Hi all,
I've decided to bite the bullet and switch carriers just so I can upgrade from my HD7 to the Titan. Keep in mind I will be unlocking the phone for use on Telus in Canada which is compatible with AT&T 3G.
However I am trying to figure out if there is any benefit to getting the AT&T variant over the unlocked, unbranded model.
I see that on the box for the AT&T model it shows 4G compatible which is cool. So I would assume that using it on Telus would also give me 4G speeds. On the specs for the unlocked model it only shows 3G so I'm wondering if that's not entirely true. I also read somewhere HTC may have included Beats technology in the AT&T version but I doubt it since I haven't heard anything else about that.
I think I'd prefer an unbranded model over the AT&T one but also wondering if anything comes bundled as well that might make one better over the other. Also are the hardware specs identical?
Any help on this would be great
should be no difference or
the only difference is it would be sim locked for their network only the unlocked will work on either telus or at&t without trouble, you could work on sim unlocking the at&t version and that might be a little troublesome, I could be wrong but telus and at&t are promoting FAUX G which is still using 3g with increased speed boost if I am getting this right, hspa+
so the hardware is the same with some minor cosmetic differences (carrier branding vs none) the os and ui with msft strict requirements will be pretty much the same and you could easily uninstall carrier bundled apps, since you do live in canada I would just get the unlocked euro one, you will and I do notice that it switches from H to 3G and then E for Edge every now and then, but if you know how to do it get the at&t version and sim unlock it
Well the unlocked unbranded version uses 3G on 850/900/2100 MHz. AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz. It appears to me that I'm getting HSPA on my Titan, but not HSPA+, but I haven't really tested it very much. You'll have to check what Telus uses for HSPA+ to check if that will work.
Holding down the Windows/Start button brings up the Microsoft Tellme voice activated stuff. It works fine, but the lady has a British accent. This isn't a big deal.
The charger that ships with the unlocked version is the British Standards 1363 plug. Mine also had a BS 1363 to NEMA 5 adapter (aka UK to US), but it was separate from the box, so I think the company I purchased from, eXpansys, threw that in for free. Of course it includes a micro USB charging cable, so any computer USB port or USB wall charger would work, even if you can't use the included charger.
and you know what too with that womans british accent i think the phone is programmed to understand english with an accent, my voice to text experience has been less than stellar lately and my british accent is terrible LOL
Thanks everyone for the info!!
However I'm curious as to which model will give me HSPA+... If anyone can confirm that I'd appreciate it
it dont matter IMO, it's so fast already i love it
pistol44 said:
Thanks everyone for the info!!
However I'm curious as to which model will give me HSPA+... If anyone can confirm that I'd appreciate it
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Get the ATT version. The unlocked Euro version will not connect to the same 3G bands. As for 4G don't get your hopes up there is no real 4G yet. Until a standard is set any one can say it has 4g if it. 000001 MB over the Max 3g connection.
Well I took my chances and just bought the ATT version off a seller on eBay. We made the deal for $630US incl. shipping. I don't know what the phone sell for off contract but it's the cheapest one I could find that wasn't already open or used. He also sent in a request for an unlock code for it so I'm hoping we'll be able to get one.
I remember the horror when I couldn't get an unlock code for my HD7 and had to wait a week before the codes were available.
Anyway.. it's being sent by UPS so should have it by Weds next week Now I hope it's not a lemon or I'm screwed!!
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Well I took my chances and just bought the ATT version off a seller on eBay. We made the deal for $630US incl. shipping. I don't know what the phone sell for off contract but it's the cheapest one I could find that wasn't already open or used. He also sent in a request for an unlock code for it so I'm hoping we'll be able to get one.
I remember the horror when I couldn't get an unlock code for my HD7 and had to wait a week before the codes were available.
Anyway.. it's being sent by UPS so should have it by Weds next week Now I hope it's not a lemon or I'm screwed!!
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Go to the Ace hack kit thread for the inspire and read it. Unlocking it is simple as long as you read the manual and have a little common sense.
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Go to the Ace hack kit thread for the inspire and read it. Unlocking it is simple as long as you read the manual and have a little common sense.
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Not sure I understood you correctly. I followed your advice to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352&highlight=Ace+hack+kit
This is for an Android device and it's not clear to me what the purpose of this hack is for and how it's related to the HTC Titan.
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Not sure I understood you correctly. I followed your advice to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352&highlight=Ace+hack+kit
This is for an Android device and it's not clear to me what the purpose of this hack is for and how it's related to the HTC Titan.
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Oops sorry wrong phone. That will teach me to bebppsting in 12 threads at the same time. Lol. Forget I said that
I have the AT&T model that I got at a Windows-Phone inner circle thing, and it is HSPA+, I unlocked mine at cellunlock.net as well.
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and you know what too with that womans british accent i think the phone is programmed to understand english with an accent, my voice to text experience has been less than stellar lately and my british accent is terrible LOL
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My dead-end problem.
mine come from UK, and yes, the lady inside the phone almost never recognize my English Voice Pattern, even the simplest: IMDB.
It is funny when i am foreign, i was studying British English at home and now only Americans can understand me. LMAO.
I mean, my HD7 T-Mobile almost never have trouble in using the voice to open stuffs, but my UK Titan is a pain in the ass.
By the way, i would recommend double check everything because my turn-by-turn Navigation of Bing maps doesn't work at US for UK version. If you are really need Turn-by-Turn, i would recommend the AT&T version because it is designed for US Road, maybe Canada too. But we also have other alter maps like Nokia Maps is coming out, or navigon... blah.
