[Q] gen8 vs gen9 comparison. others. rom issues? - Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I've almost made decision to buy 101 gen8 for my girlfriend as a first (budget) tablet, but just wanted to ask for your opinion. Especially for specific issues/limitations that gen8 might have as opposed to G9.
I had 101 G9 for a couple of days for testing and we liked it. But it's a more expensive option and not really offering that much more I think. To sum up differences:
1. On G8 real-use speed (processor) should be fine, not much worse than G9 I hope
2. screen not much worse according to reviews ? (apart from the angles which are told to be much worse)
3. one less usb port in G8, not a big issue (the G8 port should work with 3G stick too I presume)
4. no GPS in G9, not that needed here too
5. android version and ram available- and this might be an issue as only ICS might be available and not officially I guess -what are the clear advantages of honeycomb over froyo? I still don't know..
6. flash support- on G9 it generally worked in websites, on gen8 I'll have to mess with it I guess and the result will still be worse ? Is it a different flash version or just less working due to system ?
7. firmware/rom issues - I read in some posts there were some unresolved issues couple of months ago in G8. What is the current state of buggy-ness there considering newest updates? :/
8. anything else? battery performance looks to be about the same..
Thanks

G9 is much better, at least for me...
I had a 101 Gen8 for about 1 Year, and now I have a Gen9 80, and for me it is much better :
- G9 CPU has 2 Cores, G8 only 1
- Screen is much better
- My USB Host Port on G8 was broken after 1 Month, this happens a lot (read Forum), 3G on G8 works if you install UrukDroid, not in Stock Rom (Drivers missing)
- All G9 has GPS
- Android 3.2.1 is better for tablet, and in real Live it's true
- On my G8 101, I never had Deep Sleep, that means my Battery drains fast in Standby. That was the biggest Issue for me and the reason why I changed.
On G9 I have Deep Sleep
Have Fun...
Nicusasch

yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?

with new gen8 firmware
the Archos 3g dongle working on 101 gen8

yes the USB Host stops working, nothing happens on plug in USB Device.
My Last G8 Firmware was 2.4.80, and with this no Deep Sleep.
Remark : with the Cyanogen Mod from AOS, deep sleep is working, but in the Beta there are other Issues.
For a Month ago I decided to contact Archos Support about my two Issues (USB and Deep Sleep), I wrote the an Email and no arnswer until today
My Lucky was that I bought it by Amazon, I send the Device to Amazon and after 3 Days I became the Full Money Back. Since this, I am a big Fan from Amazon
With this Money I bought my new Gen 9 80...
Ciao
Nicusasch
przemke said:
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
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usb died on my 101 as well. I mainly use it for surfing, so haven't sent in for warranty support yet. To get an RMA for your device it is best to call, as they are very slow responding to mail.
Screen on Gen 9 is way better than Gen 8 101. Also, unless rooted, there is a limit on the apps partition in Gen 8, so if you want to install a lot of apps and don't want to root, you may run up against this. I am not a heavy apps user, but I did run up against this limitation. No apps limitation, in gen 9.
Also, more RAM on Gen 9. Browser on Gen 8 frequently shuts down if you have too many pages open.
The gen 8 is still a good device for the money, but does have some limitations. Btw, I have the Gen 9 80, not the 101

OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?

przemke said:
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
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Flash 10.3 works best on my gen8. However it is very stuttery when trying to play video from amazon. Flash 11 is worse. I am using flash 11 on my gen 9 and movies play much smoother.
You tube app on gen8 works fine.
You might look at http://forum.archosfans.com/index.php.

Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found

(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...

przemke said:
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
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Did you see it in real ? I'd suggest to try to see all models running before taking a decision. G2 is IPS, but I've seen one and it appeared poor quality to me, certainly not equivalent to Samsung/Motorola or even Acer
I didn't have the 101 gen8 at the same time to compare, but in my memory they feels about the same quality.
my personal feeling regarding screen quality is: Gen9 > 70 Gen 8 > 101 Gen8, Arnova G2.
Regarding processing power, don't take ARM and GHZ value as a criteria. All of them are ARM, and GPU / # of cores / SOC (I'd say in this order for Android) are more interesting criteria.
Memory is a very important criteria, 512 MB memory is good, the 256 of Gen8s are a bit low.

TjaXanK said:
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
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I've also received quite fast responses but it seems me and the (I guess french) party on the dark side kinda did not get a point together )

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[Q] G Tablet vs Viewpad 10s

I'm trying to decide on a tablet for myself.
Thought about the nook but the 7" screen dissuaded me.
Specs:
G http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet/spec.htm
10s http://ap.viewsonic.com/za/products/viewpad/viewpad10s/specs.php
Now I'm down to the G Tablet ($360) and the ViewPad 10s ($399)
10s to GTablet Comparison: (legend: + Pro, - Con, ? unknown)
+ seems to have a better screen (larger viewing angles)
+ HDMI port
- 512MB internal flash (not too bad if apps2sdext is possible)
- Lesser capacity battery (3300 vs 3650 mAh)
? developer support ? will there be a xda forum and support (ROMs)
Other questions:
The 10s has an accelerometer (g-sensor)
Does the G Tablet have an Accelometer? Magnetometer (compass)?
Please help me decide. thanks.
Yes accelerometer, no magnetometer.
Doesn't the 10s have 3G connectivity as well as GPS? GPS would be nice to have, but not a necessity. And the 3G connection is a bit of overkill unless you're traveling all the time. Pretty hard to find a place nowadays without wifi.
From what I've heard, the screen in the 10s is the same as the gtablet. Or at least shares the same viewing angle concerns.
Also, I'm not sure where you're posting from, but the 10s is a Eurpoean model. but I'm sure you can get it on ebay for the US.
Thanks for your answers.
Kayak83 said:
Doesn't the 10s have 3G connectivity as well as GPS? GPS would be nice to have, but not a necessity. And the 3G connection is a bit of overkill unless you're traveling all the time. Pretty hard to find a place nowadays without wifi.
From what I've heard, the screen in the 10s is the same as the gtablet. Or at least shares the same viewing angle concerns.
Also, I'm not sure where you're posting from, but the 10s is a Eurpoean model. but I'm sure you can get it on ebay for the US.
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I dont need 3G coz my Nexus can tether for free , same reason I dont need another GPS too.
JR.com is taking pre-orders
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_VIEWPAD10S/
I'm pretty confused....
So from the hours of research that I have done, from what I understand (and correct me if i'm wrong) there are 3 tablets coming out from Viewsonic. . . The Viewpad 10, Viewpad 10s (European and Asian markets), and a Viewpad 10 Pro.
From what I have read, the 10 Pro will also be dual boot, Windows 7 and Android 2.2. The one thing that confuses me besides all of the mixed information out there, is that....
1) Android 2.2 will be native (dual boot).
2) Android 2.2 will "work within a VM" which is launched within Windows 7.
Has anyone else closely researched Viewsonic's new tablet lineup?
Thanks.
The major difference between the G Tablet and Viewpad is CPU. For G Tablet we have Tegra2 which will be a reference design for Android 3. Viewpad should be using Intel Atom CPU to be able to run Windows7. I think it will have much worse support from xda. So if you want Windows and terrible battery live - choose Viewpad. If you want Android 3 Honeycomb - G Tablet.
ivan.volosyuk said:
The major difference between the G Tablet and Viewpad is CPU. For G Tablet we have Tegra2 which will be a reference design for Android 3. Viewpad should be using Intel Atom CPU to be able to run Windows7. I think it will have much worse support from xda. So if you want Windows and terrible battery live - choose Viewpad. If you want Android 3 Honeycomb - G Tablet.
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Wrong...
The 10S version of the viewpad has a tegra cpu just like the gtablet..Some places are actually calling it a gtab2 and/or the euro gtab only because it has a few additional features but supposedly a similar screen... maybe these links will help. Good luck, hope this all helps.
http://www.greatereader.org/?p=11791
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_VIEWPAD10S/
So, in essence the 10S is the same as the gTab with a few extra features at roughly the same price...
flashred said:
So from the hours of research that I have done, from what I understand (and correct me if i'm wrong) there are 3 tablets coming out from Viewsonic. . . The Viewpad 10, Viewpad 10s (European and Asian markets), and a Viewpad 10 Pro.
From what I have read, the 10 Pro will also be dual boot, Windows 7 and Android 2.2. The one thing that confuses me besides all of the mixed information out there, is that....
