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Hey guys,a question about the SGS2 popped into my head earlier that I had forgotten to care about.
How durable is the GS2?I mean without silicon cases etc.It depends on the quality of the plastic used.
I know that the screen is pretty durable for sure(isn't it Gorilla Glass?),but what about the rest of the phone.From what I've heard,the original Galaxy S was pretty durable(heard stories of phones flying out of cars' windows etc),and my current Desire HD is really durable("really" is there because I have personal experience from the phone,not because it's more durable than the GS or something).
I intend to take care of my phone(Who doesn't take care of a 600 euro phone? ),but you cannot never be too sure!
Any feedback WITHOUT FLAMING OR HATING INCLUDED (taking precautions here as some people tend to defend the awesomeness of Sammy's phones with far too much zeal) is welcome.
Still eagerly waiting for the phone to arrive!
A lot of people think plastic automatically equates to bad build quality. Well, the Galaxy S II is proof that isn't the case -- it doesn't creek and there are numerous reports of people dropping theirs with no marks.
To sum up - does it feel as tough in the hand as my old HTC Leo? No. But does that mean it isn't? Not necessarily. I have had mine for a month with no build quality issues and long may it continue.
Durable = lasting in spite of hard wear or frequent use
So time alone will tell one month most definitely will not .
jje
Well,I am happy to see you two guys here(You ermmm...answered in a not so wanted manner in my other thread,remember?).Perhaps we started wrong,but never is too late now,is it?
I never said that plastic means build quality is bad.It's just more likely to mean so than aluminium is,because there are various qualities of plastic and no one can guarantee(is it spelled like that?I'm studying atm so my English is a bit out of the ordinary,too many mistakes,sorry) that a manufacturer uses high quality plastic.
However it doesn't need to scream quality.My father has a Panasonic DSLR which is mainly(if not completely) mad of plastic.It has fallen on soil,water,rocks(in a cave-holy sh*t that man! ) and other surfaces numerous time and there is only a tiny(Like the tip of a nail) piece broken from the lens' cover.Nothing serious considering it's been going through that stuff for about four years now!
What I wanna say is that the GS2 might prove far better than most of us believe.
Did you guys own a GS1?What are your experiences from it?I mean apart from the usual problems with the device,like gps.
Again,thanks for your replies guys!I hope we will be cooperating and understanding each other better in the future!
(I hope I don't sound like a politician,but we have to be polite,don't we? )
JJEgan said:
Durable = lasting in spite of hard wear or frequent use
So time alone will tell one month most definitely will not .
jje
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This deserves its own reply...
Don't say one month won't tell anything.Give a phone to my sister.If it survives the month,it's most likely extremely lucky or extremely well made!
Like the original sgs id say its a lot more durable than it feels- Ive droped mine already, but didnt get a scratch
Yes i droped mine within 10mins of opening the box lol it bounced but no marks chips cracks scratches nothing. On the other hand i droped my desire hd when i had it and that gained a dent in the top both droped in my living room so they both took the same tumble and hit the same floor.
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Hard to say, wait some weeks for more stories to develop
I'd say since there aren't many (any?) people screaming "ONOES IT BROKE ALREADY", it's probably made pretty well.
If it had truly bad build quality there would surely be some people complaining about it by now!
Once I got mine, I thought it felt like a toy and got a case for it immediately, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be able to survive a drop. It just means my financial paranoia got the better of me
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I'd say since there aren't many (any?) people screaming "ONOES IT BROKE ALREADY", it's probably made pretty well.
If it had truly bad build quality there would surely be some people complaining about it by now!
Once I got mine, I thought it felt like a toy and got a case for it immediately, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be able to survive a drop. It just means my financial paranoia got the better of me
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Yeah,that last part is exactly how I feel!
Joking aside you are right.We haven't even heard of someone bricking their device!How strange is that?Do idiots not buy the SGS2?Or is the software THAT easy to recover from anything?
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Hopefully I'm getting mine tomorrow but If you look at the situation in which you'll drop the GSII logically.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, btw )
If you drop it, it's lighter, meaning it has less momentum on it, meaning that there's less force acting on the phone when it goes "smashing" into the ground and is there's less force, it's more likely to survive.
OFC not sure how that situation will take place in real life though.
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Yes i droped mine within 10mins of opening the box lol it bounced but no marks chips cracks scratches nothing. On the other hand i droped my desire hd when i had it and that gained a dent in the top both droped in my living room so they both took the same tumble and hit the same floor.
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Well,in a similar scenario my DHD kinda damaged the floor more than the floor damaged it.
Well,comparing the two isn't really that much fair.See,the way I see it,the biggest advantage of the plastic used on with the Galaxy series is that the reduced weight of the phones makes the force with which they hit the ground,should they fall,much smaller.And,using common sense,this means less damage.
That is my opinion though!
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Hopefully I'm getting mine tomorrow but If you look at the situation in which you'll drop the GSII logically.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, btw )
If you drop it, it's lighter, meaning it has less momentum on it, meaning that there's less force acting on the phone when it goes "smashing" into the ground and is there's less force, it's more likely to survive.
OFC not sure how that situation will take place in real life though.
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Yeah,whatever you said.You beat me to it.Damn,I should start replying from my PC more!
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One more question guys...
How is Samsung with their warranties?Do they honour it as they should?And how do they treat people with rooted devices?
HTC is well known for the fact that they are quite good with their warranties so,coming from a long line of HTCs,I'd like to know about Samsung too.
Thanks!
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It feels fragile, but like someone just said the amount we've paid for them does instill some paranoia. I had my first test yesterday. In a Case-Mate Tough Case, the phone fell out of my hand, dropped arrow straight vertically and landed on one top corner. It then flopped on its face. This was on a concrete floor. I know the case saved it, but regardless the shock it took was pretty severe. So it's not frail and I'm now a Case-Mate fan.
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One more question guys...
How is Samsung with their warranties?Do they honour it as they should?And how do they treat people with rooted devices?
HTC is well known for the fact that they are quite good with their warranties so,coming from a long line of HTCs,I'd like to know about Samsung too.
Thanks!
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Are you buying sim-free? And I haven't heard any rants about warranty, so I'm assuming it's good.
Plastic definitely has it's advantages. When you think of all the shattered iP4's, and the comments above about dented aluminum HTC's it might be a blessing. That and of course weight has me thinking maybe the Sensations hand feel might not be so great when it's out of your hands....and into gravity's
I dropped mine 12 days ago.
Took it out of my pocket whilst hurrying to get to a meeting I was late for, juggled it, managing to launch it to about 5ft in the air before it landed totally flat, face down on concrete with some small stones scattered across it.
That shattered the glass and broke the LCD screen. NO damage or marks anywhere else. It has been in for repair (£90 quoted) with the official Samsung service centre in Luton since Saturday 21st. Samsung are taking their time sending the replacement.
Just a little bit annoying!
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Are you buying sim-free? And I haven't heard any rants about warranty, so I'm assuming it's good.
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Yep,I'm always buying sim-free.I hope they are at least as good as HTC.If not...Well,I hope I don't fry my phone(I'm a heavy overclocker)!
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I dropped mine 12 days ago.
Took it out of my pocket whilst hurrying to get to a meeting I was late for, juggled it, managing to launch it to about 5ft in the air before it landed totally flat, face down on concrete with some small stones scattered across it.
That shattered the glass and broke the LCD screen. NO damage or marks anywhere else. It has been in for repair (£90 quoted) with the official Samsung service centre in Luton since Saturday 21st. Samsung are taking their time sending the replacement.
Just a little bit annoying!
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Aha...Then Gorilla Glass isn't made to endure severe abuse!
Although I think 90 pounds for the screen is a little too much...
I'm looking a waterproof, and hardwearing phone for my mum.
She wants an android phone that she can take kayaking with her. She is planning on using an app like 'endomondo' to track her activities on the river but when paddling you do occasionally fall in!
So... a question for all Active owners... how waterproof is it really?
It's not going to go very far underwater, a meter or so at most. The advertising blurb says it should be fine but was after some assurance from users that know!
many thanks in advance...
waterproof
Yes it is waterproof!
