Stereo speakers or mono? - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

Which one is with the prime?
The spec lists stereo, but I saw one speaker.
Or is it stereo only with the dock?
That's sucks....
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As far as I can gather, it's one speaker, but it sounds as good or better than any other tablet out there, with good sound volume. It fires out of the back on one side of the tablet.

If you read here, the official spec:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201/#specifications
It says stereo speakers ....
Misleading? Not true? Or with dock only?
One speaker is not stereo, nor mentioned as "speakers" ...

Stereo sound out of one speaker
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Why the heck you need speaker(s) for? you gonna listen pr0n on speakers or on your headset ?

Why couldn´t they just leave it the way it is with the TF101? Stereo speakers beneath one grill

Maybe we have only one grill but 2 speakers, one on each side.
Think about inital iPhone(s). They had no grills at all.
I don't think they would put "stereo" on their page if we have only one speaker...

Diamondback2010 said:
Maybe we have only one grill but 2 speakers, one on each side.
Think about inital iPhone(s). They had no grills at all.
I don't think they would put "stereo" on their page if we have only one speaker...
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?? Original iPhones DID have a speaker grill.. very bottom left or right.. otherside was for microphone. The speaker quality was just horrible and quiet.

It is monaural, as confirmed by Engadget's review, and they also criticized the poor speaker placement. Nor did they rave about the sound quality or volume -- they described it as only "quite good", when not blocked by your hand due to the location of the speaker grille.
Sorry folks, but to me the sound seems to have been downgraded to achieve the slimmer chassis. There's still a possibility it is louder, but that's about it.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-review/

The dock is supposed to have it's own set of speakers though, correct?

irishtexmex said:
The dock is supposed to have it's own set of speakers though, correct?
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The dock is rumored to have a subwoofer, although I've yet to see a post-launch review make that claim. It does NOT have stereo speakers, though.

From AndroidCentral
"The Prime touts having stereo speakers. But unlike in the Transformer and most other Android tablets we've used, they're only coming out of one section of the device. That means when you're holding the tablet in the normal landscape position, everything sounds like it's coming out the right-hand side of the device, because it is. It's a pretty disappointing change -- especially if you've used tablets with proper speakers."
Really disappointed with this, how could Asus not see/hear that it sucks to hear where the sound come from and that they also pointed the sound away from the user.
Xooms have speaker that point away from the user and that sucks if you compare to Galaxy tab that have the speakers on the sides.
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bd85 said:
From AndroidCentral
"The Prime touts having stereo speakers. But unlike in the Transformer and most other Android tablets we've used, they're only coming out of one section of the device. That means when you're holding the tablet in the normal landscape position, everything sounds like it's coming out the right-hand side of the device, because it is. It's a pretty disappointing change -- especially if you've used tablets with proper speakers."
Really disappointed with this, how could Asus not see/hear that it sucks to hear where the sound come from and that they also pointed the sound away from the user.
Xooms have speaker that point away from the user and that sucks if you compare to Galaxy tab that have the speakers on the sides.
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It is simply stupid from Asus

Base on Asus website :
http://eee.asus.com/en/eeepad/transformer-prime/specification/
Interface: PAD: 2-in-1 Audio Jack (Headphone / Mic-in); 1× micro HDMI port
1 × Micro SD Card Reader; 1 × Internal Microphone; 1 × Stereo Speaker
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So it looks like it is "stereo", but packed into one speaker / location.

timduru said:
So it looks like it is "stereo", but packed into one speaker / location.
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More likely, that's just poor translation. I doubt it's stereo speakers placed in one location -- it's vastly more likely that it is simply a single monaural speaker. We'll know oonce the first teardown is out.
The news continues to get worse: from the AndroidCentral comments:
"The speaker on the tablet itself is in a stupid place and it isn't especially loud (I could just barely hear it over the sound of my exercise bike, for example), and I haven't tried listening to music with or without the dock yet. It's on the list for today."
So all things considered, it apears that Transformer Prime sound is a major downgrade from the TF101. Not much louder, a worse speaker location, and mono instead of stereo. Hope you're happy now, all you people who whined about the size and weight of the TF101...

It doesn't matter what the specs says. The whole point of stereo output is to get channel separation, which isn't possible if both speakers are in same location.
For all practical purposes, audio is mono.

Here's another even more damning quote from AndroidCentral's review:
"it's a shame that the first Tegra 3 device to hit the market is lacking in basic audio quality. In other words: Use headphones or external speakers."
SonicMaster indeed. What. A. Joke.

To be fair, speaker output on tablets is a joke to start with. Fidelity is bad enough that stereo makes little difference. For decent stereo sound, use headphones or plug it into a TV.
BTW, someone mentioned the possibility of 7.1 audio through HDMI. I doubt it. Most movie rips use only the 5.1 core of the various HD audio flavors (DD EAC3, DD TrueHD, DTS-HR, DTS-MA). Playback support is sporadic even on PCs.
The mainstay for Android media players for now is ffmpeg. Per my last go-around, ffmpeg only supports EAC3, which is a fast-fading format. It doesn't support 7.1 FLAC (or 7.1 anything), which is what rippers use when they want to get HD audio.
Then, there's the HDMI-out. I'd be surprised if it even supports 5.1. Main bottleneck is the primitive state of Android media players, if not the hardware itself.

while its hard to say right now how it stacks up against other tablets/previous transformer its still disappointing they have the one speaker at such a bad location. The new redesigned galaxy tab 10.1n has two speakers front facing which would be ideal.