If not, the Sim-Free Quad-band Unlocked Titan from Europe is also sweet. I can hit home anytime and use any sim without paying $30-$45 for an unlock code and worry about 3G Frequency since it is the world phone.
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My dead-end problem.
mine come from UK, and yes, the lady inside the phone almost never recognize my English Voice Pattern, even the simplest: IMDB.
It is funny when i am foreign, i was studying British English at home and now only Americans can understand me. LMAO.
I mean, my HD7 T-Mobile almost never have trouble in using the voice to open stuffs, but my UK Titan is a pain in the ass.
By the way, i would recommend double check everything because my turn-by-turn Navigation of Bing maps doesn't work at US for UK version. If you are really need Turn-by-Turn, i would recommend the AT&T version because it is designed for US Road, maybe Canada too. But we also have other alter maps like Nokia Maps is coming out, or navigon... blah.
If not, the Sim-Free Quad-band Unlocked Titan from Europe is also sweet. I can hit home anytime and use any sim without paying $30-$45 for an unlock code and worry about 3G Frequency since it is the world phone.
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noelitaux said:
and you know what too with that womans british accent i think the phone is programmed to understand english with an accent, my voice to text experience has been less than stellar lately and my british accent is terrible LOL
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That is true. I have this problem and no solutions exists yet. "Display language" in the Settings has "English" with no US/UK selection. It is UK effectively. Bing Maps will therefore have no voice guidance, and speech accessibility (announcing caller name, etc.) don't work, and you need to have a British accent for it to understand you.
I guess we'll have to wait for an AT&T ROM to flash on our devices.
this is true! i just realized my bing maps doesn't work either, it shows my location and will tell me where something is in relation to it but it cannot give me directions, thank god for the turn by turn navigation app which i use frequently, bing maps cannot provide me directions, and it would be great if my voice to text would work as well, yes we will have to wait for some cooked roms to come our way,
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my thing is and I don't know if any other us euro titan owners are experiencing this, but i have a great rate and unlimited data plan with at&t because my device is not recognized in their system, if I were to install and at&t rom in the future , would ma bell immediately see my titan and slap a capped data plan on my account?
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this is true! i just realized my bing maps doesn't work either, it shows my location and will tell me where something is in relation to it but it cannot give me directions, thank god for the turn by turn navigation app which i use frequently, bing maps cannot provide me directions, and it would be great if my voice to text would work as well, yes we will have to wait for some cooked roms to come our way,
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my thing is and I don't know if any other us euro titan owners are experiencing this, but i have a great rate and unlimited data plan with at&t because my device is not recognized in their system, if I were to install and at&t rom in the future , would ma bell immediately see my titan and slap a capped data plan on my account?
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Starting today, they will probably recognize your phone... lol
Doesn't matter which ROM it runs, they can see it as "HTC Titan" and apply any restrictions they wish.
From the ATT site on the Titan specs: *4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul.
Also, ATT sells the Titan new for $549.99 without contract and free shipping.
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I was in a mall today with 2 outlets for the AT&T Titan: the Microsoft Store and an AT&T store.
I entered the IMEI for both shops' floor models into htcimeiunlock.com, and for both of them the site claimed to have the codes immediately available, for $25. I've had good luck with that site in the past so I believe that at least for the first batch of Titans the codes are readily available for $25 or so.
Contrast that with AT&T, who probably won't have or give the codes for months, if ever.
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I was in a mall today with 2 outlets for the AT&T Titan: the Microsoft Store and an AT&T store.
I entered the IMEI for both shops' floor models into htcimeiunlock.com, and for both of them the site claimed to have the codes immediately available, for $25. I've had good luck with that site in the past so I believe that at least for the first batch of Titans the codes are readily available for $25 or so.
Contrast that with AT&T, who probably won't have or give the codes for months, if ever.
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what codes are you referring to? the $25 app cards? everyone is going to get them, i don't see why at&t would take time on this, this is sanctioned by msft, all you have to do is go on the msft's own side enter your imei proof of purchase and voila you get a $25 app card mailed to you i believe
and also at&t is a great network! they 10x better coverage than tmobile, i've had horrible experiences with tmobile letting me down, you can have the bestest shiniest most advanced phone out there and but its a useless paperweight if your carrier lets you down
"Codes" == SIM unlock codes (thought that was obvious from my mention of "htcimeiunlock.com").
Good luck getting them from AT&T any time in the next few months, even for a phone purchased at unsubsidized price.
Not a big deal for some folks, but some of us like to travel abroad with our phones and use them with local SIM cards, which makes unlocking critical. Fortunately, there's a non-AT&T source for the codes for HTC devices... you're SOL if you want to travel with a Samsung Mango phone!
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Just wanting to know a few things:
1. Do all apps support the "Move to media" option in manage apps, or is it similar to the stock FroYo Move to SD?
2. If I got one I would get it from Mobicity in Brisbane (Google mobicity atrix) would the option under colour saying no physical branding be a Bell Atrix? I have heard they are harder to hack etc. Would it be better knowing I'm getting an AT&T by getting their branding on the phone?
