Hello,
I am about to get the G9 80 Turbo as the form factor appeals to me. However I am reluctant due to the 512mb RAM. The only experience I have with HC and memory usage is with the HC roms for gtablet and the memory his been a tad high edging towards 512mb .... I do have a number of background tasks running but nothing crazy.
Anyhow does anyone know if the 1.2ghz turbo still comes with only 512mb - archos isn't too forth coming with this info on the tech spec sheet
Also what are folks experiences wrt to memory usage on the 512mb G9 80... (I'm getting mixed reviews)
Thanks a lot, FredT
As far as I know, the turbo devices are still 512mb. I do experience some lag on my regular 80 at times, but a reboot generally fixes that. I am stock everything, so I haven't tried different launchers to see if that helps with lag. I love this tablet, just wish it had a bit more RAM.
Yea archos are tight arses when it comes to ram Scrooges
G9 80 Turbo rocks?
...it does not rock
StocChr said:
G9 80 Turbo rocks?
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So I took the plunge and picked up the G9 80 Turbo (1.2ghz). In a nutshell it does not rock.
Archos, why oh why did you not go with 1gb RAM ?
I get it, the price point of this device was key, but I still feel that compromising on the RAM was a mistake and will cause a suboptimal user experience.
Frankly I worry how ICS is going to run on this.... hopefully ICS has optimized memory usage.
At this price I certainly have lowered expectations but the 512MB RAM and the screen ripple (which mine does have) is making me rethink this purchase.
The problem is that I really like the device's form factor and overall make-up, so I want this thing to be successful...
I use my tablet 3 hours a day but only have the basic android apps installed/running: facebook, RSS reader, tweekdeck, tvshow sched watcher and the standard android / google framework stuff... I even turned off the live wallpaper.
...and it still feels draggy overall and painful when switching from say tweetdeck to browser and then back, tweekdeck and/or the browser have to reload data and reset positions. Frustrating...
I now understand why Archos bundled the convenient System Monitor with the Kill All Apps button
Each time I check free memory it shows 50 - 60mb free, I'm going to poke around and see if I can figure out where the memory is going - maybe I can optimize this thing a bit.
Anyhow with all that said for the price I think I am going just keep it to hack around with android and as a GPS tether to phone...
...but I can not see using this as a daily driver.
Which is a big shame as I think Archos is on to something with this device.
FredT
Fredplex said:
So I took the plunge and picked up the G9 80 Turbo (1.2ghz). In a nutshell it does not rock.
Archos, why oh why did you not go with 1gb RAM ?
I get it, the price point of this device was key, but I still feel that compromising on the RAM was a mistake and will cause a suboptimal user experience.
Frankly I worry how ICS is going to run on this.... hopefully ICS has optimized memory usage.
At this price I certainly have lowered expectations but the 512MB RAM and the screen ripple (which mine does have) is making me rethink this purchase.
The problem is that I really like the device's form factor and overall make-up, so I want this thing to be successful...
I use my tablet 3 hours a day but only have the basic android apps installed/running: facebook, RSS reader, tweekdeck, tvshow sched watcher and the standard android / google framework stuff... I even turned off the live wallpaper.
...and it still feels draggy overall and painful when switching from say tweetdeck to browser and then back, tweekdeck and/or the browser have to reload data and reset positions. Frustrating...
I now understand why Archos bundled the convenient System Monitor with the Kill All Apps button
Each time I check free memory it shows 50 - 60mb free, I'm going to poke around and see if I can figure out where the memory is going - maybe I can optimize this thing a bit.
Anyhow with all that said for the price I think I am going just keep it to hack around with android and as a GPS tether to phone...
...but I can not see using this as a daily driver.
Which is a big shame as I think Archos is on to something with this device.
FredT
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Couple of things you can do to get it to run faster are : install ADW launcher EX and Advanced Task Killer, those 2 should get you running a bit better, other thing is, root the device and get the CPU to run 1.2GHz Full blast...
I didn't realize this thing has 512mb. That stinks. I thought the Turbo ones had 1gb like my Acer A100. That's not very Turbo to me. I just re-read a review, said it has 1gb. IT assuredly does not.
