I saw somewhere that perm root has been achieved, but it is not being released because it could be hard to fix if you screw up the system partition.
Heres the thing though...
Don't we have the recovery files that can reflash the shipping OS version?
Also seeing as how we do not have S=Off that means we can't screw up the hboot or really flash anything that is "unautorized".
That means we could fix any issues by reflashing the stock software right?
Or is the perm root not being released because the method is too difficult.
If that is the case, I understand not wanting a bunch of casual flashers/rooters attempting this, but there are those of us that can actually follow instructions well. Heck I even rooted my old Nexus One without using the official unlock command. It involved switching SD cards at just the right moment while running special scripts for ADB and other craziness.
Saw this today,
http://www.androidauthority.com/how...android-2-3-4-gingerbread-in-one-click-36933/
Bottom of article states you can install custom ROM's
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at the bottom of the page it sources
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346729
which is temp root, who ever read that prbly didnt know the difference lol
ah, thank you.
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Marine6680 said:
I saw somewhere that perm root has been achieved, but it is not being released because it could be hard to fix if you screw up the system partition.
Heres the thing though...
Don't we have the recovery files that can reflash the shipping OS version?
Also seeing as how we do not have S=Off that means we can't screw up the hboot or really flash anything that is "unautorized".
That means we could fix any issues by reflashing the stock software right?
Or is the perm root not being released because the method is too difficult.
If that is the case, I understand not wanting a bunch of casual flashers/rooters attempting this, but there are those of us that can actually follow instructions well. Heck I even rooted my old Nexus One without using the official unlock command. It involved switching SD cards at just the right moment while running special scripts for ADB and other craziness.
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I think the other part of this issue is that he (Evil DevNull -- oops I said a bad word around here) is using an exploit in the sim card system. He said he burned up two cards doing this. Probably not a very safe method at this point along with the other potential problems.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I think the other part of this issue is that he (Evil DevNull -- oops I said a bad word around here) is using an exploit in the sim card system. He said he burned up two cards doing this. Probably not a very safe method at this point along with the other potential problems.
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Their twitter conversations have a youtube video showing root, have not watched it yet.
The title says Resound gets permanent root.
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The dude that did the youtube video is kolahib001. Says he has perm root on one of the other sites in the rezound forum. I have not seen any proof of s-off on youtube or another site.
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If they can release a perm root solution that is safe with S-On, I'll take it. That's all I want right now, and I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy with it for now as well.
Good luck.
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jbh00jh said:
The dude that did the youtube video is kolahib001. Says he has perm root on one of the other sites in the rezound forum. I have not seen any proof of s-off on youtube or another site.
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It is assumed he has a Factory rooted device, or possibly that a glitch in the "Root Checker" program still shows it was rooted after a reboot when it really wasn't. Also, it seems rather shady that he's already asking for money:
Would it be greedy of me to ask for a $5 donation from 500 people?
I really want this set of rims for Christmas.
Am I asking for too much?
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He started a new thread on the other Dev forums (the 1st one was locked) and we've asked him to Open Titanium before and after the reboot, as well as show us the Bootloader screen to see if it's a factory S-Off/Rooted phone or not. Also, we've asked him for his method. Just seems very shady to me.
Speaking of money...anyone willing to organize and spearhead donations to the developer or group that achieves s-off?
I know this was done on other phones where people pledged $x amount of money.
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It is assumed he has a Factory rooted device, or possibly that a glitch in the "Root Checker" program still shows it was rooted after a reboot when it really wasn't. Also, it seems rather shady that he's already asking for money:
He started a new thread on the other Dev forums (the 1st one was locked) and we've asked him to Open Titanium before and after the reboot, as well as show us the Bootloader screen to see if it's a factory S-Off/Rooted phone or not. Also, we've asked him for his method. Just seems very shady to me.
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Just another dude looking for attention,or con man.
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Just another dude looking for attention,or con man.
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Pretty much. I wouldn't be asking anyone for a dime period let alone prior to providing a full disclosure of the methods used to obtain root status.