1) Android 2.2 will be native (dual boot).
2) Android 2.2 will "work within a VM" which is launched within Windows 7.
Has anyone else closely researched Viewsonic's new tablet lineup?
Thanks.
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I wouldn't go with the x86 tablet. Just about all current Android devices are ARM CPU based and ANY apps that make use of the native development environment just won't work on non-ARM CPUs. (Actually I'm guessing that most devs will restrict to ARMv7 anyways -> cortex-a8 & -a9 based systems only but these are the only ones worth buying anyways...)
I wonder why they kneecapped internal storage for the 10s? I read this a while back and IIRC it said 4GB at that time... About the only thing that I'd like from it is higher cap batt... be even better if it was 5k but...
flipovich said:
The 10S version of the viewpad has a tegra cpu just like the gtablet..
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No, Windows 7 wouldn't run on ARM.
dagbro said:
No, Windows 7 wouldn't run on ARM.
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That is correct, and also the reason why I would like to go with one of these Viewpads that can boot (or VM) Windows 7 and Android 2.2
I haven't posted much (so i'm restricted) on here otherwise I would add a few links to the demonstrations I have seen on the 'tube. If you do a search for Viewpad 10 pro, you will see Android being launched in a VM of sorts. It's very interesting to me.
I think ya'll are confusing your models so here's a breakdown to clear things up a little.
Viewpad 10 = Intel CPU with Windows and Android OS (dual-boot)
Viewpad 10 Pro = Intel CPU running Windows primarily with the capability of launching Android from a VM within Windows
Viewpad 10S = Tegra CPU running only Android OS
The OP is asking about the 10S not the other models that ya'll keep confusing into the mix. The 10S, like I said before, is basically a gTab with a few extra features but smaller internal storage for roughly the same price. I hope this clears things up a bit.
flipovich said:
I think ya'll are confusing your models so here's a breakdown to clear things up a little.
Viewpad 10 = Intel CPU with Windows and Android OS (dual-boot)
Viewpad 10 Pro = Intel CPU running Windows primarily with the capability of launching Android from a VM within Windows
Viewpad 10S = Tegra CPU running only Android OS
The OP is asking about the 10S not the other models that ya'll keep confusing into the mix. The 10S, like I said before, is basically a gTab with a few extra features but smaller internal storage for roughly the same price. I hope this clears things up a bit.
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Looking at the picture of the 10s leads me to believe the screen is no better than the gtablet. It has the same frame around it. And from the internal pictures/write-ups I've seen on the gtablet there has always been plenty of room left for them to simply "upgrade" it a little with 3G and GPS.
I did a lil research too. I saw videos of it at CES and the viewing angles looks the same as g tablet video I saw. My g tablet coming in soon but I dont know if I should refuse the shipment and wait for viewpad 10s.
So far 10s has
hdmi
2x usb port
glossy back.
buttons disappear on the front with return button near power on the side
2 models: 3g+GPS or Wifi only
g-tablet over 10s is
bigger battery
buttons
cheaper
The screen looks the same. The people did the viewpad 10s video didnt even mention anything about g-tablet or about the viewing angle. Anyone have info on this?
Glossy back is a down if you're like me and OCD about prints on your electronics.
G Tablet
I went and looked at one, and the screen is definitely a concern to me. Are there any versions of these that don't have the screen like that? Dark when you look at it from an angle top pointed away? I see its sort of backwards, and looks brighter when the top is pointed towards you. Very odd.
Guys, with the $50 off coupon today I had no choice but to get the Nook Color.
Can always gift it to family later
Thanks for your input, the discussion can continue!.
flashred said:
That is correct, and also the reason why I would like to go with one of these Viewpads that can boot (or VM) Windows 7 and Android 2.2
I haven't posted much (so i'm restricted) on here otherwise I would add a few links to the demonstrations I have seen on the 'tube. If you do a search for Viewpad 10 pro, you will see Android being launched in a VM of sorts. It's very interesting to me.
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Does viewpad 10s run vegacomb 3.2 build 9n good? Cheers.
Tomas.

Archos Gen9 Hardware Modding

Hi folks. Firstly, could some kind mod please create an Archos Gen9 category, and move this thread into it? You will then be beyond wonderful...
I've been looking at potential tablets for awhile, and am attracted to the Archos Gen9 devices coming out for their potential modability. I'm keen for feedback on this, and to start a discussion thread. Please post for your ideas and comments.
What interests me most:
1. They run an omap4 chipset, which is well supported (with graphics acceleration) under Ubuntu's arm port. Also, Texa Instruments, the makers of the omap chips, have a great linux community around them.
2. They have 2 x 1.5 ghz processors, along with a myriad of other goodies in their chips
3. Both the 80 and 101 models have options for a hard drive. The hard drive interests me less than the space put aside to put one in, and the sata conector that goes along with it. My hopes are it's relatively easy to open up the tablet, then switch out the drive for a fast ssd. Toshiba has a 7mm ssd drive coming out that works with a sata connection. Otherwise, a 5mm 1.8inch mini-sata drive might work, if it was packed out.
4. The last couple versions of the Archos system seem to have a developers version with it, so (hopefully) one could replace Armstrong with Ubuntu's arm port with minimal hassle. Regardless, a modified Ubuntu image should work fine with this device.
Anyone keen on this? I'd like to know your thoughts on hardware modability, and alternative software that can load on these devices. I'm looking at replacing my netbook with a tablet, and seems these upcoming Archos devices might be just the ticket. Lastly, does anyone know if the 16gb solid state drives shipping with the lighter models are likely to be soldiered onto the board, or is it possible to swap them with something else, like the ssd drives included in the eepc's and acer netbooks. Cheers.
Its way to early to create a Gen9 Forum
The Gen8ers released Early November here and the forum started december
tillum said:
2. They have 2 x 1.5 ghz processors, along with a myriad of other goodies in their chips
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Well, one processor, but 2x 1.5GHz cores.
Apparently the G9 101 flash versions will only have a 1GHz chip (probably the OMAP 4430), as well as the G9 80 8GB model. The other models will be clocked at 1.5GHz, running the OMAP 4460.
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80 G9 8GB: 1.0GHz 299$
80 G9 16GB: 1.5GHz 329$
80 G9 250GB: 1.5GHz 369$
101 G9 8GB: 1.0GHz 369$
101 G9 16GB: 1.0GHz 399$
101 G9 250GB: 1.5GHz 469$
Source: https://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
https://store.archos.com/archos-p-5017.html
tillum said:
4. The last couple versions of the Archos system seem to have a developers version with it, so (hopefully) one could replace Armstrong with Ubuntu's arm port with minimal hassle. Regardless, a modified Ubuntu image should work fine with this device.
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Not really any reason for Archos to not include an SDE like they have been for the last two generations.
tillum said:
does anyone know if the 16gb solid state drives shipping with the lighter models are likely to be soldiered onto the board, or is it possible to swap them with something else, like the ssd drives included in the eepc's and acer netbooks. Cheers.
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They aren't solid state drives. Theyr'e flash memory chips, and yes they are soldered on the board. They will likely operate the exact same way as last generation's chip, where they hosted the OS and the app storage, so they won't be replacable.
Also, it isn't way too early to start a G9 section. Most major hyped phones that come out get a section a month or so before they come out. Around next month would be a good time to start a G9 section (or start it now and have the mod for it make an announcement, and then only make a "General" section until they actually come out). People will continually post about the G9 devices here in the G8 section, because this is the only Archos section on XDA. If there were a G9 section, we could keep things separated.
Thanks for that Harfainx. Of course, that makes more sense about the flash memory chips. I still wonder how modable the rest of ths flash based units are, but think I'll be going for the hard drive versions, and pulling them apart. I'm still stoked Archos is putting in a sata hard disk to begin with, hers should be heaps more options for hacking it.
And yes, if this is the only place for people to post on XDA about the gen9 devices, this is where they will go. The fact that people are already posting means thaf we should have an area setup for gen9. Or at least have and archos area, with gen 8 and 9 under it. Cheers.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17763739
for the new g9 forum

