I know that $60 unlimited plan with T-mobile provides me with 2gb of Data however, I can never get H+ or H or 3G at all. All I get is edge is there an issue with it? Can anyone help me?
Rich_RH said:
I know that $60 unlimited plan with T-mobile provides me with 2gb of Data however, I can never get H+ or H or 3G at all. All I get is edge is there an issue with it? Can anyone help me?
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Which Galaxy SII do you have? The T-Mobile version you get directly from T-Mobile? (SGH-T989) Or the International version you bought unlocked? (GT-I9100) It makes a difference. The International version (GT-I9100) doesn't have the hardware to pick up T-Mobile's 3/4G bands, so you would NEVER get H+, H, or 3G with that phone.
If you have the T-Mobile version (SGH-T989), you're in the wrong place. You need to be in this forum.
I have the international version but i thought that t-mobile freqs are 1700 which is AWS and 2100 IMT?
or is the 2100 band AWS as well?
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GSM arena states that the t-mobile vers is 850/1700/2100 and the eu vers is 850/900/1900/2100
I know that 1700 isnt supported but isnt 2100 workable?
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I know that 1700 isnt supported but isnt 2100 workable?
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That's like trying to walk with one leg, not gonna happen, you need support for both bands kinda like what the gsm galaxy nexus has.
Rich_RH said:
I have the international version but i thought that t-mobile freqs are 1700 which is AWS and 2100 IMT?
or is the 2100 band AWS as well?
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GSM arena states that the t-mobile vers is 850/1700/2100 and the eu vers is 850/900/1900/2100
I know that 1700 isnt supported but isnt 2100 workable?
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Agree with what peachpuff said. And if I remember correctly, T- Mobile uses one of those bands for upload and one for download. So you would definitely need both.
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AFAIK the international I9100 only works fine on AT&T in the US.
HellcatDroid said:
AFAIK the international I9100 only works fine on AT&T in the US.
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Let's say you're in the U.S. and you've got the international i9100 SGS2.
And let's say you can't get an AT&T signal in the place where you most need it.
You might well say screw AT&T's 4G speeds (which don't seem all that fast anyway), just give a freaking signal.
You might then go with a pre-paid, or a pay-as-you-go, or whatever, T-mobile 2G/EDGE data plan, because it's the only thing you can do.
The situation sucks, but you have, AFAIK, no other choices.
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Does anyone have a Flyer in the US? Have you tried it on T-mobile's network? Engadget says its compatible but i'm curious to know if its compatible with their 3G or only compatible with their 2G network.
The specs say 3G Bands to be 900/2100 if I'm not mistaken and I thought that tmobile required both 1700 and 2100 to work on their network. Anyway I would like to find out for sure.
Bxsteez said:
The specs say 3G Bands to be 900/2100 if I'm not mistaken and I thought that tmobile required both 1700 and 2100 to work on their network. Anyway I would like to find out for sure.
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General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
have a look here
So if I'm gathering you are saying the Flyer has 900/1700/2100 and US T-mobile is 1700/2100. Is AWS=1700MHz band? If so that would be spectacular!!!
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So if I'm gathering you are saying the Flyer has 900/1700/2100 and US T-mobile is 1700/2100. Is AWS=1700MHz band? If so that would be spectacular!!!
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if T Mobile USA is GSM, and it seems to be, it will work for sure !
ovigt71 said:
if T Mobile USA is GSM, and it seems to be, it will work for sure !
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Just because its on GSM doesn't mean that it is compatible with their 3G network. It might be stuck on 2G.
It doesn't matter. It's too expensive to be worth buying an imported Flyer. I'm pretty sure Tmobile will be carrying this tablet in the States. Buy it on contract and save about $400.
yes but i think is wifi only.
In one of the other threads in this Flyer forum, a 3G Flyer user says no phone feature
Can this be true???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1083323
I recently purchased an unlock galaxy s2 i9100. It is supposed to be GSM unlock with HSPA+ 21Mbps/HSUPA 5.76Mbps, EDGE/GPRS Class 12, Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900, Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100 hardware capabilities. since I have gotten the phone i have not been able to connect to anything but edge. Tmobile assured me i had the correct APN setting. I would like to know if anyone know what I could to to enable the HSPA+ T mobile US uses UMTS 2100 to connect. I rooted and flashed the lite'ning rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
I am a bit of a newby and would appreciate any advice.