I've been using this tablet for about 3 weeks now and it is amazing, you just need to do a few tweaks and it is well worth your money, might not be as "perfect" as other tablets but it is spectacular for under 300€
I do like a lot about it, for the day I had it. Seems as fast as my A100, but I had to send it back due to 2 stuck on pixels. Hope the new one doesn't have bad pixels. I want more storage and battery life than the Acer, the Archos should hopefully do that.
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I returned my A101 a few weeks ago because memory would get down to 50MB or so after a while, and the whole tablet would then become quite sluggish.
I liked everything else about it, though. I wonder if the new firmware manages memory more efficiently and allows free RAM to stay at 80MB+ or so, or perhaps keep apps from loading themselves for no reason.
I'm afraid it's a hardware issue (simply too little RAM to start)... but you never know. Surely the Archos people by now have had an earful of complaints about this issue...
Free RAM on my archos 101 is constantly at 30Mb and I have no problem with sluggish performance.
I never kill apps unless they misbehave badly (badly written apps).
You can not maintain a 80Mb free level unless you don't use the device.
Killing apps just to free memory is a big nono.
Android uses a method to kill background apps automatically when space is needed in RAM. So effectively it cleans up after itself.
Here is a fairly good explanation of how the system is designed.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
and
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+why+you+don't+need+a+task+killer
argie said:
I returned my A101 a few weeks ago
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Why return it? They are selling on eBay for more than MSRP right now. LOL I would have sold it if I was you...made a little profit in the process.
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Why return it? They are selling on eBay for more than MSRP right now. LOL I would have sold it if I was you...made a little profit in the process.
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lol, that wont last....
Not saying it will...but for now...right now...he could have done that.
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Free RAM on my archos 101 is constantly at 30Mb and I have no problem with sluggish performance.
I never kill apps unless they misbehave badly (badly written apps).
You can not maintain a 80Mb free level unless you don't use the device.
Killing apps just to free memory is a big nono.
Android uses a method to kill background apps automatically when space is needed in RAM. So effectively it cleans up after itself.
Here is a fairly good explanation of how the system is designed.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
and
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+why+you+don't+need+a+task+killer
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When I first got my Archos 70 IT 250GB, I was constantly killing apps! Didn't seem to do any good, but I kept killing those apps ... I almost sent my Archos 70 back too. I even got the RMA from J&R. I don't think I'll be returning this beauty any time soon .... Also have a 3-year extended warranty.
Until I learned that it isn't necessary. I quit killing apps several days ago, and my Archos is running more smoothly. Still sluggish at times, but I have 12 folders on the desktop, along with 9 shortcuts! Most of those folders have lots of apps in them. I'm guessing that is why the desktop is so sluggish.
I can have Internet radio running while doing other stuff. The radio cuts out sometimes, but isn't much of an issue.
Internet runs smoothly about 1/2 the time. I didn't get my Archos 70 for high-end usage though, mostly just for reading, and watching short videos, and listening to Internet radio and playing music when I'm out and about (riding the bus, riding my bicycle, shopping).
Really comes in handy for having my shopping list with me, listening to my favorite tunes while walking around! I also have sticky notes with daily journal reminders that I'll transfer to my MacPro. Also use the calendar for appointments and events.
Some interesting reading in those 2 links. Thanks.
I've had my vibrant since it came out. They have 512 of ram hardware. I know we've gotten up to 344 or so with tweaking, but why can't we get the full 512 at all?
I have a feeling it has to do with Samsung or drivers, but with everything I've seen devs overcome I can't see why this is still a problem.
I have a nook color which has inferior hardware overall, but the biggest reason I see it as more stable is it never has memory management issues(running any rom). My biggest reasons to dump my vibrant for a Hercules or comparable is because of the constant ram issues the vibrant has that they wont, along with better hardware.
Maybe the answer is out there, but I haven't seen it in a whole year(so answers could be outdated), nor it brought up for a very long time.
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That 512 MB is shared ram. So some of it is dedicated to the video processor which is built into CPU. Phones have to be slim and light I don't think well be seeing dedicated videocards and soundcards anytime soon.
