Hello all!!
I'm new to Android and i'm interested in learning a bit and maybe get involved with it but there are some things that i don't get about android and can't find the answers.
My main question is why Android which is based on Linux is so hard to get updates for all devices at once?
For example we got ICS lately why it's only available for Nexus S and not for all devices that support android?
In pcs if there is a new Ubuntu version every pc can get it no matter the hardware it uses as there are drivers for it.
Is it so hard to have drivers for all the android devices?
Why do we need to wait forever for the X company that makes the phone to build a new kernel?
Is it about the libaries?The drivers?
Say i got a device that is not supported by ICS what would i need to make it supported? I got my libs from 2.3.5 can i toss them to overlay compile and works? If not y not?
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry if my questions are too noobish, everyone has to start from somewhere
Serafym said:
Hello all!!
I'm new to Android and i'm interested in learning a bit and maybe get involved with it but there are some things that i don't get about android and can't find the answers.
1. My main question is why Android which is based on Linux is so hard to get updates for all devices at once?
2. For example we got ICS lately why it's only available for Nexus S and not for all devices that support android?
- In pcs if there is a new Ubuntu version every pc can get it no matter the hardware it uses as there are drivers for it.
3. Is it so hard to have drivers for all the android devices?
4. Why do we need to wait forever for the X company that makes the phone to build a new kernel?
5. Is it about the libaries?The drivers?
6. Say i got a device that is not supported by ICS what would i need to make it supported? I got my libs from 2.3.5 can i toss them to overlay compile and works? If not y not?
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry if my questions are too noobish, everyone has to start from somewhere
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1. Manufacturers don't release updates for all their devices all at once (some not at all).
2. It's ready (most stable so far) for that device (SDK ports; (almost) official update)
- Not true. If you tried to place Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a PC with a 368 MHz and 32mb ram, it would not run .
3. Yes. Android is on devices from many different manufacturers with many different designs and hardware.
4. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel (to know what it is). Different hardware will require different commands, etc. If the manufacturer doesn't release the kernel source, development cannot be done on that device (properly).
5. Yes and yes (much more too).
6. Create a working port from some other device (with similar hardware) which is supported. Sometimes. Some versions of android have backward compatibility of those files but ICS isn't really backward compatible which is why many ports of ICS (for various devices) don't have a working camera, etc. See the 2nd paragraph here: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update.
Hi everibody
at the beginning of the 2012 the source code of symbian^3 has been relased by nokia, bootloader included. I can't understand why this great news has been almost totally ignored by everybody. Ok, nokia it's no more the #1 seller of mobile phones, but I think that it would be great, if it's possible, to port android on those devices, expecially to those one with symbian belle that have a pretty decent hardware (above 1 Ghz processor, enough RAM and good camera). So, why nobody is working on that project, if it's theoretically possible?
gigsaw said:
Hi everibody
at the beginning of the 2012 the source code of symbian^3 has been relased by nokia, bootloader included. I can't understand why this great news has been almost totally ignored by everybody. Ok, nokia it's no more the #1 seller of mobile phones, but I think that it would be great, if it's possible, to port android on those devices, expecially to those one with symbian belle that have a pretty decent hardware (above 1 Ghz processor, enough RAM and good camera). So, why nobody is working on that project, if it's theoretically possible?
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Symbian it's dead and buried by Nokia ! If not look what devices it's taking out Nokia: lumia series without symbian.
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Yeah, I agree with you, and that's exately for this reason that I'm writing this post. Probably nokia will abandon those devices because there is a gape between symbian and the other os that can't be filled, but the hardware of this phone is ok. Why not giving the possibility to the owners of this devices (and are a lot of people) to install android on those terminals? With the relase of the source code I think it would be possible...
gigsaw said:
Yeah, I agree with you, and that's exately for this reason that I'm writing this post. Probably nokia will abandon those devices because there is a gape between symbian and the other os that can't be filled, but the hardware of this phone is ok. Why not giving the possibility to the owners of this devices (and are a lot of people) to install android on those terminals? With the relase of the source code I think it would be possible...
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Not at all their interest is to sell devices !
Hope you get something, you'll need to enter in bootloader. But I don't know how to adapt it to Nokia ones !
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For now that's what has been found out from symbian^2 (the only one taken into account for now, but I think that Symbian^3 wouldn't be so far different):
- The whole bootloader code (verified to be present even in symbian^3, in "Symbian-OS layer" and the folder is: os/kernelhwsvr/brbootldr)
- This code contains options for dual booting
Boot options:
- Boot from NOR area
- Boot from NAND area
- Boot from USB (Memory Card) in Mass Storage mode
Flash options:
- Flash ROM from ZIP
- Flash ROM from Symbian Image
The problems found:
- Accessing the bootloader on current Symbian devices (how to get into bootloader mode on the phone?)
- In the USB booting (the source code refers to a separate executable what should do the booting, but this executable ISN’T AVAILABLE anywhere, nor in the source, neither in any current device)
I think that here we DO have the concrete possibility to open up Symbian devices, and I can't believe that on this forum, with 4,580,619 users registred, NOBODY is interested in this thing.
Is it possible in theory to boot the RAZR to a different OS altogether, like windows 8 metro? Thinking dual boot, keep MIUI on one partition and windows on another. Might be totally impossible but worth asking.
Cheers
Lotok said:
Is it possible in theory to boot the RAZR to a different OS altogether, like windows 8 metro? Thinking dual boot, keep MIUI on one partition and windows on another. Might be totally impossible but worth asking.
Cheers
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Since Windows or IOS is closed source systems nobody can run it on any other device but a preloded device with the OS unlike Android.
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Hello i want to know how to develop a bootloader for a windows phone device..i am of the logic that even though there are different wp7 devices manufactured, they all have very similar hardwares..i am talking about wp7 devices here and not a wp8 devices..as they have similar hardwares and the devices are NOT manufactured with bootloaders in them already, i say that basically all custom bootloaders have very similar characterestics..so taking the modifications by OEMs secondary to what MS has done in its OS, it should be possible to develop a custom bootloader for all devices with little or moderate modifications and so u can have the same pizza base for different toppings..
this is how i have understood the bootloader concept in wp7..anybody like cotulla please be kind enough to correct me if i am wrong and please be kind to create a tutorial on how to create a bootloader..stock bootloader is and has been one of the culprit that does not allow unsigned cabs and ROMS to be installed on a wp7 device except in case of some lumia 710 and 800 that came with unlocked bootloaders..we can preferably take a 2nd gen wp7 as example..say samsung focus s or htc titan 2 or samsung omnia w..
and develpoers, please remember that more people(but not too many) working on a project may help speeding up the work..
Is possible to install Linux on Galaxy View SM-T667?
I am trying use it as work computer, with linux on board it will be better
I guess there is not been such a topic, so my question is it possible at all? CPU is Samsung Equinox, can Linux run on this processor?
If yes, please give some links to articles that i should read for do some experiments youself?
I know Ubuntu make cell phones and tablets maybe you can try to port to View Ubuntu also allow you porting to a new device here https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/ seems like someone has try to porting to samsung tablets before but abandoned it under here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices