So, do you think samsung will ever update these devices to ice cream sandwich? Would anyone care enough to try to make a port? I don't have this device yet but I plan to get the 5 inch one for christmas and no ice cream sandwich won't stop me from getting it but I was just curious. Thanks!
I honestly don't expect Samsung to update these to ICS(but here's to hoping). We may see a port sometime though(I'm personally waiting for someone to port cyanogenmod to it, so that I can do some work with porting)
nyanyan: you might check your time zone setting here, your clock looks off.
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I honestly don't expect Samsung to update these to ICS(but here's to hoping). We may see a port sometime though(I'm personally waiting for someone to port cyanogenmod to it, so that I can do some work with porting)
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Actually, on my side, it doesn't look off at all...
I hope someone makes a port for this right now I'm using a Ice Cream Launcher instead of the built in Launcher.
Not to get off the topic too much...but does anyone know specific time frame Sammy will update the players so we can access Media Hub?
last i read there would be an "update in the future"....boo!
Curious, I don't have a Samsung TV (but may buy one soon), how is "Media Hub" different than "Smart View" (that's on these players)?
ICS?
I hope someone makes a port for this right now. Anyone had news?
5" with ICS ..
I bought one and this is very great but ICS is cooool...
Samsung G.Wifi + 1ghz + 5" + ICS.. =
Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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The YP series existed a long time ago as YEPP (young, energetic, passionate, person)because it is the model code for the mp3 players for samsung. it is not obligated to be a young audience. Take the samsung p3 for exemple (YP-P3) which is released in 2007 or 2008 (way before the article.) I think they will maybe release it if they release it to the original galaxy s (they have the same hardware capabilities.)Otherwise we can always wait for some custom roms. (CM9 ) And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
media hub is the acess point for movies, tv shows, etc for samsung mobile devices...i have several movies and shows i would love to watch on the player while traveling but i dont think we have access yet without an OTA.
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And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
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I agree! I mean, I would think the 4" would be more popular, since it can easily fit in pocket, but the screen is still plenty big!
Really too bad because I have a feeling all development towards roms is going to go to the 5.0, and not the 4.0 (not sure if a 5.0 rom would work on a 4.0).
Concerning ICS, kinda doubt it since it took them almost a year to update it to gingerbread!
Of course, maybe they will, but by that time, jellybean will be the new kid on the block, lol!
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And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
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I bought the 5.0 because it is pretty much the biggest possible size that I can still hold it with one hand. If you are commuting on train STANDING, you need to grab the hand rail using the other hand. Galaxy tab or iPad are way too big to use this way. For me, 4.0 is too small, I may just go with some newer super phone with 4 inch+ screen. Actually the new Galaxy Note is interesting.
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I agree! I mean, I would think the 4" would be more popular, since it can easily fit in pocket, but the screen is still plenty big!
Really too bad because I have a feeling all development towards roms is going to go to the 5.0, and not the 4.0 (not sure if a 5.0 rom would work on a 4.0).
Concerning ICS, kinda doubt it since it took them almost a year to update it to gingerbread!
Of course, maybe they will, but by that time, jellybean will be the new kid on the block, lol!
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As I said there's always the option for the custom rom but as you said all the developpement will go to the 5.0. As you had probably saw on ABI there a custom rom and kernel for the internationnal 4.0 (this is a great beginning I think.) I did some tests and post a little review on the thread. It is great for a first custom rom!
Yup, just saw that, hope it will get things rolling! Wonder how hard it would be to get it running on U.S version...
Only now do I see I should have payed a little extra for importing a international version instead of U.S. version, Ah well.
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(. As you had probably saw on ABI there a custom rom and kernel for the internationnal 4.0 (this is a great beginning I think.) I did some tests and post a little review on the thread. It is great for a first custom rom!
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Do you have a link? I wonder what is ABI .
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Do you have a link? I wonder what is ABI .
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ABI is Anything but ipod which it's talking about anything but ipod actually. The link for the firmware and kernel is there.
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66820
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Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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They're more that one month old in some parts of the world.
