[Q] wifi calling vs grooveip - HTC Amaze 4G

whats the difference? seem to me pretty much the same, why everybody insists on having wifi calling in their amaze when they can just install grooveip?

WiFi calling allows incoming calls and SMS to your T-Mobile number while on WiFi. It's also better integrated, so outgoing calls and messaging is easier, and it originates from your T-Mobile number. If you don't have number equity and don't mind the clumsy interface, Groove IP should work just as well for you.
The older phones that had true UMA could also handoff the call between WiFi and cell tower, but the Android WiFi calling has so far not had that ability.

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[Q] SIP Calling (Native)

I'm a little confused on SIP setup, mainly regarding the backend services (trunk / pbx ??). Anyone care to lay it out for a noob and possibly somewhere i can look at pricing for a single number w/ outbound calling abilities?
Is there a way to configure my current Sprint number to make free calls over WIFI or simply where cell coverage does not exist but a WIFI connection does?
Thanks in advance....
Bumping for knowledge.... Does anyone in here know about SIP setup?
No, you can not. You'd need to forward your sprint calls to another number, or do the Sprint Google Voice integration then add another SIP phone number to google voice to ring at the same time.
that way when someone calls your sprint number, it's integrated with google voice, and rings your separate VOIP number as well..
Catch is, you'll have to pay for a voip/sip account somewhere that gives you a number to forward to.

Stable VOIP Solution for calls over 3G?

I have a Google Voice number local to my area code that forward to my pbxes.org account, which in turn takes the call and sends it to my phone via the SipDroid app. I can make incoming/outgoing calls all day long for free, but have a problem with call quality.
I have linked two voicemail files. I placed a call from SipDroid out to the same number in both cases, but one was done over WiFi and the other over 3G (2-3 bars, average signal). The WiFi one is acceptable, but the 3G one is not. Listen for yourself (For the message, I read one of the opening paragraphs from the US Declaration of Independence, same on both so you can compare accurately.)
Setup: Google Voice number -> pbxes.org -> SipDroid app
Wifi VOIP Voicemail: http://www.corusa.com/public/voip-wifi.wav
3G VOIP Voicemail: http://www.corusa.com/public/voip-3g.wav
Now, with that said you need to understand my intent. I am wanting to use my Google Voice number for work, as my off-hours support phone, so I do not accrue charges on my personal cell plan (not covered by employer, and they do not provide work mobile phones). So, since I am usually on the go, I will not be connected to WiFi, thus I need a reliable VOIP option that will get acceptable call quality over 3G. There are multiple options out there, and I do not have a problem with a monthly fee, but they all come with caveats. For example, if I got an "Online Number" from Skype, and just forwarded my Google Voice number to that, it would work through the Skype app, no SIP app needed; however, the Skype voicemail cannot be disabled, so I can no longer use the Google Voice app to easily see my support calls/messages from my home screen. I have use the Skype app (or website) to listen to voicemails. Skype would solve my quality problem (based on reviews of other users that use it over 3G), but introduce the new voicemail issue. The setup I have now (GV->pbxes->SipDroid) allows me to use the GV voicemail, but quality is lacking...catch 22. Is there a better more reliable solution out there for VOIP on Android? I am fine with paying
There's also the Google Callback app, that I have been trying to avoid at all costs, since it is kind of hokey, and I tried the GrooVe IP app, but it has a lot of echo for the person I am calling, and no setting change could fix it.
p.s. - I will be updating my phone from the DroidX (3G only) to the Bionic (4G). If you think that will make a difference, and make all my concerns moot, then just say so, and that's what I'll do
Thanks!!
Since you mentioned GrooVe IP, figured I'd respond. Did you try the echo canceler setting in the GrooVe IP audio/echo settings? Enabling that should get rid of echo heard by the person you're talking to. And/Or reducing the mic gain & speaker volume.
snrb Labs said:
Since you mentioned GrooVe IP, figured I'd respond. Did you try the echo canceler setting in the GrooVe IP audio/echo settings? Enabling that should get rid of echo heard by the person you're talking to. And/Or reducing the mic gain & speaker volume.
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Already tried that, and every option in between, including the manual millisecond settings.
Viber has amazing quality...not sure if you can use it over 3g or 4g though.
lowandbehold said:
Viber has amazing quality...not sure if you can use it over 3g or 4g though.
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Viber is not a true VOIP solution, as you can only call other people using the Viber app. Here's an excerpt from the Viber FAQ...
Q: Can I call people who don't have Viber?
A: Yes, if the person you're calling doesn't have Viber, the call will be placed like *regular call, but don't forget to invite your friends to Viber so your next call is free . *Regular calls are calls placed through your cell phone service provider, using your cell phone rate plan.
That's pointless...I need to call any phone number (land line, mobile, cell, work, etc) in the USA from my Google voice number using only a 3G/4G connection. I really need to find that one or two providers that use a low enough bitrate for voice that can work fine on 3G without being echoey or choppy (this is why I posted the 3G sample voice-mail above). I would just install the Google Voice callback app, but I do not have a 'Friends & Family' option for my cell plan to add my GV number to, which is essential for that to be feasible.
Is this really not something a lot of people have dealt with? I know I am not the first person in the world who has tried to call via VOIP over 3G - the technology has been around forever. Anyway, still need an answer if anyone has one
crobs808 said:
Viber is not a true VOIP solution, as you can only call other people using the Viber app. Here's an excerpt from the Viber FAQ...
Q: Can I call people who don't have Viber?
A: Yes, if the person you're calling doesn't have Viber, the call will be placed like *regular call, but don't forget to invite your friends to Viber so your next call is free . *Regular calls are calls placed through your cell phone service provider, using your cell phone rate plan.
That's pointless...I need to call any phone number (land line, mobile, cell, work, etc) in the USA from my Google voice number using only a 3G/4G connection. I really need to find that one or two providers that use a low enough bitrate for voice that can work fine on 3G without being echoey or choppy (this is why I posted the 3G sample voice-mail above). I would just install the Google Voice callback app, but I do not have a 'Friends & Family' option for my cell plan to add my GV number to, which is essential for that to be feasible.
Is this really not something a lot of people have dealt with? I know I am not the first person in the world who has tried to call via VOIP over 3G - the technology has been around forever. Anyway, still need an answer if anyone has one
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I'm also an early adapter of GV voip service.
I'm using Dell streak 7 (dual core 512 mb ram, horrible software config, honeycomb 3.2)
I manage to have stable voip quality with clear portable 4g hotspot connected through wifi. Unlimited calls and data, pretty cool. However, talking through a bluetooth device and 3GHSPA+ have been horrible. My friends keep complaining about bad call quality until I find this issues. If calling through wifi (I use groove ip) with internal mic and speaker, everything is fine. I guess it's either due to bad hardware coding of the streak 7 or due to the narrow bandwith of the bluetooth 2.1 or 3G. I'm not familiar with the tech details of streak 7.
I'm gonna try the new nexus 7 and sony xperia z ultra to see if any issues above can be solved.