Nope you won't get hspa speeds on Tmobile with the current international version. You have to wait for the Tmobile variant. International version gets
3g speeds only on att.
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T mobile US uses UMTS 2100 to connect.
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This is correct. However, it's only used for one way traffic (either uploading or downloading, i'm not sure which). UMTS 1700 is used for the other direction of traffic on T-Mobile. This means no 3G/4G without both frequencies.
Your 2 options:
1. Get a T-Mobile phone.
2. Switch to AT&T.
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This is correct. However, it's only used for one way traffic (either uploading or downloading, i'm not sure which). UMTS 1700 is used for the other direction of traffic on T-Mobile. This means no 3G/4G without both frequencies.
Your 2 options:
1. Get a T-Mobile phone.
2. Switch to AT&T.
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Nope you won't get hspa speeds on Tmobile with the current international version. You have to wait for the Tmobile variant. International version gets
3g speeds only on att.
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thanks for the quick and concise responses. I have a clarification: does this mean that I when Tmobile comes out with the variant my phone will be able to upgrade to Hspa via a rom or radio update or that if i want to keep this model i will have to wait to swap it out for the tmobile version
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thanks for the quick and concise responses. I have a clarification: does this mean that I when Tmobile comes out with the variant my phone will be able to upgrade to Hspa via a rom or radio update or that if i want to keep this model i will have to wait to swap it out for the tmobile version
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The I9100 will NEVER work on T-Mobile. The SGS2 that they are releasing has different HARDWARE. There will never be a way to make the phone you have now work on T-Mobile 3G.
As others have said you'll need a different phone in order to get it to work on T-Mobile USA's 3G/4G frequencies.
You'd need a penta-band phone in order for it to work on all of them. I think Intel is curently working on that or already did but that's all there is. You'd need both 1700/2100mhz in order to use it with 3G.
I don't get how people don't research before they buy!!
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Hi, I have the white s2 i9100unlock version and when I put in my
Tmobile Sim card it says that I am running on E network instead of 4g. Is there anything I can do to change this? I contact Tmobile and they say it's the phone not their line. Please help me out because running on the E network is very slow
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The international i9100 does not support 4G. Only option would be to get a 4G enabled one.
its because the international galaxy s2 doesn't have the same 3g bands as T-Mobile (assuming you are T-Mobile USA). They run off of 1700/2100 while the phone itself supports 850/900/1900/2100. While only the 2100 band matches, if you don't get 2100 coverage in your area, you will default to 2g.
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Hi, I have the white s2 i9100unlock version and when I put in my
Tmobile Sim card it says that I am running on E network instead of 4g. Is there anything I can do to change this? I contact Tmobile and they say it's the phone not their line. Please help me out because running on the E network is very slow
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So you started another thread on this, where I also answered your question. This phone will never get HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile USA - or what they call "4G". It lacks one of the necessary frequencies for it. It will only get Edge speeds. From what I remember on how T-Mobile USA's network functions, 3G and "4G" need both 1700 and 2100 mhz to function, as it uses one frequency for download and the other for upload.
EDIT: Here's the wikipedia article on AWS, which is the band T-Mobile uses for 3G/4G. In brief, AWS uses 1700 Mhz for uplink, and 2100 Mhz for downlink. So since it only gets half of the band, it won't do "4G".
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its because the international galaxy s2 doesn't have the same 3g bands as T-Mobile (assuming you are T-Mobile USA). They run off of 1700/2100 while the phone itself supports 850/900/1900/2100. While only the 2100 band matches, if you don't get 2100 coverage in your area, you will default to 2g.
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Unfortunately, the bolded/underlined part is simply not true. T-Mobile USA needs your phone to be able to get both 1700 mhz and 2100 mhz UMTS frequencies to do 3G/4G. If your phone doesn't have one of the frequencies, it won't do 3G/4G at all, and fall to Edge (2.5G).
What if I overall another ROM? Will it help?