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The simple answer is that our system needs to set aside a certain amount of ram for the actual OS to use, nothing that we can necessarily touch. Certain apps occupy memory at all times and we're left with whatever memory hasn't been allocated by OS. I'm not the most technical but that's the general consensus from what I've read over the last 2 years of running Android.
If you want to really push the limits of what free ram you can achieve, I would highly suggest reading the OP of this thread. In there you'll see how you can adjust the way your system handles recently opened and closed apps. My phone feels a million times better, just using those simple to use tweaks/scripts.
Let me know if you need any help.
- Mat
dardani89 said:
That 512 MB is shared ram. So some of it is dedicated to the video processor which is built into CPU. Phones have to be slim and light I don't think well be seeing dedicated videocards and soundcards anytime soon.
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I know the nook has no dedicated gpu, but it makes use of most if not all of that ram.. unless I am playing a graphically intensive game, it rarely drops below 100mb available ram, usually staying around 150+ until I've opened a ton of apps. Oh, and many phones that are coming out have a dedicated gpu, such as all of the variants of the samsung galaxy S II. it has a Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset.. and awesome battery life I have heard.
Either way, my nook color doesn't experience the laggyness that my vibrant does until I have used so much it makes sense, but considering my vibrant stays around 60mb of available ram +/- most of the time..
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The simple answer is that our system needs to set aside a certain amount of ram for the actual OS to use, nothing that we can necessarily touch. Certain apps occupy memory at all times and we're left with whatever memory hasn't been allocated by OS. I'm not the most technical but that's the general consensus from what I've read over the last 2 years of running Android.
If you want to really push the limits of what free ram you can achieve, I would highly suggest reading the OP of this thread. In there you'll see how you can adjust the way your system handles recently opened and closed apps. My phone feels a million times better, just using those simple to use tweaks/scripts.
Let me know if you need any help.
- Mat
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You have no idea how hard I have been trying to find that app, I was going to try it when I was running simply honeyv5 because the memory issues were so horrible, but I couldn't find it again, and minfreemanager was the next best thing.. so I am VERY glad you posted it.
Are you using a specific set of pre-made settings, a specific script, or some custom setup, and which?
I am just trying to get my vibrant as usable as possible until the hercules and other comparable phones come out, so I can weigh them against each other. I don't regret my vibrant, but I wish I had waited a little longer so I had made a more informed choice.. if I can make it kickass again, at least for a few months, I will be a happy guy. Thanks again.
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I know the nook has no dedicated gpu, but it makes use of most if not all of that ram.. unless I am playing a graphically intensive game, it rarely drops below 100mb available ram, usually staying around 150+ until I've opened a ton of apps. Oh, and many phones that are coming out have a dedicated gpu, such as all of the variants of the samsung galaxy S II. it has a Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset.. and awesome battery life I have heard.
Either way, my nook color doesn't experience the laggyness that my vibrant does until I have used so much it makes sense, but considering my vibrant stays around 60mb of available ram +/- most of the time..
You have no idea how hard I have been trying to find that app, I was going to try it when I was running simply honeyv5 because the memory issues were so horrible, but I couldn't find it again, and minfreemanager was the next best thing.. so I am VERY glad you posted it.
Are you using a specific set of pre-made settings, a specific script, or some custom setup, and which?
I am just trying to get my vibrant as usable as possible until the hercules and other comparable phones come out, so I can weigh them against each other. I don't regret my vibrant, but I wish I had waited a little longer so I had made a more informed choice.. if I can make it kickass again, at least for a few months, I will be a happy guy. Thanks again.
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No problem man. I'm actually using option #9 in V8 right now and it's been a dream. It stops holding apps in memory after not using them a few seconds, which is great for what I'm looking for. What you'll find is that it manages the memory and how quickly things are slotted around (different priorities that android gives particular applications; Launcher, Dialer, Messaging, etc.). You can actually try every option and see which you find the best.
I started out with option #2 and then moved all the way down as I found things I didn't like in some, but liked in others.Give it a shot man!