As pointed out in another thread by user 'sontin', there is at least a little workaround for movie watching on the TF201 which for some reason never occurred to me. If you turn the screen round 180 degrees, your hand shouldn't cover the speaker grille. Still a silly design, but this does at least partially improve things. Shame it's still mono, though...
Another post from AndroidPolice, btw, says that sound quality "pretty good" It does, however, refute earlier reviews that claimed there was a subwoofer in the dock -- accoding to AndroidPolice, there is no difference in sound when docked or undocked. That must mean either there's a problem with their review unit, or the subwoofer is in the tablet itself.

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Does the SGS2 sport 2 (two) speakers?

One thing that always bugged me with the SGS is that, with the help of Supercurio & hardcore, we got the use of some beautiful sounding earphone output but the speaker output was very poor.
Also, why always only one speaker? The SGWifi now has stereo speakers which should make them sound much better and the iPhone4 has them, but my question is: Does the SGS2 have dual speakers?
The only picture I've seen on the back has ONE speaker on the lower side but I can't see the other side.
Many thanks.
The product page on At&t states the captivated had dual speakers. Shrug
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I remember reading somewhere that it has dual speakers.....
Problem is I cant remember where I read it now.
I would think one speaker is the norm, especially on super-thin smartphones. The stereo speakers on my Nokia 6233 five years ago were awesome.
Dont forget you phone aint no ghettoblaster!
It wont sound good no matter how many or what kind of speakers you put in there... At least to someone who has sensible ears. It should be loud enough so it wakes you up in the morning and so you hear when someone sent you an sms/calls you.
The only use of dual speakers is to annoy other people in a public settings - I'd rather have a thinner/lighter/cheaper smartphone than such a useless feature.
I really HATE people who use phone speakers in public transportation. If I wanted to hear their music I would put it on my phone Only feature it is good for is for your notification sound/ringtone or in private situations.
Don't forget that what you want or don't want doesn't always apply to what other people want or don't want. I would love to see dual speakers to get a little more clarity and a little more volume. There are several times that I've used my phone to play music in a group setting because, while the speaker isn't the best, it's the best we had. For example, Tuesday nights are poker night. I'll probably throw my phone on Pandora just to play some background music.
rwj5279955 said:
The product page on At&t states the captivated had dual speakers. Shrug
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my old HTC had dual speaker, and it delivered real stereo instead of monofied stereo on the standard single speakers phones
KLoNe1 said:
... has stereo speakers ... and the iPhone4 has them ...
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It has two speaker apertures but only one speaker.
If anyone finds a link or a pic with some more info; please post.

best portable speakers for the transformer

hey guys i have look around the forums for the best portable speakers for the transformer but i have not found the information i am looking for
since you all know the TF speakers aren't the best i am looking for small perhaps battery operated speakers for my TF, now i have looked at the speakers people have mentioned in other threads but i am not sure if the sound on those particular speakers are any better then the ones the TF because the speakers some one may use on a phone may be quieter then one may use on a tablet
so if you guys could recommend some speakers perhaps around 20 bucks that would be great but if its more then is ok to
thanks in advance
hard to beat the x-mini II capsule speaker @£13 shipped from amazon uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generation-Capsule-iPhone-Laptop-Speaker/dp/B001UEBN42
you can daisychain multiple units or do what i do and use a stereo splitter and 2 speakers to get stereo output, but even using just one it beats the TF speakers (and most laptops) comfortably for volume and delivers superior audio quality including decent bass response.
Look up "foxLv2 Portable Bluetooth Speakers" on Amazon.
(Sorry not alowed to put url being a new member )
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I just received Monster ClarityHD Precision Micro Bluetooth Speaker from amazon. Overall, its a pretty good speakers for the price $70.00 I was amazing at how far the range was. My tablet was 30 feet away from the speakers and it was still able to pull in the sound without any issues. There are buttons on the speaker that will let you could adjust the volume and also switch tracks. There is also a 3.5mm audio input jack which you could use instead of using bluetooth. The sound is pretty good. Much better then the speakers on the TF. Overall, I am pretty happy with the purchase. At first when I was trying to pair the speakers with my tablet I kept on getting FC with Prime 1.6. I eventually had to do a data wipe in order to get it to sync.
I got these a week or so ago. They put out pretty good quality sound considering the price and are very portable and cheap.
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=1153862&pid=1218227994156
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X-Mini II Capsule Speaker
theabsurdman said:
hard to beat the x-mini II capsule speaker @£13 shipped from amazon uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generation-Capsule-iPhone-Laptop-Speaker/dp/B001UEBN42
you can daisychain multiple units or do what i do and use a stereo splitter and 2 speakers to get stereo output, but even using just one it beats the TF speakers (and most laptops) comfortably for volume and delivers superior audio quality including decent bass response.
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I've received mine yesterday and I'm really really impressed about the volume and the sound quality for so little speakers..also very good the bass response..
I've bought only one to try it (13£ shipped from amazon uk) but I think I will buy at least another!
I recommend this one to everyone!!
I went with this one http://www.amazon.com/iHome-iHM60GT...733E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1318962556&sr=8-3. It gets pretty loud and bass response is pretty good for such a small speaker. I picked mine up at Target so I could just return it if I didn't like it, but I like
When I connect BT speakers and watch video with DICE player it will slow down to an absolute slo-mo with no sound. Nobody else have that problem using BT speakers?

[Q] Speaker Sound Quality Issue?

Disclaimer: I did search in the forum and did not see this question asked or answered.
First off I LOVE my prime. I thought my only issue was really just a small amount of light bleed in one spot and I could live with that. So I synced my iTune music to my prime and cranked up a tune. To my surprise I noticed a rattling in the speaker that I had not noticed when playing games or watching movies. Thinking it was just a bad song I picked out one that I knew I purchased through iTunes that played great on an iPhone and other devices. Turned it on and though it is mostly ok you can hear distortion in the speaker even when the volume is turned up only 75%. Next I placed the Prime in the dock and the sound became somewhat hollow and the distortion was even more noticeable. It is interesting how the sound changes when placed in the dock. I removed the Prime from the dock and plugged it into the charging cable and the sound did not change as it did when docked. Just to be sure it was not my iTunes music I downloaded a free song from the Market and it performed the same as my iTune music with some distortion. With a headset, however, the music is great.
I have read where others compliment the sound from the speaker and say the dock makes it deeper and better in some ways. I don't expect this to be a high fidelity audio system but I didn't expect to hear the speaker have tones that rattled somewhat like a paper speaker with a small tear.
Just curious if anyone else has experienced this and it is normal or if I am the unlucky guy with a defective speaker. I am undecided on whether to: 1) exchange with Best Buy 2) RMA with Asus or just ignore it as I will normally use headphones if listening to music and alerts and games sound decent so far.
All input welcome.
I listen to alot of music on my prime and have never heard the speakers cracking...
I am also using an app to enhance the speakers (volume +) makes it a lot louder and less tin can like sounding.
Sorry to hear about your speakers crackling, does not sound normal. I don't have a dock so i cannot test what your talking about.
This goes in the Q & A Forum.. Did you search there?
Three threads above this one...
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This goes in the Q & A Forum.. Did you search there?
Three threads above this one...
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You are correct. I inadvertently posted this in the wrong place. I was bouncing between different forums trying to research. Is there a way to have a mod move it ? My apologies.
Well I am not sure what kind of audio you'd expect from mobile devices, but I would call myself kinda audiophil with a rather large home cinema system at home and the Prime is the first mobile device I own and the first I've seen (heard),
where I actually want to listen to music with it.
My Prime has outstanding speakers for that size. I totally love it. So maybe you got a broken speaker (it has actually stereo speakers, so maybe one is broken?)
Ah and I use Volume+ too raise the Volume.
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Well I am not sure what kind of audio you'd expect from mobile devices, but I would call myself kinda audiophil with a rather large home cinema system at home and the Prime is the first mobile device I own and the first I've seen (heard),
where I actually want to listen to music with it.
My Prime has outstanding speakers for that size. I totally love it. So maybe you got a broken speaker (it has actually stereo speakers, so maybe one is broken?)
Ah and I use Volume+ too raise the Volume.
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Glad to hear Volume+ working for you. it really does wonders for the speakers. a lot of times now my Prime be too loud. especially when playing the games. I mean its VERY LOUD now. stereo system loud..lol j/k but its loud as a mofo though
demandarin said:
Glad to hear Volume+ working for you. it really does wonders for the speakers. a lot of times now my Prime be too loud. especially when playing the games. I mean its VERY LOUD now. stereo system loud..lol j/k but its loud as a mofo though
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Yea, start a great action film, put the prime next to a solid wall/thing/whatever, max out the volume and enjoy the brachial sound
Can't stress often enough how impressed I am by the sound Makes me sound like a super fanboy
Unfortunately, regardless the song at full volume my speaker sound over driven the way it is. When in the dock it also sound hollow. Definitely sound different in and out of the dock. Funny thing is I really don't hear the distortion with games or movies only songs.
I called Best Buy and they show them unavailable on their system and I didn't really want to return it to them anyway since it is otherwise great so I will test more and decide if I want to have Asus take a look at it at some point. If so I have a small spot of light bleed they can take care of. Either way I LOVE this device and truth be told I use earbuds or headset 80% of the time anyway. Just the fact that I want it right.
Thank you for the comments.

