Titanium backup can uninstall system app but unable to restore them? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone had this happen? I flashed XXKI3 a while ago and while doing initial tuning I backed up samsung account and temporarily uninstalled it. However when I tried to restore it from backup it's stuck on "restoring" and nothing. Force close Ti backup and retry results in the same.
Fortunately a quick reflash via odin restored it, but now I'm paranoid about uninstall anything with Ti backup, backup is useless if it can't be restored.
At the time I was on either stock or CF root, can't recall which one.

For the future, you should consider freezing apps (Paid version) you don't need before deleting them; much easier to restore if things go wrong.
For me personally, I could always restore uninstalled apps through Titanium though.

I know about freezing, but I needed uninstall to try out some stuff.

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Backups dont work

The dell backup app looks as though it works, but after its done, go into restore and it says this backup file is invalid. Tried several times.
Also, titanium backup backs up everything, but when you restore apps and data, or even just restore apps, 50% of the apps are force close.
I figured all this out when i reinstalled 318 without installing the performance fix.
Anyone else see the same message in dell backup?

[Q] What is lost during a ROM change? How to backup phone so I can play with ROMS

I'm running streakdroid 1.9 but I would like to do some experimentation with my streak. If I flash a new rom what will I lose? How do you backup your data so you can flash to your hearts content?
Thanks
if u flash stock roms, they do a factory reset during first start up.
So u end up loosing everything.
However if u flash .zip version of the stock roms using CWM or streak recovery , u will retain almost everything but may loose somethings like root and so on.
Remember stock roms will flash its default recovery everytime it boots up
Ok thanks. Is it wise to do a factory reset anyway?
What tools can I use to backup messages, apps, photos, etc?
I use titanium backup.
If you do a nandroid backup, when you restore it, everything will be just as it was before you flashed another ROM...
As far as using Titanium... it has never worked for me completely, nor has MyBackUp Pro, they cause me more headache than being useful...
I have gotten to the point to when I flash a new ROM, I just manually install everything, I know it sounds like some hassle, but you end up with a much smoother operating phone.
I even do a nandroid backup first, then go into my ROM and manually uninstall everything, so that when I boot up my new ROM and setup my market account, it doesn't try to install everything on its own and bog down my phone at first, I install everything manually in the order I want and set them up as I go.
I know this sounds cumbersome, but I have found it creates a cleaner environment and practically eliminated force closes
That is the way I like to do things also but what about the things that you can't just re-install e.g. sms, application specific data?
Advice
I was having a sim card and constant restart issue after updating to streakroid 2.4.4, and even after flashing dsc, the problem persisted. After I reviewed the steps I had taken I realized that I never did a factory resest (fearing I would forever lose my precious app data, which I did -_-). It turned out that was the fix, after doing the factory reset, my sim card was recognized immediately and a couple of the text I had missed showed up. However, I fixed one fixed problem and developed another.
Even though I restored a MyBackup and Titanium backup I did right before resetting I recovered my several apps without their precious data (setting, notes, bookmarks). I tried doing internal backups within the apps, some conveniently had syncs to a cloud yet I missed doing that with a few apps because I have over 100+ and I use more than half on a regular basis (even if for 5 minutes). All my apps are on my device, which is a good thing but I cant appreciate that given the missing data.
So my advice is:
Use apps that have can automatically backup or sync data -- there are enough apps with similiar utility that you can avoid ones without that function.
Do a manual backup within your important apps. -- Some apps backup files to locations that may be wiped during update, doesn't have auto backup or the last backup is months old.
Pics, texts, call logs are easily backed up -- Backup programs will explicitly state or ask what to back up in that regard.
Do a nandroid backup -- I believe this only restores rom and apps but someone can correct me.
Caveat
Through all the research done before actually need to restore a backup I missed the fact when restore apps depending on the restore program every app has to be reinstalled individually. If you have more than 25 apps then #$#@!, also for some reason when restoring with titanium if during a batch restore you come across an app if you hit cancel during one of the install prompts because you actually don't want to restore that app the batch will freeze and you'll have to force close titanium and start the restore all over. Go through the list of restore options and choose each app one by one, save yourself the time.
Lastly, to piggy back off what was said before, a factory reset( FR) after updating rom is always recommended but its not always needed. Most roms will update without causing you to lose any data but like I said previously I had sim card issues when I updated without a FR. YMMV
At this point I don't know if this helps the OP but maybe it will benefit someone else who reads this thread.
This guide by _n0p_ tells how to do an upgrade and minimize the re-installation of apps.
Key items:
Use the backup function of any apps that have it
Don't count on restoring data with TB or My Backup
Make a nandroid - just in case
I have found TB and My Backup to be useful for things like browser bookmarks.
The post linked to discussed going from Froyo to Gingerbread but the same techniques apply for moving to any other ROM.
Last time i changed roms, i used the Dell backup utility for evertyhing but the apps, which can be backed up together with their data with QtADB which creates a backup folder on your SD. After installing the new rom, i chose advanced recovery from the Dell Utility and set it to recover everything but the apps, which i recovered with QtADB. However, I also strongly recommend nandroid, in case the steak doesn't boot after the install.