- Mat
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No problem man. I'm actually using option #9 in V8 right now and it's been a dream. It stops holding apps in memory after not using them a few seconds, which is great for what I'm looking for. What you'll find is that it manages the memory and how quickly things are slotted around (different priorities that android gives particular applications; Launcher, Dialer, Messaging, etc.). You can actually try every option and see which you find the best.
I started out with option #2 and then moved all the way down as I found things I didn't like in some, but liked in others.Give it a shot man!
- Mat
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I'm actually using number 2 now in the allandroidv8 script, and if anything maybe it is too aggressive, but it has it's snappiness back. Looking at how they set the rom I'm using and the one before it, it looks like they didn't tweak it at all from stock cm7.. if anything I think they've made tweaks it more recent nightlies better than those roms! Simply honey(who brags about how great they are) and Biff ron both need some tweaking.. I'm gonna play with it, but thanks for posting what I was trying so hard to find
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Hi Folks,
I would like to start new thread regarding my question so that I can get replies based on latest phones out there. I am looking for an Android phone for my wife and I have few things on my mind.
Existing phone - HTC Explorer. Pretty good phone and the fact that it runs on Gingerbread makes it quite fast and responsive even with mediocre hardware. Only drawback is internal storage (150 mb) which is why I am now looking for new phone.
Expected new phone - (Atleast) 1Ghz dual core, 1GB RAM, >1500 mAh battery, Internal storage 4GB. Display, OS version and other things not so much important. Budget - 15K-18K INR. Also need ambient light sensor mandatory so that I can set "Auto Brightness" ON which makes huge difference on battery.
Usage - Common apps like Facebook, Gmail, Whatsapp and few lightweight games and nothing heavy.
There are a quite a few phones which matches above config in that budget but I tried to did extensive research on reviews by GSMArena, Engadget etc and I couldn't shortlist one proper phone which will give all round performance. What I am really looking for is phone that will not start lagging after usage of couple of months and should provide decent battery backup.
Also I do not understand myth around actual RAM that is available for phone. I thought HTC Desire X could be good phone but I am not quite sure how much RAM out 768MB will be actually user available. I had HTC One V and it said 512 RAM but it showed only 350MB on phone. And HTC phones comes with heavier Sense and it kills lot of RAM. Also I noticed that JellyBean (although butter smooth) tends to lag on phones with lesser RAM. I had rooted my HTC One V and tried CM10 PrimoU on it but still it started lagging after few days. Thus 350MB RAM was never enough for Jellybean. Hence I am not sure how will HTC Desire X turns out.
Good thing about HTC Explorer Gingerbread was that it was lightweight and runs super fast even on ordinary config. I was even tempted to go for Gingerbread out of box phone with better config and never update OS but I am not sure if that will be good decision based on app supports in future. Currently I am using Nexus 4 and no other phone can match its performance with 2GB RAM without additional customization like Sense, Touchwiz etc. But I have some budget constraint buying this new phone and besides, wife not being heavy user and doesn't prefer too large screen phone, I am looking for something else.
Any ideas, suggestion will be helpful.
-Abhijit
I have Samsung drivers
atlas 2.2
odin 1.3
gbbootloaders
cmw4 fixed for cm7
CI500_VZW_EH03_GB_CM
and mutliple releases of CM10.1
I followed instructions exactly how [GUIDE] Installing a Rom/CWM recovery/Root or going back to Stock say to do.
I always end up with a bootloop after flashing. The instructions are flawed. Or, one or more files are corrupted.
fewert said:
I have Samsung drivers
atlas 2.2
odin 1.3
gbbootloaders
cmw4 fixed for cm7
CI500_VZW_EH03_GB_CM
and mutliple releases of CM10.1
I followed instructions exactly how [GUIDE] Installing a Rom/CWM recovery/Root or going back to Stock say to do.
I always end up with a bootloop after flashing. The instructions are flawed. Or, one or more files are corrupted.
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Did you look at my post which further explains the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53235945
Have you installed cm10.1 multiple times?
Some times it doesn't always set thing up in one flash
hhp_211 said:
Did you look at my post which further explains the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53235945
Have you installed cm10.1 multiple times?
