If I want the official update instead of flashing something, would I have to go back to stock Rom and/or unroot?
I've deleted bloatware and have frozen a few things, what should I do to ensure I'd get the latest update?
Thanks
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there won't be an update until at least sometime next year I wouldn't worry for a while.
The only phone get ICS directly from Google is Galaxy Nexus (and maybe Galaxy S). We have to get update from AT&T who must get update (and sit on it) from Samsung who get the ICS source from Google then make a ROM out of it.
So, official ICS for i777 is probably 6 months away. If you have custom ROMs, you won't be able to upgrade via the official process. If you rooted, you may or may not be able upgrade successfully either (it depends how much AT&T/samsung hates you).
But, I'm pretty sure official ICS ROM will be leaked months before AT&T release it. You can then download the flash to that instead of waiting for AT&T to release it. When you do that, rooted or custom ROM does not matter since it will wipe your phone clean.
The only benefit of waiting for official release is that the upgrade process won't wipe your phone clean. You get to keep all your settings and apps.
CollegeProfesor said:
If I want the official update instead of flashing something, would I have to go back to stock Rom and/or unroot?
I've deleted bloatware and have frozen a few things, what should I do to ensure I'd get the latest update?
Thanks
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to answer your question, no one can be 100% sure if you will get the OTA update even if you're still running the stock rom while rooted. It should work but it may not.
Then as everyone else said, I wouldn't worry about it at this point. Our i777 has not been guaranteed an ICS update and even if it is getting it, it wont be for a long time. Long enough not to worry about that question at this point in time.
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Right now I am running stock vibrant software with the kingklick oc kernel, oncl, and stock 2.1 unlock screen.
My question is when froyo comes out (hopefully soon) will I be ok to install the ota update. Our do I need to uninstall the lag fix and other mods.
Thanks in advance.
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You would have to change your kernel, and it's best if you do a wipe when installing any new rom, especially a new firmware.
Does a froyo update not replace the kernel?
I had a similar question. Stock, unrooted Vibrant.... I got the JI5 update last week over Kies. Then I read that T-Mo had said not to install it. Are the odds good that I will have to jump through hoops to get the OTA when it finally comes?
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I had a similar question. Stock, unrooted Vibrant.... I got the JI5 update last week over Kies. Then I read that T-Mo had said not to install it. Are the odds good that I will have to jump through hoops to get the OTA when it finally comes?
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The odds are you will need to Odin back to JFD to get the update via OTA.
However the odds are also that you will find it packaged here ready to Odin before you get it via OTA. OTA's are pushed out in batches, not to every single phone at once, so it can takes days or weeks for an OTA to complete for every device.
If you're already here (and it appears you are), you will know what to do when everyone else here does.
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I had a similar question. Stock, unrooted Vibrant.... I got the JI5 update last week over Kies. Then I read that T-Mo had said not to install it. Are the odds good that I will have to jump through hoops to get the OTA when it finally comes?
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I'm in the same spot as you. I've got a vanilla Vibe and jumped on that Kies update =)
It's a great update and fixed the GPS issue but regarding the OTA, I'm sure we'll find out what's going on once the T-Mobile updates start rolling. Fear not, you're in the right spot.
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The odds are you will need to Odin back to JFD to get the update via OTA.
However the odds are also that you will find it packaged here ready to Odin before you get it via OTA. OTA's are pushed out in batches, not to every single phone at once, so it can takes days or weeks for an OTA to complete for every device.
If you're already here (and it appears you are), you will know what to do when everyone else here does.
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Thanks for the info.
I've been around a while just lurking & learning. I've been dieing to root this phone (first android) but didn't want to do it and turn around after and return to stock for 2.2. It does look like we will have a rom before it comes OTA anyway.
I'm sure someone will take the Froyo OTA and make a Clockwork Flashable Rom if you dont want to ODIN. So hang tight and check back because believe me that as soon as the OTA goes out, it will be on a download mirror for all us in less than 24 hours.
Its a game.
They come out with something
The Devs make it flashable
They leak something
The Devs make it flashable
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They leak something
The Devs make it flashable.
When the official 2.2 froyo DOES come out, will we all need to revert back to stock before the update if we have custom roms for example bionix rom. Thanks
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Usually someone here on xda will have a .zip file of the OTA to flash over any rom. But to get the OTA then yes you need to go back to stco.
Stock meaning the official JI6 since that is the most recent firmware update.
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When the official 2.2 froyo DOES come out, will we all need to revert back to stock before the update if we have custom roms for example bionix rom. Thanks
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If you actually want to receive the update over the air? Yes.
The reality though is a bit more complex. Updates are rolled out in batches, meaning every phone will not get the update simultaneously. Given this, you are far more likely to get the update from HERE than via an OTA in anything remotely resembling a timely fashion.
With the strong likelihood that the above ends up being true (as it almost always is) the answer would end up being no. You're here after all, so take advantage of that.
^ pretty much exactly what I was going to say. Enjoy the custom ROM till we can get our hands on the offical.. someone will upload a stock froyo with root that you can flash just like you did your custom rom. Also, I'v heard really good things about Eugenes froyo that's in the dev. section... I'm patiently waiting, but for those really wanting froyo, seems like Eugene has a pretty solid build now.
Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Not necessarily. There are advantages to moving to a custom rom. Look over relevant stickies (at the top of subsections), review the OP of roms, read user feedback, then decide.
