Ok, with all of the confusing data here, what is relevant and working for the Photon in regards to:
Rooting:
Unlocking:
Flashing:
First of all, this should be in the "Q&A" or "General" section because it does not contribute to the development of Photon.
Rooting: Can be done.
Unlocking: Can be done, but breaks 4G.
Flashing: Can be done after unlocking and then re-locked to gain 4G.
tuxytuxy said:
First of all, this should be in the "Q&A" or "General" section because it does not contribute to the development of Photon.
Rooting: Can be done.
Unlocking: Can be done, but breaks 4G.
Flashing: Can be done after unlocking and then re-locked to gain 4G.
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Oh, so 4G does work after relocking? I wasn't totally sure.
Fail much?! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227867
It's on the first page of this forum too.
tuxytuxy said:
Fail much?! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227867
It's on the first page of this forum too.
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That's been superceeded by nopudding4u, trying to find that thread.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216999
ping33tx said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216999
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Been looking at that. Also used http://forums.acsyndicate.net/showt...lash-Roms-Kernels-Themes!-(11-videos)-9-28-11 to root the phone so far (and do the locked bootstrap). About to attempt a look at the unlocking.
just so I know the procedure can goes as follows , Root, Custom Recovery, then Unlock Bootloader correct?
kusanagi-sama said:
Been looking at that. Also used http://forums.acsyndicate.net/showt...lash-Roms-Kernels-Themes!-(11-videos)-9-28-11 to root the phone so far (and do the locked bootstrap). About to attempt a look at the unlocking.
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The one click root works perfect just make sure you have ur device in debugging mode checked.and run pudding sbf file to unlock and install Tenfar system recovery and then use that recovery and you can install CWM instead of running fastboot on adb.
Jo_795 said:
just so I know the procedure can goes as follows , Root, Custom Recovery, then Unlock Bootloader correct?
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No, root, unlock bootloader, custom recovery.
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Now we have two distinct root methods for the N1. 1) Unlock the bootloader using fastboot and proceed accordingly. 2) Use the new method described with adb in recovery mode.
Going forward, certain tutorials and methods may only be applicable to one method and not the other, or will provide separate methods for each case. So maybe we need some new terminology.
Original root method using fastboot = "boot-rooted"?
New root method using adb in recovery mode = "rec-rooted"?
Feel free to get more imaginative.
Good idea. But are there any differences between the two methods other than the locked bootloader thing?
aboda7es said:
Good idea. But are there any differences between the two methods other than the locked bootloader thing?
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Well one thing I notice is that some of the modding threads (e.g. how to restore your Nexus One to stock) contain instructions that involve Fastboot. I'm assuming that if your bootloader is still locked, you won't be using Fastboot to accomplish this step.
I believe you can still use PASSIMGs on a locked bootloader,so some of those guides could still work on a rec-rooted Nexus.
How about fast-root and hacked-root?
N3xt2N0N3 said:
How about fast-root and hacked-root?
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Sounds Good...it has my vote
Fast-root works...
Hacked-root I'm not sure about - cause really, both methods are pretty hacktastic
How about true-root and lazy-root?
In any case, functionality of the root access is still the same - the only difference is whether your bootloader is unlocked or not. I don't think two different terminologies are required - a tutorial can just have two sections; one for people having unlocked bootloader, and other for locked.
I dont see why it makes a difference but
oem-root for fastboot oem unlock
and
sd-root for the sdcard loop one (hmm sounds like it could be confused with sd root directory)
or
loop-root
N3xt2N0N3 said:
How about fast-root and hacked-root?
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Sounds Great!
rohandhruva said:
In any case, functionality of the root access is still the same - the only difference is whether your bootloader is unlocked or not. I don't think two different terminologies are required - a tutorial can just have two sections; one for people having unlocked bootloader, and other for locked.
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considering that those with unlocked bootloaders can use the same method as those with locked loaders, i think the unroot tut itself should be changed to use the PASSIMG.zip
theres no need to go through all the hassle of doing a nandroid restore imo
I am using a Motorola Atrix with 4.5.91 build. I rooted my Atrix without unlocking the bootloader which is why I am getting a (Failed to boot 2 Starting in RSD Mode) message when i try to use Rom Manager to back up my current Rom. Do I have to unroot my Atrix in order to unlock it and if so how do I unroot it.
You have to unlock your bootloader n root your phone. Search the topics
Lovepeacestudios
My question was does it have to be done in that certain order. Unlock Bootloader then root.
Sousuke_Kira_Alexein said:
My question was does it have to be done in that certain order. Unlock Bootloader then root.
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No it doesn't matter...
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Sousuke_Kira_Alexein said:
I am using a Motorola Atrix with 4.5.91 build. I rooted my Atrix without unlocking the bootloader which is why I am getting a (Failed to boot 2 Starting in RSD Mode) message when i try to use Rom Manager to back up my current Rom. Do I have to unroot my Atrix in order to unlock it and if so how do I unroot it.
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try to follow the order and see if its worked. any particular reason why you need not to follow the order?
Sousuke_Kira_Alexein said:
My question was does it have to be done in that certain order. Unlock Bootloader then root.
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mramirezusa's auto scripts really help on this. Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
Does the hardware on the HTC Flyer check the bootloader's digital signature?
Can anyone answer this?
I am bumping this thread again.
Will someone please answer this question?
It comes from the store locked, but you can unlock it by going to
http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/
They will allow an unlock, but you lose your warranty.
quickquest88 said:
It comes from the store locked, but you can unlock it by going to
http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/
They will allow an unlock, but you lose your warranty.
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He means if the boot loader is locked, not the carrier. And also to the OP, do you mean read-write access to the boot loader or something else?
I want to know if the first stage bootloader is signature checked by the HTC Flyer's boot ROM. If it isn't then the locked bootloader problem can be solved by simple overwriting it. And yes, read/write access would be required to overwrite the bootloader.
Master Melab said:
I want to know if the first stage bootloader is signature checked by the HTC Flyer's boot ROM. If it isn't then the locked bootloader problem can be solved by simple overwriting it. And yes, read/write access would be required to overwrite the bootloader.
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Well i would say no. You can't get a custom boot loader to load 2 roms or anything yet. No access at all, read or write.
Master Melab said:
I want to know if the first stage bootloader is signature checked by the HTC Flyer's boot ROM. If it isn't then the locked bootloader problem can be solved by simple overwriting it. And yes, read/write access would be required to overwrite the bootloader.
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No it isn't, it's actually easy to edit a bootloader, it's getting it onto the device that's hard.
I still would like to know if the bootloader itself is signature checked.
well then read my last post.
The only thing your previous post tells me is that accessing the area where the bootloader resides is difficult.
The the "no it isn't" doesn't mean anything?
Sorry. I thought you were talking about simple read/write access.
Master Melab,
PM me is you have specific questions, you can post a summary after that if you want.
I messaged you my questions.
curious about what youre getting at,so subscribing
Master Melab said:
I messaged you my questions.
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yep, got it. I'll try to reply this evening.
Thank you.
globatron said:
No it isn't, it's actually easy to edit a bootloader, it's getting it onto the device that's hard.
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if its fairly easy to edit a bootloader, is it not possible to patch the HC hboot to think the radio is s-off(like the revolutinary does),then simply install that hboot in place of the real one,when following the HC install guide?
seems after one roots GB with revolutionary,it should be fairly easy to get an s-off HC hboot for someone who knows how to do such things what am i missing?
Ive got an unlocked XZU, its the c6806 version, and its running 4.3. Anyone know a root method for this? I am also trying to flash custom roms as well.
Phaze1585 said:
Ive got an unlocked XZU, its the c6806 version, and its running 4.3. Anyone know a root method for this? I am also trying to flash custom roms as well.
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Since you have unlocked bootloader flash boot image of desired custom rom using fastboot and then flash rom and gapps via recovery.
Phaze1585 said:
Ive got an unlocked XZU, its the c6806 version, and its running 4.3. Anyone know a root method for this? I am also trying to flash custom roms as well.
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There is a whole thread or three devoted to this, have a good read through the stickies in the general section
techpal said:
Since you have unlocked bootloader flash boot image of desired custom rom using fastboot and then flash rom and gapps via recovery.
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I dont quite understand. Are you saying, that sense my bootloader is already unlocked, that I dont even need to root my device?
Phaze1585 said:
I dont quite understand. Are you saying, that sense my bootloader is already unlocked, that I dont even need to root my device?
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You don't need to run an exploit to gain root.
Once you have an unlocked bootloader all you have to do is flash a kernel with recovery, boot into recovery and then flash SuperSU - more or less
Phaze1585 said:
I dont quite understand. Are you saying, that sense my bootloader is already unlocked, that I dont even need to root my device?
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Ya you dont need to root before installing Roms like CM,PA,etc. as they are already prerooted.
For safer side you can always flash Super Su.zip in recovery after flashing custom rom like CM,PA.
techpal said:
Ya you dont need to root before installing Roms like CM,PA,etc. as they are already prerooted.
For safer side you can always flash Super Su.zip in recovery after flashing custom rom like CM,PA.
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Thank you. Does my phone already come with its own recovery? I know im coming off as a noob, but this is my first time trying to do his for anything besides a samsung Note.
techpal said:
Ya you dont need to root before installing Roms like CM,PA,etc. as they are already prerooted.
For safer side you can always flash Super Su.zip in recovery after flashing custom rom like CM,PA.
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But you do need root to back up the TA partition before unlocking the bootloader before being able to boot roms like PA, CM etc
I don't want to open another threat but is there any way to root 290 (4.3) on my C6833? Do I need to go down first? My bootloader is still locked and I would like to backup TA partition firs just in case. So first I need to do is get SU in somehow to be able to backup TA. After that I will be rrady for bootloader I guess.
So is there any way to rot 290? I did try some methods but non of them works. I really need that GPE on me ZU. :fingers-crossed:
simunovic said:
I don't want to open another threat but is there any way to root 290 (4.3) on my C6833? Do I need to go down first? My bootloader is still locked and I would like to backup TA partition firs just in case. So first I need to do is get SU in somehow to be able to backup TA. After that I will be rrady for bootloader I guess.
So is there any way to rot 290? I did try some methods but non of them works. I really need that GPE on me ZU. :fingers-crossed:
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Read the stickies in the general section, that is what they are there for...
blueether said:
Read the stickies in the general section, that is what they are there for...
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None if that is working on 290. I can not unlock bootloader before I make backup of TA. So that I did not try. I simply can not find any root that works on 290. I love my Zu but I already missing my N5.
simunovic said:
None if that is working on 290. I can not unlock bootloader before I make backup of TA. So that I did not try. I simply can not find any root that works on 290. I love my Zu but I already missing my N5.
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READ THE STICKY
it is all explained here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
Do the first two orange steps
Then the three purple
Then move on to flashing roms etc
Simples
blueether said:
READ THE STICKY
it is all explained here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
Do the first two orange steps
Then the three purple
Then move on to flashing roms etc
Simples
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Root with restore by byn4ry v33 did not work on my c6833 (option 3). The proces just stopped after restore screen on Zu. If I downgrade my Zu then I will also have older baseband. If i downgrade, root and go back to 290 will i loose root? Is there any way to keep it? All I am trying to do is keep latest baseband with GPE rom.
simunovic said:
Root with restore by byn4ry v33 did not work on my c6833 (option 3). The proces just stopped after restore screen on Zu. If I downgrade my Zu then I will also have older baseband. If i downgrade, root and go back to 290 will i loose root? Is there any way to keep it? All I am trying to do is keep latest baseband with GPE rom.
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<SIGH>
Downgrade to .532 ftf (you will lose IMEI and cell reception if on .290)
Root with Bin4ry's tool - option 0
Back up TA
Unlock bootloader
Flash .290 ftf (all of it)
install recovery (look in the general thread for jackies post - read the unlocked BL thread) or flash the one in the rom if it has recovery
boot into recovery
flash GPe ROM
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proffit
all of the above is off the top of my head as I cant be buggered to look it all up, but YOU should. Don't blame me if you brick the phone etc
Do all of the above with the latest flashtool etc and a full battery - avoid black cats
blueether said:
<SIGH>
Downgrade to .532 ftf (you will lose IMEI and cell reception if on .290)
Root with Bin4ry's tool - option 0
Back up TA
Unlock bootloader
Flash .290 ftf (all of it)
install recovery (look in the general thread for jackies post - read the unlocked BL thread) or flash the one in the rom if it has recovery
boot into recovery
flash GPe ROM
???
proffit
all of the above is off the top of my head as I cant be buggered to look it all up, but YOU should. Don't blame me if you brick the phone etc
Do all of the above with the latest flashtool etc and a full battery - avoid black cats
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That's my ultimate fear in all of this with a locked BL - I have had way too many black cats in my life in the past year... I just can't bring myself to take the plunge after all the bricks.
blueether said:
But you do need root to back up the TA partition before unlocking the bootloader before being able to boot roms like PA, CM etc
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But since he already has unlocked bootloader it doesnt matter if he doest TA partition. Thts why I didn't said about TA partition,
Anyways after unlocking bootloader its of no use if has backed TA partition or no.
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But since he already has unlocked bootloader it doesnt matter if he doest TA partition. Thts why I didn't said about TA partition,
I also assumed as he has unlocked bootloader so he would have done TA partition.
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It was more as a warning to others, there has been a spat of people in the last two weeks that can't/won't read stickies and have unlocked the BL with no backup - so the more places people see the instructions the better
blueether said:
It was more as a warning to others, there has been a spat of people in the last two weeks that can't/won't read stickies and have unlocked the BL with no backup - so the more places people see the instructions the better
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Agree with you on this
help needed as i am really lost
i am new to sony x z ultra, tried for 2 days to use the little piece left in my brain to root my device and went through a lot and nothing!
my request is simple I need a one click rooting procedure (device data: model(c6833) - android 4.3 - build # 14.2.A.0.290) or detailed steps for noops
sorry for being so dum but where else to go or who I can ask for help except here
123eb said:
i am new to sony x z ultra, tried for 2 days to use the little piece left in my brain to root my device and went through a lot and nothing!
my request is simple I need a one click rooting procedure (device data: model(c6833) - android 4.3 - build # 14.2.A.0.290) or detailed steps for noops
sorry for being so dum but where else to go or who I can ask for help except here
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There's no 'one-click' rooting procedure.
There are, however, very detailed, in-depth, easy-to-follow instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
It takes the slightest bit of effort to find all the information you're looking for - at least try.
Hi, have been reading posts here, but I'm trying to get a grasp on all involved to root my phone. I am pc literate but this is all new.
One site I got instructions on, https://www.thenextdroid.com/root-motorola-moto-g-play-2021-pc-via-magisk/, does not mention unlocking Bootloader with magisk~ just run magisk. Zip, Android it's rooted.
So my question, is that does the magisk v23 unlock Bootloader for you, or was that nugget just left out of this article?
I am obviously not new to this so would appreciate any counsel on this~ it does seem too easy 2 be right, but would appreciate some verification.
Thanks in advance
Roger S
rnshepard said:
Hi, have been reading posts here, but I'm trying to get a grasp on all involved to root my phone. I am pc literate but this is all new.
One site I got instructions on, https://www.thenextdroid.com/root-motorola-moto-g-play-2021-pc-via-magisk/, does not mention unlocking Bootloader with magisk~ just run magisk. Zip, Android it's rooted.
So my question, is that does the magisk v23 unlock Bootloader for you, or was that nugget just left out of this article?
I am obviously not new to this so would appreciate any counsel on this~ it does seem too easy 2 be right, but would appreciate some verification.
Thanks in advance
Roger S
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You must unlock the bootloader first.
[Guide]Un/locking Motorola Bootloader
UnLocking and ReLocking Motorola Bootloader https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a Moto Bootloader Unlocking site Re-Locking see Post #4 More about bootloader UnLocking Post #2 Can my...
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rnshepard said:
Hi, have been reading posts here, but I'm trying to get a grasp on all involved to root my phone. I am pc literate but this is all new.
One site I got instructions on, https://www.thenextdroid.com/root-motorola-moto-g-play-2021-pc-via-magisk/, does not mention unlocking Bootloader with magisk~ just run magisk. Zip, Android it's rooted.
So my question, is that does the magisk v23 unlock Bootloader for you, or was that nugget just left out of this article?
I am obviously not new to this so would appreciate any counsel on this~ it does seem too easy 2 be right, but would appreciate some verification.
Thanks in advance
Roger S
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For unlocking the bootloader I followed the instructions from Dr.E (Max Lee) here
it still works for all Motorola devices currently and I used magisk to flash my stock firmware boot.img to root I also installed a twrp image from this forum I went into 2 bootloops trying to root this phone but I can say it's way better rooted than locked
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For unlocking the bootloader I followed the instructions from Dr.E (Max Lee) here
it still works for all Motorola devices currently and I used magisk to flash my stock firmware boot.img to root I also installed a twrp image from this forum I went into 2 bootloops trying to root this phone but I can say it's way better rooted than locked
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The bootloops were caused by my own negligence and trial and error