Some times it doesn't always set thing up in one flash
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Yeah I read a post saying to do what you just described with success.
However, this phone is really poor. I have tried GB, ICS, JB and all of them I get similar performance just different features.
The phone can't handle two apps at once regardless of the rom.
I was traveling to a different city to get something on Craigs. It constantly would shutdown my Maps and Navigation when I wanted to read a Kik message.
If I have Kik open and want to read a txt msg, it takes like 10 seconds after clicking the txt msg icon to show the txt.
Is there an app or method that everyone uses on this phone that I don't know about to get this phone to run speedy? Or, is it just so outdated it can't run modern versions of apps?
I just want navigation, txt, kik, and a light browser like dolphin.
Can a Fascinate handle all that and be snappy and quick??
In the mean time, I am switching over to my S3, though I don't like how it's so big I can't reach all the screen with one hand.
fewert said:
Yeah I read a post saying to do what you just described with success.
However, this phone is really poor. I have tried GB, ICS, JB and all of them I get similar performance just different features.
The phone can't handle two apps at once regardless of the rom.
I was traveling to a different city to get something on Craigs. It constantly would shutdown my Maps and Navigation when I wanted to read a Kik message.
If I have Kik open and want to read a txt msg, it takes like 10 seconds after clicking the txt msg icon to show the txt.
Is there an app or method that everyone uses on this phone that I don't know about to get this phone to run speedy? Or, is it just so outdated it can't run modern versions of apps?
I just want navigation, txt, kik, and a light browser like dolphin.
Can a Fascinate handle all that and be snappy and quick??
In the mean time, I am switching over to my S3, though I don't like how it's so big I can't reach all the screen with one hand.
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i think you should understand that this phone has a single-core CPU. running at 1GHz. this phone is almost 4 years old. it's amazing this thing can even run things like Kitkat at all, let alone with the relative finesse the most recent unjust build provides.
it took me a while to realize that apps these days are not optimized for single-core CPUs, it took upgrading to a gs4 to realize that. the fascinate is an admittedly, well, slow phone. or its not meant for multitasking, definitely.
the s3 runs circles around this phone. almost anything does. i've never really found anything that allows for the multitasking and insane speed that i get out of my s4, the closest i've ever gotten was cm7, but that even in its stable release had tons of SOD problems (sleep of death, phone locks and never comes back on).
part of the issue is that the fascinate has 512MB of RAM. back in 2010, it was adequate. not even good, just.. alright. these days the norm is 2GB. a phone with 1GB of RAM is considered outdated. despite google's efforts to optimize kitkat for 512MB devices, this phone's GPU shares RAM with the system, and depending on the configuration, usually 100+ MB is reserved for the GPU, leaving typically about 360-384MB of RAM. You can get more (the kitkat ROM i've mentioned allows 416MB of RAM to the system) but things will start breaking, particularly HD video recording and torch, among other things
skepticmisfit said:
i think you should understand that this phone has a single-core CPU. running at 1GHz. this phone is almost 4 years old. it's amazing this thing can even run things like Kitkat at all, let alone with the relative finesse the most recent unjust build provides.
it took me a while to realize that apps these days are not optimized for single-core CPUs, it took upgrading to a gs4 to realize that. the fascinate is an admittedly, well, slow phone. or its not meant for multitasking, definitely.
the s3 runs circles around this phone. almost anything does. i've never really found anything that allows for the multitasking and insane speed that i get out of my s4, the closest i've ever gotten was cm7, but that even in its stable release had tons of SOD problems (sleep of death, phone locks and never comes back on).
part of the issue is that the fascinate has 512MB of RAM. back in 2010, it was adequate. not even good, just.. alright. these days the norm is 2GB. a phone with 1GB of RAM is considered outdated. despite google's efforts to optimize kitkat for 512MB devices, this phone's GPU shares RAM with the system, and depending on the configuration, usually 100+ MB is reserved for the GPU, leaving typically about 360-384MB of RAM. You can get more (the kitkat ROM i've mentioned allows 416MB of RAM to the system) but things will start breaking, particularly HD video recording and torch, among other things
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Lol my phone e400 is super multitasker
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fewert said:
Yeah I read a post saying to do what you just described with success.