Thanks (Sorry I can't post links, I would, but I'm only new)
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Just wanting to know a few things:
1. Do all apps support the "Move to media" option in manage apps, or is it similar to the stock FroYo Move to SD?
2. If I got one I would get it from Mobicity in Brisbane (Google mobicity atrix) would the option under colour saying no physical branding be a Bell Atrix? I have heard they are harder to hack etc. Would it be better knowing I'm getting an AT&T by getting their branding on the phone?
Thanks (Sorry I can't post links, I would, but I'm only new)
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I can only answer #1 for ya. No, only certain apps will allow moving to media area (built in /sdcard)
But in reality, I have what I consider a ton of apps installed and still have nearly a gb of phone storage remaining so it's just about a moot point..
Thanks. That's a bit of a let down, but still good. I've got a desire with about 20 apps installed and 15mb free, so anything more than that is awesome!
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You won't need to worry about space on the Atrix. At last count I have a total of 452 apps, a couple of gigs of music, pictures, and videos on my internal sdcard, and still have over 5GB of free space.
This isn't the AT&T Atrix which is the MB860.
http://www.mobicity.com.au/motorola-atrix.html
This is the ME860. I believe that's from the Chinese/Asian market.
The following link shows this model as having Android 2.2.1 Chinese as embedded operating system.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2889&c=motorola_atrix_me860_motorola_olympus
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You won't need to worry about space on the Atrix. At last count I have a total of 452 apps, a couple of gigs of music, pictures, and videos on my internal sdcard, and still have over 5GB of free space.
This isn't the AT&T Atrix which is the MB860.
This is the ME860. I believe that's from the Chinese/Asian market.
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According to the Mobicity website, the one I'm looking at is the ME860, but I don't know if that means that if I go the AT&T branding means that I get the MB860. The only advantage I can see from getting the ME860 is the quad-band 3G (I live in Australia so there is one carrier using 850/2100mHz and the rest use 900/2100mHz Dual band 3G), so if I want to change carriers this could be useful.
I might contact Mobicity to find out if the AT&T branding means MB860 and if the ME860 has any Chinese language on it.
So I checked with Mobicity and they said that the website had errors. They are actually selling the MB860 with either AT&T branding or no branding. I asked which rom they ran on each and the AT&T branded one runs the same rom AT&T uses, where the unbranded one uses Moto's stock rom. If they are both the same price which would be better? I don't care about the AT&T logo because it's fairly easy to remove.
I've also seen some people using the AT&T Atrix have "AT&T Atrix" as the carrier when using it with another carrier. Would this occur if I got the AT&T branding?
If you plan on using it with telstra, then you'll have no problems with reception on the AT&T atrix as they use the 3G 850 mhz band. However, if you plan on using vodafone/optus then you won't get 3g in the country/rural areas as they use the 900mhz band. It'd probably be good for you to check the 3g coverage maps if you plan on going with optus/vodafone on the AT&T atrix.
I went against going with mobicity as nobody I talked to had any idea what version of the atrix they're selling. Originally they were selling just the AT&T version but since the telstra version came out they updated their site and were telling me that ALL their versions were quadband, including the AT&T branded one. They were also charging $20 extra for the AT&T version for a while.
I ended up ordering it from gsmnation a few days ago as it was cheaper and I know what I'll be getting. I'm going to be using optus but the AT&T version has better developer support so I figured that was a better incentive rather than rare occasion that I'll actually go visiting a rural area. I was using a tri-band iphone 3g for 3 years before this anyway.
So if you want better support from developers, probably faster updates and you aren't worried about the fact that it doesn't support optus/vodafone in the country then I'd go with the AT&T atrix.
According to them they don't sell the quad-band version (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1564501&p=58#r1144), but that doesn't bother me, as I'm looked into Telstra for another 15 months or so. That means the only thing I'm worried about are updates (which as you mentioned the AT&T one would get more and faster) and the support for custom roms down the track (Gingerblur supports this already). So looks like I will go with the AT&T if I get one.
Well luckily I didn't buy it from mobicity then. The person I spoke to said that the atrix was now quadband, even their website showed the same until you alerted them about it. So yeah, I guess that makes the decision a lot easier for you.
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Well luckily I didn't buy it from mobicity then. The person I spoke to said that the atrix was now quadband, even their website shows the same (previously it said only tri-band). So yeah, I guess that makes the decision a lot easier for you.
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Lucky indeed! I have heard that Telstra is selling a quad-band version, although it's hardly selling, more like ripping off at $840 or $59 a month.
Have you got your Atrix? I've heard some people using the AT&T Atrix with another provider get "AT&T Atrix" as the carrier up the top left corner of the screen. Just wondering if this is true or not....
Since Mobicity says ME860 on their website, and they tell you themselves this is wrong and they are selling the MB860, I would definitely verify all the information on any phone you purchase first in :
Settings > About Phone
CaelanT said:
Since Mobicity says ME860 on their website, and they tell you themselves this is wrong and they are selling the MB860, I would definitely verify all the information on any phone you purchase first in :
Settings > About Phone
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Will do! Although it doesn't really bother me as I won't be using the added 900mHz frequency anyway. But still, better to get what you ask for!
So if I got the AT&T branded one would app sideloading be disabled, as it it using AT&T's rom? If it is, then how easy is it to enable?
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So if I got the AT&T branded one would app sideloading be disabled, as it it using AT&T's rom? If it is, then how easy is it to enable?
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You just use GladEnabler. Easy peesy!
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Lucky indeed! I have heard that Telstra is selling a quad-band version, although it's hardly selling, more like ripping off at $840 or $59 a month.