Just like everyone else....I'll believe it when I see it.
Blah... perm root S=On is good enough for me right now if it can happen.
I'll pitch in a few bucks for that... I'll throw a few more for S=Off.
First time since the G1 that I had a device before root was achieved. I wanted to take advantage of the penny sale at Verizon is why I picked it up now. I would have gotten a galaxy s 2 had Verizon offered one. Oh well, every HTC so far has been broken eventually. I hope we don't have to wait too long though.
There was already a donation thread started somewhere I believe. But Evil was the only verbal dev working on root/s-off and said he didn't want money.
Marine6680 said:
Blah... perm root S=On is good enough for me right now if it can happen..
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This is dangerous. If something happens to /system you're screwed because without recovery it can't be..... well recovered.
There is already a temp root method that you can use to kill the bloat. Outside of that root doesn't really provide you with any other abilities except maybe to steal wifi tethering without subscribing.
Without s off you wont be able to overclock, flash custom Roms or alternate radios....so why do people think they need to have perm root without s-off?
There are plenty other things you can do with Root without S-Off.
THe EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 had the HTC Methosd which left u with an unlocked bootloader and S-On and Flashing kernels and such had to be done thru Fastboot Commands, Which was if the ROM had a Custom Kernel as a Default. Now JoeyKrim created the Flash Image GUI which was a hella of a creation for the people who were stuck in this position. Check out his app if u havent yet. If for some strange reason this was tyhe only resort for us, it wouldnt be bad at all
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THe EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 had the HTC Methosd which left u with an unlocked bootloader and S-On and Flashing kernels and such had to be done thru Fastboot Commands, Which was if the ROM had a Custom Kernel as a Default. Now JoeyKrim created the Flash Image GUI which was a hella of a creation for the people who were stuck in this position. Check out his app if u havent yet. If for some strange reason this was tyhe only resort for us, it wouldnt be bad at all
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I agree... it wouldn't bother me. If only HTCDev.com worked.
con247 said:
I agree... it wouldn't bother me. If only HTCDev.com worked.
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Yeah no kidding. I doubt Verizon would let it push thru too. Ahh well. We'll just have to wait for it the old fashion way
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Some people might want to get rid of the modified bootloader after running the revolutionary beta to get s-off. It is pretty easy.
Also if you run a RUU you will need to run this to get proper s-off.
1. Get s-off
1a. I recommend not useing clockwork mod and instead installing TeamWin Recovery Project2 .Download the eng bootloader and put it in the root of your sd-card
Link-> PG86IMG_eng-hboot.zip
Rename it to be PG86IMG.zip3. Disable quickboot in system power settings
Shutdown the phone, hold down the volume down button and hit the power/hold button4. Once in the bootloader hitting volume up will ask if you want to update, hit volume up again to accept and then reboot.5. Remove or rename the PG86IMG.zip in order to get into the bootloader again, as it will always try to apply the update.
ionstorm66 said:
Some people might want to get rid of the modified bootloader after running the revolutionary beta to get s-off. It is pretty easy.
1. Get s-off
1a. I recommend not useing clockwork mod and instead installing TeamWin Recovery Project2.Download the eng bootloader and put it in the root of your sd-card
Link-> PG86IMG_eng-hboot.zip
Rename it to be PG86IMG.zip
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Whats the difference? Mine says eMMC H.Boot
The eng bootloader has s-off stock, and has more fastboot options. It also removes anything that revolutionary did in the bootloader to get s-off.
knowledge561 said:
Whats the difference? Mine says eMMC H.Boot
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Thanks. I would have never known.
ionstorm66 said:
1. Get s-off
1a. I recommend not useing clockwork mod and instead installing TeamWin Recovery Project
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When people make recommendations like this, I have to question why? Does CWM brick phones if you use this method? Is there a performance issue when trying this?
Not to be an ass or anything but you have 2 total post in 2 months. Please elaborate this recommendation before you have hundreds of thousands of people following your recommendation. Personal experiences as well as any confirmed bugs that others have experienced would be good.
