Does this happen to YOU? - Motorola Photon 4G

Hey guys, it's deedscreen. The creator of the MoPho XDA Fan Group, facebook, Twitter, and Google+ page, and you may also know me as the one with the problems with the Photon who constantly nags, and rants with issues.
I just want to know if anyone has these issues too.
I have to deal with the phone being slow, constantly freezing, and the sleep of death, even after the latest update.
For the longest, I couldn't update the Photon, I found a thread on how to fix it by 'SBFing. So, I SBF'd it, it worked fine, updated to the latest software.
It was working fine, now I am back to the same issues, plus I cannot install any applications, nor update any applications. It will just say "INSTALLING" for literally hours, and never installs.
I have had the worst luck with this phone, I am going to 'SBF it back to stock, because a factory reset will not get rid of the battery icon modification.
I'm gonna return it to Sprint for a new one. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS PHONE!!! Why is it only me with this bad luck? It feels like no one else has these issues on the forums, I am always the one posting with these problems, myself alone! This phone is bad luck for me. I love it, when it works.
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PLEASE NOTE:
If you have a problem with this thread, keep your trap shut. I will have this thread closed if anyone insults me again, like the last time I had major issues. I am just experiencing bad luck. I need to know if anyone has similar issues. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Are you having similar issues?

Have u tried a completely stick photon...not modded and none of ur market Apps installed? ?
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deedscreen said:
I'm gonna return it to Sprint for a new one. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS PHONE!!! Why is it only me with this bad luck? It feels like no one else has these issues on the forums, I am always the one posting with these problems, myself alone! This phone is bad luck for me. I love it, when it works.
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Dude, you are definitely NOT alone. I love this phone too when it is working properly. These are my two main issue:
Random Reboots
Keyboard locks up - When this happens, the phone will not dial out. (Reboot required)
* This is my 2nd MoPho and I had the same issues with my first one. *

Factory defects with hardware do happen. Replace if you can.
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The reason why I am not quoting you guys, is because misleads users to think that I already have enough replies, so here we go.
@lucidvtec - I have tried stock options, that doesn't work always, not having any applications from the market installed is like asking me to jump off a bridge.
@sjamie - I do get random reboots ocassionally, but my keyboard, (no matter which one I use), constantly locks up. I get the "Sleep of Death" all of the time, and Constant Freezing. Please vote at the page here, on the forums to poll your results for issues with the Motorola Photon 4G MB855.
@Rapidlayout - You are correct.
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@lucidvtec, @sjamie, @ Rapidlayout: I am on my fifth Photon.

Mine was the same. Bricked it a few weeks ago and got this new one. Its perfect. There must be a bad batch of them, get it replaced bc no software is gonna fix it.
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I just completed a MSL reset, a full wipe, and flashed the latest 198_7 sbf. Let's see if this resolves my rebooting and keyboard problems. If not, I'll try out one of joker's roms. If that still doesn't work, I'll go in for Photon #3.
@deedscreen: I'm sorry to hear you are on your 5th Photon. That is not encouraging to me.

DWake014 said:
Mine was the same. Bricked it a few weeks ago and got this new one. Its perfect. There must be a bad batch of them, get it replaced bc no software is gonna fix it.
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All of the same issues as myself? Now when you replaced it, did you have a problem upgrading to the latest software with the replacement?

sjamie said:
I just completed a MSL reset, a full wipe, and flashed the latest 198_7 sbf. Let's see if this resolves my rebooting and keyboard problems. If not, I'll try out one of joker's roms. If that still doesn't work, I'll go in for Photon #3.
@deedscreen: I'm sorry to hear you are on your 5th Photon. That is not encouraging to me.
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Just to let you know ahead of time, the Full Wipe, MSL Reset, and latest 198_7 sbf, will appear to work, it will work perfectly fine for about a month and a half, like mine, and you will have the same issues all over again.
Just to let you know.
I'm about to go to the Sprint Customer Advantage Repair Center Store, for my 6th Motorola Photon 4G device. Motorola has supposedly fixed the problem. WE SHALL SEE.
I just have to do an SBF before I go to the Store. I did a battery modification and I want it reset to stock values.

Sorry to hear. It sucks to hear of others having such problems with the Photon. Myself and others have been lucky to just have the "normal" issues all smartphones have in common.
If I was in your shoes, each time I got a new phone it would be run stock for at least a week or two with no apps whatsoever installed (I know, I know...what is the point right?) just to see if the issues exist straight out of the box.
I hate to say it but I would have probably swapped the phone a few times and then moved to something else. At some point it just isn't worth it anymore.
Wonder if it is some type of voltage issue. Have you talked to Motorola about it and if so, what has been said?

deedscreen said:
Just to let you know ahead of time, the Full Wipe, MSL Reset, and latest 198_7 sbf, will appear to work, it will work perfectly fine for about a month and a half, like mine, and you will have the same issues all over again.
Just to let you know.
I'm about to go to the Sprint Customer Advantage Repair Center Store, for my 6th Motorola Photon 4G device. Motorola has supposedly fixed the problem. WE SHALL SEE.
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Okay... that's really not encouraging!
However, I've never gone a full month with no problems so at least that would be progress for me!
Please let us know what happens with your 6th phone. Fortunately, I've never had a problem flashing SBFs. It will be interesting to see if you have that problem with your 6th phone.

CCallahan said:
Sorry to hear. It sucks to hear of others having such problems with the Photon. Myself and others have been lucky to just have the "normal" issues all smartphones have in common.
If I was in your shoes, each time I got a new phone it would be run stock for at least a week or two with no apps whatsoever installed (I know, I know...what is the point right?) just to see if the issues exist straight out of the box.
I hate to say it but I would have probably swapped the phone a few times and then moved to something else. At some point it just isn't worth it anymore.
Wonder if it is some type of voltage issue. Have you talked to Motorola about it and if so, what has been said?
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I am devoted to the Photon, I love it's features, style, (MAINLY, I've puchased a bunch of accessories, and Sprint said that I can only get the HTC EVO Design 4G, or the Optimus, they are supposed to allow me to get a phone that is of equivalent specifications which is the Epic Touch SII Galaxy, which Sprint refused to give me.
Motorola says "We have never heard of anything like this, what are you talking about? This cannot be true!"
Those reps are quite frankly put, "stupid" in regards to the Photon and its technical difficulties. (Sorry if I offended any reps on the site.)
Sprint is trying to do the old "bait and switch on me"
I am willing to pay up to $100 price in differance, but I have put too much effort in the Photon and the Photon Forums here at XDA. After all, I am the creator of the Photon Fan Club Group here at XDA, (if you are not a member, look at my signature and join below.), I have created the Twitter, Google+ and facebook pages for this phone.
You know what I'm saying?
(By the way, I just SBF'd my phone without taking my microSD card out, and the SIM card, and I wanted to move all of my data before I sbf'd it. darn it. hope my sd card didn't get erased, I will be mad with myself if I did.)

well I just bought my photon 20 days ago from a guy on craigslist and yes it was brand new, never activated everything sealed for 250.
And so far the only thing I wasn't able to do was the update which a lot of people couldn't get their phones to update but I used the 198_7 SBF and that was it.
So far I only had 2 reboots (and that was when I was messing around with root explorer replacing some apks in the system folder)
But besides that I haven't had any problems that aren't normal on any android phone.