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Tkdinh101 said:
What if I overall another ROM? Will it help?
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No. The phone simply doesn't have the hardware to receive the frequency. Nothing you can do to fix this.
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its because the international galaxy s2 doesn't have the same 3g bands as T-Mobile (assuming you are T-Mobile USA). They run off of 1700/2100 while the phone itself supports 850/900/1900/2100. While only the 2100 band matches, if you don't get 2100 coverage in your area, you will default to 2g.
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Wow that's weird, here in aus you only need to match one freq to get 3g. Do you know what t-mobile has done to require two bands to match? (its just my curiosity asking)
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Tkdinh101 said:
Hi, I have the white s2 i9100unlock version and when I put in my
Tmobile Sim card it says that I am running on E network instead of 4g. Is there anything I can do to change this? I contact Tmobile and they say it's the phone not their line. Please help me out because running on the E network is very slow
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You need Galaxy2 HD LTE to access 4G. That particular model is not available outside Korea at the moment. If you want 4G, try Samsung Galaxy Note or LG Optimus LTE - also known as Nitro HD, or HTC phones.
Visentinel said:
Wow that's weird, here in aus you only need to match one freq to get 3g. Do you know what t-mobile has done to require two bands to match? (its just my curiosity asking)
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That indeed is weird and inconvenient, but I guess telco's can setup their system however they like... It may have lot to do with number of people using mobile services. In OZ we have 22 million potential mobile users using 4 major telco companies, whereas in USA, they would get most of OZ population just in New York city, let alone rest of the country.
Ah systemcrasher I think they might be load balancing the hspa+ mimo across the two freqs. Telstra nextg doesn't need to coz there's allot less people here.
If that's the case still should be allowed to fall back to a non mimo mode.
Let this be a lesson to the OP, always research all carrier pre requisites before buying, also consider other carriers encased you'd like to stay open to other options.
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Visentinel said:
Wow that's weird, here in aus you only need to match one freq to get 3g. Do you know what t-mobile has done to require two bands to match? (its just my curiosity asking)
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Visentinel said:
Ah systemcrasher I think they might be load balancing the hspa+ mimo across the two freqs. Telstra nextg doesn't need to coz there's allot less people here.
If that's the case still should be allowed to fall back to a non mimo mode.
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That indeed is weird and inconvenient, but I guess telco's can setup their system however they like... It may have lot to do with number of people using mobile services. In OZ we have 22 million potential mobile users using 4 major telco companies, whereas in USA, they would get most of OZ population just in New York city, let alone rest of the country.
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EDIT: Here's the wikipedia article on AWS, which is the band T-Mobile uses for 3G/4G. In brief, AWS uses 1700 Mhz for uplink, and 2100 Mhz for downlink. So since it only gets half of the band, it won't do "4G".
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So the answer is the link to the wikipedia article in my quote above. It's not T-Mobile USA's doing per se - they just purchased the AWS-1 (also known as UMTS band IV) band of the spectrum. That's just the way this band is set up. Wind and Rogers in Canada also use this band.
Once unlocked,will the i777 be able to access data at 3G and 4G speeds on T-Mobile USA's cellular network?
monoloco1 said:
Once unlocked,will the i777 be able to access data at 3G and 4G speeds on T-Mobile USA's cellular network?
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to put it plainly,
NO
the i777 does not support the required bands for accessing TMobile's 3g/4g network.
Had the merger gone through, possibly. But as of right now, no.
Tmobile is on 1700MHz and 2100MHZ while AT&T is on 850MHz and 1900MHz.
No, and this is the case for every AT&T device in existence to my knowledge.
In fact, the ONLY device I know of that is not sold by T-Mobile and supports their HSPA bands is the GSM Galaxy Nexus, which is one of the first (if not the first) phones to do pentaband HSPA.
Personnally I tested the Unlock Process with a T-Mobile SimCard...not sure if working properly due to a operation range described by the fellows
Entropy512 said:
No, and this is the case for every AT&T device in existence to my knowledge.
In fact, the ONLY device I know of that is not sold by T-Mobile and supports their HSPA bands is the GSM Galaxy Nexus, which is one of the first (if not the first) phones to do pentaband HSPA.