Very nice bluetooth speaker

Just wanted to say that I bought this external bluetooth speaker, in search of a good one. I've tried several and this one is damn good for the price. For just less then $80 you can't go wrong. It really makes you wonder why the Jambox is over $150. It is a joke really.
Monster ClarityHD portable speaker $77
Comes with a nice case too.
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-MBL-CLY-SPKR-BT/dp/B003TFEHMU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332992852&sr=8-1
Over priced Jambox $188
http://www.amazon.com/Jawbone-JAMBO...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1332993015&sr=1-1
Monster makes a product that is NOT the most ridiculously priced in it's segment???? WOW!!!
That's awesome that you found that speaker. My buddy has a jambox (xmas gift) and swears by it - but yea, that's STEEP!
sharkfinmoy said:
I liked the Jambox enough to get yet another one for a lower price, a refurbished Jambox, from the Jawbone website...traveled with me on vacation.
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Just checked the jawbone website and the refurbished jambox is $129.
sharkfinmoy said:
Just checked the jawbone website and the refurbished jambox is $129.
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Not sure what a refurb Jambox has to do with anything but it still even $50 more then the Monster model. ?????. Hey, I bet a refurb Monster model is $40. I don't understand your comment.
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opentoe said:
Not sure what a refurb Jambox has to do with anything but it still even $50 more then the Monster model. ?????. Hey, I bet a refurb Monster model is $40. I don't understand your comment.
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An FYI for anyone who might be interested in a Jambox. Not saying it is better or less expensive than a Monster. Peace. Out.
I have a Logitech Mini Boombox, which costs about the same, but is much better looking.
Can't really compare the sound quality of course, as I don't have the Monster, but the Logitech is very good.
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I have 2 monster ClarityHD bluetooth speakers. I highly recommend them to anyone looking for a bluetooth speaker. I've owned a jambox too I returned it cause it was too quite. The monster is louder than the jambox after a firmware update to the jambox, you can disable the feature of the new update but you sacrafice quality for loudness.
Amazon has the ClarityHD for $49.99 right now. Very tempted to get one.
I use the Satechi BT Wireless Portable Speaker.. dig it
I use a cy-fi. The company went under a while ago due to retail price i would expect but it is tough, loud, clear, and works well with all of my bluetooth capable devices.
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brought a monster clarity hd after reading this thread
it's paired ok however when playing movies I get "no media content" under bluetooth settings and silence from the clarity hd??
any ideas
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Fixed the above. It needed to be turned off and then back on after the first pair.
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Next question = Is there a way to get rid of the horrible delay from sound to video or are all bluetooth devices audio lag creators?.
I use the iHome iDM12 bluetooth portable. It just fits in my pocket while I'm at work. (I have loose pockets, wouldn't work in jeans). Its got exceptional sound for such a small package. Sure they pander to Apple but it works fine on Android and its only $69. I've never had the battery go dead on me yet so I don't know how long it lasts. I play about 5 hours steady and charge it nightly most of the time. Even the couple of times I forgot to charge it, it lasted through the next shift just fine.
https://www.ihomeaudio.com/iDM12BX/
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brought a monster clarity hd after reading this thread
it's paired ok however when playing movies I get "no media content" under bluetooth settings and silence from the clarity hd??
any ideas
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I don't know where the audio lags comes from or what causes it. Some times I'll get audio lag too, then other times it will be just perfect. I wish I knew what causes it. If anything I would suggest it is the Prime tablet not being able to process efficiently or something. Hard to tell.
Thanks for the find. I must just get this.
To users THST have this speaker and volume+ installed: you know you can go into volume+ and increase the volume boost and bass, on BT audio devices, to make this speaker alot louder. Has anyone tried this yet and how loud was it?
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I use the Satechi BT Wireless Portable Speaker.. dig it
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I have the Satechi pocket version ($30 2 watts with 3.5 mm audio jack). I like it a lot but am looking for more power and richer sound. This BT version looks like it could fill the bill. How many watts?
Also the Kinivo BTX110 Wireless Bluetooth Mini Portable Speaker likes like a knock-off of the Satechi BT. Has anybody trtied this one and how does it compare?
I understand that the Asus TFP has the Wolfson Class W headphone amplifier but some kernals do not yet support it. The Samsung Fascinate also has Wolson Class W and I have the Voodoo Sound Plus app on both my rooted Samsing and my rooted Asus TFP. My rooted Samsung has a kernel with the required driver supporting the extended sound controls but my Asus TFP does not. Voodoo Sound Plus makes a big difference in sound quality between my Fascinate and Asus TFP. It's all about the kernal having the required drivers.
I've always wanted to hear the monster speaker, but at this point I just decided to go for the gusto. Instead of spending 30 here or 60 here like I've been doing.
here's the list of bluetooth speakers I've got and used.
-veho 360 -(battery doesnt seem to hold enough of a charge.. or some other short.. Sounds like crap now, but was very nice for a very short time for what it is.)