I think that is more for Devs
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unknown_owner said:
When people make recommendations like this, I have to question why? Does CWM brick phones if you use this method? Is there a performance issue when trying this?
Not to be an ass or anything but you have 2 total post in 2 months. Please elaborate this recommendation before you have hundreds of thousands of people following your recommendation. Personal experiences as well as any confirmed bugs that others have experienced would be good.
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If you have some basic knowledge and have used revolutionary you would know why he suggested it, so maybe you should read more and he can elaborate less? BTW his instructions are perfect.
TimidRat said:
If you have some basic knowledge and have used revolutionary you would know why he suggested it, so maybe you should read more and he can elaborate less? BTW his instructions are perfect.
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Agreed
Locked & Loaded
unknown_owner said:
When people make recommendations like this, I have to question why? Does CWM brick phones if you use this method? Is there a performance issue when trying this?
Not to be an ass or anything but you have 2 total post in 2 months. Please elaborate this recommendation before you have hundreds of thousands of people following your recommendation. Personal experiences as well as any confirmed bugs that others have experienced would be good.
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plus one dude sounded like a strait ****
ion thanks bro **** worked like a charm now im clean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
worked perfectly for me... thx OP
Worked awesome! Loving the look and being able to say I have the engineering bootloader, thanks OP.
hey +1 on the thanks, easy to do and kool eng boott
You know what f**k it, i'm not going to get into any internet wars for something that is not mine but never said anythuing was wrong with revolutionary, let's get that straight. I have used CWM for evolution, epic, e3d, and Asus TF. Never had anything go wrong. So if some says not to use it, I'd like to know if I need to seek an alternative for each device. No I'm not going to search/read any he said she said post on the internet to find an answer. If the answer has to do with people and not the actual programs themselves, then the recommendation is mute.
Thanks on the steps btw
And to clarify, revolutionary is the only method to get s-off right now. There are 2 recoveries available after the s-off: CWM and TWRP.
EEE Pad Transformer sent this
Also Sprint can't tell if your EVO is a dev unit or not because It's an official eng bootloader from HTC.
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kpkimmel said:
Also Sprint can't tell if your EVO is a dev unit or not because It's an official eng bootloader from HTC.
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Are you saying that Sprint can somehow poll our devices and deduce what bootloader is installed? Or do you mean a Sprint rep with hands-on access? If the latter, I'm fairly certain they would suspect something was up when they saw S-OFF and the ENG bootloader. Either one would be a sure sign that the phone was something other than stock.
unknown_owner said:
You know what f**k it, i'm not going to get into any internet wars for something that is not mine but never said anythuing was wrong with revolutionary, let's get that straight. I have used CWM for evolution, epic, e3d, and Asus TF. Never had anything go wrong. So if some says not to use it, I'd like to know if I need to seek an alternative for each device. No I'm not going to search/read any he said she said post on the internet to find an answer. If the answer has to do with people and not the actual programs themselves, then the recommendation is mute.
Thanks on the steps btw
And to clarify, revolutionary is the only method to get s-off right now. There are 2 recoveries available after the s-off: CWM and TWRP.
EEE Pad Transformer sent this
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Well, most of us who got our E4G on release day and rooted immediately didn't like early versions of CWM because it wouldn't wipe properly or completely sometimes (giving rise to ridiculous multi-wipe scripts). That and all the associated wonkyness that would follow could be eliminated before it began by simply using Amon Ra and avoiding CWM like the plague...
...even though I've used CWM successfully on devices that have no Amon Ra given our collective early experiences with it (and absolute lack of problems with stable versions of Amon Ra) on the E4G we never used anything but Amon Ra and never had any problems....but we did with CWM at one point.
That's likely why he said it and is why you hear that a lot still. Lots of us E4G guys jumped to E3D immediately. Even though CWM fixed that problem I hear we wouldn't know, we used Amon Ra with nary a problem.
erikivy said:
Are you saying that Sprint can somehow poll our devices and deduce what bootloader is installed? Or do you mean a Sprint rep with hands-on access? If the latter, I'm fairly certain they would suspect something was up when they saw S-OFF and the ENG bootloader. Either one would be a sure sign that the phone was something other than stock.