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actually....
in even more bastardization provided by Samsung, the skyrocket can work on TMobile's 3/4G as long as you flash a TMo modem.bin to it.
jcomana said:
Personnally I tested the Unlock Process with a T-Mobile SimCard...not sure if working properly due to a operation range described by the fellows
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You can still get 2G on T-Mo because T-Mo uses the standard 850/1900 for 2G. What OP asks is 3G/4G.
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No, and this is the case for every AT&T device in existence to my knowledge.
In fact, the ONLY device I know of that is not sold by T-Mobile and supports their HSPA bands is the GSM Galaxy Nexus, which is one of the first (if not the first) phones to do pentaband HSPA.
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Actualy the T-Mobile version of the Samsung Galaxy SII Can work on AT&T`s 3G network. with BETTER Speeds than the AT&T version Data wise
hyelton said:
Actualy the T-Mobile version of the Samsung Galaxy SII Can work on AT&T`s 3G network. with BETTER Speeds than the AT&T version Data wise
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How is that an exception to what I'm saying. The T-Mobile version is not a device sold by AT&T, and is, by definition, a device sold by T-Mobile.
It's always been a bit easier to get T-Mo phones to work on AT&T - a number of them support the AT&T bands. But it's never been easy (and with the possible exception of the Skyrocket, never even possible) to go the other way without losing 3G.
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How is that an exception to what I'm saying. The T-Mobile version is not a device sold by AT&T, and is, by definition, a device sold by T-Mobile.
It's always been a bit easier to get T-Mo phones to work on AT&T - a number of them support the AT&T bands. But it's never been easy (and with the possible exception of the Skyrocket, never even possible) to go the other way without losing 3G.
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exactly. The skyrocket is the ONLY at&t phone i have seen that has this capability, and i have been hacking away on phones for a while, and i have both carriers
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to put it plainly,
NO
the i777 does not support the required bands for accessing TMobile's 3g/4g network.
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That would be the obvious answer based on the published specs, but I found an unselected listing in the hidden modem/ band settings for WCDMA 1700 MHz (Band IV) on my i777. I don't know if it works, but it's listed. From the phone keypad on the stock version, type in *#2263# and then look under Combinations. The phone lists 7 different GSM/PCS/WCDMA frequencies and only the obvious 5 are selected.
Anyone with an unlocked i777 on Tmo want to try it out?
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Even though there is a setting for wcdma on 1700, it doesn't seem to make a difference. Still stuck on edge.
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desertflyer said:
Even though there is a setting for wcdma on 1700, it doesn't seem to make a difference. Still stuck on edge.
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WCDMA is 2G/Edge technology. HSPA is 3G/4G technology.
maybe it will possible if we can flash a T-Mobile midem on out phone with out breaking it
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maybe it will possible if we can flash a T-Mobile midem on out phone with out breaking it
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Unlikely. Unless the phone has the hardware support for it.
I found out after extensive research on the Nexus One, that even though the radio chip inside it supports both frequency sets (pentaband, I suppose); the power amplifiers were only connected to certain frequency outputs, depending on the carrier it was advertised for. Which means even if I flashed a T-Mobile radio, the signal wouldn't be strong enough to get outside the case of the phone, let alone to a cell tower.
Your best bet is with European phones, as I believe they use the same frequencies as T-Mobile (since they're owned by a euro company).
Someone should confirm, but I would guess that the I9100 will work on T-Mobile with 3G.
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Unlikely. Unless the phone has the hardware support for it.
I found out after extensive research on the Nexus One, that even though the radio chip inside it supports both frequency sets (pentaband, I suppose); the power amplifiers were only connected to certain frequency outputs, depending on the carrier it was advertised for. Which means even if I flashed a T-Mobile radio, the signal wouldn't be strong enough to get outside the case of the phone, let alone to a cell tower.
Your best bet is with European phones, as I believe they use the same frequencies as T-Mobile (since they're owned by a euro company).
Someone should confirm, but I would guess that the I9100 will work on T-Mobile with 3G.
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No.
Tmo's AWS band its an odd ball. Only certain Canadian Carriers use the same band.