http://www.amazon.com/Veho-VSS-006-...94/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1335197474&sr=8-16
-x3 -(generic.. alright for a single speaker, Still the go to for ultra portable needs after the veho crapped out.Rechargeable battery)
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Min...GC/ref=sr_1_60?ie=UTF8&qid=1335197366&sr=8-60
-Altec Lansing t515 - (looks ok.. sounds ok.. Never use it though. AA batteries)
http://www.amazon.com/Altec-Lansing...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335197617&sr=1-1
-Altec Lansing Soundblade - (Best one I've had so far, definately the loudest and the most sound. but when turned up to loud, you get static and they distort. Typical altec lansing sound not real refined, eats AA batteries.)
http://www.alteclansing.com/speakers-for-ipod-iphone/soundblade-imt525/invt/imt525/
I recently went into a Bose store, after seeing reviews on their bluetooth speaker. And I'm not a fan of Bose. They are overpriced and generally there are better alternatives for less money.
I listened to the soundlink in the store and immediately i knew i had to have one.
should arrive today and it makes all these other speakers sound like cans tied together with string.
Yes it's expensive, but even if you look through the 4 i've had, they are cheaper now then ever.. I've probably spent over 200 on them. So that 300 dollar price tag that absolutely blows all the others out of the water doesn't look so bad.
And the best part is, you can go to a best buy or bose store and listen to it.. Hell, take your prime and pair it up and play your own music. You won't want anything else at that point. Aside from an ultra portable. I will still use the x3 for some traveling because it will fit in a smaller bag.
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Just wanted to say that I bought this external bluetooth speaker, in search of a good one. I've tried several and this one is damn good for the price. For just less then $80 you can't go wrong. It really makes you wonder why the Jambox is over $150. It is a joke really.
Monster ClarityHD portable speaker $77
Comes with a nice case too.
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-MBL-CLY-SPKR-BT/dp/B003TFEHMU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332992852&sr=8-1
Over priced Jambox $188
http://www.amazon.com/Jawbone-JAMBO...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1332993015&sr=1-1
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I had the ClarityHD then I returned it to get the Jambox.... The Jam Box is WAY BETTER
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regalpimpin said:
I recently went into a Bose store, after seeing reviews on their Bluetooth speaker. And I'm not a fan of Bose. They are overpriced and generally there are better alternatives for less money.
I listened to the sound link in the store and immediately i knew i had to have one.
should arrive today and it makes all these other speakers sound like cans tied together with string.
Yes it's expensive, but even if you look through the 4 I've had, they are cheaper now then ever.. I've probably spent over 200 on them. So that 300 dollar price tag that absolutely blows all the others out of the water doesn't look so bad.
And the best part is, you can go to a best buy or Bose store and listen to it.. Hell, take your prime and pair it up and play your own music. You won't want anything else at that point. Aside from an ultra portable. I will still use the x3 for some traveling because it will fit in a smaller bag.
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I completely agree with you on the Bose sound link. I picked one up over spring break at the beach and I love it. Yes it is expensive but you can't beat Bose at sound quality. The best part is i can pair my transformer and my phone and my laptop all very quickly.
The thing that surprised me the most about it was the base response. I am astonished as to the deep rich sound that it produces from such a small package.
Another point of interest is the folding cover / stand. It acts like the smart cover on the iPad. When you close it the speaker automatically turns off.
There is also a line in jack for any device you have that may not be Bluetooth capable as well.
I've found the battery life to be somewhere around 12 hours for standard use. This tapers off the louder you like your music of course.
Best of all I managed to get a refurbished one that was a wopping $75 cheaper.
What I use for a bluetooth speaker is a Sony HWS-BTA2W bluetooth receiver/transmitter, with standard powered speakers plugged into it. The Sony can be used as either a transmitter or a receiver, depending on what devices you have. I usually use it as a receiver, paired to my Prime, or phone, or even my laptop with a Jabra bluetooth transmitter connected to the headphone jack, and just plug standard powered speakers into it. I get good stereo, good sound, and the Sony isn't expensive. If you shop around, you can get one for ~$50, and you probably have some powered speakers on hand anyway.
There is always a delay with bluetooth. I had the bright idea to use bluetooth as a connection between my guitar and my amp, so I could connect wirelessly, and not have the cord to mess with. It's unusable, since there is a pronounced delay between the time you pluck the string and the sound coming out of the amp. The delay is almost a second, and it makes playing too much of a problem to deal with. I see the delay sometimes when I'm connected to the Sony with my phone or my Prime. They play a short sound when an email arrives, and it comes both through the internal speaker and through the bluetooth connection. The sound from the internal speaker is heard almost a second before the same sound comes from the speakers connected to the bluetooth connection.
Since there have been reports of issues with wi-fi in combination with bluetooth I'm wondering if you guys are experiencing problems using the bluethooth speaker while using wi-fi??
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Why still no USB audio?