Have you got your Atrix? I've heard some people using the AT&T Atrix with another provider get "AT&T Atrix" as the carrier up the top left corner of the screen. Just wondering if this is true or not....
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I haven't got it yet, I bought it from gsmnation on friday so I'm hoping I get it this week. I'll post back and let you know if you haven't bought one by then.
Imported this bad boy to the US, but with Nokia releasing new updates, will they ever reach the US? I have a feeling that it may never be rolled out here... If so are there any other alternatives to update?
(It is unlocked/unbranded and ordered from Handtec)
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Imported this bad boy to the US, but with Nokia releasing new updates, will they ever reach the US? I have a feeling that it may never be rolled out here... If so are there any other alternatives to update?
(It is unlocked/unbranded and ordered from Handtec)
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Did you get to avoid paying VAT on your purchase?
I'm pretty sure the update isn't rolled out by region, more like IMEI groups.
Isn't Market Place done by region your account is registered to? Maybe updates are the same?
You could also try conencting via a VPN in a region where it's released, see if it picks up an update?
I've had two updates so far, so would of thought most people would have had atleast one?
I did get to avoid VAT I'll check again tonight as another update was released. I just haven't received any messages telling me to update. Thanks for the info!
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I did get to avoid VAT I'll check again tonight as another update was released. I just haven't received any messages telling me to update. Thanks for the info!
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Then that's a really good price for it!
I really want this phone, but need to be sure that Internet Sharing will be enabled first, or it's a waste of my money.
Hey, keep us posted would you? I'm getting mine this Monday from Amazon and curious to see if Zune will detect the update in Burbank, Ca.
Need WiFi tethering as I use for my Kindle Touch WiFi, but it's not a deal breaker.
Also, one or two people have posted some anomalies with the update concerning the battery indicator. ..
Hey halfnelson.. does the phone accept your AT&T GSM SIM card as it is or did you have to cut it to a lesser size to fit?
Someone on O2 in Europe wrote they had to cut theirs?
The Lumia uses a microSIM, so yes it would need cutting (unless you had one already, of course).
I trimmed down my GIffgaff one no problem.
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Hey halfnelson.. does the phone accept your AT&T GSM SIM card as it is or did you have to cut it to a lesser size to fit?
Someone on O2 in Europe wrote they had to cut theirs?
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It did accept my regular sim after I cut it. Be sure to do it correctly, or else the contacts won't match up
I researched it and decided to wuss and shell out the $20 for a T-Mobile micro sim.. Will phone activate when I get the phone Monday. Failed too many shop and craft classes to trust myself cutting.
Hey any news on your update?
I've got another ? for the OP.
The website you bought from, with the best price I've seen, does not specific the WCMDA/HSPA bandwidths to differentiate if it's the quad-band or one of the two different tri-bands. Which carrier are you using here in the US and is the 3G fully functioning for you?
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I've got another ? for the OP.
The website you bought from, with the best price I've seen, does not specific the WCMDA/HSPA bandwidths to differentiate if it's the quad-band or one of the two different tri-bands. Which carrier are you using here in the US and is the 3G fully functioning for you?
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I'm on Att and get fully functioning HSPA+. it uses the 850/900/1900/2100 bands for 3g/HSPA+.
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I'm on Att and get fully functioning HSPA+. it uses the 850/900/1900/2100 bands for 3g/HSPA+.
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This is good to know, cuz the product page doesn't list them. I spent waaaay too long last night looking for a UK site that sells quad-band HSPA. Have it narrowed down to two, thanks to your confirmation here.
I'm kinda keen on the cyan.
Although many sites say they don't have the right bands, all the lumia devices have the bands I said above.
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Although many sites say they don't have the right bands, all the lumia devices have the bands I said above.
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Pull the sim tray out and look at the model number.. will be RM-801 or something... what model do you have?
One Update Came Through - T-Mobile USA
So I have..
OS: 7.10.7740.16
Firmware: 1600.2475.7720.11414
But I am only getting Edge Data.
Have Hard Reset and I'm hoping that this is just a new SIM getting onto the system (customer service warned me to allow 2 hrs for full services)
Otherwise could be a deal breaker.
Hoping not; a chap at the TMobile store in Burbank where I live said another customer came in with the same phone bragging away on it so hope this is just a temp thing..
Beautiful device though!!
The Lumia doesn't do AWS, EDGE is the best you'll get from T-Mobile US.
Yep; I found that out... Hopefully AT&T will buy out T-Mobile..
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Yep; I found that out... Hopefully AT&T will buy out T-Mobile..
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Hopefully AT&T won't be able to buy T-Mobile. Talk about market concentration and increased rates. The acquisition doesn't mean that tmo phones will magically start working. The changes you'd hope to see would not be immediate.
Hello everyone,
I've been an android user for a year and a half now, but after getting a grip of a WP device I am surely making the switch, and the Titan has caught my eyes from the first sight!
I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice regarding where to get the phone from and what version should I get?
I live in the Middle-East and the phone is currently unavailable here but I want to get it from the internet, there are many versions of the Titan and I am not quite sure which one should I buy!
Here are the options I got and I don't know which one I should go with:
1- The AT&T version: I've read that the AT&T version had some problems regarding voice quality but its the cheapest among them all (around 500$ and I need to unlock it of course).
2- The international version -don't know what's it called really- factory unlocked on amazon for 675$.
3- The UK version on ebay for 600$, factory unlocked.