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thanks for the link.I guess that proves it!
Are there any phones that can go deeper underwater atm?
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thanks for the link.I guess that proves it!
Are there any phones that can go deeper underwater atm?
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Google something like "rugged phone 2011" - there are several phones that claim to be especially made for outdoor persuit activities and you'll be able to check the specs (and see what they actually guarantee). I'd also look at (less geeky) sites specialising in such activities - perhaps a canoe club or society. Good money says that they'll have greater expertise on this subject than the average software writer.
One other point - there are protectors available for many phones. The cheapest are basically plastic bags - the dearest are custom fitted, sealed hard-cases (pretty much the same sort of thing you get for cameras). You can find those in online stores but you may get more detailed infromation by looking at specialist outdoor shopping sites (you can always get the info then see if it's cheaper elsewhere).
hi thanks for the reply.
ive tried numerous searches however there are many phones that are 'coming out soon', or are simply in japan and not over here yet!
I was seeking some inside knowledge lol
I've seen waterproof cases for nearly every phone around however would rather it did not have to use a case as it it very important for it to be hassle free and easy to use. She will be upgrading from an old nokia in a plastic bag!
Although not entirely submerged, mine was tested in a glass of water at work during a lunch break.
Evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7a0HH6brAQ
(but for super-rugged, I'd look at Sonim. Some models they'll apparently replace no-questions-asked if water damaged. Not android, however)
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Yes, but my experience says, the network coverage goes quickly down - the deeper You submerege the phone underwater. So speaking underwater or texting is not possible, but....
Camera still works fine even deep.
ha... i dont think she will use it underwater! Its just in case the boat capsises...
so ideally the phone would be ok down to about 2m... just in case!
Is there really not an android phone in the UK that will go down to 2m and survive?
i dropped my active in a bucket of water and left it there for 5 minutes
i discovered water between the main and the second cover and my voice sound robotic after taking a call , there was water in the mic hole ..
i will never drop it again for sure !!
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i dropped my active in a bucket of water and left it there for 5 minutes
i discovered water between the main and the second cover and my voice sound robotic after taking a call , there was water in the mic hole ..
i will never drop it again for sure !!
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Is this true? I had motorola defy and submerge it on a pitcher for 2hours but still good after that.. No I have an active but never tried to submerge or even splash it with h2o...
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waterpoof
Yes, the water is supposed to go between first and second cover. If You open it up, You'll see, the second cover has a seal to make it waterproof. So that's normal.
If mic is wet, the sound distortion is also normal, since water distorts it quite badly. The first cover holds the second tightly to keep it waterproof.
Would something like a Sonim XP3300 Force be suitable - around £250.
That phone is sold as water-proof to 2m for an hour and can even be dropped 2m into concrete without harm (it also claims to have the longest battery life of any phone in the world). Has A-GPS and the usual "extras" to go online etc. Buttons designed to be used whilst wearing gloves. It's basically designed for heavy industry.
Double check but I understand it comes complete with a load of "extras" included in the price - case, car and wall charger, dashboard mount etc - that may make the price more attractive.
It just made it into the Guinness Book of Records - it's officially the world's toughest phone
From personal experience I can assure you its
As waterproof as it should be. The obly review that managed to make me buy this phone was this: dcrainmaker.com/2011/09/hands-on-review-of-sony-ericsson-xperia.html
This guy actually makes a real life test of the phone. I myself work at construction so I have cement splashing on it, and all I have to do it take a shower with it to make it aaaaalright
Regarding the defy... Well its got a larger screen, but it looks more flimsy than the Active. What sorta put me off on the defy is the quality of the power and minijack rubber plugs. They would only last not so long on my hands... All you have to do on the active is change the back cover. The only drawback for me being accustomed to a physical keyboard amd a 3,7" screen of my Desire Z is the size of the onscreen keyboard of the 3 inch screen.
Also expect somewhat better battery life on the Active than the defy. Almost 50% of the battery drain is from the screen, and having 60% less pixels on a screen you easily go through 2 days of moderate-heavy use.
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Had HTC phones for the past 4years now, Loved the Diamond and HD2, Hated the Plastic HD7 and drooled over the Titan when I first got it, Got a Lumia 800 the other day which was very cheap so gave it a go, Totally sold on it now, Screen so much better and the colours really vivid, Curved screen is a nice touch and the Nokia apps a real treat, Have ordered a Free Lumia 900 with a new contract so just gotta wait for that now, Think I can live with the slightly smaller screem on the 900, So impressed with the build quality overall of the Nokias, Think I will keep the Titan for now just in case the 900 turns out to be too good to be true but judging from the 800 I have high hopes, Time will tell
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Had HTC phones for the past 4years now, Loved the Diamond and HD2, Hated the Plastic HD7 and drooled over the Titan when I first got it, Got a Lumia 800 the other day which was very cheap so gave it a go, Totally sold on it now, Screen so much better and the colours really vivid, Curved screen is a nice touch and the Nokia apps a real treat, Have ordered a Free Lumia 900 with a new contract so just gotta wait for that now, Think I can live with the slightly smaller screem on the 900, So impressed with the build quality overall of the Nokias, Think I will keep the Titan for now just in case the 900 turns out to be too good to be true but judging from the 800 I have high hopes, Time will tell
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Got Lumia 800 myself this morning and tell you what - it's a beauty!
I loved Windows Phone from day 1, but after using Lumia 800 (no FFC, small phone, no added camera features) - I haven't touched my Titan since!
The colours make it all so pleasant I think. It just feels so beautiful and good.
I have made up my mind. Never, ever, ever, ever buy S-LCD or SS-LCD or SSS-LCD over an Ameloid or S-Ameloid especially the one with ClearBlack technology! It's well worth giving away big screen, front facing camera and panorama shots!
Oh, wait did I say big screen? Of course I din't mean that. The only reason I am using my Titan back from tomorrow is because I LOVE it's enormous screen size. If I can, I will get Lumia 900 for sure.
The "Lumias" are gorgeous girls in the town. However "Lumia 900" has long legs and a dimple on her cheek (FFC I mean!)
Ha ha that's a great way of putting it, Am glad am not the only one falling for the lumias charms
I will never buy any tech (tablet or phone) with amoled screens due to potential burn in over time. The Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 has burn in issues and i saw a lumia 800 with screen burn too with my own eyes. Super LCD is just as good (without being over saturated).
I love my Titan and can never go back to 4.3 again.
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Ha ha that's a great way of putting it, Am glad am not the only one falling for the lumias charms
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It's design is gorgeous! If it was the Meego OS, I wouldn't have been so attracted I guess. But WP + the design has made me feel like cheating on the titan!
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I will never buy any tech (tablet or phone) with amoled screens due to potential burn in over time. The Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 has burn in issues and i saw a lumia 800 with screen burn too with my own eyes. Super LCD is just as good (without being over saturated).
I love my Titan and can never go back to 4.3 again.
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I agree with the screen size here, but am not sure about the burns. I am rationalising it this way - The phones I use only last or should last for a year or two at max. If it burns after that period, it's ok. But the looks and colours are SO stunning with clearblack technology on Lumias!
Yeah am not that worried about the burn in either as I change my phones more often than necessary lol, Have serious issues I know Get bored very quickly but am happy knowing WP7 will get even better with time as other OS have.
Well guys I already did it. I'm really good about taking care of my phones. Screen protector and case. Just got my Titan II yesterday and dropped it on the bathroom tile floor. I made the mistake of trying to save it but in the long run pushed it harder on the tile. It landed on the back side at least. I did have the case mate on it from att and a screen protector. Seems to be running fine no scratches or anything. Should I be worried?
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Did the screen break? If not, the only thing I'd be concerned about is the camera lens being broken. It's built pretty solid like the Inspire 4G so unless the screen is broken, no worries mate.
I feel ya though! I've dropped only 1 phone only 1 time and it was shattered (HD7)! Scary feeling
Thanks for the reply. No shattering here. Just pissed I guess. Thanks .. Putting my mind at ease.
