck and hope you don't end up in a Lifetime movie.
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Lol lol +2
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I hate it when fast food places put mayonnaise on my burgers when I told them not to. Keep that nasty **** off of my sandwich!
#1 - I've never had a problem with the twitter app
#2 - I've had this issue when using the ziggy kernel thats why I don't use it (some ROMs use it)
#3 - I agree with you but I don't get a lot of SMS messages so I haven't had your degree of frustration.
So it boils down to #3 as the only real "issue". I did notice the other day that the lockscreen did have a SMS count. Doubt that helps you at all. Good luck with the new phone and I hope it doesn't have any bugs.. I don't know of any device that is perfect even iPhones have some issues.
Video preview of a new launcher called TSF Shell Pro being developed for Android. If this video is an accurate reflection of how the final release will work it could be the best launcher to date.
Check it out here (choose 720p for best quality): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYzYQ6YtepU
**UPDATE: This has been released and can be found in the Market. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tsf.shell Make sure to read the reviews here and in the Market before purchasing.
An alternate XDA thread here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523527&page=12
HOLY ****...that is sweet.
That's awesome
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The site's blog is in a different language but I translated the last post. Apparently they have a Beta around..
I have to admit this is kind of attractive like TATU Ui that never came out
http://www.tsfui.com/blog/
Thank you for your support. TSF SHELL closed beta application number have been carried out five days to apply the user has exceeded expectations, so the decision to close on December 14, closed beta user registration.
TSF has already begun to test models for registration, this time to support many users gave TSF TSF sent a lot of mail, in order not to affect the progress of development and debugging, TSF is no way to respond to everyone, hope to understand, thank you for TSF's attention and support.
Wow simply amazing. Dont want to spoil it for anyone very freaking cool.
Looking forward to its release.
TS
it's cool but sorta gimmicky...
Definitely has a cool factor that we can show off to the iOS fanbois hahahaha
I love it.
I wonder about memory and battery usage
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I love it.
I wonder about memory and battery usage
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Incredible amounts of both.
yeah i got this uber launcher here let me show you all it can do... ( 30 minutes later ) sorry battery died... don't understand why that keeps happening i just charged it an hour ago...
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yeah i got this uber launcher here let me show you all it can do... ( 30 minutes later ) sorry battery died... don't understand why that keeps happening i just charged it an hour ago...
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Hard to say. Peeps said that about SPB Shell as well but battery life is just as good as stock launcher. I would think TSF would be right along the lines of any other mainstream launcher (lp, adw, etc).
Really the best ui feel for android....
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i just for see that a bunch of us will be playing with our phones and killing our batteries really quick. And of course we will want to show it off lol...
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Hard to say. Peeps said that about SPB Shell as well but battery life is just as good as stock launcher. I would think TSF would be right along the lines of any other mainstream launcher (lp, adw, etc).
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I used SPB for weeks. It is the biggest battery drain I've ever had on my phone. The day I stopped using it was the day my battery life came back up to normal. I still keep it to show off my phone every now and again, but I don't use it often, and keep it unistalled.
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I used SPB for weeks. It is the biggest battery drain I've ever had on my phone. The day I stopped using it was the day my battery life came back up to normal. I still keep it to show off my phone every now and again, but I don't use it often, and keep it unistalled.
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Weird. My battery life between SPB and stock launcher is about the same. What was the last version you had installed? I do know the earlier builds of SPB were not near as good as these newer versions.
Their sites are down. I wonder if perhaps they are getting ready for a launch...
Can't wait for release!! Hopefully ill be the first to buy!
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I will look at this when I get home, I just wanted to join this thread as to not forget. I have SPB 3D Shell and for as much as I like it, it has to go, they can keep the $14.99. Cute when I have 5 apps, now I have 60+, phone is slow, sometimes freezes complety............I like the look and feel, but functionallity is more important.
For those that haven't seen the updates, TSF posted on 12/23 that they are in the commissioning phase which includes adding new features and fixing things that were found broken in the beta trials. No release date posted yet but sounds like it could be soon.
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I will look at this when I get home, I just wanted to join this thread as to not forget. I have SPB 3D Shell and for as much as I like it, it has to go, they can keep the $14.99. Cute when I have 5 apps, now I have 60+, phone is slow, sometimes freezes complety............I like the look and feel, but functionallity is more important.