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A handful of them shipped S-OFF and some of those were probably eng hboots...that and it doesn't say "REVOLUTIONARY" in bright pink at the top...that's a definite giveaway.
If you're going to repost something you could at least link back to where you took everything from...
daneurysm said:
A handful of them shipped S-OFF and some of those were probably eng hboots...that and it doesn't say "REVOLUTIONARY" in bright pink at the top...that's a definite giveaway.
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I forgot about the Revo branding at the top. And I didn't know any shipped s-off. I thought those were Sensations. Regardless, I happy we finally got what we've been waiting for.
Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
You'll be fine, best buy will still take care of ya. Go for it.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Bestbuy doesn't have a policy, but if it is rooted, chances are you'll get a dumbass who won't replace it because it's rooted. The reason they will know this is because of the superuser app. If you ever decide to replace, go back to stock rooted, hide superuser the from apps list using a custom launcher like Launcher Pro and you'll be good.
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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That's the truth
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I would wait till revolutionary or who ever finds a way to s-off 1.5 I'm pretty sure there has been progress.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/11/hboot-15000-close-to-getting-s-off-on-htc-evo-3d.html
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is there an eta on 1.5?
Yes you should root.
Take05 said:
Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
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i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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timezone12 said:
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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Horrible comparison. Rooting your phone is more like adding a performance chip to your car that makes the car run different than from the factory, which if something happened to it, such as the engine blows because you removed the rev limiter (overclocking then your phone overheats and won't boot anymore), that would be your fault and the warranty should be voided.
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I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
Sad Panda said:
I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
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I was simply trying to figure out whats gonna be different about waiting for a different method other then HTC's. Ive only broken 1 phone in the past 6 years, and thats cus i was pushed in a lake... Not really my fault. Im not worried about hardware, but more or less when people say HTC Will know that the phone has been rooted no matter what afterwards... Not a big deal if its not gonna affect fixing my phone should i break it in the future.. (i just dont like people knowing what ive done to my electronics) As for using the root. im finally wanting to pull the trigger becasue i just moved and want tethering, as well as improved battery life. (my 4G seemed to get 25%-50% battery life after root)
Im rambling now, mostly cus my brother is distracting me and cant remember what ive written.
Im mostly just looking for peoples thoughts as far as HTC's method vs. Waiting for another actual s-off. unbeknown to HTC. I know the differences about flashing roms and what not, so just the basic question above.
blooregard_q_kazoo said:
i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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I meant should i wait for s-off via someone else (rev i think). or just use htc's method (with s-on)
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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Yeah this guy said it perfectly...
I only root for free hotspot. Old phones need speed boost but not so much now
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schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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haha. I love this response!
If you're questioning yourself, then you probably should not.
I just got my new EVO and it already loaded the new update. I was wondering if i can root it now? if not what are my options?
You'll need to use HTC's unlock with 1.22.651.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
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You'll need to use HTC's unlock with 1.22.651.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
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where do i find the unlock? Sorry i am fairly new at this.
You'll probably get flamed for not searching, as this is a common question. But anyway, go to htcdev.com and on the right side where it says choose device, look for 'other devices' or so me things similar. Also read a lot about rooting, everything you need is in the dev section. If you get stuck let us know
"We're coming from a pure power source"
What others have said. Just wanted to add in that your warranty will be void if you unlock with htcdev
To some it matters, to others it does not.
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champ052005 said:
What others have said. Just wanted to add in that your warranty will be void if you unlock with htcdev
To some it matters, to others it does not.
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This only voids your HTC warranty. When was the last time anyone has used that?
It does NOT prevent you from getting repairs through sprint or insurance
HTC's warranty is lame anyway. You have to send your phone to them and it could be gone for a month.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
metalfan78 said:
HTC's warranty is lame anyway. You have to send your phone to them and it could be gone for a month.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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This is funny because my already htcdev rooted, and reverted back evo is now in Texas for my camera repair. No mention
yet that I have voided my warranty, we'll see what happens. They better not say rooting fuk'd my camera, it went out gradually.