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Keep a close eye on it though, I dropped my Titan onto carpet from around 3 feet whilst in its soft leather case, No damage whatsoever, Two days later it decided to get extremely hot at the rear casing, The screen would not light up and the battery ran flat in minutes, Maybe just a freak occurance but it needed to go back to HTC and they sent me a new handset, I wasn't impressed.
Sometimes i wounder it things falling are better off alone as they fall since most of the time the attempt to catch it ends up with it being slapped across the room (down), but aslong as the the camera/flash work with no visible damage then you got lucky this time.
One more thing you *might* want to check is your call quality. Since you've mentioned it fell on it's back, your antenna contacts might have pressed a little too hard on the case. See if incoming calls and outgoing calls have good enough call quality as it was before the drop. My first titan got screwed with the mic after a drop on the pavement, luckily got a replacement at the store.
hey, don't worry mate - as it is a windows phone it's made to handle tiles
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hey, don't worry mate - as it is a windows phone it's made to handle tiles
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Genius!!! Pure Genius man!!
But to op, I wouldn't worry to much because I have dropped my titan multiple times on my tile with nothing but a screen protector and everything is all fine and dandy. If there is one special thing HTC has got going for them I'd say its premium build quality compared to other phone makers.
I bought this second hand and I wanted to know how is it working out for you guys after 2 years
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I bought this second hand and I wanted to know how is it working out for you guys after 2 years
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Shame to admit but terrible...
I am looking into repairs right now for the phone my girl used for the last two years. I bought her HTC HD7 for time being.
Well...here it goes:
1. Touch Screen goes funny, you need to lock-unlock the screen 1-2 times for it to react normally again.
2. The main case lock is a bit loose. The spring mechanism is still strong though making the screen semi detached from the main case. (I am really sorry for my English, I had a bottle of wine in me too, which I am sure doesn't help, but I hope you will get me) Basically the phone case is not locking fully.
3. USB port is dead. No, really dead! Charges under certain angle. Computer won't even recognize the phone.
4. Microphone is dying. People complain that I sound like I am using a speaker phone.
5. Power chip died a few month ago. Had to repair. They re-soldered it, which was pretty impressive considering the fact how small it is. (they gave me the old one in a plastic bag as a souvenir.
I mean, yes, my girl friend is not so good with Tech stuff... I beg you to check the phone yourself before buying it. It depends a lot on the user... They are not the highest quality build, although they certainly look very solid.
Regards,
A
PS - power chip = power management chip. Won't charge/turn on
Karachii said:
Shame to admit but terrible...
I am looking into repairs right now for the phone my girl used for the last two years. I bought her HTC HD7 for time being.
Well...here it goes:
1. Touch Screen goes funny, you need to lock-unlock the screen 1-2 times for it to react normally again.
2. The main case lock is a bit loose. The spring mechanism is still strong though making the screen semi detached from the main case. (I am really sorry for my English, I had a bottle of wine in me too, which I am sure doesn't help, but I hope you will get me) Basically the phone case is not locking fully.
3. USB port is dead. No, really dead! Charges under certain angle. Computer won't even recognize the phone.
4. Microphone is dying. People complain that I sound like I am using a speaker phone.
5. Power chip died a few month ago. Had to repair. They re-soldered it, which was pretty impressive considering the fact how small it is. (they gave me the old one in a plastic bag as a souvenir.
I mean, yes, my girl friend is not so good with Tech stuff... I beg you to check the phone yourself before buying it. It depends a lot on the user... They are not the highest quality build, although they certainly look very solid.
Regards,
A
PS - power chip = power management chip. Won't charge/turn on
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Got two of them and both work flawless and I've yet made the jump to WP8 though I recently bought a Lumia 520 for a friend's daughter and will likely make the jump soon. Still waiting on where some are going with the Samsung Ativ S and interop unlock.
Sold mine to a friend which has a habit of breaking his phones, and now, a year and a half down the road, the phone is still going strong.
The metal bezel around the screen has changed color due to hard wear, and the back cover is both dented and scratched, but the phone it self is working as normal.
I would give this a 5 out of 6 for durability.
-KJ