I read a few posts in other forums about bad batteries causing some of the problems we are facing. Therefore, I called Motorola and they are sending me a new battery for FREE! I pray this fixes everything. (fingers crossed)

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I read a few posts in other forums about bad batteries causing some of the problems we are facing. Therefore, I called Motorola and they are sending me a new battery for FREE! I pray this fixes everything. (fingers crossed)
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Read the same thing. Motorola sent me a brand new battery, for free, but that did not fix the problem for me.

deedscreen said:
All of the same issues as myself? Now when you replaced it, did you have a problem upgrading to the latest software with the replacement?
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New one came with 198_6 so I had no reason to update
Edit: yes mine was plagued with all the same issues
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deedscreen said:
Read the same thing. Motorola sent me a brand new battery, for free, but that did not fix the problem for me.
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Damn, man! You are shattering all of my dreams today! jk

sjamie said:
Damn, man! You are shattering all of my dreams today! jk
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I understand that I am literally shattering your dreams, (no need for saying joking).
It is actually true.
I am sorry about that.
EDIT: On the bright side you will have an extra battery! See now I made one dream come true at no charge to you. (LOL! Hey, that rhymed.) Hehe

Well, since 198_7 isn't official, isn't flashing that SBF actually taking you away from a stock experience?

Never had one random reboot. Maybe some apps or a not 100% working root you guy's applied to the phone? Mine is flawless.
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[Q] Samsung VIbrant Problems anyone???