And they already upgraded it from froyo to gingerbread so an ICS might not come right now (if it ever comes).
I hope I'm wrong, just having bought mine to replace an ipod touch.
I just hope there wil be at least a cyanogen or other custom rom with ICS.
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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The "Y" is in the model number, not the device name. I have a YP-G70 and the device name is Samsung Galaxy "S" WiFi 5.0
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Next week ice cream sandwich is coming. We will be able to install it on the Legend
without waiting HTC to release it for the Legend ?
How long will take to Cyanogen mod to release ice cream sandwich version?
Htc wont release it for legend, but as for cyanogen, I think as soon as the source for ics is avalible.
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Yes but ICS will be compatible for all devices without the necessary manufacture mod for each device.
So we will be able to flash the original rom from Google?
But isn't it just for dual-core devices?
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But isn't it just for dual-core devices?
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No, certainly not.
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Yes but ICS will be compatible for all devices without the necessary manufacture mod for each device.
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So you mean that Google will release ICS supporting all those (roughly estimated) 400 completely different platforms and a huge load of even more devices?
I absolutely doubt that.
I think google's meaning about this words, is for all the device after they release ics4.0
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I think google's meaning about this words, is for all the device after they release ics4.0
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is what i am thinking
+1
i'm sure that HTC don't develop ice cream for Legend...
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No, certainly not.
So you mean that Google will release ICS supporting all those (roughly estimated) 400 completely different platforms and a huge load of even more devices?
I absolutely doubt that.
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You never know, they may have a hyper visor and have worked on the most popular chipsets to allow this to happen Wishful thinking though
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You never know, they may have a hyper visor and have worked on the most popular chipsets to allow this to happen Wishful thinking though
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Actually they already developed that and called it "Dalvik" . It's what makes running the same app on completely different devices possible.
Still, for a hyper-visor to work you need a hardware abstraction layer and that brings us back to the problem I mentioned above.
The legend with the pass of the time are old... and I think that Ice Cream Dont Works fine in Legend... unless the legend stay overclocked...
Its My Opinion ^^
but you dont have to destroy our dreams
the legend is a grandpa,no doubt, but it WOULD be nice to even try to bring it to life. and thats the real deal,huh
(otherwise i´ve to save some money for a new phone,..grr)
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but you dont have to destroy our dreams
the legend is a grandpa,no doubt, but it WOULD be nice to even try to bring it to life. and thats the real deal,huh
(otherwise i´ve to save some money for a new phone,..grr)
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start saving ;p
I bet ice cream will barely run 'normal' on the desire, and that is a 1ghz phone, so where do we stand with our max clocked 806mhz?
I rather see more 2.3 roms with better looks and tweaks etc. then a 4.0 rom
But hey that just my opinion
I actually think 4.0 will run smoother then 2.3 due to the hardware acceleration, I think we have enough of gpu power.. I don't see why it shouldn't work
Google's statement:
If a phone runs 2.3, it will also be able to run 4.0
If only there would be a dev that is up to the job. That's the problem.
Also, if you're considering that everyone who had the Legend from day 1, their 2 year contracts are almost over and I think they would like a new phone as well ^^
There is no phone right now like our old legend. Compact, well built, everything that big ones have, legend has. Desire has the same GPU even.. Legend 2 would be nice..
I doubt they would do that
It's all about bigger screens nowadays (not a bad thing imo) but I have to admit, the Legend has a design that no other phone can compare with. I loved it when I had it in the old days!
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Also, if you're considering that everyone who had the Legend from day 1, their 2 year contracts are almost over and I think they would like a new phone as well ^^
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Here in Canada, the only North American country who sold the Legend, we have 3 year contracts maximum (minimum, rather). Not saying I have one, but it's probably going to be a crappy feeling when everyone else abandons and you're stuck alone.
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I see... Well, I might be getting a new (old) Legend soon. If I get the device, I'm going to give it a try in porting (My first attempt ever though, don't kill me if it takes to long or I'll be failing)
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There is no phone right now like our old legend. Compact, well built, everything that big ones have, legend has. Desire has the same GPU even.. Legend 2 would be nice..