However, this phone is really poor. I have tried GB, ICS, JB and all of them I get similar performance just different features.
The phone can't handle two apps at once regardless of the rom.
I was traveling to a different city to get something on Craigs. It constantly would shutdown my Maps and Navigation when I wanted to read a Kik message.
If I have Kik open and want to read a txt msg, it takes like 10 seconds after clicking the txt msg icon to show the txt.
Is there an app or method that everyone uses on this phone that I don't know about to get this phone to run speedy? Or, is it just so outdated it can't run modern versions of apps?
I just want navigation, txt, kik, and a light browser like dolphin.
Can a Fascinate handle all that and be snappy and quick??
In the mean time, I am switching over to my S3, though I don't like how it's so big I can't reach all the screen with one hand.
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skepticmisfit said:
i think you should understand that this phone has a single-core CPU. running at 1GHz. this phone is almost 4 years old. it's amazing this thing can even run things like Kitkat at all, let alone with the relative finesse the most recent unjust build provides.
it took me a while to realize that apps these days are not optimized for single-core CPUs, it took upgrading to a gs4 to realize that. the fascinate is an admittedly, well, slow phone. or its not meant for multitasking, definitely.
the s3 runs circles around this phone. almost anything does. i've never really found anything that allows for the multitasking and insane speed that i get out of my s4, the closest i've ever gotten was cm7, but that even in its stable release had tons of SOD problems (sleep of death, phone locks and never comes back on).
part of the issue is that the fascinate has 512MB of RAM. back in 2010, it was adequate. not even good, just.. alright. these days the norm is 2GB. a phone with 1GB of RAM is considered outdated. despite google's efforts to optimize kitkat for 512MB devices, this phone's GPU shares RAM with the system, and depending on the configuration, usually 100+ MB is reserved for the GPU, leaving typically about 360-384MB of RAM. You can get more (the kitkat ROM i've mentioned allows 416MB of RAM to the system) but things will start breaking, particularly HD video recording and torch, among other things
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I have not used the kik so I can't really say about it's performance,,, I have seen on the 4.4 kitkat rom from Unjust when I have used google maps navigation it was a huge battery sucker, no matter if I only put it on device [gps] only. I could barely even use it and on a charge it was still draining it faster than it could take it.
i did not have this on jellybean roms
I have not had the the problems you describe '10 seconds to open an app'.
Hangouts used to be slow opening initially but their latest update has made it much faster
I don't think it's multitasking is bad for what it is as a phone given it's specs,,, but everyone use a phone differently,,,
so I mostly agree with the overall jest of what skept is saying,,, it is ultimately limited by the 512MB ram available to use.
for GB and JB roms you can also look at the V6 Supercharger thread, it does help with multi-tasking, it can be a bit hard to understand how to implement it but once you figure that out it goes decent, boot up and time till initial use are much longer than normal, but you just have to plan your reboots for when plenty of time allows
i think jellybean roms are very good performers and given the face that you can use a different kernel that allows for overclocking up 1400 Mhz if desired,,, it's a give and take though,,,, over 1200Mhz and battery life goes south very quickly. [luckily the battery doesn't take long to charge, usually 1 hour,,, and even 5 minutes here or 10 minutes there will really help it last through the day]
Most of the earlier jellybean [4.1.x] versions seemed to give better battery life from what I remember than the newer [4.2.x] ones
and there are a lot of different ones to choose from to suite your style or needs from basic cm to full customization.
most of them were stable enough to be daily drivers,,, the big thing is you will just have to read up on a particular one or just break down and try some to see if they fit what you want.
With all that said though the fascinate will never perform like an S3, S4, Nexus, Nexus 4, Moto G, Moto X
I would consider checking out the Motorola Moto G, it's physical dimensions are nearly she same as the fassy but a hugely better phone, screen size, etc and depending on your phone carrier needs it can be had for as little as $65 bucks...