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Red5 said:
WCDMA is 2G/Edge technology. HSPA is 3G/4G technology.
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No, WCMDA = UMTS = pure vanilla 3G.
2G = GSM/GPRS
"2.5G" = EDGE
3G = vanilla UMTS (WCDMA)
3.5G = HSDPA
3.75G = HSPA+
3.9G (it's not really 4G) = LTE
true 4G = LTE Advanced
Most phones, even if they support advanced modulation schemes (HSPA, HSPA+) will list the band support as "UMTSxxxx or WCDMAxxxx"
I heard (it's actually confirmed, can't find the article), T-Mo has the same 3G bands as AT&T in some remote part of the USA, I think somewhere in Washington state, not sure though? The OP might want to move there
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I heard (it's actually confirmed, can't find the article), T-Mo has the same 3G bands as AT&T in some remote part of the USA, I think somewhere in Washington state, not sure though? The OP might want to move there
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That might explain why the Vibrant apparently supported one (but not both) of AT&T's bands.
As I understand it, unlike the N1, the international HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus is full-blown pentaband.
Tmo has roaming agreement with at&t. So it is possible in places there is no tmo tower, your tmo phone could roam to at&t tower without showing the roaming sign.
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I heard (it's actually confirmed, can't find the article), T-Mo has the same 3G bands as AT&T in some remote part of the USA, I think somewhere in Washington state, not sure though? The OP might want to move there
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I am thinking about trying to get an sgs iii and wondering if it is possible to get it on the $30.00 mo 100min unl data plan through walmart?
I have the exhibit ii on this plan, had it for a couple months, anybody know how I would do this?
If it will work with Tmobile band why not, best to ask the source. I don't think we have a Wal Mart rep guru here.
Sure you can, if you don't want 3G.
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You have prepaid plan, you can put your sim into just about any unlocked GSM phone (and T-Mobile phones) and use it. If you want a good phone right now, get the Galaxy Nexus (GSM), it supports T-Mobile 3G (1700/2100 band). T-Mobile version of SIII will be coming later.
thanks for the responses, a Galaxy Nexus is probably a more realistic option than the sgs3 price wise, going to take a good look at it on the play store.
cheers.
T-Mobile and AT&T both support compatible band.
the SGS3 uses HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
T-Mobile uses HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
AT&T uses HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
now we play match the bands. we see at&t shares 3 bands with the international SGS3, thats great. T-Mobile shares 1, not as awesome, but 1 band is enough.
its true what theyre saying up there about "only having 2G", well i should correct myself, it WAS true. however recently T-Mobile has upgraded their 2100 band to 3G, as theyve been expanding. so it will work fine on Walmart's plan, as they use T-Mobile's network.
T-Mobile will come out with an SGS3 later in the year, for SGS2 it was 6 months behind the international version. the T-Mobile version will use HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100. what do more compatible bands mean? well it means if youre in an area you normally wouldnt get good 2100 band signal, you may get 1700 signal. if you live in the city, youll see no difference at all, its only when youre in rural areas.
so in short; you can totally use the i9300 SGS3 on tmobiles network, and yes, you will have HSDPA 3G
soraxd said:
T-Mobile uses HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
now we play match the bands. we see at&t shares 3 bands with the international SGS3, thats great. T-Mobile shares 1, not as awesome, but 1 band is enough.
its true what theyre saying up there about "only having 2G", well i should correct myself, it WAS true. however recently T-Mobile has upgraded their 2100 band to 3G, as theyve been expanding. so it will work fine on Walmart's plan, as they use T-Mobile's network.
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Could really use a source for this, please. Everything i've looked up has suggested that their HSPA+ is only 1700 and 2100, and that phones with only 2100 would not work.
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Could really use a source for this, please. Everything i've looked up has suggested that their HSPA+ is only 1700 and 2100, and that phones with only 2100 would not work.
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you know what, i made a mistake, i was using this
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4261
looking at the bands the T-Mobile One S (along with all other tmobile phones) support, but the 900 band is just added to the phone so it can be used if taken abroad. so my mistake.
to reiterate the sgs3 will only work on 2g on tmobile, it will only work on at&t for 3g.
im glad you questioned it, i would have gone along giving bad information