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I must be lucky then cause I have way more than 60 apps on my phone and it runs smooth with SPB. Using the Supercharger script as well. Not sure if that has something to do with it.
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I must be lucky then cause I have way more than 60 apps on my phone and it runs smooth with SPB. Using the Supercharger script as well. Not sure if that has something to do with it.
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Supercharger script? Please school me? where/how do I get this?
I got pissed when trying to order pizza Friday night. Girl not only ordered pizza while I was still trying to get to the app, she got verification call back!!!
Ok I got my Gnote yesterday at BestBuy(upgraded from my skyrocket). When I got home to play with it it seemed to drag a$$ and was pretty choppy, almost like it was pushing it limits on memory or something. I restarted the phone but no help. Next I downloaded golauncher thinking it would help but no luck.
I’ve also noticed that whenever I select wallpaper it zooms all the way in on the pic (which looks like crap) and it doesn’t scroll. I’ve tried everything. Help me XDA
I hope there’s a simple fix for all these issues my phone is having. My skyrocket was flawless. Hell my infuse don’t seem too bad now.
Video quality isn’t that great either. What gives Samsung?????
I was able to get better wallpaper using zedge on the market. It doesnt zoom in like selecting from folder.
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Actually read other reviews before inferring that all notes have performance comparable to yours - mine is hardcore fast. No lag, no stutters, no nothing but performance. Download some appstore apps to monitor background processes and see if there is a rogue something running. That, or you may have a faulty device.
Coming from an Atrix, SGS2, Skyrocket, Droid Razr, and International Galaxy Note this is the smoothest phone I've ever owned. Only issue I have is getting calendar to sync with Google calendars.
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Ok I got my Gnote yesterday at BestBuy(upgraded from my skyrocket). When I got home to play with it it seemed to drag a$$ and was pretty choppy, almost like it was pushing it limits on memory or something. I restarted the phone but no help. Next I downloaded golauncher thinking it would help but no luck.
I’ve also noticed that whenever I select wallpaper it zooms all the way in on the pic (which looks like crap) and it doesn’t scroll. I’ve tried everything. Help me XDA
I hope there’s a simple fix for all these issues my phone is having. My skyrocket was flawless. Hell my infuse don’t seem too bad now.
Video quality isn’t that great either. What gives Samsung?????
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Mine is running the same way. Checking memory usage it is definitely pushing its limits. I'm at 557mb right now. Hoping it's just this rom and when we have development it'll improve.
Either way, I love this phone. I've had no issues with camera or video quality.
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Actually read other reviews before inferring that all notes have performance comparable to yours - mine is hardcore fast. No lag, no stutters, no nothing but performance. Download some appstore apps to monitor background processes and see if there is a rogue something running. That, or you may have a faulty device.
Coming from an Atrix, SGS2, Skyrocket, Droid Razr, and International Galaxy Note this is the smoothest phone I've ever owned. Only issue I have is getting calendar to sync with Google calendars.
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Well ACTUALLY I was only speaking of my note... If you took the time to read my post before rudley trying to correct me!!!
Also thank you for your help in this matter...
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Mine is running the same way. Checking memory usage it is definitely pushing its limits. I'm at 557mb right now. Hoping it's just this rom and when we have development it'll improve.
Either way, I love this phone. I've had no issues with camera or video quality.
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But how is it that we're the only 2 ppl with lag out of all the new notes that came out???
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Mine was lagging really bad as well... at least with the tw launcher. I dl go launcher with the ICS theme and its slightly faster but still lagging
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Are all of you closing down your background apps and/or running on power saver mode?
There is no reason you should be that laggy.
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I have not Seen any Lag Unless I Use a Launcher. othcr than that Seems to Be just as Smooth as my Skyrocket.
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Factory reset if laggy. There really should be no lag, go try another note and trade in. When i get mine next week, ill be sitting there all day making sure it responds well, if not ill argue. Edit: ok there may be a little but it can not be worse then my infuse lol.
Actually my note is kinda "laggy, sluggish, choppy" as well. I'm kind of a sad man right now, I still LOVE this thing but it's performance is not all that great at the moment for me.
Not entirely sure why either...I tried a few launcher none make it better and some make it worse.
grrr...
what kind of Lag. I have only Seen It while Using a Launcher. It actually Is JUST as Smooth as my Skyrocket when right next to it .