Well lg optimus l3 is very powerful and performant in fact of multitasking if you're a dev or not a complete noob.My phone can go until 1.2 ghz without probs and its factory clock speed was 800 mhz.Most apps aren't optimized for multi-cores and l3 is single core.384 mb of ram are enough on stock and 301 mb aren't enough on cm.But my kernels got swap.
Battery is very good:10days in stand by,2 days in normal use.
Antutu sucks but i don't believe in it.
So its up to the devs,we're good devs and there are more than 100000 l3s in the world.Now we're getting dualboot.Its all about devs,its all about devs.
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Just recently obtained a redmi note 3 and I am stocked with how good it is and how performance wise it feels like a top end phone.
However I have come to the realization of....
What the hell do you need a hexacore 3gb ram for just seems a bit overboard, can't imagine why or how to use it to all its advantage...
So.. What do you use yours for??
Almost thinking virtualisation of os's should be pretty viable!
well the way miui clears apps when you power off the phone the 3gb will probably never get utilized by the very aggressive app closing miui does, but I guess in some cases like custom firmwares (cm13) it would be possible to run a ton of apps without the system closing them down,
The phone only two cores that run at 1.8 ghz, and the other 4 run at 1.4 ghz -I believe- most apps only use two cores though, I guess some expertly coded game emulators or games can take advantage of the extra cores, possibly web browsers too..., the system also has a 500 meg swap file zram (I think they should of left the swap file out though since if the system uses that it will be slower access then the actual ram)
I know the performance of the 2gb and 3gb variants are about the same, but I just had to get the 3gb version since it has a 64bit os and it might take a bit more ram then a 32bit os would, and the 32 gb emmc is nice too, very fast 100+ mb/s wite/read - so even using a big sdcard to compensate wouldn't have near the speed of the built in 32gb storage memory
my main concern with this phone is the lack of exfat support, seriously sdxc has been out for quite some time now and exfat for android is open source (from samsung), or they could of used exfat fuse support as an alternative... sdcards over 32gb are going to need to be formatted to fat32...which is kinda ridiculous
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=exfat
Intensive games will exploit the extra cores. It's also a very, very efficient battery wise.
Not really into phone games but most defiantly will try some of the classics, however more interested in apps etc, I remember on my Asus 7 I could emulate kali to do some penetration testing.. Anything like this viable on Miui
Really not bothered with custom roms and root etc got this phone to last and stock roms seems perfect so far.
Same here since it ships with android 5.1.1 it's pretty modern , Android 5+ have already switched to the new ART runtime (vs the older dalvik found on android 4), of course getting on android 6 is nice but it's not a huge step from 5, so for now I will hold off on a custom firmware and I kinda like miui 7-except the launcher which I replaced with TSF Launcher.
Since we do have an official CM13 build tree maybe if it progresses to CM14 (android 7/N) I might be tempted to switch over since N is supposed to have 20% better optimizations well see it's much too new atm.
Some android games are nice but I always had a knack for emulators like epsxe, ppsspp ,drastic, reicast ..etc so enjoyable to see android actually emulating another machine and running at native speeds, having good GPS is another thing I like about this phone, some phones can never even get a lock but this phone is very quick at getting a 3d gps lock, so nice for navigating, I haven't really tested the camera out much but the photo quality seems semi-ok (when zooming in you can see like a blur rather then pixels, where on my Samsung tablet camera it's more pixelized at high zoom, ) but pictures do look ok at normal resolution I will look into the camera more, I do know it can do 4k video and slo-mo, the camera has a uniqe flash too it has a orange flash and a white flash (to simulate sunlight?) - never seen that before.
True true, will be getting all them emulators out for sure and does it really do 4k and slow_mo? On stock camera app? Can't imagine using my tablet again after having this phone for a day ha.
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True true, will be getting all them emulators out for sure and does it really do 4k and slow_mo? On stock camera app? Can't imagine using my tablet again after having this phone for a day ha.
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Same my poor Samsung galaxy tab pro 8.4, I have been really neglecting it since I got this phone,
as for 4k video I am pretty sure it is locked out in the stock camera app, you will need to use opencamera or similar, slo-mo if I recall needs to be in 720p mode for the option to show