Hey everyone! I currently own a Droid Eris that's completely rooted and running Gingerbread.
I'm so used to launchers now, I really can't go back to sense. Sense is bloat, and really hogs up the phone's resources.
With all this said: Can the Rezound use launchers like Launcher Pro or ADW EX?
But also, if Launcher Pro was running, is sense still running in the background? Is my performance going to be worse off? Is there any way to freeze all of that background gunk while launcher pro is doing it's thing or will it constantly stay there eating up my RAM?
Thanks guys, I'm just really used to my Eris being sense-less and scared about the performance of the Rezound being muddled down with sense.
Performance is fine, you need to relax. Eris just sucks because it is slower than balls and has no ram.
Yes you can use other launchers and performance will still be great.
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I'm using launcher pro on mine, sense doesn't seem to keep running, at least the launcher, considering i got a couple extra hours of battery when i switched... could be useage, but i think LPP definately helped some.
Your phone closes any background apps that aren't being used if more ram is needed for your active apps. If you download a third party launcher like Go or LauncherPro and let them run for a while then try to go back to the Sense launcher it'll more than likely take you to the HTC loading screen meaning it was closed automatically by the system beforehand.
So basically it'll eventually be closed automatically once you start using another launcher.
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using lpp // seems to be the fastest // saw lag with go and adw...
if you use the rezound with sense, it'll still be 50x faster than the eris WITHOUT sense on it at all. believe me. my eris is running CM and it's still slower than this thing lol
I also used go and there was significant lag with 2 widgets on 1 screen.
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Launcher Pro Plus here, too. I sometimes go back to Sense just for fun and something different for a couple days (I REALLY like it's People widget better than LPP), but always end up coming back.
Now if I could just find a better people/quick dial widget.....
I run both LP and GO.
I however see no lag with GO.... 5 screens multiple widgets
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Launcher Pro Plus here, too. I sometimes go back to Sense just for fun and something different for a couple days (I REALLY like it's People widget better than LPP), but always end up coming back.
Now if I could just find a better people/quick dial widget.....
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I really really like the people widget on the latest Blur (like on the Razr)...It's the one with a grid of favorite contacts that displays the top 4 on the home screen but you can pull it down like a shade to show the rest of the grid. I wonder if it's possible to extract that widget and run it on other phones/launchers.
I'm using Go Launcher along with the lockscreen. According to the task manager I've saved well over 200MB of memory in the process. Once this phone gets some ROMs coming out, it will be a really nice phone. I keep seeing that the Gnex speaker is weak. Along with no SD slot, a rooted, ROM'd Rezound will be a solid long-term phone.
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Launcher Pro Plus here, too. I sometimes go back to Sense just for fun and something different for a couple days (I REALLY like it's People widget better than LPP), but always end up coming back.
Now if I could just find a better people/quick dial widget.....
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Personally I just have shortcuts to my 4 faves on my screen (direct dial) much more efficient.
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I'm using Go Launcher along with the lockscreen. According to the task manager I've saved well over 200MB of memory in the process. Once this phone gets some ROMs coming out, it will be a really nice phone. I keep seeing that the Gnex speaker is weak. Along with no SD slot, a rooted, ROM'd Rezound will be a solid long-term phone.
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Absolutely. personally I think Santa is gonna be real nice to us this year
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I'm using Go Launcher along with the lockscreen. According to the task manager I've saved well over 200MB of memory in the process. Once this phone gets some ROMs coming out, it will be a really nice phone. I keep seeing that the Gnex speaker is weak. Along with no SD slot, a rooted, ROM'd Rezound will be a solid long-term phone.
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agreed, set up go launcher as well and very pleased with it. Nice change of pace. only thing I need to figure out is the size of the docks so I can install a few. tried the ones from lpro but they dont look right not big enough that is.
Go launcher is amazing. No lag, smooth like butter. iWhat?
I saw some lag with Go did I did not see on the Razr. It was going from one screen with people widget to another screen with calendar, and the cylinder transition effect. It was not horrible though.
I've used Go Launcher exclusively on every phone for the last two years. On the Rezound it absolutely screams.
Don't get me wrong, I really like some of the Sense features and widgets but Sense was draining the battery, creating lag and causing restarts.
I use a dark theme in Go and battery life has improved noticeably.
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I've used Go Launcher exclusively on every phone for the last two years. On the Rezound it absolutely screams.
Don't get me wrong, I really like some of the Sense features and widgets but Sense was draining the battery, creating lag and causing restarts.