[Q] Open question Flytouch 5

Hello i bought a Flytouch 5, I'm wondering what people know about this tablet.
And also i like to learn here if it's possible to change the Android version to one that are around here.
I'm not really happy with the pre installation that came from the manufacturer. It works but i know it can be better.
I would be really happy with any info what is out there about this tablet.
Info from tablet.
Model Number: YOSPAD
Android Version: V2.3 2011-07-17(001112)
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #216
Build Version:FR858
Update
I noticed to that when i post with the tablet the footnote on the bottom of the message says "Sent from my mercury using XDA App"
I hope this extra info will help.
Operating System ​Android 2.3
Model ​Fly Touch 5
Product Type ​​Tablet
Keyboard Touch screen
Battery Type ​6400MAH Li-ion Battery
Battery / Run Time (up to) ​​about 4~6 hours
Power Device Type ​AC Adapter
Voltage required ​100/240V
Miscellaneous / Color ​Silver
Dimensions / W x D x H ​170.mm(W) x 270.0mm(D) x 16.mm(H)
Net Weight ​0.68kg
Performance
Processor Type ARM 11
Processor Clock Speed 1GMHz
Processor Model Infotmic X220
Cache Memory / Type I-Cache
Cache Memory / Installed Size 2M
RAM / Technology DDR 2
RAM Installed Size 512MB
Display Diagonal Size 10.2 inch
Max Resolution 1024 X 600
Display Technology Resistive touch screen
Graphics Type Integrated Graphics
Graphics Model Support 1080P
Storage and Expansion
Hard Drive Type NAND Fast Flash
Hard Drive Capacity 4GB
Hard Drive Spindle Speed NAND Fast Flash
PCMCIA Expansion Support 16GB MAX
Communications
Net Connection
Fast Ethernet
Wireless Connection
Wifi
Wireless Protocol 802.11 b/g
Support Format
Video RM/RMVB,DAT,MPG,VOB,MP4,
AVI/MK,TS,FLV,WMV,MOV
Audio MP3,AAC,AAC+,EAAC+,
WMA,WMA PRO,RA
Picture JPG, GIF, BMP ,PNG
Ebook TXT(Support TTS reading function)
Input/Output Connectors
Ports
2 x USB
1 x Output HDMI
1 x SD slot
1 x DC jack
1 x Ethernet Jack
Digital Zorro said:
Hello i bought a Flytouch 5, I'm wondering what people know about this tablet.
And also i like to learn here if it's possible to change the Android version to one that are around here.
I'm not really happy with the pre installation that came from the manufacturer. It works but i know it can be better.
I would be really happy with any info what is out there about this tablet.
Info from tablet.
Model Number: YOSPAD
Android Version: V2.3 2011-07-17(001112)
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #216
Build Version:FR858
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Hi, I have the same one since a week ago. Unfortunatelly I updated it with another Android OS and now I don't have WIFI. May I ask you if you are still on the original firmware to send me the file wpa_supplicant.config? Or if you have the original ROM it will the best way if you can send me the link to download it. Thanks.
teddy_irish said:
Hi, I have the same one since a week ago. Unfortunatelly I updated it with another Android OS and now I don't have WIFI. May I ask you if you are still on the original firmware to send me the file wpa_supplicant.config? Or if you have the original ROM it will the best way if you can send me the link to download it. Thanks.
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Yes i still have the original firmware installed.
I really like to help you solve your problem. How i do get the "wpa_supplicant.config" File from the tablet?
Digital Zorro said:
Yes i still have the original firmware installed.
I really like to help you solve your problem. How i do get the "wpa_supplicant.config" File from the tablet?