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Same here. very dissapointed. Its slower than my infuse, but then my infuse is running a custom rom.
Worst example by far is the market. load it up and scroll up and down, soooo choppy and laggy. starting to think I might have made a mistake not getting the international. I'm really surprized.
I'm sure once I overclock it and toss launcher pro on it I will be happier, I'm just really surprized that I have to do that.
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Same here. very dissapointed. Its slower than my infuse, but then my infuse is running a custom rom.
Worst example by far is the market. load it up and scroll up and down, soooo choppy and laggy. starting to think I might have made a mistake not getting the international. I'm really surprized.
I'm sure once I overclock it and toss launcher pro on it I will be happier, I'm just really surprized that I have to do that.
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Really strange. I am completely stock right now with all the bloat still installed, microbes live wallpaper, and I just tried this in the market and get no lag whatsoever.
I went to the AT&T store and the Note was laggy. I killed background tasks, eliminated widgets, removed bloatware... nothing
I really like the screen size + google maps navigation but I'm not good at rooting so I've gotta see if this lag stuff continues on stock before taking the plunge.
Hmm :/ I'll take a video of it tomorrow. All power saving options are off, nothing much running in the background. Maybe I should take it into an ATT store and compare it side by side to the ones on display.
I'm glad most others aren't having this problem, that means its something that can get fixed or replaced rather than just being an underpowered processor for the resolution of the screen.
Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
Oh and have a nice day
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Factory reset if laggy. There really should be no lag, go try another note and trade in. When i get mine next week, ill be sitting there all day making sure it responds well, if not ill argue. Edit: ok there may be a little but it can not be worse then my infuse lol.
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I've just spent the last 24 hours trying to customize my gnote. now u say hard reset may fix my problem... has anyone tried this yet?
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Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
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^Somebody needs to get laid STAT!
I'm absolutely willing to do all of that, and I will, but going from a captivate, to an infuse, to this, and having it be the slowest out of the box when the other two were single core just strikes me as not right. And with others stating that they don't have this issue, makes me think there must be something going on here. Before I mask the problem with the OC kernel and a new launcher I'd rather know that there isn't something wrong with my specific note.
Glad the lag doesn't bother you
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Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
Oh and have a nice day
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I'm not in the mood to buy a new phone that is worse off than my current one. Since none of the reviews mentioned it for the One X, I don't expect them to bother looking at it for the EVOLTE. Any news on this?
Same concern here.
Also seems as if the SGS3 is following suit with the same aggressive multitasking system.
dont buy it then lol
im still getting it. people love to ***** about the smallest things.
Perhaps a reviewer who has it can tell us
flex360 said:
dont buy it then lol
im still getting it. people love to ***** about the smallest things.
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This isn't my asking if the back cover gets fingerprints. This is a real functionality issue.
Saneless One said:
I'm not in the mood to buy a new phone that is worse off than my current one. Since none of the reviews mentioned it for the One X, I don't expect them to bother looking at it for the EVOLTE. Any news on this?
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It's an issue to people who aren't on XDA & feel it's an issue.
Not worried about it. Root, Custom Kernels & a Custom ROM will be dictating how aggressive the TK runs.
I think most people don't realize that it's probably more of an ICS issue than an OEM one. When the Galaxy Nexus first came out people were complaining about the same thing, but you don't hear much about it anymore with the update to 4.0.3 and 4.0.4.
My Evo 3D with the ICS leak (4.0.3) doesn't do this so I'm not to worried about the Evo LTE doing it either.
I have a loaner Evo lte and it doesn't seem to have this issue. I started playing a video on youtube, then jumped to the browser. I surfed the internet for over a minute, and switched back to youtube. The video was on pause. Once I hit play it restarted where I left off. Then after watching the video for more than a minute, I switched back to the browser. The webpage did not reload and displayed what I was previously viewing. Seems all good to me.
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I have a loaner Evo lte and it doesn't seem to have this issue. I started playing a video on youtube, then jumped to the browser. I surfed the internet for over a minute, and switched back to youtube. The video was on pause. Once I hit play it restarted where I left off. Then after watching the video for more than a minute, I switched back to the browser. The webpage did not reload and displayed what I was previously viewing. Seems all good to me.
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That sounds awesome, but my real question for you is this:
Is the phone amazing?