I use a dark theme in Go and battery life has improved noticeably.
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hmmm maybe worth revisiting/ I was seeing serious lag w/go.. I like the ui and may go back, but LPP has the best stock skin-able widgets (calendar and twitter)
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hmmm maybe worth revisiting/ I was seeing serious lag w/go.. I like the ui and may go back, but LPP has the best stock skin-able widgets (calendar and twitter)
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Funny how different each device is from the other. It must be what we install (other apps, launcher setup, etc.) that is impacting our performance I'm a huge lpro plus fan but was having weird lag issues with it on the rezound. I tried go launcher and it seems much smoother. lol. I do agree on the lpro widgets and would like to try it again but I'm still perplexed why we would see any lag with the horsepower on this device? Could it be the launchers are not optimized or the hd screen or sense running in the background? Just throwing out possibilities with zero knowledge or proof. lol.
I think I may just try lpro again to see if it was just a one-off situation since go launcher is working well. thanks.
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Funny how different each device is from the other. It must be what we install (other apps, launcher setup, etc.) that is impacting our performance I'm a huge lpro plus fan but was having weird lag issues with it on the rezound. I tried go launcher and it seems much smoother. lol. I do agree on the lpro widgets and would like to try it again but I'm still perplexed why we would see any lag with the horsepower on this device? Could it be the launchers are not optimized or the hd screen or sense running in the background? Just throwing out possibilities with zero knowledge or proof. lol.
I think I may just try lpro again to see if it was just a one-off situation since go launcher is working well. thanks.
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Honestly, I think you see lag for the same reason you see lag on practically every Android device other than the GS2. Android makes very little use of a device's GPU, and most Android devices have crappy GPU's anyway. It's ridiculous that Android is finally going to natively use the GPU for graphics processing (what a concept!) in it's 4th iteration.
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Hi people, I finished rooting my phone, I guess im rooted because I have an icon in apps called super user, i applied the lag fix, now what do I do next?
Man I guess ur in the same boat as quite a few of us. Sit back realx, wait for clockwork, wait for ROMS, and prepare to have fun when all of the previously mentioned items to start appearing and enjoy having the beat hardware available at this point.
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you chill.. till the next episode.
We're close. Hang tight.
Next big thing is the official Froyo update, I guess. This thing is already flying so fast, I can't wait to see how Froyo runs on it. I had installed KaosFroyo on my old Droid Eris, which made it actually functional again, but despite that ARMv6 CPU's (or was it ARMv5?) best effort while overclocked to 710MHz, along with the JIT compiler, it just could offer me the experience I was looking for.
Can't wait to see what people can do with the Fascinate, though at this level of performance, I will probably be less likely to install custom ROMS. Plus, the Fascinate ROM has some very nice bells and whistles, like the WiFi/BT/GPS/Airplane on/off buttons on the notification screen, which you don't get with a plain vanilla ROM. Now, if somebody comes out with a Gingerbread ROM, I just might be interested.
I've actually been quite disappointed with performance on this phone, with the exception of games. I'm coming from an Incredible which is dramatically snappier and generally stutter-free, despite the hardware not being as powerful. With the Fascinate I notice stuttering and lag every few screen changes, which is disappointing. I would say the lock screen stutters/lags 50% of the time, maybe more.
At this point, I'm blaming Samsung's software, so I'll try and wait for custom ROMs to resolve this.
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I've actually been quite disappointed with performance on this phone, with the exception of games. I'm coming from an Incredible which is dramatically snappier and generally stutter-free, despite the hardware not being as powerful. With the Fascinate I notice stuttering and lag every few screen changes, which is disappointing. I would say the lock screen stutters/lags 50% of the time, maybe more.
At this point, I'm blaming Samsung's software, so I'll try and wait for custom ROMs to resolve this.
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Have you tried switching to LauncherPro? That will give you a good speed boost overall. The lag fix should take care of the rest. I saw the same issues as you, which are all gone after these mods.
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Yes, I have been running Launcher Pro Plus from the outset. I am rooted and have applied the lag fix. The Incredible was still MUCH faster. Launcher Pro doesn't fix things like the notification bar or lock screen stuttering, or the soft keys not responding immediately after being pressed.
I am going to attempt to move Launcher Pro Plus into the system folder and remove TW-Launcher as one of the other members did to try and improve speed.
The lag fix actually made my phone run worse..installed it..and it ruins like a dream
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There is no need to move an app to system just to uninstall another one. I use ADW launcher and have uninstalled TW launcher. Keep in mind, when you do the uninstall you must have your other launcher set to default or bad things will happen. After the uninstall the phone will go into a FC fit. Simply reboot and all will be golden.