Considering the fact that I am kinda a noob regarding these stuff, I would like to hear your suggestions, what difference is there between all these three and what should I get for someone living on the other side of the world, also would like to know what the UK version differs from the others.
and is there a chance that the phone won't work with my carrier, what info should I ask them for and check before buying the device ?
thanks a lot for your time, any help is much appreciated
ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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I see, so that is a disadvantage for the AT&T version.
Umm, ok what about the UK version, what's wrong with it more like what is the difference between it and the international one?
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ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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had an iclone user pick mine up the other day and pretend it was a riot shield. "it's just sooooo big!" wait until the iclone 5 has a bigger screen, suddenly this form factor will become "magical." &^%$ers!
The AT&T one will *never* tether on any network other than AT&T. Not sure about the UK one.
You might want to investigate whether the int'l unlocked one can.
If it were me I'd get the int'l unlocked one, *unless* I specifically needed a UMTS band that that one does not offer.
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The AT&T one will *never* tether on any network other than AT&T. Not sure about the UK one.
You might want to investigate whether the int'l unlocked one can.
If it were me I'd get the int'l unlocked one, *unless* I specifically needed a UMTS band that that one does not offer.
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UK unlocked here - tethers with everything!
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UK unlocked here - tethers with everything!
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since you own the UK version, may I ask you what differ is there between it and the international version ? (the UK version is cheaper by 75$) but I don't know if it'll work as I live in the middle-east and I don't know what to ask my carrier for to know?
thanks
I am not entirely sure about international version. But I think it probably not much difference hardware wise for sure. Since certain features of OS are limited to certain countries ir might be the case. E.g. Bing features, tell me services etc. It might be helpful if I say that even in UK version the radio is set to International.
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I am not entirely sure about international version. But I think it probably not much difference hardware wise for sure. Since certain features of OS are limited to certain countries ir might be the case. E.g. Bing features, tell me services etc. It might be helpful if I say that even in UK version the radio is set to International.
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ok that's great to know, features like Tell Me and others aren't that important to me and honestly it'll help me get a British accent, hehe
but the most important thing that there isn't any big changes, stuff like the market won't work or these kind of things, right?
thanks for your help
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ok that's great to know, features like Tell Me and others aren't that important to me and honestly it'll help me get a British accent, hehe
but the most important thing that there isn't any big changes, stuff like the market won't work or these kind of things, right?
thanks for your help
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Do a search though. In some countries Market won't have certain apps. The market ideally should work in all countries but some have lesser apps than others e.g. we don't have the Netflix app in the UK. Check out what Market looks like for your specific country. Unlikely you will have all the apps. It's more to do with MS sorting out the legalities etc for each country gradually..
iFan has their own bias, so i won't talk about it here.
AT&T Version always slow in the Update since AT&T have to test it and do whatever they want to the update before it can be published.
I have the X310e version from UK, unlocked and totally happy with it.
And with the international version, you have the "HTC" agent color, which is removed on the AT&T Titan.
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iFan has their own bias, so i won't talk about it here.
AT&T Version always slow in the Update since AT&T have to test it and do whatever they want to the update before it can be published.
I have the X310e version from UK, unlocked and totally happy with it.
And with the international version, you have the "HTC" agent color, which is removed on the AT&T Titan.
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HTC agent colour is also present in the UK version. So does this mean only the ATT doesn't have it? or is UK and international one the same thing?
The Apps in the market will be dependent on the Country given in your Live-Account. This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
So those things will most likely have to be sorted out firt. The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants which makes it usable on pretty much any UMTS Network worldwide with only a few exceptions. The exact supported bands can be seen on the HTC Titans product page on htc.com
The UK version as far as I know is hardwarewise exactly the same as the international one, only difference might be in what UI languages are available (all keyboard languages are present since the Mango Update anyway although Middle-Eastern-Language support is currently expected to arrive with the Tango-Update - meaning it's not available yet).
Hope this helps and provides you with a rough idea of what troubles can arise.
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The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants
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The USA version is 850/1900/2100.
The UK version is 850/900/2100. The international version is probably the same as that one, but not sure.
The OP probably only needs 2100, so any of them will probably be just fine.
Now if we could only get a variant with AWS...
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HTC agent colour is also present in the UK version. So does this mean only the ATT doesn't have it? or is UK and international one the same thing?
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AT&T has a choice what to do with the ROM for their Phone. and they choose to remove the Agent Color HTC. I have heard it from multiple sources.
All others versions has the HTC Agent color.
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The Apps in the market will be dependent on the Country given in your Live-Account. This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
So those things will most likely have to be sorted out firt. The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants which makes it usable on pretty much any UMTS Network worldwide with only a few exceptions. The exact supported bands can be seen on the HTC Titans product page on htc.com
The UK version as far as I know is hardwarewise exactly the same as the international one, only difference might be in what UI languages are available (all keyboard languages are present since the Mango Update anyway although Middle-Eastern-Language support is currently expected to arrive with the Tango-Update - meaning it's not available yet).
Hope this helps and provides you with a rough idea of what troubles can arise.
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okay , let's say I get the UK unlocked version and use it in my country "Jordan" , I don't know where I read it , but as it seems every phone is region locked , and if I get a UK phone for instance I won't be able to get an update to my language for example (which is Arabic) .. is that correct ?
I don't know, its safer to get the international version even tho it's a 100 bucks more expensive , but I thought about asking you guys cause I don't know a lot about these stuff.