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Thank you for your answer! Is your device rooted? Because only if it's rooted you can go to the folder where the file is. Or maybe you have the ROM? That will be the best way if you have the ROM to send it to me. Or to ask your reseller to send it to you? By the way where did you buy it from? That might help me to obtain the original firmware.
Thanks
teddy_irish said:
Thank you for your answer! Is your device rooted? Because only if it's rooted you can go to the folder where the file is. Or maybe you have the ROM? That will be the best way if you have the ROM to send it to me. Or to ask your reseller to send it to you? By the way where did you buy it from? That might help me to obtain the original firmware.
Thanks
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How is the folder named? Let me look in to that first, i don't think the site allows direct company names that sell this product.
I'm surprised about the low info here on this tablet.
Maybe new info i found will help, it's also known as superpad.
And I'm sure it's no fake. Google it. I will not advertise here.
Still need some good info and answers.
Send from my Flytouch 5. (Mercury)
I bought one of these chunks of crap, it ran for 24 hrs now it won't boot it had newer yospad firmware but I can't remember the exact build cause it won't boot now. What I need to know is how to do a hardware reset, not the little reset button it just restarts it or another yospad rom.
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
Sent from my V9 using Tapatalk
Found out how to hard reset this chunk of gold and its good now
Peace
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richarddwyer10 said:
I bought one of these chunks of crap, it ran for 24 hrs now it won't boot it had newer yospad firmware but I can't remember the exact build cause it won't boot now. What I need to know is how to do a hardware reset, not the little reset button it just restarts it or another yospad rom.
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
Sent from my V9 using Tapatalk
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I see you already found it...This for the people who still don't know it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWTEr2NeDo
I think Gingerbreak might of bricked this but now this is running I'm reluctant to try again. Have you rooted you're yospad yet?
I've been sent the latest firmware from the supplier as well as the flash player file if you want it
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Upgrade file for YosPad
How were you able to upgrade the firmware and flash file on your YosPad ?
mikeema said:
How were you able to upgrade the firmware and flash file on your YosPad ?
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Yes, i'm interested in that too.
Yes format SD card put Fw update on SD and turn power on and it will flash itself. Btw use z4root to root this because it is fake back ported 2.3 in other words its 2.2
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Who the hell gives names to this devices .. ? Flytouch 5 ? zomg!
this is the ONLY company that has the Infotmic SoC available for implementing into tablets:
http://www.shuoying.com/global/index.asp
http://www.shuoying.com/global/Product.asp?/3.html (tablet page)
I Know that, cause I personally visited the head of Infotmic SoC design (Shenzhen) and ShuoYing CEO, also in Shenzhen (Infotmic HQ is from Shanghai)
If there is any other tablet with "Flytouch" design, then they are tempered from the original tablet made by Shuoying, or they are so wild that it is really a mystery of it's origin.
My guess is that those are regular FT2 (since all have the same CPU) tweaked by some wild chinese people, Kernel and OS, and RAM/ROM