After removing TW launcher I haven't seen any lag, and I never applied the "lag fix".
Hope that helps
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Yeah I figured that was true, I just wanted to make Launcher Pro even more official by making it a SYSTEM app .
I'm going to give it a shot now. Here's to hoping I won't require an Odin restore of any kind...
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Hi people, I finished rooting my phone, I guess im rooted because I have an icon in apps called super user, i applied the lag fix, now what do I do next?
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REPLACE BING OR COURSE!
http://forum.androidcentral.com/fas...11-got-google-widget-works-now-bing-dead.html
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Yes, I have been running Launcher Pro Plus from the outset. I am rooted and have applied the lag fix. The Incredible was still MUCH faster. Launcher Pro doesn't fix things like the notification bar or lock screen stuttering, or the soft keys not responding immediately after being pressed.
I am going to attempt to move Launcher Pro Plus into the system folder and remove TW-Launcher as one of the other members did to try and improve speed.
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NOOO WAY!! The Incredible I had doesn't even compare to the speed I'm getting from my Fascinate! The Incredible I even had Froyo on it!! That thing was crap for me.. Lets not get on the topic of battery life...
The battery life on the Incredible was no good, I will agree with you on that. But, in terms of overall system smoothness (remember, NOT games or multimedia), the Fascinate (along with all of the other Galaxy S phones) doesn't play in the same league as the Incredible yet.
In addition to my personal encounters of sluggishness on 2 Fascinates, 1 Vibrant, 1 Captivate, and 1 Epic 4G, a few of the reviews I read mention this problem as well:
"More than once the phone locked up doing what we considered to be basic tasks, such as switching between apps or back to the homescreen. The Fascinate just seemed to stall out, often at the most inconvenient times, and we were left to simply wait until it sorted out whatever memory or processor issues it seemed to be having. Comparatively, a device like the Incredible rarely if ever stalled out on us, even during heavy use."
Engadget, September 7, 2010
"...That’s not to say Samsung has no room for improvement...we still observed a few of the periodic stalls that mar the overall user experience."
Slash Gear, September 7, 2010
"As much as I like the UI I did find some of the menu pops and screen flips to stutter a bit."
Geek, September 17, 2010
It's not like the phone is "slow", it just stutters and holds in places the Incredible never did, like the lock screen, or pulling down the notification bar, or when long pressing to get menus, even with the lag fix, TWLauncher removed, and no live wallpaper (which are tweaks I have done to ALL US flavors of this phone). Even flipping between home screens on the Incredible is noticeably faster than any Galaxy S when both phones have Launcher Pro installed. I think it's just a question of pickiness when it comes to the smoothness of animations. Again, I have noticed these issues on EVERY Galaxy S phone I have encountered, not a single, possibly defective, phone.
I really, really want this phone to live up to it's fancy hardware through development from the great people around here, which is why I will probably keep it as a sort of investment. Here's to hoping the community around it continues to grow!
My Incredible with Froyo does not compare to the Fascinate with Eclair (no lag fix, TW still present but running LauncherPro Plus).
It's not even close.
Battery life on the Fascinate is phenomenal compared to the Incredible. The only thing I miss on the Incredible is the support (duh, it's been out since April 29) and the optical trackpad (makes editing text much easier).
Is it possible to port the widgets that come with motoblur?
The contact widgets are pretty handy. I assume that the widgets are tied to the launcher (like our TWiz widgets), so I imagine the whole launcher would have to be ported. If that is the case, I've attached the launcher apk for anyone capable of determining these things.
If at all possible to port widgets without the Droid X launcher, that would be even better.
This is one of the most annoying launchers on android. Scrolling in between home screens disables the app tray button, and you either have to swipe up on the screen or wait a few seconds to open the app tray. The widgets on the other hand are okay. The droid X's UI was poorly designed and makes the phone feel bigger and clunkier than it really is.
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This is one of the most annoying launchers on android. Scrolling in between home screens disables the app tray button, and you either have to swipe up on the screen or wait a few seconds to open the app tray. The widgets on the other hand are okay. The droid X's UI was poorly designed and makes the phone feel bigger and clunkier than it really is.
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Agreed. The Blur UI also feels sluggish and clunky. It is probably the most hated custom andorid launcher out there.
OP. Unless your willing to pay a dev 100 bucks in advance, nobody is going to do this for u lol.
Touch Wiz is infinitely better. I would actually say TW is better than stock.
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Agreed. The Blur UI also feels sluggish and clunky. It is probably the most hated custom andorid launcher out there.
OP. Unless your willing to pay a dev 100 bucks in advance, nobody is going to do this for u lol.
Touch Wiz is infinitely better. I would actually say TW is better than stock.
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TW better than stock? Blasphemy!
I agree on all counts
TouchWiz is one of the best launchers. Launcher Pro is a close second. ADW/LP both don't have the same smoothness with all of the graphics at the highest level like TW does. They look awful compared to TW on default settings and choppy with it looking the same. I don't think you can get LP to display the same level of quality as ADW or TW.
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TouchWiz is one of the best launchers. Launcher Pro is a close second. ADW/LP both don't have the same smoothness with all of the graphics at the highest level like TW does. They look awful compared to TW on default settings and choppy with it looking the same.
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Agreed. I didn't care for the TW launcher in all of the demos i saw of the vibrant, but it really grew on my once i actually used it. It's fast, looks nice, and has smooth animations. Sorry OP if I sounded upset in my first response. I also have the droid X (for work) and think it's one of the biggest dissapointments out there. Moto nailed the build quality and screen size, but they stopped there. Terrible contrast, colors, poor UI, feels slow, 2D stutters, etc. It upset me to see the droidX voted more desirable than the vibrant on gizmodo today. People are morons. Yet it benches higher than the Vibrant because it has faster write speeds. Lol.
Moved to the Q&A sub-forum.
I understand that it was a development request, but we still want to keep the development sub-forum for threads which actually have development in them. If this gets anywhere, I will move it back.
As far as the launcher itself... I don't like it, either.
I haven't tried adw on this phone....mainly because I don't care about themes. But I use launcherpro plus mostly instead of touchwiz. There are a few things I like better about tw but lpp's dock is so much cooler. I would never consider motoblur on this phone but that's just me.
ha, well let me rephrase my request since everyone seems to hate the blur launcher.
I primarily want the droid x/motoblur widgets, but I assume they are attached to the launcher, so I requested the whole launcher to be ported.
If it is possible to port the widgets without the launcher, then that would be better. OP edited.
I wonder if the launcher requires the moto framework. If so, then it would require a whole ROM port, unfortunately. Let's hope not.
Hi, first of all I love my SGS2, this is my 3rd android phone and I couldn't be happier. This phone is great. BUT... There's one thing that's bugging me. Every rom and kernel I've tried have the same problem. Lag. I'm NOT talking in games or the loading of applications, because this phone FLIES through those tasks. It's small areas where there shouldn't be the smallest amount of lag i.e. scrolling and the homescreen. I hope someone could shed some light on this for me. Everyone talks about how great this phone is and how there's absolutely no lag. Well have you used an iphone. Their like butter. We've got a phone that ****s power and they've got weak hardware in comparison. What gives?
Thanks for reading...
ive noticed if i have the phone plugged into a different charger, ( non oem samsung) there is alot of lag on the phone, its almost impossible to type cause its so annoying! lol its weird cause i thought it was the rom and tried flashing a few roms and it was all the same! found out it was because i was using a htc charger instead of the samsung one. weird cause its the same charging specs and a micro sd cable is all the same!!
Yea I've heard of that. It's indeed weird. I think there is something about it in the manual as well if I remember correctly (yes I read the manual for once!). Any ideas on the home screen/scroll lag?
I'm only on 2.3.3 ROM stock, and it's been great so I don't find the need to flash to other custom ROMS yet
The Touchwiz homescreen for me is buttery smooth. I mean, I've loaded alot of widgets on the thing and it's still smooth
ADW Launcher Ex homescreen scrolling is laggy for me though. No idea why, as the rest of the functions fly (ie app drawer scrolling, app opening, etc)
i also feel there's a tiny lag sometimes... don't know why... btw,i'm using go launcher
I'm also on stock 2.3.3 now and I think I'm going to stay with stocks for a while. I've used different launchers including ADW Launcher Ex and Go launcher Ex but they all have lag at some area. @rantzzz have you used an iphone before? how would you compare the homescreen to our S2. @sept20 can you please look under the battery and see where your phone was made? I.e. mine was made in korea. Thank-you.
Comparing the iPhone homescreen scroll and the Touchwiz 4.0 scroll on SGS2, the iPhone is much much smoother
But the stock Touch wiz 4.0 isn't a slouch also. There is a noticeable fraction of a lag when you swipe, but nothing too big
Thanks for confirming rantzzz. Yeah that fraction of lag when you swype is what I'm talking about. I also experience something similar in my apps drawer. I just can't figure out why Samsung couldn't have optimized something so small and argumentatively most important since it's the portal to everything you do on your phone! Maybe they will fix this in a future update or possibly in ICS.