NOW FIX MY F"N PHONE!!
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This is funny because my already htcdev rooted, and reverted back evo is now in Texas for my camera repair. No mention
yet that I have voided my warranty, we'll see what happens. They better not say rooting fuk'd my camera, it went out gradually.
NOW FIX MY F"N PHONE!!
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The disclaimer said that it may void parts of the warranty, so I'm hoping they'll still fix hardware issues like that. Unless they want to start making claims about rooting breaking things at a hardware level.
lordelin said:
where do i find the unlock? Sorry i am fairly new at this.
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Not sure if you have rooted a phone before, but i just rooted my phone for the first time last weekend this way and it's really easy. Best of luck but i don't think you should have any issues figuring it out though.
This is the way i did it though. Having the written instructions and the video really helped. http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-root/how-to-root-htc-evo-4g-lte-unlock-bootloadertwrp-recovery/
S-off
If you root your phone on 122.651.3, it must be done through htcdev and you still could file an insurance claim with sprint?
Is there a way to S-off the phone...I will not touch until I can do both!
So, my predicament is a little different. Prior to the OTA update (not sure what the OS version was at that time) I used the one click script root method to root my phone, it worked perfectly. With root access, I installed GooManager and installed TWRP recovery. After that I used the Panda S-Off method to get to s-off. With all three pieces in place, I never flashed a custom ROM (primarily becasue they are all Sense based ROMs and I am looking for a way to fix the multitasking issue) because I realized that I didn't clear out my Google Wallet settings prior to rooting my phone. After reading a few threads on the NFC sensitivity I decided to RUU my phone back to stock to try to recover my NFC/Google Wallet functionality. After RUUing my phone, I was surprised to see that the bootloader was still reporting s-off, but recover was back to stock and I had no root access. I was able to recover NFC and get GW working again. At this point the OTA came out, so I decided to take it. Now I am on the latest OS version 1.22.651.3 and there is no root method available except the HTC unlock. I'm just wondering if there are any "unique" options for me since I have s-off, but don't have root?
Rxpert said:
This only voids your HTC warranty. When was the last time anyone has used that?
It does NOT prevent you from getting repairs through sprint or insurance
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Really? I don't know why but I was under the impression that if you were HTCDev unlocked that it would invalidate any repairs or replacements through Sprint as well. I figured they had an agreement to communicate this to one another. Have you had personal experience that can validate this?
[edit] I suppose you would just relock the bootloader and then unroot and Sprint would have no idea you ever did anything? Is this correct?
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Really? yes I don't know why but I was under the impression that if you were HTCDev unlocked that it would invalidate any repairs or replacements through Sprint as well no. I figured they had an agreement to communicate this to one anothernope. Have you had personal experience that can validate this?taken rooted phones in before
[edit] I suppose you would just relock the bootloader and then unroot and Sprint would have no idea you ever did anything? Is this correct?
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Sprint does NOT care if you are rooted. They will still repair the device if it is not rooting that directly caused the issue. Its a company wide policy.
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If you root your phone on 122.651.3, it must be done through htcdev and you still could file an insurance claim with sprint?
Is there a way to S-off the phone...I will not touch until I can do both!
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Yes, you can can unlock via HTc dev and still get an insurance claim.
No you cannot get S-OFF (although the past S-OFF method worked even if you were already unlocked, so it may not even matter)
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Sprint does NOT care if you are rooted. They will still repair the device if it is not rooting that directly caused the issue. Its a company wide policy.
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Yes, you can can unlock via HTc dev and still get an insurance claim.
No you cannot get S-OFF (although the past S-OFF method worked even if you were already unlocked, so it may not even matter)
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So the moral of the story is if my phone is completely stock and I want to eventually fully root it either s-off I need to ignore the 1.22.651.3 update?