Hello everyone, im not one to post much, i bascily find what i need say what i must and im done... I purchased 2 samsung vibrants, made a contract and never been so happy with a phone... A few days after having the phone, i start having issues when trying to make a call... Phone stays in Dialing screen and doesnt go anywhere from there, or goes black, or just drops the call or doesnt make the call at all and goes rightback to the main screen... ALSO!!! text messeges wouldnt go through with a 3g signal full bars... soon after i started having issues with a few programs the sims would give me an error, other aps would get the shakes, freeze, market doesn load , just a black screen... so i called tmobile let them know what was going on.... made us do a reset lost everything on the phones.... waited a few more days same problems again this time we went and got the sim cards changed.... few hours later same thing again... so after we passed the 14 day period to return the phones or what not they gave us a bit of a hassle to have them replaced but they replaced them... Mind you this issues was random and everything happend while having a better then good enough signal... so we get the replacements and a few days later... same issues again... Now my concern is how lucky can i be to get 4.... FOUR!!! not 1... but 4 phones that do the same exact things...
Id like to know how many ppl are having any of these issues besides the gps one... cause tmobile reps keep saying "OH i know "Blank" has this phone and hasnt had any issues at all, we havent recieved many calls about this phone.. " Im sure its Bull but please if any of you have had these issues please post id like to get something done about this cause at this point i love the phone but i cant deal with not being able to use my phone when i want to... Ive taken a few pics of the errors and a video or two but i wanna have something to show inthere face that im not just the only one with this problem and i dont just want a new phone...
My Mytouch 3g 1.2 with cyanogen ran faster, better, and never gave me the issues this phone is giveing me.. its stupid and i dont believe this should be happening...
So please post lol thanks....
p.s.
I know i miss spelled im running late for work and typed in a rush sorry...
RE: Black Screens
It's your phone lagging.
Do you have Facebook or Twitter hooked into your phone.
It's probably updating statuses in the phone app, and that's why it's lagging. When it lags, it starts giving black screens. Happens a lot. If you want to stick with the phone, then some of the knowledgeable modders here can recommend some decent custom ROMs that get rid of much of the lag, and point you in the correct direction.
From what I've read FroYo doesn't fix this issue on Galaxy S phones, though some said the leaked 2.2.1 ROM for the i9k fixes much of it.
RE: Text Messages
T-Mobile's network is pretty bad, I've noticed. I get the failed text messages quite a bit as well.
RE: Shakes and stuff in other apps
See "RE: Black screens" The RFS file system is almost guaranteed to lag any application which accesses the forum, especially if they use a database.
90% of the people here have had the same issues. 80% of them run a custom ROM or Lag Fix, 5% of them are in denial, and 5% of them run such a slimmed down setup that the lag is rare and simply doesn't bother them.
Speaking of which. There are Lag Fixes and Custom ROMs (usually with Lag Fixes integrated in them) that can alleviate much of the Lag. YMMV, however.
HTH.
umm a user error? i wonder how you use your phone..
like when you download apps from the marketplace, do you at the same time to make calls? send texts? or other stuffs while downloading? orr are you multi tasking as lot? web, text, games ? do you even exit on apps ..hmm
and you've been a member since july when the vibrant launched, are you not making this story up? LOL im kidding.. just get a different phone i guess, not a vibrant..
He's past the return period. Read his post.
Phones are cheap I heard...
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My Vibrant doesnt regonize sd card
I rooted my phone the other day and flashed to Nero 3 Team whiskey Rom, ever since then my phone doesn't recognize my external sd card and when i plug it to the PC it only shows internal card can some one help me i posted this twice and no respond hope this one works and thanks to all of you...
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I rooted my phone the other day and flashed to Nero 3 Team whiskey Rom, ever since then my phone doesn't recognize my external sd card and when i plug it to the PC it only shows internal card can some one help me i posted this twice and no respond hope this one works and thanks to all of you...
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Check this out, this may be what you need: Internal/External Sdcard Mounting Fix - for all 2.2 roms - *11/20/10*
the SAME EXACT ISSUES WITH ALL PHONES?
Here's what i did before, not to a vibrant, but my g2 when it had a bunch of problems.
After 6 replacements, tmobile told me that they can't trust me anymore. so for this time i went to their store and let them see the problems, they told me they hadn't seen it before (obviously) then i asked if i could TRY OUT another phone in front of them, i took out everything, and put it in the new phone, and same issues.
They told me something was wrong and they'd do something... they went to the back, same back after 10 minutes, and everything was fixed, but they wiped EVERYTHING ON MY PHONE, the sd card etc.
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He's past the return period. Read his post.
Phones are cheap I heard...
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I read it.. do you realize that it's nnot hard to replace the phone on TMobile? Tmo might even offer him a different phone.. it's called customer service and it's not like he bricked the phone anyway.. even if you bricked it they'd still replace it.. are you that oblivious???
I only had my Vibrant running stock firmware for about 2mins so I do not know about your lag. I am using the latest PepperKake rom with the Voodoo lag fix. I do not have facebook or twitter running. Just my email and a PS3 trophy card. I have not seen any sort of lag or freeze.
Ms_Vibrant said:
I read it.. do you realize that it's nnot hard to replace the phone on TMobile? Tmo might even offer him a different phone.. it's called customer service and it's not like he bricked the phone anyway.. even if you bricked it they'd still replace it.. are you that oblivious???
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I've been through 3 of these phones. I don't need tips from you.
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N8ter was the most helpful with his first post. JL5 fixed alot of the "lag" issues I had, but the only lag I was experiencing was using my exchange (corporate) connector.
Best bet is to flash to JL5 or a custom rom, or if you dont wish to deal with that return the phone and tell TMO what for.
JL5 "Stock" ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881542
N8ter said:
I've been through 3 of these phones. I don't need tips from you.
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then what's the point of you saying "he's past the return period..?" if you yourself were able to exchange it 3 times? can't he do the same knowing he's got faulty devices?
it's funny how some poster above me could praise you and say you were helpful when you cant even help yourself to make your phone become better and learn to like it, but instead you come in here parading your hate about the vibrant...
ughhh.. rolleyes**
Ms_Vibrant said:
then what's the point of you saying "he's past the return period..?" if you yourself were able to exchange it 3 times? can't he do the same knowing he's got faulty devices?
it's funny how some poster above me could praise you and say you were helpful when you cant even help yourself to make your phone become better and learn to like it, but instead you come in here parading your hate about the vibrant...
ughhh.. rolleyes**
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You told him to get another phone - which I interpret to mean a different phone, because another Vibrant won't fix his issues, obviously. I've gotten two replacements (both were BNIB basically from the factory, since they were backordered when I put the tickets in).
He's past the return period, so his only choice would be to get a different phone, and those aren't cheap.
Furthermore, carriers (T-Mobile included) are always willing to swap the phone out for a different model to save a contract, but they aren't so dumb that they will let any random user get a free upgrade just because they called in *****ing about phone problems and threatened to cancel their contract (when you ETF, they get their subsidy back).
I know what I'm talking about. I've ETF'd from two other carriers in the past 6 months (Sprint and AT&T, due to poor signal issues) and have had all 4.
You can roll your eyes all you want, miss thing who is obviously a fangirl.
Sorry eveyone i lost my password for a while lol... To update you all on this, i ended up going thru 6!!! vibrants all had the same issues.. i didnt wanna root it i loved it as it was but after argueing with tmo, and samsung i didnt get anywhere with them, they only offered to exchange for the charm, HEll no! ...They WOuldnt exchange it for anything else.. so i ended up canceling the contract. It was cheaper to cancel the contract then to buy another phone at full price like they wanted me to.. it was $400 to cancel the contract plus the month, for the family plan... had i purchased two phones the "mytouch 4g" which is what we tried to get, at full price it was running about 900 to almost 1200 for both phones... havent had any issues with the mytouch ... But whats funny is , they now have the same vibrant phone with 4g service and a front facing camera... could it be they knew the vibrant had issues? so went ahead and remade it /fixed the issues instead of a recall. I saw several ppl everytime i went out who had one and actually ASKED them if they had any issues like i was and YES they did...
Basically in a nut shell Eclair is ****. The phone is awesome . Flash a good Rom and everything will be fine.
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that sucks
Guyver96 said:
Hello everyone, im not one to post much, i bascily find what i need say what i must and im done... I purchased 2 samsung vibrants, made a contract and never been so happy with a phone... A few days after having the phone, i start having issues when trying to make a call... Phone stays in Dialing screen and doesnt go anywhere from there, or goes black, or just drops the call or doesnt make the call at all and goes rightback to the main screen... ALSO!!! text messeges wouldnt go through with a 3g signal full bars... soon after i started having issues with a few programs the sims would give me an error, other aps would get the shakes, freeze, market doesn load , just a black screen... so i called tmobile let them know what was going on.... made us do a reset lost everything on the phones.... waited a few more days same problems again this time we went and got the sim cards changed.... few hours later same thing again... so after we passed the 14 day period to return the phones or what not they gave us a bit of a hassle to have them replaced but they replaced them... Mind you this issues was random and everything happend while having a better then good enough signal... so we get the replacements and a few days later... same issues again... Now my concern is how lucky can i be to get 4.... FOUR!!! not 1... but 4 phones that do the same exact things...
Id like to know how many ppl are having any of these issues besides the gps one... cause tmobile reps keep saying "OH i know "Blank" has this phone and hasnt had any issues at all, we havent recieved many calls about this phone.. " Im sure its Bull but please if any of you have had these issues please post id like to get something done about this cause at this point i love the phone but i cant deal with not being able to use my phone when i want to... Ive taken a few pics of the errors and a video or two but i wanna have something to show inthere face that im not just the only one with this problem and i dont just want a new phone...
My Mytouch 3g 1.2 with cyanogen ran faster, better, and never gave me the issues this phone is giveing me.. its stupid and i dont believe this should be happening...
So please post lol thanks....
p.s.
I know i miss spelled im running late for work and typed in a rush sorry...
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that suck, r u able to reproduce the problems in front of the salesperson. i have four and all mine seem fine even when they were stock. they're all running cm7 #105 and seem to run without error -gps.

[Q] What should I do?