Well i noticed if i use the 2x4 weather widget i get lag scrolling, shrinking it down and i lost the lag. I dunno if this will help you guys but worth a pop.
I get the lag no matter what, 100 widgets or no widgets. It would be interesting to hear if it helps anybody else though.
OP, Can you give us a full list of all software installed on your device, because I've NEVER seen lag on my phone. I've used TouchWiz, Launcher Pro and have finally settled on Go Launcher, and this phone makes the iPhone 4 looks slow and tedious, so I can only suggest that you have some software that is causing problems.
Edit: Okay, it doesn't make the iPhone 4 look slow. But it is clearly faster and smoother.
A list of software is pointless because I'm experiencing the problem at absolute stock. Whether it is my stock vodafone rom or a stock custom rom. If you wouldn't mind johncmolyneux could you please look under your battery and see where your phone was made? Also what rom and kernel you are using? Thank-you
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Comparing the iPhone homescreen scroll and the Touchwiz 4.0 scroll on SGS2, the iPhone is much much smoother
But the stock Touch wiz 4.0 isn't a slouch also. There is a noticeable fraction of a lag when you swipe, but nothing too big
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I have to disagree here, my mate has an iPhone4 and compared to my GS2 it's definitelty not as smooth,my GS2 is much faster too and the display whilst good on both phones is definitely better on mine even my mate (relucantly) admitted that.
Scrollable wallpapers and live wallpapers kill the smoothness. Have a stationary wallpaper that doesn't scroll as you swipe and you'll see how smooth this baby is.
iPhone's launcher seems smoother because it doesn't let you install any wallpaper that'll slow down the homescreen.
I believe it is smooth. My friend (Iphone 4) user actually used my phone and he said that it was smoother and faster than his Ip4. But then again, actually at that time I just purchased it like an hour before. So it was really stock brand new and I have not actually installed anything yet.
I think the word 'lag' is misleading. Lag would actually imply that when you swipe the screen that it takes a moment to react. Do you really have that problem? I do not. The only time I could say I have with lag is the home button reaction speed - which isn't lag, it's because of the voice activation feature.
HOWEVER ...
What I would say is that slowly swiping between screens is far from buttery smooth - I would describe it as slightly juddery. If you swipe fast you barely notice, and if you scroll through the dots it's beautifuly smooth and impressive! BTW I've had 3 different firmwares and casual screen swiping has been equally unsmooth on all..
My question to all is... If you casually/slowly swipe between screens, do you find the animation smooth or a little juddery?
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ok, some lag is there, but yesterday when i tried miui, and there was absolutely no lag...
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OP, Can you give us a full list of all software installed on your device, because I've NEVER seen lag on my phone. I've used TouchWiz, Launcher Pro and have finally settled on Go Launcher, and this phone makes the iPhone 4 looks slow and tedious, so I can only suggest that you have some software that is causing problems.
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Mine was made in Korea and I'm using stock ROM (XWKE2) that has been rooted.
I've been so happy with stock ROM that I'm not seeing any need to put anything custom on it.
Hope you find the cause of your problem mate, because your phone is definitely not living up to its possibilities! Any chance of a video of your lag?
Im using launcherpro and i dont feel any lag while scrolling in the homescreens :S
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Im using launcherpro and i dont feel any lag while scrolling in the homescreens :S
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Launcher pro reminds me of one que I had- when i was using villain rom 1.4 lite, the launcher pro that came preinstalled didn't have any lag, but when I installed launcher pro on villain rom 1.4 (full version), i felt laggy app browser... why is it so? its also true with adw and go launcher... only thing changed now is that villain rom 1.4 days are gone with release of villain rom 2.0...
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Does this sort out the huge font in the notifications? If not, can you change that please?
this is just the a task bar theme for now will do more tonight, just wanted to release the taskbar theme since there were a few threads on it will do all the icons and have it done in a few days, also will do the notifications at some point in my bust week.
so far loving this theme, any chance that you will also change the clock and the settings page to look like stock honeycomb too?
Woohoo! Now I can update. I can't stand the TouchWiz theme, looks like I'm going backwards in technology.
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Woohoo! Now I can update. I can't stand the TouchWiz theme, looks like I'm going backwards in technology.
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Be careful as i dont believe the official tw upgrade is supported yet by this mod.