Thanks
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This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
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I changed the country my live account was associated with. It's a bit hard but you can do it. There is a how-to online if you search for it.
For the life of me, I cannot understand why the Google version is the same as the AT&T Version - missing the 1700 band. This makes no sense.
I know, T-Mobile is "refarming" (we love that word) their network to use 1900 or whatever, but fact is, the 1700 band is a necessary thing for the distant future.
The T-Mobile version is the only Pentaband One available. Carrier unlock it for $10, then flash the AOSP build and you are good to go. If the rumors of HTC letting all One owners put AOSP on their One, this even sweetens the deal since you don't have to deal with unlocking bootloaders and flashing stuff. I'd assume if they announce an AOSP option for the One, there will be a straightforward way to flash safely for the average Joe.
Paying $599 for a non-Pentaband One is a silly idea. Get the true Pentaband version - the T-Mobile hardware. It's so strange that Google didn't opt to utilize the T-Mobile hardware for it's Play/One offering. Very strange, IMO.
Yeah pretty much most of us will just unlock the bootloader and flash the asop rom
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For the life of me, I cannot understand why the Google version is the same as the AT&T Version - missing the 1700 band. This makes no sense.
I know, T-Mobile is "refarming" (we love that word) their network to use 1900 or whatever, but fact is, the 1700 band is a necessary thing for the distant future.
The T-Mobile version is the only Pentaband One available. Carrier unlock it for $10, then flash the AOSP build and you are good to go. If the rumors of HTC letting all One owners put AOSP on their One, this even sweetens the deal since you don't have to deal with unlocking bootloaders and flashing stuff. I'd assume if they announce an AOSP option for the One, there will be a straightforward way to flash safely for the average Joe.
Paying $599 for a non-Pentaband One is a silly idea. Get the true Pentaband version - the T-Mobile hardware. It's so strange that Google didn't opt to utilize the T-Mobile hardware for it's Play/One offering. Very strange, IMO.
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The other, perhaps equally as good reason, is that the T-Mobile version only costs $579.99.
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Yeah pretty much most of us will just unlock the bootloader and flash the asop rom
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^^^^ What he said ^^^^
I just noticed the unlocked version is now $599.99 when it was originally $574.99.
I wish I had read this post before I bought my Google Play edition of the one.
I've spent a couple hours on the phone the other day with t-mobile support and Google support trying to figure out why my new one couldn't connect to anything better than the edge network. Neither of those companies new the right answer. It took me reading these forums before I figured out it was because the Google Play edition didn't have the right antennas inside. The next day I went to T Mobile and bought the T Mobile version and I am now in the process of returning the Google Play edition.
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I almost sprung for the GEOne, but ultimately chose to go through T-Mobile so I could spread out the cost of the phone and it's 20 bucks cheaper.
Didn't even think to check the supported bands, glad I made the decision I did.
Though, I kind of wish the GEOne was pentaband and I would have bought it, because I like the idea of the Google Edition flagship phones... If the program doesn't sell many phones I'm not so sure Google will continue it.
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Glad I helped others. In all actuality, the T-Mo One isn't "Pentaband" (missing 900 mHz I believe) but it has the necessary bands for the US. If you live in Europe, it may not have the correct bands, but I use ATT/TMo on mine just fine.
Sorry for a noob question.
I have the T-Mobile HTC One fully stock. Would love to go to the Google Edition ROM. Could someone point me to the direction of how I go about doing that?
Do I need to unlock the bootloader and root to flash the rom?
Thanks
Thank you for this thread. I've been reading for a few days now, and this was the final straw on me deciding where to purchase. See you guys in a few weeks.
The Cincinnati Bell version is also the same as the Tmobile version minus bloatware and branding.
This also goes for the Dev Edition.
I ended up selling my Dev Edition 64GB on Swappa for 520 and then bought a TMobile one off of Craigslist for 420.
On the Dev version my phone jumped from Edge to LTE and LTE being rare around here and on this TMobile one I get 4G because of the missing band.
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Thank you for this thread. I've been reading for a few days now, and this was the final straw on me deciding where to purchase. See you guys in a few weeks.
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oooohhh ****, welcome!
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For the life of me, I cannot understand why the Google version is the same as the AT&T Version - missing the 1700 band. This makes no sense....Paying $599 for a non-Pentaband One is a silly idea. Get the true Pentaband version - the T-Mobile hardware. It's so strange that Google didn't opt to utilize the T-Mobile hardware for it's Play/One offering. Very strange, IMO.
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I agree. This is terrible for consumers, and mystifying why Google would do it. It would be bad anyway, but many (perhaps most) people wouldn't even realize it from looking at Google's page about the phone. It blithely glosses over the issue with statements like "Freedom of choice....Unlocked means world travel is easy....Compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile in the US." I had looked at the page and didn't realize it had this limitation until I saw it mentioned elsewhere on the internet. I'd be pissed if I bought one of these and then found out it's handicapped like this.
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oooohhh ****, welcome!
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Haha I'm reading so much its killing my brain cells and interfering with work almost lol. Sooo much going on with this phone. Anything I should know in particular please PM me man, don't wanna hijack this thread.
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just wondering but I was looking at the specs and the tmo version is missing the HSPA 900 MHz band so how would it be a pentaband phone? unless if im reading it wrong
This is absolutely true.
Why anybody would buy the Google edition is beyond me.