Seriously...I want USB audio support for my damn phone already... Do I really have to sell my galaxy note, and get a damn iphone for this feature that should've been here YEARS AGO?
Our phones have the worst DSP/DAC ever...
Every post I have seen of yours has just been *****ing and moaning about this phone... not once have I seen a productive/informative/helpful post from you.
why don't you just sell it already and go back to drinking apple koolaid then?
LOL
Why not just use a 3.5 mm aux wire for music and leave the usb for charging in the car? Problem solved. Although, you would have to change tracks on the phone instead of the car's head unit. There are requests to google since a year ago, we might see it in Jellybean.
I agree, *****ing and moaning wont do much. If you cant stand having this device, sell it and get something else.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
go bluetooth bro. it works awesomely
Explain how I said everything about the phone sucks?
Btw, I'm an audiophile. The DAC in our phone garbage. How is it so much to ask for a USB external DAC option for my phone? Iphones had this feature before they had MMS. You say i drjnk Apple koolaid whdn i sold m iPad to get this phone?? SAMSUNG's specs said this phone had USB HOST 2.0... I bought it thinking that I'd be able to use a USB DAC with ICS which was shpposed to be released for our phone MONTHS AGO. Is Apple se, retly paying google to not have USB DACs available for android? How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi. The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out. Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem. This is retarded that we dont have this simple feature.
Btw this is the only thing that really would make buying this phone a dealbreaker for me. I cant ever go back to Apple but I'd like to have my phone have the ABILITY to produce lossless audio and do NOT tell me how MP3 isn't lossless because i know this. I plan on acessing VLC flac files from my home network in the future.
This is in the top 10 issues of google's entire list and they respond by saying basically if someone codes it for them then they might look i to it. They MIGHT... Are you kidding? Most audiophiles who have iphone would switch over for a droid and USB DAC in a heartbeat. Apple would lose a couple hundred thousand customers for writing a few lines of code for ICS...
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To answer the subject line, it hasn't been coded yet.
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I have the same issues with the phone as you. There are things I love about the iPhone and there are things I love about the Note. The Note wins for now.
c0reyl said:
Explain how I said everything about the phone sucks?
Btw, I'm an audiophile. The DAC in our phone garbage. How is it so much to ask for a USB external DAC option for my phone? Iphones had this feature before they had MMS. You say i drjnk Apple koolaid whdn i sold m iPad to get this phone?? SAMSUNG's specs said this phone had USB HOST 2.0... I bought it thinking that I'd be able to use a USB DAC with ICS which was shpposed to be released for our phone MONTHS AGO. Is Apple se, retly paying google to not have USB DACs available for android? How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi. The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out. Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem. This is retarded that we dont have this simple feature.
Btw this is the only thing that really would make buying this phone a dealbreaker for me. I cant ever go back to Apple but I'd like to have my phone have the ABILITY to produce lossless audio and do NOT tell me how MP3 isn't lossless because i know this. I plan on acessing VLC flac files from my home network in the future.
This is in the top 10 issues of google's entire list and they respond by saying basically if someone codes it for them then they might look i to it. They MIGHT... Are you kidding? Most audiophiles who have iphone would switch over for a droid and USB DAC in a heartbeat. Apple would lose a couple hundred thousand customers for writing a few lines of code for ICS...
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Since Google wont code it, Your only option now is to get an iPhone. Best of Luck to ya.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/droid/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/
Besides a DIY project, may try the MHL-microHDMI link to and audio input. Most manufacturers don't seem interested in making anything but apple's 30pin audio components. My Pioneer Dual Din Bluetooth Car Stereo has a USB out the works with Note. Have to use the phone to control it though.
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Sell it and shut the effin up already and quit wasting space on this forum
I love my Note, but I keep an old ipod permanently connected in my car just for music. And I have my old iphone 3G, which is only worth $50 at best, is attached to my hi-fi system at home.
Who says you have to do everything with one device? If the Note doesn't do what you want, keep your note and buy something else to do the other job. Just my $0.02.
i'm no genius - but doesn't the MHL adapter provide HDMI audio out?
wouldn't that imply that you CAN get HiFi audio out to your AVR or amp ?
then again, what do i know
If you are this anal about high end sound use store bought CDs. That or a record player and you won't need a DAC.
I love audio way more than anyone I know and I stream blue tooth audio from my phone.. Is it the best sound? No but it gets the job done. If you want high end you need to right equipment. Sadly the Galaxy note doesn't currently have the ability to do this.
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What pisses me off is the only thing stopping the note from doing this is a few lines of code for USB audio.
And the note doesn't even support HDMI audio out..
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What pisses me off is the only thing stopping the note from doing this is a few lines of code for USB audio.
And the note doesn't even support HDMI audio out..
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Few lines of code? Hahaha. Yes, just a few lines, that's all...
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How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi.
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Not really correct. Using the original BT compression algorithm, SBC, you get the equivalent of a high-bitrate MP3 - a maximum of 768kbit/s shared between channels and overhead so probably closer to a 256 MP3. There is a newer compression algorithm apt-X which provides lower latency and even higher quality at 384kbit/s. Overhead isn't included in that bitrate so that is the actual throughput on the audio channels. Not lossless (if that is your definition of "HiFi"), but you would have to do a side-by-side comparison to nitpick out the very minor differences.
The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out.
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Incorrect. The voltage levels between the mini plug and line out are compatible. Keep the volume down a bit to keep the voltage down and you are fine.
Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem.
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TOSLINK on a phone. Right. NEXT!
My Onkyo TX-NR616 Receiver plays off my notes usb cord just fine. Just go into USB Storage Mode.
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My Onkyo TX-NR616 Receiver plays off my notes usb cord just fine. Just go into USB Storage Mode.
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I will confirm this works for my Pioneer and Jensen HU's in my vehicles, as well as my XBOX360. Only downfall is you have to use your audio device to choose your tracks. It gets the job done.
Sounds like OP needs a custom Bose system for his car, and a Galaxy iNote.
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Few lines of code? Hahaha. Yes, just a few lines, that's all...