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so far loving this theme, any chance that you will also change the clock and the settings page to look like stock honeycomb too?
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The bar icons, the clock, and the settings page are probably the only things holding me back from sticking with the TW ROM.... I put Calkulin's deodex'd version a few days ago and was back to the vanilla 3.1 in a matter of 10 minutes! It really looks horrible and needs to be reverted!
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The bar icons, the clock, and the settings page are probably the only things holding me back from sticking with the TW ROM.... I put Calkulin's deodex'd version a few days ago and was back to the vanilla 3.1 in a matter of 10 minutes! It really looks horrible and needs to be reverted!
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So you're willing to give up all the speed and functionality improvements that touchwiz provides because of some icons and colors?
WTF?
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So you're willing to give up all the speed and functionality improvements that touchwiz provides because of some icons and colors?
WTF?
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I think it's humorous that people think there were so many improvements from ADDING stuff to the vanilla 3.1 that shipped with the 10.1.... show me 3 people who have had better Quadrant scores after adding a new UI, because I really didn't see it for the 10 minutes I had it on my Tab before going right back to my backed up stock ROM.
And yes, if I overclock my stock 3.1, why WOULDN'T I want to keep it over this silly UI upgrade???
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So you're willing to give up all the speed and functionality improvements that touchwiz provides because of some icons and colors?
WTF?
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I don't have a ton of apps on my tab, but I get better performance with stock Android than the TW update.
The only improvement I see is the browser. I can use dolphin to fix that, and the new look is very unappealing to me. I also get better home screen performance on standard honeycomb.
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I think it's humorous that people think there were so many improvements from ADDING stuff to the vanilla 3.1 that shipped with the 10.1.... show me 3 people who have had better Quadrant scores after adding a new UI, because I really didn't see it for the 10 minutes I had it on my Tab before going right back to my backed up stock ROM.
And yes, if I overclock my stock 3.1, why WOULDN'T I want to keep it over this silly UI upgrade???
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1. Stock quadrant scores are around 1500. Touchwiz quadrant scores are 2300.
2. With touchwiz, the galaxy tab 10.1 is now the only honeycomb tablet with no keyboard lag in the browser. Samsung fixed something in the webkit engine or something. Stock honeycomb on the galaxy tab 10.1 and every other tab in existence has the lag.
3. The samsung Widgets are fantastic.
The killer feature for me was fixing the browser lag. I can now finally type on sites like XDA without wanting to break my tab in half.
But the point at my previous post was that I was shocked that people who remove touchwiz because they dididnt like some icons and colors. This is a computer, not a fashion accessory. Did you buy a tablet to do stuff with it, or for it to look pretty?
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1. Stock quadrant scores are around 1500. Touchwiz quadrant scores are 2300.
2. With touchwiz, the galaxy tab 10.1 is now the only honeycomb tablet with no keyboard lag in the browser. Samsung fixed something in the webkit engine or something. Stock honeycomb on the galaxy tab 10.1 and every other tab in existence has the lag.
3. The samsung Widgets are fantastic.
The killer feature for me was fixing the browser lag. I can now finally type on sites like XDA without wanting to break my tab in half.
But the point at my previous post was that I was shocked that people who remove touchwiz because they dididnt like some icons and colors. This is a computer, not a fashion accessory. Did you buy a tablet to do stuff with it, or for it to look pretty?
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This is ridiculous, but since I'm bored, I'll play along.......
Prove it - saying Quadrant scores are X doesn't mean anything to me. I said that in the reply, but you just told me what you thought they were. I ran Quadrant on mine stock and it did 22XX, so I don't know where you're getting this 1500 score..... I got that with a deodex'd and OC'd Captivate, a single core PHONE.....
Two words (that have already been said above) - DOLPHIN BROSWER.... I don't use Dolphin because I really don't see any lag that everyone else is talking about. I have a 4GHz OC'd Quad Core PC, so it isn't like I don't know what a fast electronic device is.....
Widgets..... seriously? so THAT'S what's important on this list? You're talking about comparing this to a fashion accessory (which I agree it's not), and you're talking about widgets??? Really? This is NOT a computer, btw.... my Dell Inspiron Duo tablet IS a computer. A 10.1" touchscreen computer running dual boot Windows 7 and Android 2.2. THIS, however, is something that should work quickly, which I feel it really does already, and look attractive. If you didn't want something that looks attractive, you should have saved your money and bought a Transformer - cheaper looking screen, thicker and heavier device, and you can OC that thing and have all the widgets you like without having to worry about people "complaining" on here about this being a "fashion accessory"
And look at this, I'm not the only one who thinks so:
This update brought some new widgets called Live Panels along for the ride, and honestly, what can I say about them? They're widgets. They have the same look and feel of the other features in TouchWiz UX, but using them is purely optional. I opted to [stay] with the widgets that I was using prior to the update, as I found Live Panels to be much too large for my taste.