The T-Mobile HTC One is the best version with all the bands and you can FULLY CONVERT IT to be either a Developers edition or Google Edition.
I converted my T-Mobile HTC One to both Dev edition and Google Edition just to see if it was possible, and yes it is.
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This is absolutely true.
Why anybody would buy the Google edition is beyond me.
The T-Mobile HTC One is the best version with all the bands and you can FULLY CONVERT IT to be either a Developers edition or Google Edition.
I converted my T-Mobile HTC One to both Dev edition and Google Edition just to see if it was possible, and yes it is.
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does that mean it has the HSPA 900 MHz band? that band is a must for me before I decide to get it. thanks
bapurado said:
does that mean it has the 900 MHz band? that band is a must for me before I decide to get it. thanks
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According to post #8 in this thread:
ericshmerick said:
In all actuality, the T-Mo One isn't "Pentaband" (missing 900 mHz I believe) but it has the necessary bands for the US.
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Maybe that's a whole other WTF for such a new, expensive phone, but the even bigger one is the Google Play edition not supporting the bands needed for T-Mobile, and furthermore the page saying:
Compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile in the US.
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Why anybody would buy the Google edition is beyond me.
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Probably mostly because they don't know better. I didn't when I started looking at the phone. The Google Play page certainly doesn't say anything in plain English about the issue, and implies that it is a good choice for T-Mobile. It's a huge WTF that they would sell an unlocked phone missing a major component of functionality on one of two major US GSM carriers, when there's a version of the phone that includes that component. You'd have to be pretty well informed about the technology to be able to recognize the problem from that page, and you'd have to scrutinize the relevant specs to notice it.
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According to post #8 in this thread:
Maybe that's a whole other WTF for such a new, expensive phone, but the even bigger one is the Google Play edition not supporting the bands needed for T-Mobile, and furthermore the page saying:
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Probably mostly because they don't know better. I didn't when I started looking at the phone. The Google Play page certainly doesn't say anything in plain English about the issue, and implies that it is a good choice for T-Mobile. It's a huge WTF that they would sell an unlocked phone missing a major component of functionality on one of two major US GSM carriers, when there's a version of the phone that includes that component. You'd have to be pretty well informed about the technology to be able to recognize the problem from that page, and you'd have to scrutinize the relevant specs to notice it.
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thanks for that info. guess ill pass for now =(.
Hello guys,
I did see 5hat the Galaxy s9 plus is cheaper through Samsung or through Best Buy Friday. The phone that is cheaper is the unlocked version that works with any carrier including Verizon which I get. My question is will the unlocked version work with, or have a way to download Verizon Visual Voicemail, and will it work? Appreciate the feedback.
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Hello guys,
I did see 5hat the Galaxy s9 plus is cheaper through Samsung or through Best Buy Friday. The phone that is cheaper is the unlocked version that works with any carrier including Verizon which I get. My question is will the unlocked version work with, or have a way to download Verizon Visual Voicemail, and will it work? Appreciate the feedback.
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To piggy back off of this question (since I am in similar boat with AT&T) - Is it possible to flash the phone with the carrier version after purchasing unlocked version? Unfortunately, WiFi calling is a must where I live.
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I'm also in the same situation with Verizon. I want to get the unlocked version, but will everything work just like the verizon branded device? Also does anyone know if the Samsung trade in offer will work with a Verizon phone that's on payment plan?
Also wondering if sideloading the app will work for this purpose.
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I'm also in the same situation with Verizon. I want to get the unlocked version, but will everything work just like the verizon branded device? Also does anyone know if the Samsung trade in offer will work with a Verizon phone that's on payment plan?
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I don't see why they shouldn't take it. I've sold phones on Verizon payment plan and haven't had any problems. The carriers only care that you continue to make payments and fire that they bill you monthly.
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I don't see why they shouldn't take it. I've sold phones on Verizon payment plan and haven't had any problems. The carriers only care that you continue to make payments and fire that they bill you monthly.
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Yes I just finished reading the fine print in Samsung's trade in offer. So the only phones they will not accept as trade ins are leased phones.
Just went through this at Best Buy on Friday, also.
Was strongly considering the unlocked S9+ and porting it to the VZW network. I inquired with the blue-shirt if there would be any loss of functionality should I make such a choice. The answer was "no".
The Samsung representative was in attendance, so I put the question to him as well. After glazing over while he went into an analogy of how your IMEI and SIM card are like licensing a car - and how they all can drive on the same road - I directed him back to the issue at hand, and his response was "no difference".
Then I called VZW, waited for the obligatory 15 minutes on hold, and asked the representative the same question. The answer was "No. None. Exactly the same."
Did a few searches on the feature I was specifically concerned about - that being Wi-Fi calling - and it appeared, from an historical perspective, there would be the potential for that functionality to be absent unless one purchased the branded device.
The VZW store was across the street, so I brought my question to them. In an experience that is as unique as it was surprising, I was lucky enough to get a salesperson who genuinely seemed to want to know the definitive answer as much as I did. He researched his on-line documentation for a few minutes before calling what he claimed to be their "network engineer".
The answer came back that VoLTE would work but Wi-Fi calling would not, on an unlocked S9+ ROM in the VZW network.
I've subsequently read contradicting indications but, considering the self-assigned importance of that capability, I decided not to chance it and find out the hard way that it would not work - should that be the case.
While this does not address your Visual Voice Mail concern, it does demonstrate exactly how many differing answers one can get from supposedly knowledgeable resources.