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It may have been a bit of an understatement, but considering that windows is something like 62 million lines of code, a simple driver for enabling usb audio when we already have USB host 2.0 wouldn't be very much in comparison, when it should have been implemented in the first place..
Honestly, if anyone gets full linux to ever work on the note, I'm going to use that and never look back if USB audio works with it, and has s-pen support to control the mouse. I'm pretty sure that would happen LONG before android ever gets universal usb audio.
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Not really correct. Using the original BT compression algorithm, SBC, you get the equivalent of a high-bitrate MP3 - a maximum of 768kbit/s shared between channels and overhead so probably closer to a 256 MP3. There is a newer compression algorithm apt-X which provides lower latency and even higher quality at 384kbit/s. Overhead isn't included in that bitrate so that is the actual throughput on the audio channels. Not lossless (if that is your definition of "HiFi"), but you would have to do a side-by-side comparison to nitpick out the very minor differences.
Incorrect. The voltage levels between the mini plug and line out are compatible. Keep the volume down a bit to keep the voltage down and you are fine.
TOSLINK on a phone. Right. NEXT!
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I actually thought that bluetooth audio had less bitrate, but I want the capability for lossless audio streaming from my home network using FLAC files, and the ability to watch blu ray stored on my pc over LTE would be badass as well, without audio comprimise.
Integrating TOSLINK hidden inside our headphone jack isn't has hard as you think. Many RCA and 3.5mm connectors have toslink hidden inside them from laptops and other devices, my sound card has it in the RCA SPDIF out. All they would need to do is make a proprietary android plastic mold adapter which being slightly different shaped than a headphone jack, would activate the TOSLINK switch inside the headphone jack and allow it to be on only by plugging the proprietary adapter inside, saving battery. TOSLINK can't be affected by EMF interuption. If this started happening, many things in the mobile market would change. Apple would lose hundreds of thousands of customers from the audio quality standpoint alone, more audiophiles would emerge from everywhere. Speaker development would increase exponentially. Hifi iPod docks would include TOSLINK. High end headphones would start coming with portable amps with Line Out, TOSLINK, and other options. It would be the easiest way to connect to a home theater system for high end audio. more people would be making their desktops a home server with all the audio stored on it able to stream over LTE. More people would be interested in FLAC and better bitrates. OTher companies would be profiting, driving BOSE into the ground. Companies like JMLAB, Legacy, Theil, Velodyne, Celestian, PSB, Focal, and many other high end companies who deserve more market.
I think it's a little stupid that on a device with a screen as nice as ours, we have little to no audio options available, when audio should have been the first concern in order to manipulate the market. Almost nobody who owns our phone even realizes just how good the display actually is. The black levels on our screen surpass almost any TV ever made, even if the colors aren't perfect. For example, I have a 55 inch 720p Sony Rear projection triple LCD panel tv with less pixels then my phone screen. The black levels on the phone DESTROY my tv, even if the colors aren't near as good on the phone, for cinema, it looks way better a foot from my face than optimal viewing distance with the HDTV. and, the colors on the HDTV surpass that of ANY "LED" tv you will see scamming the market today. They are LED backlit garbage twisted nematic LCD panels with terrible color accuracy.The sony has almost as good colors as my $700 Gateway FPD2485W professional S-IPS photo editing monitor actually, but still not quite. despite this, the phone still looks way better because of the black levels and sharpness, brightness and overall quality of the screen. I think Samsung solved the color problems with SuperAMOLED Plus with a different sub pixel layout amongst other improvemnts
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I will confirm this works for my Pioneer and Jensen HU's in my vehicles, as well as my XBOX360. Only downfall is you have to use your audio device to choose your tracks. It gets the job done.
Sounds like OP needs a custom Bose system for his car, and a Galaxy iNote.
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Do not ever plague my posts saying insinuating that I'm a BOSE or Apple fanboy. I am a fanboy of nothing, besides maybe the Dodge Viper. My car sound system might've only cost me $350, from amazing creigslist deals, but it'd run me over $1200 everything brand new with a shop install. I might only have cheap polk 5.25" paper cone door speakers with only 45 watts RMS but they have 93db efficiency which is outstanding for the size, and swivel mount silk domes for clarity. my Alpine 6x9 in the back also have silk domes, and my Alpine 12" kevlar reinforced pulp cone subs might only be 400 watts RMS,but they sound damn clean for the price I stole them for off creigslist, and the custom box they're in is well enough built that even being a vented dual 12" box, if you physically tap on one woofer, the other moves like a well built passive radiator. The component speakers are driven from an MB Quart RA4200 100x4 RMS 0.5% THD amp, which is when rockford fosgate owned MB Quart, and had some quality stuff.
Then again, my home system is better, and while I only have a surround sound system comprised of my HTPC using analogue out from my Auzentech X-FI Home Theater HD, which is one of the best cards ever made for it's purpose, a few 5" Kevlar woofer, Class AB active 1" Silk dome M-Audio BX5a studio monitors, they definitely have clarity. but, my Velodyne ULD 18 is what brings my theater together. You may not understand this, or understand why, but an 18 inch woofer producing [email protected] 20Hz with 0.5% THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) with under a QUARTER INCH of excursion, using a standard tar reinforced pulp cone woofer, with a servo attached to it to achieve this, is no easy feat considering the sub was made before I was born, in 1989. It was the first subwoofer ever to get a class A stereophile review. not only that, but it's flat down to 14Hz and will still push over 120db @ 20Hz with well under 3% THD. This is impressive for using only a 400 watt Class B servo amplifier. The bass quality of my theater makes my car sub which people seem to think is amazing hearing it sound like complete garbage. it makes my sudio monitors look like garbage, and anything bose has ever made sound like garbage, and it's the only piece of audio equipment I will claim to be true quality, everything else, I consider mediocre, because I can't afford a $4,000 pair of ATC bookshelves, or a $30,000 pair of JMLAB Utoptias..
But for the price I paid, I got decent enough quality, and my headphones I use (Sennheiser CX6 for fidelity, Vmoda Crossfade LP for soundstage and bass/electronic music), you can't ever tell me BOSE is quality. Maybe the BOSE 301's are good, I don't know for sure, haven't head them, but everything BOSE Iv'e ever heard was garbage for the money, and I had the tri port headphones, I had the quiet comfort 3's both as a gift. I'd never pay for anything bose has ever currently made, but who knows, Ford finally made something awesome with the new mustangs, I could change my mind eventually.
Point is, I mostly know what I'm doing with audio. As an Audiophile, I can say for a fact, Apple has a lot of loyal customers because of the audio options, Iv'e had 3 Iphones, the original as a hand me down which was broken (I'm extremely grateful for that because of the grandfather clause), the Iphone 4 as a gift before I ever cared about having a nice phone, and the 4S I traded my atrix for and couldn't stand using it once I knew what I was missing, despite the ease it was connecting to my head unit. The lack of navigation really pissed me off, the interface and texting pissed me off, the tiny screen pissed me off. I ended up deciding to sell the iphone and ipad to get this Galaxy note, which was worth it in every aspect except the terrible audio options available and the fact Samsung ripped us off on ICS release.