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I Agree very strongly, my choice in the legend, was about the size, I upgraded from a Sony-Ericsson W595 so size was similar...
My wife got the DHD just after me, and it's TOOOOOOO big, not comfortable in my pocket at all.
If I had to choose a new phone to replace the Legend, it would currently have to be the HTC Rhyme, ok, its a bit bigger then the legend, but it is still smaller then the DHD, and its got some nice specs on it. Only problem is, I believe the Rhyme is only available on the optus network :-(
My 1c worth
does our sga is capeble of getting the android 4.0 ice cream sadwich update or we have to be happy with gingerbred only???????????
Just wait for cm8.
We'd be the last family of devices to get ICS TBH if ever
I believe it has the chance of getting ICS but definetly not from Samsung. SGA has a very large amount of users and skillful developers who could make it happen.
We may have to be patient though.. Even Nexus S, which has the official support from Google, hasn't even recieved the upgrade yet. CMIIW.
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I believe it has the chance of getting ICS but definetly not from Samsung. SGA has a very large amount of users and skillful developers who could make it happen.
We may have to be patient though.. Even Nexus S, which has the official support from Google, hasn't even recieved the upgrade yet. CMIIW.
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They won't be pushing ICS to Nexus S when Prime hasn't even been out and ICS unveiled in Hong Kong on Wednesday.
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They won't be pushing ICS to Nexus S when Prime hasn't even been out and ICS unveiled in Hong Kong on Wednesday.
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Yeah.. Lame old marketing tactics lol.
By the way, I've seen some leaked videos of Prime and S running ICS and from there I could understand that even S wont have the exact same version of ICS the Prime will have... Well at least for the GUI.
Have a look at this.
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We'd be the last family of devices to get ICS TBH if ever
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couldnt agree more
If I had to choose I'd rather have a completely stable and optimized Gingerbread instead of an ICS. Stable meaning every feature working the way it should, like my wifi actually reconnecting after sleep.
The main advantages on ICS are:
1) dual core support and hardware accelerating
2) New UI.
Because neither of those are relevant to Galaxy Ace, I'm fine with Gingerbread.
But XDA developers are really fast and they will port ICS even if Samsung wouldn't.
but i have heard taht the update will be for 1 yr old devices i think galaxy ace is 1 yr old only...so we can get
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but i have heard taht the update will be for 1 yr old devices i think galaxy ace is 1 yr old only...so we can get
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Yeah maybe for some high-end devices that is..
And really, I wouldnt expect much from Samsung in the term of firmware updates.
Maybe we could just put our hope on a new ICS-based CM instead
google announced that it will be available for the first 18 months for existing phones...
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im hoping it would come to our devices.
Yup there's a new agreement for companies to provide software updates till the 1 year or so is up. We're probably getting it but of course they will prioritize.
New version of OS is one of marketing tricks to lure people into buying new phones, I'm quite sure that we won't see ICS stock from Samsung, but nevermind, we have great developers, so just wait for CM 8 an' see
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New version of OS is one of marketing tricks to lure people into buying new phones, I'm quite sure that we won't see ICS stock from Samsung, but nevermind, we have great developers, so just wait for CM 8 an' see
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It'd really be pointless though. ICS is a much more optimised version of HC which should bring full SMP support through software, something that has gone begging for quite a while to take advantage of phones like the S2. Maybe they are adding GPU rendering as well. Another useless perk for the Ace as the GPU is ****.
Also, why bother porting ICS to ARMv6? It's a complete waste of resources when it's almost likely to provide little to no benefit.
My opinion at least. Don't get your hopes up for ICS/ICS-based CM8.
I know (SGA even don't have flash) but at least they'll take some interface tweaks and eyecandies
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I know (SGA even don't have flash) but at least they'll take some interface tweaks and eyecandies
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Best we may see is a theme.
And what about some battery improvements in ICS? Maybe the phone won 't go faster but battery life could be higher. Or am i wrong?