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Curb71 said:
So the moral of the story is if my phone is completely stock and I want to eventually fully root it either s-off I need to ignore the 1.22.651.3 update?
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Theres no reason to wait. S-OFF wont wipe your data or anything like that. Do it while you still can. You can S-OFF the device and run the bootloader customizer so it shows S-ON and locked.
Sprint will never know you rooted
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Theres no reason to wait. S-OFF wont wipe your data or anything like that. Do it while you still can. You can S-OFF the device and run the bootloader customizer so it shows S-ON and locked.
Sprint will never know you rooted
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the last time I rooted a phone was when the evo 3d dropped. so everything since then is over my head. since Im still on 651.1 I'm trying to figure out what steps I need to follow and what different options/ways of rooting there are. What's the best way? I see this way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577 and the regaw and the lazy panda and I think a few more. I just want the phone fully rooted like my evo and evo 3d were. but I'm reading about google wallet, rooting, unlocking bootloader, s-off, custom recovery, I thought this was all done in a step or two before...
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the last time I rooted a phone was when the evo 3d dropped. so everything since then is over my head. since Im still on 651.1 I'm trying to figure out what steps I need to follow and what different options/ways of rooting there are. What's the best way? I see this way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577 and the regaw and the lazy panda and I think a few more. I just want the phone fully rooted like my evo and evo 3d were. but I'm reading about google wallet, rooting, unlocking bootloader, s-off, custom recovery, I thought this was all done in a step or two before...
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It is pretty much 2 steps
Use this first (STEP 1):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then lazypanda (STEP 2).
Everythings automated. When you get S-OFF you can flash a custom ROM, or leave the one you currently have. Just remember to never take an OTA
I'd suggest running the bootloader customizer too once S-OFF has been achieved. Once again, all automated
Rxpert said:
Sprint does NOT care if you are rooted. They will still repair the device if it is not rooting that directly caused the issue. Its a company wide policy.
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Appreciate the reply. It's been years since I was a Sprint customer, last phone I had with them until now was a Blackberry Curve 8330, so their policies with various Android stuff is still new to me but I'm glad to hear it's not a big deal. I think I may actually htc unlock this weekend then and finally give some custom roms a test run.
lordelin said:
I just got my new EVO and it already loaded the new update. I was wondering if i can root it now? if not what are my options?
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Use the RegawMOD root, its automated and easy and he updated it to the 1.22....3 version, only problem I had was installing the root.zip in TWRP at the end of the install, there are real good instruction on pages 81-83 of that forum to help if you cant locate the .zip file. Worked great for me and am rooted, no s-off though will have to wait till there is a reliable exploit, the lazy panda method is too risky for me right now.
Ok, so ive only had the phone a few days and it seems to get the most out of my phone i should root it, what id like to know is the easiest way without messing up my phone,
i know very little about rooting etc thats why ive been so hesitant but if someone could give me a basic run down on what to do without messing up my phone that would be nice.
my 64GB card should be here this morning so i may as well do it once ive got that in ?
thanks.
Mike_EVO said:
Ok, so ive only had the phone a few days and it seems to get the most out of my phone i should root it, what id like to know is the easiest way without messing up my phone,
i know very little about rooting etc thats why ive been so hesitant but if someone could give me a basic run down on what to do without messing up my phone that would be nice.
my 64GB card should be here this morning so i may as well do it once ive got that in ?
thanks.
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Take a look at the sticky threads here..
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Mike_EVO said:
Ok, so ive only had the phone a few days and it seems to get the most out of my phone i should root it, what id like to know is the easiest way without messing up my phone,
i know very little about rooting etc thats why ive been so hesitant but if someone could give me a basic run down on what to do without messing up my phone that would be nice.
my 64GB card should be here this morning so i may as well do it once ive got that in ?
thanks.
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Mike - I have PM'd you some help. Note I am unclear if you are GSM/cdma and whether you have updated with OTA to ICS from GB.
Good luck.
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Bandee2 said:
Mike - I have PM'd you some help. Note I am unclear if you are GSM/cdma and whether you have updated with OTA to ICS from GB.
Good luck.
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Can you help me too i just converted from IOS to Android and im not happy with the Stock OS.Ive tried everything and even the HTCdev.Btw its CDMA
Hi Mike, Welcome to the thread.
As a new rooter to the 3d and a long time rooter of the EVO (original) I have to say I'm finding that this is much more intimidating than it really is.
Check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813818
It was a very well thought out thread and worked smoothly. The hardest part was the wire trick and I'll be honest the most intimidating. It took me 5x before I got the timing correct with how quickly I touched the ground. Outside of that it was simple.
It's true the EVO 3d is somewhat of a pickle when it comes to gaining s-off. Just a bunch of tedious steps. But its all worth it once you gain it. At least you won't have to deal with the headache of unlocked s-on.
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It's true the EVO 3d is somewhat of a pickle when it comes to gaining s-off. Just a bunch of tedious steps. But its all worth it once you gain it. At least you won't have to deal with the headache of unlocked s-on.
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I am unlocked S-on and use EXT4 Touch recovery with "smart flash" It seems to work just as if you are s-off...
I mainly deal with Samsung phones as I own an S2, I was looking into rooting my fiancee's Evo 3D to run an app to unlock contact photos for handcent, but it does seem pretty tedious to root them from the searching I've done here, unlike Odin in the Samsung world. Is there a particularly painless way to root the 3D but preserve data? Cause I doubt she'll want me to wipe it just for that, heh.
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I mainly deal with Samsung phones as I own an S2, I was looking into rooting my fiancee's Evo 3D to run an app to unlock contact photos for handcent, but it does seem pretty tedious to root them from the searching I've done here, unlike Odin in the Samsung world. Is there a particularly painless way to root the 3D but preserve data? Cause I doubt she'll want me to wipe it just for that, heh.
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Unfortunately there isn't, since you have to either HTC unlock the bootloader, which resets the phone, or flash an RUU (stock ROM) to go straight to S-OFF. Since you are not starting with root, you might want to try MyBackup from the Play Store which doesn't require root for the basic backup to save as much as you can, then root (and optionally S-OFF) and restore from the backup on the SD card.
I've recently opened a thread in the General Forum to make it easier for Sprint users to get root, and optionally S-OFF, but there's no such thing as a one click root for the Evo 3D. I tried one that was posted in the General Forum a couple of weeks ago but it didn't work on our device.
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I just received a reconditioned rezound from Verizon's warranty department. I have 10 days with both (broken and reconditioned) phones. I want to root the new phone. I figure if I use a new SD card in the new phone and follow all of Nil's Business Sense instructions that should work. Then if I put in the old SD card I would have all of my settings and apps restored. I'm not sure if that really would work, that's why I am asking you guys & gals. I didn't have the guts to root the original phone, but now I am ready. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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I just received a reconditioned rezound from Verizon's warranty department. I have 10 days with both (broken and reconditioned) phones. I want to root the new phone. I figure if I use a new SD card in the new phone and follow all of Nil's Business Sense instructions that should work. Then if I put in the old SD card I would have all of my settings and apps restored. I'm not sure if that really would work, that's why I am asking you guys & gals. I didn't have the guts to root the original phone, but now I am ready. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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SD card doesn't affect anything
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As cslingerland stated, your SD card doesn't actually affect anything. You only use it to hold the roms and whatnot to install.
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As cslingerland stated, your SD card doesn't actually affect anything. You only use it to hold the roms and whatnot to install.
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So if my SD card idea wont work, What is a good easy way to root my phone without bricking it. I thought my SD card idea was a good one, but I was off base it seems. Please help! :cyclops:
Easiest way to root the phone without bricking it? The same way everyone else does?
Unlocking Bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415615
Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20776953&postcount=80
S-OFF: http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
Flash recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339679
Return to S-ON on whichever phone you're returning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25167284#post25167284
Just a brief note that we're currently experiencing issues with the HTC Dev unlock. Their site isn't happy with us right now. Follow along here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475864&page=13
To root or not to root, that is the question
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Easiest way to root the phone without bricking it? The same way everyone else does?