So, my solution was to lease the branded device with the understanding that I will need to deal with all of the pre-loaded stuff that I (or for that matter, just about anyone) do not need, want or use.
I have seen this questions asked hundreds of times, and I have seen both answers regarding WiFi calling. I know I have purchased unlocked phones right from Google in the past and never had an issue with any feature on VZW. I guess I will find out soon if anything has changed, as I ordered the 9+ unlocked from Samsung (they offered $100 more in a trade and a cheaper base price = no brainer). Will the confusion ever end?
Having had a unlocked s8+ and a Note 8 with VZ I can say VVM does not work. I've tried various applications and am not a fan of using google voice so I reached out and had standard messaging applied to my account and basic VVM removed. I'll get a notification but have to call in to check my voicemail which is no biggie. Never tried wifi calling but HD Voice does work ok. I preordered an unlocked S9+ so I'm sure it'll be the same boat
Verizon had the demo for the s9 plus in their store today, and the model of the phone is IDENTICAL to the unlocked US model. Also kinda wishing I'd stuck to the purple one I'd ordered by accident and cancelled, as it looks amazing in person.
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With the S7, you could flash the any of the carrier or unlocked firmware on the phone. This would give you access to verizon VVM, WiFI calling, etc if you flashed that firmware. I heard the S8 was the same since the hardware in them are the same between carriers. Here's to hoping that the S9 is the same.
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To piggy back off of this question (since I am in similar boat with AT&T) - Is it possible to flash the phone with the carrier version after purchasing unlocked version? Unfortunately, WiFi calling is a must where I live.
Thanks
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If you want WiFi Calling on Att - you MUST buy an ATT phone. ATT WiFi calling will only work with Branded ATT Phones - NOT unlocked ones. Sorry.
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If you want WiFi Calling on Att - you MUST buy an ATT phone. ATT WiFi calling will only work with Branded ATT Phones - NOT unlocked ones. Sorry.
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This is true. If you want wifi calling (which I do), you need an AT&T phone. You can't flash anything on the phone to make it work. A few extra AT&T apps is not a big deal on a phone like this to get the features they provide. If you pay for their service you should get all the benefits but that's not how it is for now.
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This is true. If you want wifi calling (which I do), you need an AT&T phone. You can't flash anything on the phone to make it work. A few extra AT&T apps is not a big deal on a phone like this to get the features they provide. If you pay for their service you should get all the benefits but that's not how it is for now.
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And that is very unfortunate. I am hoping that one day they will open up WiFi Calling to non carrier phones - but I doubt it will happen any time soon if at all.
Is it the same for tmobile?
Just got off the phone with a Tier 2 Tech Coach with VZW and they said that they can only "guarantee the VZW branded phones will work with their features." I specifically asked about VVM and WiFi calling. They suggested I stick to the VZW branded model. I explained that their model was virtually $100 more than the unlocked version from Samsung and I wasn't sure why that was on "basically the same phone." She was kind and courteous, but certainly it's another way for Big Red to make more money.
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Is it the same for tmobile?
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GS8 Unlocked worked with both VoLTE and Wifi Calling on TMO so there is no reason for the GS9+ unlocked not to support these features.
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Is it the same for tmobile?
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raejr78 said:
Just got off the phone with a Tier 2 Tech Coach with VZW and they said that they can only "guarantee the VZW branded phones will work with their features." I specifically asked about VVM and WiFi calling. They suggested I stick to the VZW branded model. I explained that their model was virtually $100 more than the unlocked version from Samsung and I wasn't sure why that was on "basically the same phone." She was kind and courteous, but certainly it's another way for Big Red to make more money.
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Problem with VZW is support for integrated video calling thru the phone app which is different from the Samsung default. On VZW the unlocked USA version will support VoLTE but not WIfi Calling, VVM, Video Calling.
my 2 cents.
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Just got off the phone with a Tier 2 Tech Coach with VZW and they said that they can only "guarantee the VZW branded phones will work with their features." I specifically asked about VVM and WiFi calling. They suggested I stick to the VZW branded model. I explained that their model was virtually $100 more than the unlocked version from Samsung and I wasn't sure why that was on "basically the same phone." She was kind and courteous, but certainly it's another way for Big Red to make more money.
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They're wrong. I tested a Verizon model in stores, and it's literally the exact same model number as the unlocked one I've got on order from Samsung. But of course they want you to buy the Verizon one, the mark up in the price is pure profit for them, and they probably get a commission for selling it to you.
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raejr78 said:
Just got off the phone with a Tier 2 Tech Coach with VZW and they said that they can only "guarantee the VZW branded phones will work with their features." I specifically asked about VVM and WiFi calling. They suggested I stick to the VZW branded model. I explained that their model was virtually $100 more than the unlocked version from Samsung and I wasn't sure why that was on "basically the same phone." She was kind and courteous, but certainly it's another way for Big Red to make more money.
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Don't forget their useless $30+ "activation fee" they charge when you buy a device through them. I shouldn't have to pay $30 to take the SIM out of my old phone and put it in my new phone. I'm going with the unlocked version because I'm considering switching to T-Mobile due to all this type of crap Verizon pulls.
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Yes I just finished reading the fine print in Samsung's trade in offer. So the only phones they will not accept as trade ins are leased phones.
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So I'm curious what happens if you have a leased phone. Do they just not accept it and then charge your card for what you weren't charged at time of checkout?