Alright so while on the USB cable my phone has started to show the scrolling left issue. I don't really love that because I got one of those portable battery chargers for christmas. So what should I do, unroot and ask for a new eris (or possibly incredible) at my Verizon store? Or will my new eris have the same problem?
Thanks,
CPCookieMan
On another note, I may get the Incredible HD for my next phone. I would just be really mad if they were teasing a phone for ATT here.
CPCookieMan said:
On another note, I may get the Incredible HD for my next phone. I would just be really mad if they were teasing a phone for ATT here.
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I doubt that. Verizon already has LTE out an running; at&t does not, and I can't believe that they will by Thursday. And the fact that they mention "first to 4G again" suggests that it is not another Sprint WiMax phone.
doogald said:
I doubt that. Verizon already has LTE out an running; at&t does not, and I can't believe that they will by Thursday. And the fact that they mention "first to 4G again" suggests that it is not another Sprint WiMax phone.
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The ad is so true. It's not my dream phone, (Obviously the eris. When I bought this thing I couldn't ask for more.) it's the one after that. Still does anyone have any thoughts on what I should do?
CPCookieMan said:
Alright so while on the USB cable my phone has started to show the scrolling left issue. I don't really love that because I got one of those portable battery chargers for christmas. So what should I do, unroot and ask for a new eris (or possibly incredible) at my Verizon store? Or will my new eris have the same problem?
Thanks,
CPCookieMan
On another note, I may get the Incredible HD for my next phone. I would just be really mad if they were teasing a phone for ATT here.
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I know you're knowledgeable, so just ignore me if I'm suggesting anything you already know or have tried. Have you already tried jiggling (a little hard) any USB cable around while it's plugged in.
Also, I would try this without anything plugged into it: press harder on the trackball than usual and while pressing hard, roll it around in all the directions.
I've also heard suggested that turning it upside down and rolling the trackball around on a piece of paper can also help clean it, at least.
This may at least buy you some more time for you and that phone, or get you out of a jam when it starts action up again.
You could try to get a refurb, but as you already know, it may have the same problem eventually. If it did, or did right away, though, you might be able to convince them to give you a free upgrade to something else, and hopefully not take away from your next NE2 option.
CPCookieMan said:
Alright so while on the USB cable my phone has started to show the scrolling left issue. I don't really love that because I got one of those portable battery chargers for christmas. So what should I do, unroot and ask for a new eris (or possibly incredible) at my Verizon store? Or will my new eris have the same problem?
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To hedge your bets, I would recommend you install scary alien's v1.7.1 mod of Amon_RA's custom recovery - that way if the trackball goes out any further, you will have less hassles whether you unroot and return the phone, or continue to use it.
One in the hand is worth two in the bush!
If it's any consolation (misery loves company) I'll probably be where you are in a couple of months (no trackball issues yet, but my adb session drops sometimes if I move the phone while plugged in).
bftb0
I had this exact same problem. After 3 replacements I yelled at the verizon reps till they agreed to give me a new phone. I don't know that you will get an incredible. They have been giving eris owners a droid 2, which is still leaps and bounds better than the eris, besides the locked bootloader (thanks motorola and your efuse...)
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Why is Verizon swapping out phones with random reboots?

Something just isn't right about all of this. I think everybody agrees that the random reboots are a result of the recent update and is something that will be fixed by another update. If that's true, why is Verizon swapping out phones for people?
I called Verizon yesterday complaining about the reboots and was told to factory reset my phone as it had been working for other people. I was also told to call back if the reboots continued and that my phone would be replaced. Of course they continued so I called today and have a replacement on its way.
I guess I'm hoping that the phone I get hasn't had the update applied. If it has, what's the point of Verizon sending it? How is it even possible that their tech support doesn't know the cause of the random reboots?
yes i agree it seems a little fishy. but for the average customer rolling back the software might not be the easiest thing to do. not to mention its a PITA.
i would imagine it makes them happy hearing they will get a new phone. i think its just a band aid while they are working on it.
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yes i agree it seems a little fishy. but for the average customer rolling back the software might not be the easiest thing to do. not to mention its a PITA.
i would imagine it makes them happy hearing they will get a new phone. i think its just a band aid while they are working on it.
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The thing is though, tech support never told me not to update the new phone when it arrives. I won't be updating but there's a lot of people out there who don't keep up with these forums that are going to update and end up right back in the same boat.
Maybe they want to investigate the phones with issues
My advice is don't get a replacemnt for your phone because your giving up a new bought pphone for a refurbished phone. Bad choice in my opinion.
One mmore thing. Verizon is not taking these phone in for investigation. Here merely just a company trying tto make the customer happy that's why there replacing phone. There nothing techy about it. Its just an attempt at customer satisfaction.
I agree with dalrym05. I had random reboots both Before and After i applied the ota. Don't think it has to do anything with the hardware.
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My wife has had random reboots before the update. Hasn't had any since the update. Mine has had one reboot when I was watching a 2hr video on youtube with a very low battery when it did it. I really think it has something to do with apps not being addressed properly. She has apps I would never use and one was causing an issue, so she pulled it. The lag stopped at that point. If they swap your tb and it reboots, start looking at what is installed.
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I just wanted to spread the gospel. If you follow the instructions in this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081230 it has virtually eliminated the random reboots for me. I also had reboots after updating my radio. I used the combo prescribed in this thread and they are gone
dalrym05 said:
My advice is don't get a replacemnt for your phone because your giving up a new bought pphone for a refurbished phone. Bad choice in my opinion.
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I agree. Unless my phone is practically unusable through no fault of mine, I try to hold off on getting a replacement phone as much as possible.
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Verizon has acknowledged the rebooting problem and is working with HTC:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-verizon-working-thunderbolt-reboots
sprodigy said:
I just wanted to spread the gospel. If you follow the instructions in this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081230 it has virtually eliminated the random reboots for me. I also had reboots after updating my radio. I used the combo prescribed in this thread and they are gone
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That's great for people who are rooted.

