Poor 3g in places 1x might be better? - HTC EVO 3D

I was wondering if on an unrooted phone can you tell your phone to use 1x instead of 3g because the speeds may be better due to a stronger signal?
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DJ1994 said:
I was wondering if on an unrooted phone can you tell your phone to use 1x instead of 3g because the speeds may be better due to a stronger signal?
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Ok I will bite, how slow is your 3G? Even if your 3G is very slow it is still highly unlikely that you would get 1xrtt that is faster than your 3G speed. 1xrtt is very slow. It peaks just shy of 20Kb/s, but real world speeds are likely to be more like 7.5-13Kb/s.
If you are unhappy with your 3G speed you could setup one of the custom PRLs to allow you to roam on Verizon's 3G towers. They are way better, and way faster than sprint in nearly every region.

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Sad Panda said:
Ok I will bite, how slow is your 3G? Even if your 3G is very slow it is still highly unlikely that you would get 1xrtt that is faster than your 3G speed. 1xrtt is very slow. It peaks just shy of 20Kb/s, but real world speeds are likely to be more like 7.5-13Kb/s.
If you are unhappy with your 3G speed you could setup one of the custom PRLs to allow you to roam on Verizon's 3G towers. They are way better, and way faster than sprint in nearly every region.
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In my area my 3g speeds is about 5 kB/s. 1x is definitely faster.
One option is to use wifi at your house as I am sure 95% of home ISPs are much faster than 1x and possibly 3g.
Outside of your house you may want to use 1x or the Verizon prls but be careful, you roam too much and Sprint will cancel your line(s).

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I think I might take DJ's angle on this... there are rare occasions where I have the weakest signal available too and 3g just won't do anything. Nothing will load, yet it acts as if there is signal. I wouldn't mind seeing if 1x would do something in these instances - would be better than being at a stand-still.
However, flipping this around... I have noticed that when I do get bumped to 1x while I'm doing something on the web (streaming music, navigation, etc), it stays in 1x until I'm done using data - even in areas I know I normally would get strong 3g speeds. Is this just a limitation where switching or even scanning for 3g would drop whatever data stream there is and not be able to pick up where it is or just have to restart?

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You guys having 3G speeds that are as slow as you describe are likely not experiencing slow 3G, but actually only connected to 1xrtt. Sprint for some reason has the ability to tell our phones they are connected to 3G, but if you run a diagnostic it will tell you that you are in fact connected to 1rxtt not evdo-a. So apparently they can spoof the 3G icon to show up. Total BS. So that honestly sounds like what is happening.

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Sad Panda said:
Ok I will bite, how slow is your 3G? Even if your 3G is very slow it is still highly unlikely that you would get 1xrtt that is faster than your 3G speed. 1xrtt is very slow. It peaks just shy of 20Kb/s, but real world speeds are likely to be more like 7.5-13Kb/s
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False, unless you're referencing kilobytes and not kilobits, in which case when you refer to kilobytes, you capitalize the B. Uppercase B = byte, lowercase b = bit. Real world 1xRTT bandwidth should peak around 140ish kbps (averages probably below 100). I've seen 80+ myself a number of times. The important thing to keep in mind about 1xRTT is you don't even have to fully saturate your bandwidth before the latency skyrockets.
However, I will agree that even if your 3G is slow, it's still probably faster and more responsive than a good 1xRTT signal.

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Sad Panda said:
If you are unhappy with your 3G speed you could setup one of the custom PRLs to allow you to roam on Verizon's 3G towers. They are way better, and way faster than sprint in nearly every region.
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If you are going to give this bad advice out, put a disclaimer on it stating that force roaming to Verizon could get your account cancelled.

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tgruendler said:
If you are going to give this bad advice out, put a disclaimer on it stating that force roaming to Verizon could get your account cancelled.
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Had I provided the link or the method to do it there would have been a disclaimer about that possibility for my own liability. However as these people all signed contracts they would know that already. Unless you are an idiot and don't read every last bit of every term and condition before signing, or don't understand what you read. Now if that is the case they have far more problems than any trouble I could get them into. I would be courteous and issue a reminder before providing the method, but as far as you trying to shift responsibility on to me, I think it is a load of horse ****. No person has any business signing a contract they haven't read or haven't understood. So "my bad advice" from your perspective is really a moot point. That's great that you don't agree with the method, you have your reasons I'm sure, but I personally have unlimited roaming, that's something I pay for. I've read my contract and I stay within the confines of those terms. If these people read their's I'm sure they will too.
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ydoucare said:
False, unless you're referencing kilobytes and not kilobits, in which case when you refer to kilobytes, you capitalize the B. Uppercase B = byte, lowercase b = bit. Real world 1xRTT bandwidth should peak around 140ish kbps (averages probably below 100). I've seen 80+ myself a number of times. The important thing to keep in mind about 1xRTT is you don't even have to fully saturate your bandwidth before the latency skyrockets.
However, I will agree that even if your 3G is slow, it's still probably faster and more responsive than a good 1xRTT signal.
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As you can see I used capital K. I was responding on my phone and didn't notice the b was left lower case. If you do the math on the kbits you sourced you are in the range I posted.

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I was getting consistently under 50 on speed tests in the auditorium I was in. It was 3g from the speed tests and the rooted phone next to me. I have a Verizon Orlando 11115 but i can't force roam I tried to buy roam control but its not in the market I have the app but no license. I see 1x around 100-120 a lot so I was thinking that would be a lot more usable than 19. I was just wondering if there is a way to turn off 3g but leave on mobile data which would be the 1x.
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Sad Panda said:
You guys having 3G speeds that are as slow as you describe are likely not experiencing slow 3G, but actually only connected to 1xrtt. Sprint for some reason has the ability to tell our phones they are connected to 3G, but if you run a diagnostic it will tell you that you are in fact connected to 1rxtt not evdo-a. So apparently they can spoof the 3G icon to show up. Total BS. So that honestly sounds like what is happening.
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Maybe, but I thought that was an issue on stock rom?
Most custom toms will show 1x when you are on 1x.

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right we were talking about the stock unrooted. This is not that big an issue for me as roam control is back in the market and my phone crashed so I decided to go ahead and root htc way.