Don't sound so negative guys, IV seen some old android phones running a ported gingerbread so anything is possible, never underestimate what the power of coding and patience can do
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Hi guys! What you think? Is it possible to bring new Android into SGS2?
I was watching at Hong Kong conference. So I'm excited. Probably I'll buy new phone - Galaxy Nexus. So what's your opinion? Is it possible? I'm noob .
Very possible. Google Nexus is not that much of a hardware leap from the SGS2. It will come to the SII
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Hi guys! What you think? Is it possible to bring new Android into SGS2?
I was watching at Hong Kong conference. So I'm excited. Probably I'll buy new phone - Galaxy Nexus. So what's your opinion? Is it possible? I'm noob .
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watched the event myself as well... Not too much impressed tho... Its coming on verizon for now.
Give it time… you'll see a ROM or two out by Thanksgiving IMO. The sdk has been released, and once the Nexus hits the market, and a system dump is "in the wild", devs will cook ROMs like crazy!
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doop - I think so after week it will be new rom here.
ceo.mtcl - Why? It looks phenomenal!
jjhiza - I agree with you
Is ICS's native GUI hardware accelerated by GPU?? From the demo, it doesn't seems perfectly smooth to me. Although Android 3.x was promoted as hardware accelerated GUI, I still find it very laggy scrolling through the homepages when there are some widgets. Putting it besides iPads, it's really a negative to Android.
Not supposed to say this maybe, but I'm underwhelmed by the UI in ICS. Had the same feeling about much of Honeycomb, really.
The UI is looking more and more Metro-like and ultra minimalist to the point of absurdity with every iteration. :shudder:
Flame away, but Gingerbread looks far better to me aesthetically. Give me the under the hood fixes, better multiprocessor support, etc. , but leave what works alone, IMO. If I wanted a Win-doze phone 7 device, I'd buy one.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/google-confirms-nexus-s-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich-for-real/
Hi, can I know WHEN I will install Android 4.0 on my Galaxy S2?
one month.... two months...or more?
Thank you very much
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Hi, can I know WHEN I will install Android 4.0 on my Galaxy S2?
one month.... two months...or more?
Thank you very much
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9 months.
No but really that's a question only Samsung can answer. We have the SDK but we need a system dump and even then who knows what hurdles we have to jump to get it to function properly.
Just keep an eye on various development sections.
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9 months.
No but really that's a question only Samsung can answer. We have the SDK but we need a system dump and even then who knows what hurdles we have to jump to get it to function properly.
Just keep an eye on various development sections.
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We have already a system dump
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...am-sandwich-galaxy-nexus-system-app-dump.html
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9 months.
No but really that's a question only Samsung can answer. We have the SDK but we need a system dump and even then who knows what hurdles we have to jump to get it to function properly.
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Earlier with cyanogenmod I would say And I am not looking for anything else because ics will be gimped to death by touchwiz
Okay, so we've already seen Ice Cream Sandwich running on the Nexus S, but that was decidedly... unofficial. We've just heard straight from Google's Gabe Cohen that the Nexus S will definitely be getting ICS. In fact, both he and Matias Duarte think most Gingerbread devices will see an upgrade, saying: "Currently in the process for releasing Ice Cream Sandwich for Nexus S. Theoretically should work for any 2.3 device." It's hardly a surprise and there's no specific word on timing just yet, but hopefully it won't take long to move that vanilla Android device up to something with a breaded exterior.
I guess that would be a yes, I can't see Samsung not updating a hugely popular handset (which has yet to have a real update) but I can not see them doing it anytime soon unless they drop the 2.3.5 update like they did with 2.3.4 to look at ICS.
As you know for Google phones it's immediately but for other brand it takes some time. Personally I think it will be after 3 or more months for official Samsung ROM.
They'll want to sell Galaxy Nexus for Christmas, but I don't expect Samsung to release for the SGS2 until New Year.
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9 months.
No but really that's a question only Samsung can answer. We have the SDK but we need a system dump and even then who knows what hurdles we have to jump to get it to function properly.
Just keep an eye on various development sections.
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ARE YOU SERIOUS? 9 months? In 9 months Samsung ships Galaxy S4 with Android 5.0...
But system dump of Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Nexus?
Have we have to wait the Samsung official 4.0 firmware for S2?
Android 2.3.5 was out on July and Samsung official 2.3.5 for S2 was out in October... It takes 3 months, pheraps 4 monts, not 9...
<rumour>SGS2 will get ICS faster than you think. </rumour>
what can we do with the system dump that has been posted?
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<rumour>SGS2 will get ICS faster than you think. </rumour>
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Thanks, any additional info on that "rumor"?
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<rumour>SGS2 will get ICS faster than you think. </rumour>
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Of course it will kids...as soon as this stuff is out in the wild there'll be buggy stuff, and then good stuff. Wasn't the firmware for the SGS2 out before the phone was?
Everybody say:
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see the calm waters rippling on a sandy beach
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Any word yet on a solid release date for ICS on the Xperia S?
UPDATED ICS FAQ!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26376219&postcount=998
(updated 22 may)
To avoid 1500 threads being created around this same thing I have created this thread as the official ICS discussion thread for the Xperia S.
I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,
you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .
even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony
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I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,
you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .
even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony
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We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update
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They don't say that ICS release will be end March early April ?
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They don't say that ICS release will be end March early April ?
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Yea, I read that as well. In fact, I read it on that Playstation news app last night
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We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update
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i 2nd that.
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We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update
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I totally get what you say, but you don't want to wait for ages to put an outdated but optimized OS on your phone? I hope for some BETA tester ROM release from Sony on Xperia S forum as well.
I'm not sure we have to wait all that much longer...
They said it can be end of March/early April, I would assume they would try and release it around then, or at least that beta you speak of. I don't think Sony wants to adopt SE's update reputation, so I would hope they would release it around when they said they will release it.
Jelly Bean is in the works, sure, but it's all down to rumors at the moment to when it will be actually released. If we are one update behind for awhile, I don't really care as long as it's optimized for the phone, and not some half-baked, rushed OS port.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/28/android-5-release-date-jelly-bean_n_1306952.html
I will say that coming from a Nexus S which was running CM9 (ICS), the interface Sony has put on top of Gingerbread does a great job. I thought I'd hate taking the step back but other than a few little bits, it's not that big of a difference. Things like the themed progress bars and buttons really remove some of the ugliness that GB still had.
Don't get me wrong, I am VERY excited about ICS on this device but I don't miss ICS as much as I thought I would. I can certainly hold on for a few weeks.
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I totally get what you say, but you don't want to wait for ages to put an outdated but optimized OS on your phone? I hope for some BETA tester ROM release from Sony on Xperia S forum as well.
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For the general public, beta roms with problems can cause much more damage reputation-wise (aka "this phone sucks, it crashes all the time lol").
Also, I like how Asus has pushed fast ICS releases for the Transformer, but it does not yet have the stability of the previous HC version. Picking up your tablet/phone for a 3 minutes read and seeing it reboot spontaneously is not that great
So I prefer Sony to be a bit late and get a good ICS release at the first try. And when it comes to the Arc/Arc S, we will know the XPS version will be close
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For the general public, beta roms with problems can cause much more damage reputation-wise (aka "this phone sucks, it crashes all the time lol").
Also, I like how Asus has pushed fast ICS releases for the Transformer, but it does not yet have the stability of the previous HC version. Picking up your tablet/phone for a 3 minutes read and seeing it reboot spontaneously is not that great
So I prefer Sony to be a bit late and get a good ICS release at the first try. And when it comes to the Arc/Arc S, we will know the XPS version will be close
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What I would be suggesting is for them to work harder to hit the market at a right time with fully optimized upgrade. If they don't want loss of customer like what they did back in X10 time, they need to still work faster and base on 2011 model upgrade and what we saw, they are on a right track.
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What I would be suggesting is for them to work harder to hit the market at a right time with fully optimized upgrade. If they don't want loss of customer like what they did back in X10 time, they need to still work faster and base on 2011 model upgrade and what we saw, they are on a right track.