Seriously what is happening with Atrix and its ramdom reboots

My Atrix start rebooting itself every 10 to 20 min. It doesnt matter what i tried to resolved. I have returned to stock, used cm 7.2 stable and other rooms and the cellphone keeps rebooting itself no matter what.
I did a fast search and I found many threads about this in the last couple months, so not old threads seems like everyone is having this issue recently and no solution yet. Many people mentioned is a problem with the radio, others say it is the sim card, or hardware problems but it is really weird that so many people is having this problem recently, isnt it?
My cellphone is exactly one year older so no more warranty for me, either way I have it unlock so i guess I voided my warranty since then. has anyone trying to contact Motorola about it or A&T, for me it is a really big deal, specially looking all the people that is having the same problem.
I will really appreciate if any of our wonderful devs here in xda have an idea of what this problem can be and how to solve it, I mean really solve it.
I had to flash a uk radio on mine to fix the mess. Sucks cause battery life is worse on the radio I'm on but better to have bad batt life than reboots all the time
Some people had random reboots caused by a faulty SIM card; it's an easy and simple thing to try and see if it solves your issue. Usually if you just walk in a store and ask, your carrier will replace your SIM card for free.
New sim card fixed my reboot problem. The AT&T store was skeptical, but they replaced it anyway... and it worked! I had the same problem with an HTC Aria, and changing the sim card fixed it. Interestingly, the Aria still randomly reboots without a sim card, but once the new sim is installed - no problem. Go figure! Since my stock ATRIX 4G won't work without a sim card, I can't try that scenario.
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Turl knows everything!
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For someone who tells everyone that wants to listen or not how much you hate the Atrix (lol at username), you sure spend a lot of time here. It's pretty sad.
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For someone who tells everyone that wants to listen or not how much you hate the Atrix (lol at username), you sure spend a lot of time here. It's pretty sad.
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New sim card fixed my reboot problem. The AT&T store was skeptical, but they replaced it anyway... and it worked! I had the same problem with an HTC Aria, and changing the sim card fixed it. Interestingly, the Aria still randomly reboots without a sim card, but once the new sim is installed - no problem. Go figure! Since my stock ATRIX 4G won't work without a sim card, I can't try that scenario.
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mmm I really was skeptical to try a new sim card mainly because i tried my atrix without the sim and keeps rebooting so I though that sim card couldnt be the problem, but I will try hoping that helps.
Logic will tell us that if atrix keep rebooting without sim card this wouldnt be the problem, right? So how is possible that a new sim card would be able to fix this problem (well maybe) but you still have it without sim card?
Thanks a lot for your replies.
ok I tried with a new sim card and I am still having the reboots, so the sim card is not the problem and never was. So any other recomendation on how to solve this issue? I can't belive that some many are having this problem, according to what i read, and we dotn hear anything from Motorola.
Check if it reboots when you keep it cool, try leaving it in a fridge. It's a common symptom of bga solder balls coming apart when things get hot and expand.
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I wouldn't be surprised if this phone blows up in my pocket one day.
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I wouldn't be surprised if this phone blows up in my pocket one day.
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Seriously, stop whining on every thread. If you have nothing constructive to say, stfu. Are you this whingy in real life? Keep it up and you will never get a chance to contribute to the gene pool.
You got a dud unit, sucks for you, get a grip!
PS. If you just need a hug and sympathy, here you go, /group: hug hug kissy kissy/. We all feel for you. Better now?
PPS. It sounds like you have a CPU that is heat damaged, probably from some unfortunate flash or just bad luck. If you can't afford a new phone, buy one with a broken screen for peanuts and swap the motherboard. The Atrix is probably the easiest phone to pull apart and service that there is. (iFixit has a step by step tear down) Actually, that's the great unsung feature of this phone, it's so damn easy to work on.
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Seriously, stop whining on every thread. If you have nothing constructive to say, stfu. Are you this whingy in real life? Keep it up and you will never get a chance to contribute to the gene pool.
You got a dud unit, sucks for you, get a grip!
PS. If you just need a hug and sympathy, here you go, /group: hug hug kissy kissy/. We all feel for you. Better now?
PPS. It sounds like you have a CPU that is heat damaged, probably from some unfortunate flash or just bad luck. If you can't afford a new phone, buy one with a broken screen for peanuts and swap the motherboard. The Atrix is probably the easiest phone to pull apart and service that there is. (iFixit has a step by step tear down) Actually, that's the great unsung feature of this phone, it's so damn easy to work on.
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It seems I have hurt your feelings, I apologize.
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It seems I have hurt your feelings, I apologize.
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No. He/she as well as myself are tired of looking for new news about our atrix but constantly read your emo posts.
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Weren't some applications causing this issue as well?
I think it was Facebook.
I had the random reboot issue while using the device without a sim card. Putting a sim card in solved it. Still puzzled as to why it does that with out a sim card.
If the SIM didn't fix it, I would start looking at apps. That's something that nobody seems to realize, that apps can cause wonky issues just as bad as hardware, kernel, OS, etc... If you want to track it down, I would start with a fresh ROM-of-your-choice install and slowly add your apps to see which one is causing the issue.
@Atrix-Owner - hijacking a legitimate thread to spit your poison is pointless and juvenile. Grow up and move on - at the very least STFU. That is all. +ignore
If the SIM didn't fix it, I would start looking at apps. That's something that nobody seems to realize, that apps can cause wonky issues just as bad as hardware, kernel, OS, etc... If you want to track it down, I would start with a fresh ROM-of-your-choice install and slowly add your apps to see which one is causing the issue.
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Sim didnt fix it for me, and I already looked for every application but nothing was running that could cause this. I really think I have the faulty part for heat because the reeboots seem to happen only when the cellphone gets hot. I leave the cell phone resting and it can stay without reboot days, but as soon as I start using any game(shadowgun, engry birds) or applications (surf the web, check videos) that demand the cellphone some kind of power then cellphone will start feeling hot and will reboot.
PPS. It sounds like you have a CPU that is heat damaged, probably from some unfortunate flash or just bad luck. If you can't afford a new phone, buy one with a broken screen for peanuts and swap the motherboard. The Atrix is probably the easiest phone to pull apart and service that there is. (iFixit has a step by step tear down) Actually, that's the great unsung feature of this phone, it's so damn easy to work on.
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I really was hoping it will be somethig cause by software and not hardware where a hardware fix/replace will be need. I already have another phone, a Razr, but i really like my Atrix and I want it to pass it to my sister or my girlfriend.
in cause I would want to fix it, do you think will be cheaper to buy a broken screen atrix and do the repair as you mentioned or just send my atrix to motorola to be repair or maybe any other rapairshop.
Thanks everyone for your replies.
I was mostly aiming my reply at our resident wailing wall, if you can get moto to fix your phone for you then that seems like the preferred option.
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My atrix wifi stopped working then suddenly started doing random reboots. I reflashed tried everything. Will only stay on for a min or so then rebootes over and over again really annoying!!
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is the beta cm7 stable enough to be used frequently?