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so. With some minor tweaks (removal of bloatware, mostly) and the right apps, stock is working just fine for me. I'll wait until we have ICS source and some new ROMs based on it before I go custom.
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
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I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so.
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Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
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Actually until the download site problem is completely resolved, it doesn't hurt to root, then make a backup of the stock ROM to keep just in case. If you do need it, then you've got it, and it doesn't take that much space.
Yeah, considering how often download sites go boom nowadays, keeping a local backup is probably a good idea.
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
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Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Going back to stock is a download and Odin away.
Then you can go to the magical Official ICS that will probably not come out anytime soon.
I'm going to wait until the end of march since that is officially when Samsung says they will have it for the galaxy series. Now I know that doesn't mean squat what with carrier delays and all that crap that slows the update process down,
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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That manager wanted your money.
Hi.
I got a Samsung Galaxy Nexus with Android 4.3
Since i never really used Google Now, i used Root Uninstaller/Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" those apps.
Now, when i'm trying to get the OTA update on my SGN, it fails.
I used this app to freeze with
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rootuninstaller.free
I suspect it has somehting to do with the apps being frozen.
My problem is, that Uninstaller Pro can't unfreeze the apps, when i try to do so, the problem just locks, and nothing happens.
Anyone got a suggestion on how to proceed so i can update my phone ?
I'm not scared of using ADB.
Best regards!
It is likely that the ota won't work as you are rooted, return to unrooted stock if that's what you prefer, I doubt simply unfreezing apps will help much.
If what you want is a rooted stock (most up to date) ROM then consider a custom one as I'm sure someone has or will make one shortly, otherwise go back to stock, take the ota, the reroot. Afterall its a nexus, rooting is quick and easy
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It is likely that the ota won't work as you are rooted, return to unrooted stock if that's what you prefer, I doubt simply unfreezing apps will help much.
If what you want is a rooted stock (most up to date) ROM then consider a custom one as I'm sure someone has or will make one shortly, otherwise go back to stock, take the ota, the reroot. Afterall its a nexus, rooting is quick and easy
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When i went from 4.2.2 to 4.3 i had no problems with OTA update even though i was rooted.
And i never had problems with updating rooted roms before. But perhaps something has changed in 4.3 that i don't know of
I am waiting on a note 2 to arrive in the mail. It's rooted on stock 4.1.2. I have a few questions before I start tinkering with it when it gets here. I really would like to keep all of the spen features, so I have determined it's best to stay with a TW based ROM. If I flash a 4.3 tw ROM and don't like it or find it unstable, is it possible to flash back to a stock 4.1.2? From what I've read it is.
The only thing I don't want to do is an ota 4.4 update correct? This would unroot and lock boatloader?
Is there a certain rom anyone would suggest a noob to start with?
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I am waiting on a note 2 to arrive in the mail. It's rooted on stock 4.1.2. I have a few questions before I start tinkering with it when it gets here. I really would like to keep all of the spen features, so I have determined it's best to stay with a TW based ROM. If I flash a 4.3 tw ROM and don't like it or find it unstable, is it possible to flash back to a stock 4.1.2? From what I've read it is.
The only thing I don't want to do is an ota 4.4 update correct? This would unroot and lock boatloader?
Is there a certain rom anyone would suggest a noob to start with?
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Make sure your phone is unlocked as well before you attempt any custom ROMs. To unlock search for link to Adam Outler's CASUAL on this forum. In my experience 4.3 ROMS are pretty stable. If you want to keep looted and unlocked, do not ever take ota from the vendor.
Ellcnlael said:
I am waiting on a note 2 to arrive in the mail. It's rooted on stock 4.1.2. I have a few questions before I start tinkering with it when it gets here. I really would like to keep all of the spen features, so I have determined it's best to stay with a TW based ROM. If I flash a 4.3 tw ROM and don't like it or find it unstable, is it possible to flash back to a stock 4.1.2? From what I've read it is.
The only thing I don't want to do is an ota 4.4 update correct? This would unroot and lock boatloader?
Is there a certain rom anyone would suggest a noob to start with?
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Taking an ota of anything above 4.1.2 will lock the bootloader for good right now. Flashing roms through custom recovery such as twrp or cwm of 4.3 and 4.4 is fine. Also, if you need to Odin back to stock for whatever reason only use the stock image for 4.1.2.
Oh and never update the bootloader.
Awesome, it just come in the mail. It's in great shape, and I have verified that it is rooted and running 4.1.2. During my setup, it keeps wanting to download the ota from Verizon. I force stopped it and was able to catch it before it downloaded.
Is there a way to keep Verizon from pushing uupdates or it being downloaded in the background?
EDIT: ok maybe I figured this out. I followed the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2112221&page=4
I installed titanium backup, backedup sdm1.0, then uninstalled it. Is this what the majority is doing to safeguard against a forced update?
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Awesome, it just come in the mail. It's in great shape, and I have verified that it is rooted and running 4.1.2. During my setup, it keeps wanting to download the ota from Verizon. I force stopped it and was able to catch it before it downloaded.
Is there a way to keep Verizon from pushing uupdates or it being downloaded in the background?
EDIT: ok maybe I figured this out. I followed the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2112221&page=4
I installed titanium backup, backedup sdm1.0, then uninstalled it. Is this what the majority is doing to safeguard against a forced update?
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Yes. Either that or flash a custom rom when you get unlocked , most of them have it disabled
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