Making Voice Calling While Roaming

Does a PRL affect this option? When I'm roaming, I can't make calls, but receive them fine.
Figured this out. If you can't make any voice calls while roaming, a simple solution would be to just turn off Mobile Network. You'll lose 3G connectivity, but gain the ability to make voice calls.

google voice voip with sprint integration?

ok so i tied my number to google voice because my phone doesn't get signal in 90% of my workplace (it has wifi though) and the cell signal by my house is pretty low so all calls sound like crap. so what i was hoping to do was be able to place calls and texts from my sprint number through google voice. if i go into the settings of the google voice app i set it so the google voice app gives me notifications when i receive texts and i am able to use it to text and receive texts as long as i have a data connection (wifi most of the time) now the problem with this is that if i don't have a cell signal and am connected to only wifi, calls dont come through at all like i would expect them to..
before i did the integration i was able to place calls over wifi but it would display my google voice number to the people i was calling but now that i did the integration i cant make or receive calls over wifi? if anyone knows how to enable that it would help a lot, if it can even be done that is...
on a side note, i experimented with it using my house phone and noticed that if i have no signal and am only on the wifi, the people who are calling me (in this case me calling my cell phone from my house) still hear a ringing tone and after about 30 seconds get my voicemail. so what the heck. you would think if its ringing that i would get calls over the wifi but apparently not...?
Install GrooveIP....works perfect.
lostsoul77 said:
Install GrooveIP....works perfect.
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for the longest time i have known about that app but thought it was only necessary on phones that weren't activated on any carriers.. *facepalm* i just installed it and it worked perfect! thanks a lot man! im so happy right now hahaha
*thanked*

Question Issue with voice calls being incomprehensible when WiFi calling and Verzion 5G/LTE are both active on Verzion P6

I'm having issues with voice calls on my Verizon Pixel 6. I live in a wooded area with not great 5G/LTE reception and rely heavily on WiFi calling as such. I had no issues with my P4xl. After upgrading to the P6, I am having constant issues when I receive or make a voice call to a friend or family member.
Their voice becomes echoed and incomprehensible. Sounds like you are talking to a robot.
The only workaround I've found so far is to disable the WiFi manually in the settings while you are on a call. Then I am on the network (either 5G or LTE) with not great reception - one bar.
I have a feeling it is an issue between the WiFi calling hand off and the network. I've tried adjusting the setting in the developer options turning off Mobile Data Always Active. No luck.
Also changed my WiFi preferences to Use Device MAC and that did not help either.
I'm concerned because if someone else needed to use my phone in an emergency, they would run the risk of not being able to make a clear and successful call.
Any help appreciated!
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