So currently I am running liberty3, and I don't know if it is the rom or not, but my phone has been overheating, freezing, and just being really god damn slow. It has been like this for a while now, I have even throw my phone out of frustration(because eclipse was the same way) and I have no what to do.
I am debating to just flash cm7, but heard it is still in beta, and I was wondering if people are using it even though there are bugs.
Really frustrated at the moment would appreciate some info...(1 more year on this contract before I can get rid of this POS...=/)
CM7 is very stable. As for it being "beta" cyanogen won't support it so until DZK figures a way to get around the bootloader it will keep the "beta" label.
Regarding the problems your having with your phone it sounds like it could be just that, problems with the phone, not the ROM. Eclipse and CM7 are the two most stable ROM's we have available and should not be the source of the kind of problems you describe.
And lastly remember CM7 runs on 2.3.4, it will give you fits if you try flashing it on 2.3.5.
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CM7 is quicker and more stable than any of the blur-based roms ever were on my phone, and all of them had a really irritating issue with bluetooth volume that CM7 fixed. I've been running on the same flash of beta 1 since January.
thanks for the replies guys, guess ill just flash cm7, and if I still have the same problems I can go talk to a verizon rep and see if I can get a replacement or somthing =/
this is actually making me laugh the stupid **** it's doing right now, I press play on a song, and the screen starts distorting, i exit and 90 seconds later the song starts playing, but then it pauses and the phone gets hot all of a sudden
how do you manage to **** up a phone this badly I just don't understand(I have owned this since 2011 may, it can't be a phone problem it just started happening 2-3 months ago)
Personally i hate people like you.... Why the hell should verizon send you a replacement for something youve ruined by throwing at a wall or across a room... Cm7 works fine but nothing will change the fact that abusing your electronics is your problem... You cant treat tech like that and expect it to keep working
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Personally i hate people like you.... Why the hell should verizon send you a replacement for something youve ruined by throwing at a wall or across a room... Cm7 works fine but nothing will change the fact that abusing your electronics is your problem... You cant treat tech like that and expect it to keep working
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Oh please. The droid x2 is one of the WORST developed android phones out right now. Not only that, the issues I have had with it came LONG before I actually "threw" it. Obviously I didn't baseball throw it into a concrete wall, but it wasn't even close enough to do damage. Verizon should send me a replacement because motorola has created a pretty pathetic excuse for a phone, or because I received a defective phone. Like I said, these issues have been going for FOREVER, and this phone in general has had issues since its release.
The phone isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. You would think that we got a brick in A box. But cm7 is very stable and works well for DD.
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I agree that the Droid X2 isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Any problems you have is either a defective phone or you flashed something the wrong way. Almost everyone who have these ROMs on their phones have no problems. So instead of blaming the phone and calling it crap, let us help you fix it.
First of all, as was mentioned already, CM7 and Eclipse are two of the most stable ROMs for this phone. Liberty was just a quick port and has not had any updates since its release. Honestly, I dont know why people still use it. The problem with Eclipse is that it is on a different kernel than every other ROM we have. So if you went from liberty to eclipse without changing the kernel to 2.3.5 first, you will experience problems. Did you install Eclipse by using the 2.3.5 SBF file first?
Or if you want the best of both world's I have eclipse 1.3. It runs on 2.3.4 kernel. These phones do get hot. What do you mean by overheat? Does it shut down or just feel hot?
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Sounds like luck of the draw to me. I for one do my very best not to abuse electronics because they are 1) fragile and 2) expensive to buy/repair. Keeping that in mind, I did, ONE TIME, get blackout drunk and from what I'm told, chucked my X2 at someone's head and then they stomped on it, screen facing up. Absolutely no physical damage at all. That however is very, very, very rare.
Generally in my personal experience, Motorola makes some solid phones. I've put the Droid X, X2, Droid 3 and the new RAZR through hell and they all held up on performance after being dropped, kicked and being tossed onto asphalt and concrete. The only one I actually got the break with a reasonable amount of force was the Droid 3.
I can also tell you that no two phones are created equally, ever. Why do you think every single person who owns a Nexus isn't currently on the same ROM/kernel combo? What is fast, smooth & has good battery for me might be choppy and fast to discharge for someone else. Just because your phone doesn't act how it should doesn't mean its the ROM. You could have gotten a lemon (it happens) or maybe you just damaged internals when you chucked it. Doesn't matter if you didn't throw it like a baseball. All you need to do is hit the right part with the right amount of force. That's all it takes.
Hell when I got Verizon to exchange my X2, they sent me a Stratosphere. The same day I got the phone I put it on silent and went to bed. Some asshole called me at 2:30am that night. I did not answer it. instead, I rolled back over and went to bed. The phone vibrated off of my nightstand. It fell all of about 2.5 feet onto my BED then another 5 or so inches onto my carpeted floor. The screen was completely cracked and totally 100% unresponsive. There absolutely is no minimum requirement for force or distance needed to break your phone. Simple as that.
I can relate to you in the sense that I went through a phase where I hated the X2 as well, so I'm not trying to bash you. Keep that in mind . Also keep in mind that ICS wasn't even out yet. In fact CM9 wasn't much more than a rumor. The only ROMs I had to chose from were Molten & Liberty (both unsupported), Eclipse and CM7. I guess MIUI was out already, but it was so far down in the dev forum I didn't even know it existed months after I got the phone. Now you guys have ports for Paranoid Android and AOKP? Come on man. If I'd known they were coming I would have never left and got a Stratosphere.
Not to mention that the famous X2 developer, Dragonzkiller, is not only working on kexec for your phone, he's making progress with it. If he happens to get it working and you could load any kernels you wanted that would open up development around here and you would see a lot more, fully functional ROMs. It isn't so bad. When dzk gets kexec working you will have a great phone in terms of specs and ROMs, man.
You think a locked bootloader is bad?? Haha at least you have ROMs besides stock. My stratosphere? Sure the BL wasn't locked, but the radio interface layer was. In case you didn't know, ROMs like cyanogen, aokp, paranoid android, miui, eclipse, etc. use custom RILs. What this means is that the less than 7 month old 4g phone I got as a replacement for my X2 had much less going on for it than your phone. We had a grand total of TWO ROMs and they were both based off of stock. Just mostly theme changes. Plus only 1 kernel that would let us over clock. Barely.
To answer your first question, yes. Dragonzkiller's release of cyanogen mod 7 is stable enough to be used as a daily driver for your X2. I used it as my daily ROM for about 99% of the time I owned the phone. The other 1% was me trying other ROMs. Generally in CM7, everything works. The only issue I had (from memory) was the WiFi sleep issue. However, another one of the talented X2 developers released a new build.prop mash up which helped. It didn't keep WiFi from disconnecting when the phone slept for long periods of time, but it did reconnect it before I had a chance to get a "No Data" error message.