From an aesthetic aspect, one of the most drastic changes that came with this update is the Settings menu. It shed its sleek black-and-blue Honeycomb look for a coat of white and some new cartoon-y looking icons. Much like the updated Calendar and Email apps, it's not bad, just different.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...10-1-wi-fi-is-it-better-than-stock-honeycomb/
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They also say all the same things you were saying about the speed improvements and what not, but I'm not interested in making something function faster than it already is while losing the form - you're a car guy, it sounds like, so what if you junked up your Evo X while making it faster? You've already got a fast car, so why not making it look cheezy AND fast at the same time? Yeah, I wouldn't do that with either of my performance vehicles, I don't know many that would......
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This is ridiculous, but since I'm bored, I'll play along.......
Prove it - saying Quadrant scores are X doesn't mean anything to me. I said that in the reply, but you just told me what you thought they were. I ran Quadrant on mine stock and it did 22XX, so I don't know where you're getting this 1500 score..... I got that with a deodex'd and OC'd Captivate, a single core PHONE.....
Two words (that have already been said above) - DOLPHIN BROSWER.... I don't use Dolphin because I really don't see any lag that everyone else is talking about. I have a 4GHz OC'd Quad Core PC, so it isn't like I don't know what a fast electronic device is.....
Widgets..... seriously? so THAT'S what's important on this list? You're talking about comparing this to a fashion accessory (which I agree it's not), and you're talking about widgets??? Really? This is NOT a computer, btw.... my Dell Inspiron Duo tablet IS a computer. A 10.1" touchscreen computer running dual boot Windows 7 and Android 2.2. THIS, however, is something that should work quickly, which I feel it really does already, and look attractive. If you didn't want something that looks attractive, you should have saved your money and bought a Transformer - cheaper looking screen, thicker and heavier device, and you can OC that thing and have all the widgets you like without having to worry about people "complaining" on here about this being a "fashion accessory"
And look at this, I'm not the only one who thinks so:
They also say all the same things you were saying about the speed improvements and what not, but I'm not interested in making something function faster than it already is while losing the form - you're a car guy, it sounds like, so what if you junked up your Evo X while making it faster? You've already got a fast car, so why not making it look cheezy AND fast at the same time? Yeah, I wouldn't do that with either of my performance vehicles, I don't know many that would......
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1) The speed improvement on touchwiz is undeniable... I'm sorry, but Touchwiz is WAY faster and a hell of a lot less buggy. On stock 3.1 (again, right out of the box) I had my browser crash no less than 20 times during around and hour of browsing. It also soft booted 3 times during this period. None of this has happened on Touchwiz. I did not run any quadrant tests, but immediately after installing touchwiz I noticed the speed improvement. No scrolling/transition lag, etc.
2) Dolphin for Tab did not fix the typing lag on 3.1 - Right out of the box I installed it any tried it out. It lags as bad as the stock browser.
3) Why do you care if he like the widgets? If he loves the widgets, that is reason enough to go with Touchwiz
Not it may seem like I am defending Touchwiz. In fact, overall, I really dislike the changes. What I am saying is, touchwiz is, in fact, faster than stock honeycomb. However, the redesign is absolutely terrible. Honeycomb went from modern and sophisticated, to blocky and cartoonish. I would absolutely love the speed and bug improvements without the new UI. As much as I want to go back to stock 3.1, the bugs are forcing me to stay with touchwiz.
EDIT Just ran some benchmarks:
Stock 3.1 Honeycomb: 1448
3.1 Honeycomb Touchwiz: 2267
Like I said, Touchwiz is faster
+1 to better quadrant scores with TW. Stock was in 1500s, TW 2200s and TW plus pershoot's kernel hit 2800!
But seriously,can we get back to the thread title: stock theme for TW. Many including myself would find TW rom + stock theme the ideal for the moment.
I mean, with roms and themes and all, it is for each his own, and this thread is about stock theme for tw.
I have noticed some people comment that they don't like Sense, but they don't say why. It seems fine to me. Can anyone tell me the downside?
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It's a resource hog, plain and simple. The look and feel isn't bad, better than some of the other overlays for sure, but I much prefer stock Google for look and feel too.