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How many brands have upgraded their lineup to ICS so far "at a right time and fully optimized"? If Sony delivers an upgrade before end of Q2 they're still in a comparable time with other brands unless all the others suddenly deliver it in the following 1-2 months, because so far only Samsung (that is the biggest Android manufacturer at the moment) is barely pointing to an imminent SGS2 upgrade (based on rumors, not even officially yet).
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I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,
you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .
even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony
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Here's your choice.
1.Be the first that has ICS.
2.Wait 2 more months and get a fully optimised ICS, totally optimised for your phone. That probably runs better than a HTC or Samsung on ICS with the same specs.
btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.
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Here's your choice.
2.Wait 2 more months and get a fully optimised ICS, totally optimised for your phone. That probably runs better than a HTC or Samsung on ICS with the same specs.
btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.
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I agree
Alien987 said:
How many brands have upgraded their lineup to ICS so far "at a right time and fully optimized"? If Sony delivers an upgrade before end of Q2 they're still in a comparable time with other brands unless all the others suddenly deliver it in the following 1-2 months, because so far only Samsung (that is the biggest Android manufacturer at the moment) is barely pointing to an imminent SGS2 upgrade (based on rumors, not even officially yet).
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Htc have already released ics for their sensation phones, also alot of manufacturers would have phones released next month with ics onboard.
I'm not buying the Xperia S until the ics update comes out, it just doesn't feel right to spend $600+ aud on a high end phone that comes with a 1.5 yrs old os that my current phone is running. If ics doesn't come out by april. I'm buying a new phone from the other manufacturers which does have ics.
Razje said:
btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.
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It is (probably more like xp to windows 7), just hw acceleration and support for the google chrome browser is reason enough for the upgrade.
ICS is the only reason I am upgrading from my n1
Well, thanks for all the comments up there ^^^.
I did the ICS upgrade that ZD did in arc board and have it on my arc and it was based on Vanilla ICS. I got the best battery and performance I have ever got on any android phone (owned 4 so far)
Second, optimization with Sony won't be there ever. While I agree there are lots of work with custom UI and setting and adding extra stuff that Sony does't with their on-top of OS thing, but if you pay attention, the OS on Xperia S 2.3.7 that should be optimized, its not even close to being optimized. Battery is like hell, I got rid of all the junk apps (bascially everything) and have nothing to run live, plus battery of this phone is bigger that arc (yes, screen is larger as well) but still not close even to arc.
I like to be optimist about this situation, but I was more hoping for a Beta version so maybe our beloved developers could make something out of it.
You guys don't worry, I won't be waiting for Sony to release its optimized ICS since I really don't care about the UI.
I hope I didn't go over board since we are all here to have fun.
ko0l said:
Htc have already released ics for their sensation phones, also alot of manufacturers would have phones released next month with ics onboard.
I'm not buying the Xperia S until the ics update comes out, it just doesn't feel right to spend $600+ aud on a high end phone that comes with a 1.5 yrs old os that my current phone is running. If ics doesn't come out by april. I'm buying a new phone from the other manufacturers which does have ics.
It is (probably more like xp to windows 7), just hw acceleration and support for the google chrome browser is reason enough for the upgrade.
ICS is the only reason I am upgrading from my n1
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You mean the Sensation ICS update officially released only in a couple of countries with bugs as idiot as links not opening in the browser?
If your priority is having ICS and Jelly Bean when released ASAP your only real option is a Nexus Galaxy. As of today Android is still a train wreck when it comes to OEM updates...
you people should look at SGSII forums.People are complaining about the rushed ICS official update.
Hi there,
i am about to buy a new phone sooner or later.
My old SGS III (I9300) is still running quite fine (thx to the dev´s in here), but after 2,5 years i looks kinda awfull by now because of the bad build quality (cheap plastic crap) of the body.
So the next should have better build quality = metal frame if pos.
So i figured out 2-3 possible phones:
Samsung Galaxy Alpha or Samsung Galaxy A5 (wont be released in the US/Canada as far as i know)
As an alternative:
Phicomm Passion
The most important point for me is the longtime community support from CM,Omni, etc. This tbh is the only reason i still use and can use my quite old S3. And i can´t even tell you how much i hate Touchwiz and crap UI´s like this.
Might it be easier to get a good working CM for the A5 because it will have a Snapdragon 400 or 410. I often read about Samsungs Exynos making it hard to develop for.
So do you got any thoughts what device will have the better community support? Yeah crappy question i know, just wanna hear your thoughts
greetings from germany
Phil
rorian said:
Hi there,
i am about to buy a new phone sooner or later.
My old SGS III (I9300) is still running quite fine (thx to the dev´s in here), but after 2,5 years i looks kinda awfull by now because of the bad build quality (cheap plastic crap) of the body.
So the next should have better build quality = metal frame if pos.
So i figured out 2-3 possible phones:
Samsung Galaxy Alpha or Samsung Galaxy A5 (wont be released in the US/Canada as far as i know)
As an alternative:
Phicomm Passion
The most important point for me is the longtime community support from CM,Omni, etc. This tbh is the only reason i still use and can use my quite old S3. And i can´t even tell you how much i hate Touchwiz and crap UI´s like this.
Might it be easier to get a good working CM for the A5 because it will have a Snapdragon 400 or 410. I often read about Samsungs Exynos making it hard to develop for.
So do you got any thoughts what device will have the better community support? Yeah crappy question i know, just wanna hear your thoughts
greetings from germany
Phil
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A5 is midranger sd410 , don't go for it .
U can't compare Alpha with A5 , go for Alpha / iphone 5s/i6 / Wait for S6 / htc M9
Touchwiz of Alpha is fine , i had moto G before and hated stock android very much .
kktkaran said:
A5 is midranger sd410 , don't go for it .
U can't compare Alpha with A5 , go for Alpha / iphone 5s/i6 / Wait for S6 / htc M9
Touchwiz of Alpha is fine , i had moto G before and hated stock android very much .
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Yeah i know the the Alpha has a stronger SoC, and is intended to be a flagship device. But tbh as long as the system runs smooth i dont give a damn at antutu scores and dont even play any games.
But i think the best precondition for a good longtime support from the community is a high popularity and alot of sold devices. Atleast i think thats the reason the SGS3 for example, is still up to date.
I dont really care about the support from the producers like Samsung, HTC, LG etc. They all do quite a bad job at holding their devices up to date. (Sony might be a exception) The community does this job alot better in my eyes.
As far as i can see it the Galaxy Alpha didnt sell this great and the active dev´s and roms are quite rare (sadly).
rorian said:
Yeah i know the the Alpha has a stronger SoC, and is intended to be a flagship device. But tbh as long as the system runs smooth i dont give a damn at antutu scores and dont even play any games.
But i think the best precondition for a good longtime support from the community is a high popularity and alot of sold devices. Atleast i think thats the reason the SGS3 for example, is still up to date.
I dont really care about the support from the producers like Samsung, HTC, LG etc. They all do quite a bad job at holding their devices up to date. (Sony might be a exception) The community does this job alot better in my eyes.
As far as i can see it the Galaxy Alpha didnt sell this great and the active dev´s and roms are quite rare (sadly).
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For long and good community support, this device is not it for various reasons example high price, battery performance, uncommon and exynos chipset.
leripe said:
For long and good community support, this device is not it for various reasons example high price, battery performance, uncommon and exynos chipset.
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I run a CM developer build and my battery lasts for 2-4 days. I never had a device with such good battery life. The exynos chipset is great, cause the modem is separated from the main system. They don't share any memory. So the modem can't access the android filesystem.
same hire,2-4 days moderate use
our phone is optimised as iphones
normaly coz we dont have every week to flash custom roms hehehe
rorian & leripe are quite right,
if you check Alpha's sub forum u will notice that is already half dead
that's sad cause Alpha is a truly strong device, will an excellent design.
It has its flaws -as all devices have-, but that's expected.