not to all - dont buy tablets from companies that dont show up in 1-2 hours search. You'll end up with tablet that someone assembled by hand and a screwdriver, and most probably extremely bad OS.
flashing rom on yospad
Use only Z4 to root the yospad. Can someone leave link for fw flash for yospad
Igoritza said:
Who the hell gives names to this devices .. ? Flytouch 5 ? zomg!
this is the ONLY company that has the Infotmic SoC available for implementing into tablets:
http://www.shuoying.com/global/index.asp
http://www.shuoying.com/global/Product.asp?/3.html (tablet page)
I Know that, cause I personally visited the head of Infotmic SoC design (Shenzhen) and ShuoYing CEO, also in Shenzhen (Infotmic HQ is from Shanghai)
If there is any other tablet with "Flytouch" design, then they are tempered from the original tablet made by Shuoying, or they are so wild that it is really a mystery of it's origin.
My guess is that those are regular FT2 (since all have the same CPU) tweaked by some wild chinese people, Kernel and OS, and RAM/ROM
not to all - dont buy tablets from companies that dont show up in 1-2 hours search. You'll end up with tablet that someone assembled by hand and a screwdriver, and most probably extremely bad OS.
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I think your completely right there.
I use it for a remote control know.
Thanks for the input btw.
Digital Zoro - im sorry for your failed tablet device.
On the other hand - I find the FT2 design to be the best tablet design ever. it obviously lacks the fine finish, and better materials, but - 10 inch wide tablet, with every god damn port there is - pure win.
I saw the "actual" FT3 in Infotmic Shenzhen, and it looks awesome - capacitive screen, ARM Cortex A8 based infotmic SoC (about time dudes, you are sooo late) .. dont know why isnt out yet, cause all those named "FT3" dont have same specs as the one I saw.
Igoritza said:
Digital Zoro - im sorry for your failed tablet device.
On the other hand - I find the FT2 design to be the best tablet design ever. it obviously lacks the fine finish, and better materials, but - 10 inch wide tablet, with every god damn port there is - pure win.
I saw the "actual" FT3 in Infotmic Shenzhen, and it looks awesome - capacitive screen, ARM Cortex A8 based infotmic SoC (about time dudes, you are sooo late) .. dont know why isnt out yet, cause all those named "FT3" dont have same specs as the one I saw.
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My Flytouch 5
The design is not really bad and i like that it has the rj-45 port.
The screen I find bad. No multitouch and slow reaction when touched.
Its thick and heavy to hold.
Flytouch 5 should have GPS build in, but it doesn't.
The Flytouch 2 3 4 5 are all the same design. On one moment it lost the second mini sd slot.
Is this only with the fake ones?
No, they are all faulty. the forementioned Shuoying company makes crapy tablets
I took for bussines 30 units the first time around, and I still have 6 broken units. others had flaws, mostly of how they are assembled - everything is sticking out, and such. USB/SD slots die more often than you could imagine.
buttons are the biggest problem - they are not glued in & soldered - they are JUST soldered. so the only thing that holds them into place is Tin (Sn) and we all know how that is firm and solid
oh, there is also a screen problem - there are 3 types of ZIF wire-to-board connector types for the screen, so if you ever need a screen replacement - dont even think about it.
the best assembled chinese tablet is from a company Utopia, in my expirience. you can find them by the name "imx515" A8 or A10 tablet. it turns out that solutions for assemble is better than most of the branded companies.