Unlocking Bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415615
Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20776953&postcount=80
S-OFF: http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
Flash recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339679
Return to S-ON on whichever phone you're returning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25167284#post25167284
Just a brief note that we're currently experiencing issues with the HTC Dev unlock. Their site isn't happy with us right now. Follow along here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475864&page=13
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You call that easy? you must be a M.I.T. graduate. I graduated from Nova South Eastern University, and let me tell you, It makes no sense to me. That's why I am asking for help!
Pro tip: If you don't S-OFF, you can't brick this phone. It's actually pretty much impossible to brick unless you S-OFF. You can "soft brick" it, but you can recover. Until you S-OFF, you don't have enough access to the important stuff to actually brick, and you can do everything even when you're S-ON...some of it takes a little more work, but if you're worried about bricking, it's safer to stay S-ON.
So, I recommend staying S-ON when you're starting out. It's a big time safety net.
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You call that easy? you must be a M.I.T. graduate. I graduated from Nova South Eastern University, and let me tell you, It makes no sense to me. That's why I am asking for help!
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Which part are you having trouble with? Also, what is your ultimate goal with rooting? What are you wanting to do once rooted?
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You call that easy? you must be a M.I.T. graduate. I graduated from Nova South Eastern University, and let me tell you, It makes no sense to me. That's why I am asking for help!
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I've helped a ton of people unlock and root their phones via teamviewer. I'm guessing that you're installing a new RUU to get the latest firmware. Or trying to s off because of the sdcard comment.
If you're having problems the sdcard that you normally use could just be copied to a folder on your computer and then use it like normal, for a regular root and unlock it shouldn't wipe your sdcard.
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I've helped a ton of people unlock and root their phones via teamviewer. I'm guessing that you're installing a new RUU to get the latest firmware. Or trying to s off because of the sdcard comment.
If you're having problems the sdcard that you normally use could just be copied to a folder on your computer and then use it like normal, for a regular root and unlock it shouldn't wipe your sdcard.
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I'm A One Percenter... I did the wire trick
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I read a lot about the wire trick. Some people swear by it, others say it's a sure way to short out your phone. I've seen videos on You tube and the procedure looks pretty simple. I was nervous about voiding my warranty, but after just receiving my replacement (certified like new) Rezound, I think they just use the returned phone for parts for the next replacement, So wish me luck as I do the paper clip trick
One question... will my paid for apps live through the back-up to my sd card and back to the phone again
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I read a lot about the wire trick. Some people swear by it, others say it's a sure way to short out your phone. I've seen videos on You tube and the procedure looks pretty simple. I was nervous about voiding my warranty, but after just receiving my replacement (certified like new) Rezound, I think they just use the returned phone for parts for the next replacement, So wish me luck as I do the paper clip trick
One question... will my paid for apps live through the back-up to my sd card and back to the phone again
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If you bought them from Google play or have the apk then yeaa. Just back them up to your PC if you have the apk. And I really recommend you don't s-off.... Unless you know what you're doing. One wrong move after you s-off and you have a paper weight and not a phone any more.
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If you bought them from Google play or have the apk then yeaa. Just back them up to your PC if you have the apk. And I really recommend you don't s-off.... Unless you know what you're doing. One wrong move after you s-off and you have a paper weight and not a phone any more.
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I concur. And I'm glad you said that cslingerland. I've read so many posts from people saying "just s-off" to people who clearly aren't that well versed in all this stuff and I think that's bad advice.
I'm still s-on and I don't see a need for me to s-off since I rarely flash ROMs. I have know problem having to flash the kernel separately. And I've always liked using fastboot rather than the various tools and PH98IMG files since I like to know/be certain about what I'm doing and I don't want to end up with various PH98IMG files lying around not even knowing what they are. Turns out a lot of people don't know that a PH98IMG file can be anything, it's just a method to make things easier.
My take. If you don't plan on flashing a rom per day stay s on.
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