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Pretty crappy for my standards but w/e
Ehh, only really good piece of equipment in these pics is my good 24" monitor, and my Velodyne ULD18, and they are kind of old but I don't have any good new pics..
c0reyl said:
It may have been a bit of an understatement, but considering that windows is something like 62 million lines of code, a simple driver for enabling usb audio when we already have USB host 2.0 wouldn't be very much in comparison, when it should have been implemented in the first place..
Honestly, if anyone gets full linux to ever work on the note, I'm going to use that and never look back if USB audio works with it, and has s-pen support to control the mouse. I'm pretty sure that would happen LONG before android ever gets universal usb audio.
I actually thought that bluetooth audio had less bitrate, but I want the capability for lossless audio streaming from my home network using FLAC files, and the ability to watch blu ray stored on my pc over LTE would be badass as well, without audio comprimise.
Integrating TOSLINK hidden inside our headphone jack isn't has hard as you think. Many RCA and 3.5mm connectors have toslink hidden inside them from laptops and other devices, my sound card has it in the RCA SPDIF out. All they would need to do is make a proprietary android plastic mold adapter which being slightly different chaped than a headphone jack, would activate the TOSLINK switch inside the headphone jack and allow it to be on only by plugging the proprietary adapter inside, saving battery. TOSLINK can't be affected by EMF interuption. If this started happening, many things in the mobile market would change. Apple would lose hundreds of thousands of customers from the audio quality standpoint alone, more audiophiles would emerge from everywhere. Speaker development would increase exponentially. Hifi iPod docks would include TOSLINK. High end headphones would start coming with portable amps with Line Out, TOSLINK, and other options. It would be the easiest way to connect to a home theater system for high end audio. more people would be making their desktops a home server with all the audio stored on it able to stream over LTE. More people would be interested in FLAC and better bitrates. OTher companies would be profiting, driving BOSE into the ground. Companies like JMLAB, Legacy, Theil, Velodyne, Celestian, PSB, Focal, and many other high end companies who deserve more market.
I think it's a little stupid that on a device with a screen as nice as ours, we have little to no audio options available, when audio should have been the first concern in order to manipulate the market. Almost nobody who owns our phone even realizes just how good the display actually is. The black levels on our screen surpass almost any TV ever made, even if the colors aren't perfect. For example, I have a 55 inch 720p Sony Rear projection triple LCD panel tv with less pixels then my phone screen. The black levels on the phone DESTROY my tv, even if the colors aren't near as good on the phone, for cinema, it looks way better a foot from my face than optimal viewing distance with the HDTV. and, the colors on the HDTV surpass that of ANY "LED" tv you will see scamming the market today. They are LED backlit garbage twisted nematic LCD panels with terrible color accuracy.The sony has almost as good colors as my $700 Gateway FPD2485W professional S-IPS photo editing monitor actually, but still not quite. despite this, the phone still looks way better because of the black levels and sharpness, brightness and overall quality of the screen. I think Samsung solved the color problems with SuperAMOLED Plus with a different sub pixel layout amongst other improvemnts
Do not ever plague my posts saying insinuating that I'm a BOSE or Apple fanboy. I am a fanboy of nothing, besides maybe the Dodge Viper. My car sound system might've only cost me $350, from amazing creigslist deals, but it'd run me over $1200 everything brand new with a shop install. I might only have cheap polk 5.25" paper cone door speakers with only 45 watts RMS but they have 93db efficiency which is outstanding for the size, and swivel mount silk domes for clarity. my Alpine 6x9 in the back also have silk domes, and my Alpine 12" kevlar reinforced pulp cone subs might only be 400 watts RMS,but they sound damn clean for the price I stole them for off creigslist, and the custom box they're in is well enough built that even being a vented dual 12" box, if you physically tap on one woofer, the other moves like a well built passive radiator. The component speakers are driven from an MB Quart RA4200 100x4 RMS 0.5% THD amp, which is when rockford fosgate owned MB Quart, and had some quality stuff.
Then again, my home system is better, and while I only have a surround sound system comprised of my HTPC using analogue out from my Auzentech X-FI Home Theater HD, which is one of the best cards ever made for it's purpose, a few 5" Kevlar woofer, Class AB active 1" Silk dome M-Audio BX5a studio monitors, they definitely have clarity. but, my Velodyne ULD 18 is what brings my theater together. You may not understand this, or understand why, but an 18 inch woofer producing [email protected] 20Hz with 0.5% THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) with under a QUARTER INCH of excursion, using a standard tar reinforced pulp cone woofer, with a servo attached to it to achieve this, is no easy feat considering the sub was made before I was born, in 1989. It was the first subwoofer ever to get a class A stereophile review. not only that, but it's flat down to 14Hz and will still push over 120db @ 20Hz with well under 3% THD. This is impressive for using only a 400 watt Class B servo amplifier. The bass quality of my theater makes my car sub which people seem to think is amazing hearing it sound like complete garbage. it makes my sudio monitors look like garbage, and anything bose has ever made sound like garbage, and it's the only piece of audio equipment I will claim to be true quality, everything else, I consider mediocre, because I can't afford a $4,000 pair of ATC bookshelves, or a $30,000 pair of JMLAB Utoptias..
But for the price I paid, I got decent enough quality, and my headphones I use (Sennheiser CX6 for fidelity, Vmoda Crossfade LP for soundstage and bass/electronic music), you can't ever tell me BOSE is quality. Maybe the BOSE 301's are good, I don't know for sure, haven't head them, but everything BOSE Iv'e ever heard was garbage for the money, and I had the tri port headphones, I had the quiet comfort 3's both as a gift. I'd never pay for anything bose has ever currently made, but who knows, Ford finally made something awesome with the new mustangs, I could change my mind eventually.
Point is, I mostly know what I'm doing with audio. As an Audiophile, I can say for a fact, Apple has a lot of loyal customers because of the audio options, Iv'e had 3 Iphones, the original as a hand me down which was broken (I'm extremely grateful for that because of the grandfather clause), the Iphone 4 as a gift before I ever cared about having a nice phone, and the 4S I traded my atrix for and couldn't stand using it once I knew what I was missing, despite the ease it was connecting to my head unit. The lack of navigation really pissed me off, the interface and texting pissed me off, the tiny screen pissed me off. I ended up deciding to sell the iphone and ipad to get this Galaxy note, which was worth it in every aspect except the terrible audio options available and the fact Samsung ripped us off on ICS release.
Pretty crappy for my standards but w/e
Ehh, only really good piece of equipment in these pics is my good 24" monitor, and my Velodyne ULD18, and they are kind of old but I don't have any good new pics..
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