So you're stuck with the X2 for another year. So what? I don't see what *****ing about it here will do you. What do you want us to say? You don't like the phone? Sorry.. We can't change that for you. If you had posted this topic in any other phones forum, they would have flamed the living sh*t out of you by now lol. So that's another plus. You're a part of the best forum on XDA. Hands down.:thumbup:. If you have any issues with your phone... something isn't working, you soft bricked it, you flashed cm7 over 2.3.5 and you don't know what to do, etc., there will be someone here 24/7 to KINDLY assist you and get you back up and running again. Why do you think all of us who got Dinc2's or GNex's still come around here? Great community with kind, helpful people. I dare you to go to another forum and post a noob "help me" thread somewhere and watch how many hateful, unhelpful, "search next time noob, there's stickies for a reason" replies you get. I missed the X2 so much when I was stuck on my Stratosphere. You think your phone lags? Try going from a dual core to a single core. Hahahahaha, THEN come talk to me about lag. XD.
The best I can do for you is say call Verizon and tell them you're having issues with the phone. As long as it's not visibly noticeable that you damaged it, go through tech supports steps and have them replace it with another X2 and give these ROMs another go. I would have been pissed if I had year to go on stock motoblur, but luckily I had cm7 to make things okay.
And hey, maybe you can get it exchanged. Who knows? Quite a few of us did. Just be careful as to what phone you accept. They sold the Strat to me like it was a brand new, top of the line phone. I stupidly accepted it right away, just happy to get off of the X2 only to realize I screwed myself. I pretty much had to give Verizon my left nut to get this GNex, and that was my favorite one.
Besides "sorry for the long post" - that's all i have to say. Good luck.
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Sounds like luck of the draw to me. I for one do my very best not to abuse electronics because they are 1) fragile and 2) expensive to buy/repair. Keeping that in mind, I did, ONE TIME, get blackout drunk and from what I'm told, chucked my X2 at someone's head and then they stomped on it, screen facing up. Absolutely no physical damage at all. That however is very, very, very rare.
Generally in my personal experience, Motorola makes some solid phones. I've put the Droid X, X2, Droid 3 and the new RAZR through hell and they all held up on performance after being dropped, kicked and being tossed onto asphalt and concrete. The only one I actually got the break with a reasonable amount of force was the Droid 3.
I can also tell you that no two phones are created equally, ever. Why do you think every single person who owns a Nexus isn't currently on the same ROM/kernel combo? What is fast, smooth & has good battery for me might be choppy and fast to discharge for someone else. Just because your phone doesn't act how it should doesn't mean its the ROM. You could have gotten a lemon (it happens) or maybe you just damaged internals when you chucked it. Doesn't matter if you didn't throw it like a baseball. All you need to do is hit the right part with the right amount of force. That's all it takes.
Hell when I got Verizon to exchange my X2, they sent me a Stratosphere. The same day I got the phone I put it on silent and went to bed. Some asshole called me at 2:30am that night. I did not answer it. instead, I rolled back over and went to bed. The phone vibrated off of my nightstand. It fell all of about 2.5 feet onto my BED then another 5 or so inches onto my carpeted floor. The screen was completely cracked and totally 100% unresponsive. There absolutely is no minimum requirement for force or distance needed to break your phone. Simple as that.
I can relate to you in the sense that I went through a phase where I hated the X2 as well, so I'm not trying to bash you. Keep that in mind . Also keep in mind that ICS wasn't even out yet. In fact CM9 wasn't much more than a rumor. The only ROMs I had to chose from were Molten & Liberty (both unsupported), Eclipse and CM7. I guess MIUI was out already, but it was so far down in the dev forum I didn't even know it existed months after I got the phone. Now you guys have ports for Paranoid Android and AOKP? Come on man. If I'd known they were coming I would have never left and got a Stratosphere.
Not to mention that the famous X2 developer, Dragonzkiller, is not only working on kexec for your phone, he's making progress with it. If he happens to get it working and you could load any kernels you wanted that would open up development around here and you would see a lot more, fully functional ROMs. It isn't so bad. When dzk gets kexec working you will have a great phone in terms of specs and ROMs, man.
You think a locked bootloader is bad?? Haha at least you have ROMs besides stock. My stratosphere? Sure the BL wasn't locked, but the radio interface layer was. In case you didn't know, ROMs like cyanogen, aokp, paranoid android, miui, eclipse, etc. use custom RILs. What this means is that the less than 7 month old 4g phone I got as a replacement for my X2 had much less going on for it than your phone. We had a grand total of TWO ROMs and they were both based off of stock. Just mostly theme changes. Plus only 1 kernel that would let us over clock. Barely.
To answer your first question, yes. Dragonzkiller's release of cyanogen mod 7 is stable enough to be used as a daily driver for your X2. I used it as my daily ROM for about 99% of the time I owned the phone. The other 1% was me trying other ROMs. Generally in CM7, everything works. The only issue I had (from memory) was the WiFi sleep issue. However, another one of the talented X2 developers released a new build.prop mash up which helped. It didn't keep WiFi from disconnecting when the phone slept for long periods of time, but it did reconnect it before I had a chance to get a "No Data" error message.
So you're stuck with the X2 for another year. So what? I don't see what *****ing about it here will do you. What do you want us to say? You don't like the phone? Sorry.. We can't change that for you. If you had posted this topic in any other phones forum, they would have flamed the living sh*t out of you by now lol. So that's another plus. You're a part of the best forum on XDA. Hands down.:thumbup:. If you have any issues with your phone... something isn't working, you soft bricked it, you flashed cm7 over 2.3.5 and you don't know what to do, etc., there will be someone here 24/7 to KINDLY assist you and get you back up and running again. Why do you think all of us who got Dinc2's or GNex's still come around here? Great community with kind, helpful people. I dare you to go to another forum and post a noob "help me" thread somewhere and watch how many hateful, unhelpful, "search next time noob, there's stickies for a reason" replies you get. I missed the X2 so much when I was stuck on my Stratosphere. You think your phone lags? Try going from a dual core to a single core. Hahahahaha, THEN come talk to me about lag. XD.
The best I can do for you is say call Verizon and tell them you're having issues with the phone. As long as it's not visibly noticeable that you damaged it, go through tech supports steps and have them replace it with another X2 and give these ROMs another go. I would have been pissed if I had year to go on stock motoblur, but luckily I had cm7 to make things okay.
And hey, maybe you can get it exchanged. Who knows? Quite a few of us did. Just be careful as to what phone you accept. They sold the Strat to me like it was a brand new, top of the line phone. I stupidly accepted it right away, just happy to get off of the X2 only to realize I screwed myself. I pretty much had to give Verizon my left nut to get this GNex, and that was my favorite one.
Besides "sorry for the long post" - that's all i have to say. Good luck.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707
If you are going to take your phone into Verizon, follow these instructions to get your phone back to stock. This will remove root and make it like you just bought your phone. Who knows, maybe it will fix the problems you have as well. Try it out and if your issues continue, take it in.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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**** run aokp on this phone and tell me if u dont like it
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morlakai said:
Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Basically you would need to SBF your phone. SBF stands for system boot file, I believe. It is the complete stock factory image for your phone. That plus a data wipe/factory reset and they will have no idea you ever rooted it.