What's the truth about the 101?

Hi guys and gals,
I've recently bought an Archos 101 Internet Tablet with 16GB as a real bargain (169 Euro) and now it's lying still boxed on my table and I ask myself, what should I do
BTW, is this a GEN8 oder GEN9 device?
I thought that this could be a great deal when it's possible to install CyanogenMod 7.x on the 101 - but as I read for now this is not that easy as I thought
There's obviously a way installing CM7 over openAOS, but with massive restrictions like not-working
Audio
Bluetooth
Accelerometer
accelerated Video decoding
Suspend
TS calibration on A28/A32/A43
This is really disappointing, because I really like CM7 ported to other devices I know...
So, back to my thread-title: should I unbox the 101 and start to use it, hoping that CM7 will work on it without any restrictions one fine day? Or shoud I send it back to the seller and get my money back?
And: what alternative cheap tablet with Android, a big community AND the ability to install a "normal" CM7 should I buy?
Best regards and thanks for your thoughts
cool400
Hi,
you have a Gen 8 tablet. I haven't tried CM7 on my tablet yet (Doesn't look stable enough for me yet), but have you looked into Urukdroid? It is fully functional, and adds some neat things like being able to use a DVB stick to watch TV.
The first alternative tablet I can think of is the Nook Color. I hear that has CM7, and is about the same price (150 euros).
If all you want to do is play video and you're stuck on the 150 price range, go with the 101 for the price, although the screen is terrible. CM7 runs very well on the Nook Color, but it's a 7" screen and video playback is terrible. For very little extra money you can get either the kindle fire or nook tablet and have something much better.
cool400 said:
Hi guys and gals,
I've recently bought an Archos 101 Internet Tablet with 16GB as a real bargain (169 Euro) and now it's lying still boxed on my table and I ask myself, what should I do
BTW, is this a GEN8 oder GEN9 device?
I thought that this could be a great deal when it's possible to install CyanogenMod 7.x on the 101 - but as I read for now this is not that easy as I thought
There's obviously a way installing CM7 over openAOS, but with massive restrictions like not-working
Audio
Bluetooth
Accelerometer
accelerated Video decoding
Suspend
TS calibration on A28/A32/A43
This is really disappointing, because I really like CM7 ported to other devices I know...
So, back to my thread-title: should I unbox the 101 and start to use it, hoping that CM7 will work on it without any restrictions one fine day? Or shoud I send it back to the seller and get my money back?
And: what alternative cheap tablet with Android, a big community AND the ability to install a "normal" CM7 should I buy?
Best regards and thanks for your thoughts
cool400
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To rectify some things on RC bull release openAOS:
Audio works for CM7
Bluetooth works for CM7
Accelerometer works for CM7
accelerated Video decoding is not working for CM7
Suspend is working, however there still seem to be some issues
TS calibration for A32 and A43 is working A28 we do not support
Is it a stable release? No far from that it still needs a lot of work.
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[Q] Archos 101 IT - gen8 or gen9?

Hi, I've been thinking about buying a budget Android tablet for a while, but mixed reviews of things like the AndyPad put me off. I now have the opportunity to pick up a used Archos 101 Internet Tablet for about £100 (so inside budget territory) but I can't figure out whether this is a gen8 or gen9 device. I think it's a gen8 as it originally came with FroYo and the screen resolution is only 1024x600, but could just do with someone who knows more about them confirming that, I'm wondering what the chances are of a newer OS coming out for this device.
Even if it's the older gen8 version, is it worth a go for £100 anyway and just put a third-party ROM onto it to get the features I want? Cheers!
gavinchappell said:
Hi, I've been thinking about buying a budget Android tablet for a while, but mixed reviews of things like the AndyPad put me off. I now have the opportunity to pick up a used Archos 101 Internet Tablet for about £100 (so inside budget territory) but I can't figure out whether this is a gen8 or gen9 device. I think it's a gen8 as it originally came with FroYo and the screen resolution is only 1024x600, but could just do with someone who knows more about them confirming that, I'm wondering what the chances are of a newer OS coming out for this device.
Even if it's the older gen8 version, is it worth a go for £100 anyway and just put a third-party ROM onto it to get the features I want? Cheers!
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this would be the Gen8 tablet, there is very little chance of a newer OS coming to it officially but there are a few projects including getting gingerbread running and also a few people are trying to get ICS to boot
Thanks for confirming that, I've been reading up this morning and it seems like while they were a good purchase a while back, I might be better off with something slightly better specced (more RAM) and with a bit more support. Now tempted by an Advent Vega which is also for sale locally, a little bit more money but better specifications and they already have a working (very well, from what I can gather) Honeycomb port, with ICS well on the way. Thanks for your response though
I think is better buy the g9 .. it's new, use honeycomb and not froyo like the g8 and... Archos have say that upgrade the g9 to ics!

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