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I have a loaner Evo lte and it doesn't seem to have this issue. I started playing a video on youtube, then jumped to the browser. I surfed the internet for over a minute, and switched back to youtube. The video was on pause. Once I hit play it restarted where I left off. Then after watching the video for more than a minute, I switched back to the browser. The webpage did not reload and displayed what I was previously viewing. Seems all good to me.
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Oh great! That is reassuring. I hope it holds true for demanding apps as well.
great!
one x issues http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-x-multitasking-problem-apps-killed-off-86498/ and http://www.fun47.com/htc-one-x-and-s-disappointing-in-terms-of-multitasking/
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That sounds awesome, but my real question for you is this:
Is the phone amazing?
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I really liked it. My current phone is the Evo 4G, so I'm a little out of date. The screen is amazing, as expected. The phone is quite a bit bigger which surprised me. Not too big by any means, but definitly bigger than I expected. It's nice and thin and feels more sleek. One thing my wife mentioned was that the machined aluminum edge felt 'sharp', like maybe it needed to be deburred or rounded. It wasn't a compliant, just something she noticed. I had no issue and thought it felt great.
The camera was very nice. It takes pictures very fast. One slight dissapointment was the time it took to turn on the camera when pushing the manual camera button on the side. I expected instant readiness, but it took maybe a second or so. The onscreen camera button launches the camera faster.
I actually like the multitask button. It instantly popped up the app screens and rolled back the previous app. Kinda nice that it doesn't start on the current app and require you to scroll back. My current Evo now seems slow having to hold the 'home' button. I kinds miss the menu button. The menu in differnet apps can be on the bottom, top, or not have one. I found myself hunting for it sometimes.
That's all I can think of now. I had to give it back Sunday night. Overall the phone is great, and I can't wait to get my pre-order from sprint!
settings> Developer Options>Don't kill activities
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settings> Developer Options>Don't kill activities
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For real. Why are people complaining so much? How long have we had ICS now? If you don't know your menus and settings by now, don't even bother complaining here.
General users, yeah, more understandable, but not us. But still, if something isn't working right, check your Settings and see if you can change something. Is it really that hard?
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settings> Developer Options>Don't kill activities
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RegnierD said:
For real. Why are people complaining so much? How long have we had ICS now? If you don't know your menus and settings by now, don't even bother complaining here.
General users, yeah, more understandable, but not us. But still, if something isn't working right, check your Settings and see if you can change something. Is it really that hard?
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If the two of you were staying on top of this story, you would know that checking this doesn't help. Even with that option checked, HTC has changed the settings within the kernel to kill open tasks at a much more aggressive rate than ICS normally would, in order to allow sense to be smoother. They just pushed an update to the international version that helped, but the issue is still there. Personally I don't think it's a big deal, but it is something that can't be changed through checking that item off.
The more you know...
/reading up on an issue and doing some research before posting - is it really that hard?
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If the two of you were staying on top of this story, you would know that checking this doesn't help. Even with that option checked, HTC has changed the settings within the kernel to kill open tasks at a much more aggressive rate than ICS normally would, in order to allow sense to be smoother. They just pushed an update to the international version that helped, but the issue is still there. Personally I don't think it's a big deal, but it is something that can't be changed through checking that item off.
The more you know...
/reading up on an issue and doing some research before posting - is it really that hard?
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I've only had my EVO LTE for a few hours, but I'm already noticing that apps are reloading a lot more than they did on my EVO 4G. Specifically with the stock browser and titanium backup (woot for root!). It's not a deal breaker, but it is annoying.
Phone activation restarted for me. I'm guessing that's the aggresive task killer at work. D:
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I've only had my EVO LTE for a few hours, but I'm already noticing that apps are reloading a lot more than they did on my EVO 4G. Specifically with the stock browser and titanium backup (woot for root!). It's not a deal breaker, but it is annoying.
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dude i just asked why it was reloading all most of my widgets on my home screen(my evo 3d did not do that)
when i go into settings and hit back botton to exist
it starts reloading my widget on home screen
then it wont accept htc mail widget on home screen
gonna do factory reset and see what happens
anyone with any ideas
Just did a factory reset and it went away
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
HMZX said:
Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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Google Now & Project Butter
erikmarko said:
I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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Google Now & Project Butter
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
erikmarko said:
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
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smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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tacarat said:
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
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Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.