The phone went live on the market with a high price, because was directly compared with S5,
so customers expected the price to be lower than s5.
The competition was already high in this range with cheaper models.
Then finally sammie put the tombstone on the device by announcing the end of production.
The device is good , im happy to own it, and i would buy it again for sure, but it hurts when im
clicking in xda and see no interesting from the community, i blame 101% samsung for this, EPIC marketing/scheduling fail.
Sorry if my englisch isn't that good.
I'll get my Alpha tomorrow. I think the forum is quite dead at the moment because everyone is waiting for the release of the cyanogan mod custom rom. I hope that with the release of CM sooner or later (maybe with lollipop) more and more different custom roms will be made for our device.
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Ipmats said:
Sorry if my englisch isn't that good.
I'll get my Alpha tomorrow. I think the forum is quite dead at the moment because everyone is waiting for the release of the cyanogan mod custom rom. I hope that with the release of CM sooner or later (maybe with lollipop) more and more different custom roms will be made for our device.
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CM roms sucks ,
I love Stock touchwiz of Alpha .
Its king . Very fluid and fast and Has tons of features unlike other samsung phones which lags .
The reason behind why i choose Alpha over Nexus 5 is , i hate Stock android
kktkaran said:
CM roms sucks ,
I love Stock touchwiz of Alpha .
Its king . Very fluid and fast and Has tons of features unlike other samsung phones which lags .
The reason behind why i choose Alpha over Nexus 5 is , i hate Stock android
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You hate it, i love it, and the other way around. Just personal preferences. What i hate about Samsuns is just their update politics. They even got probs keeping their flagships up to date for longer than 1 year and even if they do, the updates are delayed for months.
Ipmats said:
Sorry if my englisch isn't that good.
I'll get my Alpha tomorrow. I think the forum is quite dead at the moment because everyone is waiting for the release of the cyanogan mod custom rom. I hope that with the release of CM sooner or later (maybe with lollipop) more and more different custom roms will be made for our device.
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Are they even working on an official cyanogemod 12 for alpha or is there any dev in here working on an unofficial port yet? If yes it would be great news and it would be a big argument to buy it over the A5.
rorian said:
You hate it, i love it, and the other way around. Just personal preferences. What i hate about Samsuns is just their update politics. They even got probs keeping their flagships up to date for longer than 1 year and even if they do, the updates are delayed for months.
Are they even working on an official cyanogemod 12 for alpha or is there any dev in here working on an unofficial port yet? If yes it would be great news and it would be a big argument to buy it over the A5.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-alpha/orig-development/sources-cyanogenmod-11-0-t2933305/ dev working on a unofficial port.
toms95 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-alpha/orig-development/sources-cyanogenmod-11-0-t2933305/ dev working on a unofficial port.
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hope it will be done soon
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dara007_168 said:
hope it will be done soon
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They at least have it running but probably have a ways to go. But im glad we have a devs working on it.
Since the Galaxy A5 ain't going to be launched in the US I shouldn't get my hopes up to see a custom ROM right?
Sterkriger said:
Since the Galaxy A5 ain't going to be launched in the US I shouldn't get my hopes up to see a custom ROM right?
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I wouldnt say so. Yes there are alot of dev´s out there who only take care of the US prime devices, but there are even more from all over the world working on all kind of devices.
kktkaran said:
CM roms sucks ,
I love Stock touchwiz of Alpha .
Its king . Very fluid and fast and Has tons of features unlike other samsung phones which lags .
The reason behind why i choose Alpha over Nexus 5 is , i hate Stock android
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That is funny I gave up my nexus 5 for the Alpha and I cannot be any happier, and Im a developer developing games for android and they run very nicely on my alpha also looking forward to the Lollipop update.
Here's Antutu Benchmark for Galaxy A5
I've just come from iPhone 6 then note 4 and then decided I wanted a smaller device but android so I purchased the alpha after looking into buying the a5 the alpha is a better device by far. I'm very happy with this only wish it was abut heavier and so slot that is all but for now I'm enjoying this little beast
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