Titanium Backup Problems

Today I unlocked my Atrix's bootloader, and, knowing that /data would be wiped, I backed up all of my apps and data with titanium backup. The only problem is that now titanium backup doesn't detect the apps that I had backed up, except the system apps. So basically the market apps don't appear. I'm working on trying to fix this now, but if anyone can help that would be great.
Thanks
UPDATE: I fixed it by reinstalling my pro key. Turns out the phone thought I had the free version, and, after reading the website, turns out the free version doesn't detect user apps.
Hmm maybe someone could help me out here.
I backupped all my app with titanium, unlocked the phone andr tried to restore my apps but after restoring a few one my phone reboots.
If I restore them manuel everything works fine but I don't want to restore them manually.
Can someone help me out?

[Q] About Google Backup

Hi, I used to use (lol) Titanium backup for backing up
my applications with their data (for example, asphalt 6 with all
of my progress). But a friend told me that when i backup with DATA,
it causes bugs of Force close when you restore, and it asks for your permission to install, and its annoying with 200 apps...
So I searched on Google a bit, and saw that Google has application
data backup, automatically! But im still not sure, will it backup all of my data?
All of the games data (progress), launchers and so on? will it restore
the data right after reinstall?
If not, I'll be glad if someone can advice me about any other good backup program..
Thanks, and sorry for my bad English...
As far as I know google app backup just redownloads your apps (no data).
And why did you "lol" at Titanium backup, it is still by far the best way to back stuff up. If you get the payed pro version then you don't have to click install for all 200 apps. And as long as you don't restore conflicting system data you should be fine.
I lol cause I said used to use (Idk why, it makes my laugh xD)
and about the Google Backup, the automatic restore says:
When re installing an application, backed up settings and data will be restored.
And what restore should I use with titanium backup?
Any help? I just wanna switch roms!
Everything Smasher said. TB has only caused force closes on about 2 of my 183 apps, but I fixed those issues with ease. I don't know too much about Google backing up data because I thought they only restored the app only.
EDIT: Maybe you should Nandroid backup your current rom then try the Google way and let us all know how it works out. If it doesn't restore app data then go back tou your current rom and take the Titanium way.

Can I Uninstall Titanium Backup from Phone?

is it safe to uninstall titanium backup from my phone? i already can backup my phone through backup when i boot into recovery. is it necessary therefore to have?
It is useful to have when switching from ROM to ROM to backup your apps. Lets say you switch ROMs...you use the new ROM for 2 weeks and you decide you don't like it. During that 2 weeks you added 10 new apps. When you revert to your nandroid backup, you will not have those apps. Also, some apps dont install automatically when switching ROMs. So it is a pretty necessary app...
It is quite convenient to have but yes, it is safe to remove it.
But what happens with the system apps that I have frozen with TB ? Will they get defrosted?

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