With 3.6 and earlier, I didn't really care too much about Sense, but over time I started to really appreciate how they included everything I need instead of only a few things that don't work so well. I really don't like AOSP widgets, for example.
Then when Sense 4 came around, I knew I loved Sense after all. It's so polished and usable.
Maybe if I used widgets, I'd like Sense better. The only widget I run regularly is weather.
One of the things I find so invaluable about Sense is the calendar widgets. They are by far the best I've ever used on Android, and I've yet to find a Google Play app that provides widgets on the same level.
The music app on Sense is also really decent already and integrates perfectly with the lock screen.
Oh, and Peep is pretty decent as well. The Twitter app it comes with is rather nice.
I don't like sense. There's too many visual elements that do t look right, even in sense 4. If I took the time to theme it just the way i like it, I might be able to enjoy it. But AOSP is so much smoother and faster.
The only thing I love about sense is that clock widget. I can never get the clones to work properly with my set up D:
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I don't like sense. There's too many visual elements that do t look right, even in sense 4. If I took the time to theme it just the way i like it, I might be able to enjoy it. But AOSP is so much smoother and faster.
The only thing I love about sense is that clock widget. I can never get the clones to work properly with my set up D:
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The only problem is that weird in call voice bug Nd the camera sucks on aosp
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It's cool but I just get bored with it. It feels simple.
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The only problem is that weird in call voice bug Nd the camera sucks on aosp
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I've never used AOSP on the Rezound (I don't even have my Rez anymore) so I don't know what that's like
I love sense personally. And since 4, sense 4.1, and sense 4.5 all have lots to like about them.
I like AOSP too, but I get bored with it after a little while and miss sense.
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No. Boo on Sense.
I like sense, but its all I've used since my eris, inc1 and inc2. My wife has moto and I hate the look of it. I have flashed aosp roms before. Aosp is faster and smoother, but I don't like having to spend all the time to set up the look of my phone and the widgets aren't that greatand stock camera leaves a lot to be desired. Sense widgets are really useful and polished and the camera is one of the best. And it looks good already so I don't have to download a lot of themes and widgets from the market if I don't want to. I read an article that said sense takes away from the enginuity or innovation of android. But most android updates have included things that sense already incorporated previously. I had multi-touch pinch zoom and flash on donut, android added it in eclair. Sense had pinch to show all your homescreens in froyo but stock android didn't add it until gingerbread. But as mentioned before, it is a resource hog and you will get the most from your hardware with aosp. So its a give and take and really up to the user, but I prefer it.
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The sense 4 launcher is great. And that is it.
Loved the speed and simplicity of AOSP but the camera absolutely blows when compared to Sense.
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Loved the speed and simplicity of AOSP but the camera absolutely blows when compared to Sense.
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This.
webleeper said:
Loved the speed and simplicity of AOSP but the camera absolutely blows when compared to Sense.
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Totally agree. I never realized how ****ty the stock camera was until I started comparing my images from before AOSP and after switching to AOSP. Now that I am stuck with this ****ty AOSP camera, I am starting to realize why so damn many people use that stupid Instagram app!
I like some of the integrations that Sense has. It's gotten better, but it's still a bit sluggish to me. I've flopped back and forth between AOSP and Sense ROMs.
I liked Skyraider back on my thunderbolt, but that was 2.1. I liked the look of 4.0 but didn't really enjoy the feeling til 4.1. I switch between aosp and sense basically every other day. Lol.
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Of ALL the mobile operating systems out there, plain old vanilla Android is far and away the ugliest, most unrefined SOB in the group. It NEEDS something to dress it up. I actually wish Sense would go further. Like how about a real dictionary? BlackBerry and Apple put Android to shame in that department. And why do Android stock widgets have to be so unsightly and feature poor? Android's stock camera app has pretty much sucked on just about every device I've ever flashed it on, too. I'm perfectly happy to sacrifice speed for functionality if all the speed is doing is making another ugly, unrefined app, widget, or screen appear before me quicker. I've never handed a phone to someone after flashing AOSP on it and have them say "Hot damn, that ugly crap is FAST!", but I have handed phones to people with tight custom ROMs and fast kernels and had them say "Wow... This is the smoothest (fill in the blank) I've ever seen!"
aosp is ugly and boring. seems very utilitarian. I love how my rezound looks, but performance wise, I like the speed of aosp. I'm a certified sense lover, especially after having the nexus and the s3, and I can't wait for the dlx running the newest version.
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