As for having it for a year, you may run into a problem there. Motorola might cover the X2 for two years, I'm not sure. Your warranty could be expired. You have to call Verizon to know for sure. If it's not expired just tell them that you're having whatever issues. They will run you through some steps, probably a data wipe, amongst other things. You tell them that no, none of the steps were able to fix the problems you are currently facing. At this point, if the phone is still under warranty they will go ahead and replace it for you. If not they will tell you to go through insurance, if you have it.
If not you're either going to have to pay for another phone off contract from a third party or stick with the one you have now.
If you still have warranty and really want to get a different phone, just tell them that you did plenty of research independently online and it would seem that no amount of X2s will fix the problems you have. That they seem to be due to poor coding at Motorola's end. That's what I did. Just remember to look up the phone they offer you as a replacement so you don't get burned like me. Not just the specs, but here on xda and rootzwiki as well. Make sure there's a development forum for it with plenty of selections for ROMs and kernels before you make your choice.
I was able to not only get rid of my X2 like that, but the Stratosphere as well. The one I had less than a month hahaha. If you're covered by warranty give it a shot.
P.S. The most frustrated I have ever been with a piece of electronics? My PlayStation 2 slim. I had a few of them, but there was one in particular that pissed me off. It slowly but surely stopped reading my discs. 1 at a time. It would read a game, I'd go to bed and the next day it wouldn't read that game anymore. It could play other games, but not that one. It got progressively worse until the only disc of any format it would read was SOCOM: Combined Assault. Wasn't too bad, it'd give me trouble every now and then, but it was the only disc it would play for months. Socom also happened to be my favorite game at the time and I played it all the time with my cousins and friends from school. We were all in a clan and we ran that game. Anyways I was with a bunch of guys one day and we were in the middle of a clan war. Ladder match. We made it all the way to the top, and my PS2 stopped reading socom. I tried frantically to get it working again, but it was useless. The laser finally crapped out. In a blind rage knowing the PS2 just cost us our biggest clan war ever, I threw it out of my second story window. I then proceeded to go outside with a hammer and utterly destroy it.
I had just gotten a job and was working, so I had to buy a new one. Lesson learned. Those *****es were expensive lol. Never did anything like that again.
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Getting frustrated is very easy to do and really don't help much. Want some senseless humor, read a few pages back in Off Topic and read my rants. I was ready to trash my new Gnex.
Just take a breather and ask for a hand. We are all like one big dysfunctional family. I've yet to see anyone be neglected that has needed help.
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Getting frustrated is very easy to do and really don't help much. Want some senless humor, read a few pages back in Off Topic and read my rants. I was ready to trash my new Gnex.
Just take a breather and ask for a hand. We are all like one big dysfunctional family. I've yet to see anyone be neglected that has needed help.
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What was the problem with the nexus?
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What was the problem with the nexus?
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To this day I still don't know. Maybe user error, but I think it is tempermental. I literally had to wipe the hell out of it before I could flash the first rom. At one point I wiped everything so many times, I really thought it was over. But all of a sudden it decided to work and hasn't missed a beat since. Now, I don't wipe anything on it anymore. It runs like a sewing machine.
CM7 is still rockin' on 2 of the X2's that I loaded and themed out.
morlakai said:
So currently I am running liberty3, and I don't know if it is the rom or not, but my phone has been overheating, freezing, and just being really god damn slow. It has been like this for a while now, I have even throw my phone out of frustration(because eclipse was the same way) and I have no what to do.
I am debating to just flash cm7, but heard it is still in beta, and I was wondering if people are using it even though there are bugs.
Really frustrated at the moment would appreciate some info...(1 more year on this contract before I can get rid of this POS...=/)
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As far as overheating is concerned you may want to look at adobe flash. Using the latest version caused issues for me and I gave had to revert back to a previous version. As others have mentioned going with CM7 or eclipse will make a huge difference. I have had 3 other smartphones with vzw and this was the best one so far.
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Basically you would need to SBF your phone. SBF stands for system boot file, I believe. It is the complete stock factory image for your phone. That plus a data wipe/factory reset and they will have no idea you ever rooted it.
As for having it for a year, you may run into a problem there. Motorola might cover the X2 for two years, I'm not sure. Your warranty could be expired. You have to call Verizon to know for sure. If it's not expired just tell them that you're having whatever issues. They will run you through some steps, probably a data wipe, amongst other things. You tell them that no, none of the steps were able to fix the problems you are currently facing. At this point, if the phone is still under warranty they will go ahead and replace it for you. If not they will tell you to go through insurance, if you have it.
If not you're either going to have to pay for another phone off contract from a third party or stick with the one you have now.
If you still have warranty and really want to get a different phone, just tell them that you did plenty of research independently online and it would seem that no amount of X2s will fix the problems you have. That they seem to be due to poor coding at Motorola's end. That's what I did. Just remember to look up the phone they offer you as a replacement so you don't get burned like me. Not just the specs, but here on xda and rootzwiki as well. Make sure there's a development forum for it with plenty of selections for ROMs and kernels before you make your choice.
I was able to not only get rid of my X2 like that, but the Stratosphere as well. The one I had less than a month hahaha. If you're covered by warranty give it a shot.
P.S. The most frustrated I have ever been with a piece of electronics? My PlayStation 2 slim. I had a few of them, but there was one in particular that pissed me off. It slowly but surely stopped reading my discs. 1 at a time. It would read a game, I'd go to bed and the next day it wouldn't read that game anymore. It could play other games, but not that one. It got progressively worse until the only disc of any format it would read was SOCOM: Combined Assault. Wasn't too bad, it'd give me trouble every now and then, but it was the only disc it would play for months. Socom also happened to be my favorite game at the time and I played it all the time with my cousins and friends from school. We were all in a clan and we ran that game. Anyways I was with a bunch of guys one day and we were in the middle of a clan war. Ladder match. We made it all the way to the top, and my PS2 stopped reading socom. I tried frantically to get it working again, but it was useless. The laser finally crapped out. In a blind rage knowing the PS2 just cost us our biggest clan war ever, I threw it out of my second story window. I then proceeded to go outside with a hammer and utterly destroy it.
I had just gotten a job and was working, so I had to buy a new one. Lesson learned. Those *****es were expensive lol. Never did anything like that again.
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ah ok, yeah I know how to SBF, so I will most likely do that and go to the verizon store to see what's up
if they offer me a replacement phone, I guess ill just ask them to give me a few days to make a decision so I can do research and find out if I am getting ripped off or not
thanks for all the replies guys, I know I come off as kind of an ass(ill be honest im pretty douchey) but this phone has transformed me into something T_T
cm7 is a good rom. Fast too! Since it is still based on the 2.3.4 kernel it has the orientation sensor bug too though.
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