Since many of us plan to upgrade to a Honeycomb release, we may be interested in the USB host feature.
This brings up the question of the HTC 12pin micro USB port.
Question: If we can use a standard micro USB for typical data transfer purposes, can we also use the standard 5pin micro USB cables to attach things like mice, keyboards, and card readers?
I am thinking this might be a valuable adaptor??
vancraft said:
Since many of us plan to upgrade to a Honeycomb release, we may be interested in the USB host feature.
This brings up the question of the HTC 12pin micro USB port.
Question: If we can use a standard micro USB for typical data transfer purposes, can we also use the standard 5pin micro USB cables to attach things like mice, keyboards, and card readers?
I am thinking this might be a valuable adaptor??
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USB host alone would be worth an upgrade - for me.
Apparently, USB host is not enabled in the Official HTC HC releases. We are looking into how to enable it for rooted ROM. When that is accomplished it will be posted on the forum. When software enabled the cable will be a standard connector micro-USB , possibly needing an OTG cable. In addition to the cable and software, you will require a powered hub to connect devices as the Flyer cannot supply power through the USB connector
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Apparently, USB host is not enabled in the Official HTC HC releases. We are looking into how to enable it for rooted ROM. When that is accomplished it will be posted on the forum. When software enabled the cable will be a standard connector micro-USB , possibly needing an OTG cable. In addition to the cable and software, you will require a powered hub to connect devices as the Flyer cannot supply power through the USB connector
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I am very sad because my honeycomb flyer can not detect the flash disc, usb mouse and usb keyboard, though already using Belkin powered hub! Now I use mwakious rom because it is the smoothest of all the existing custom rom.
DigitalMD, is there any custom rom based on latest leak rom from globatron that can run current USB Host? Why the USB HC can not enable USB Host but the HC first leak can do it?
I am confused because on the official HTC rom there are also USB storage settings.
Without USB Host, then HC Flyer lost one of its greatest benefits than gingerbread. This problem must be solved immediately. Is it possible that official rom will be updated again?
Thank you for your help!
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Now we can conclude that the USB Host is not supported by the official HC on the Flyer and View!
USB host was not available on the official OTA final either GB or HC. You cannot say it has been lost, because officially it was never there. It has been sneaked into some custom ROMs and the HC leak initially. There will be HC custom ROMs coming and we are looking into re -enabling USB Host, but it was never a generally available feature so its not considered a bug and I would not expect HTC to ever support it official since it cannot be used without an externally powered device (such as a powered hub) since the Flyer cannot supply power through the USB and this would lead to a multitude of support request calls emails etc.
If you have a favorite custom ROM developer, talk with them about adding USB host support.
But understand the limitations of USB host on Android. Most things other than USB hard drive support can be accomplished via other means in a simpler fashion I.e Bluetooth keyboard, mouse, etc. The USB host support in Android is very basic, you cannot just plug in any device and expect it to work, special devices need special drivers which are not going to be available in Android. Pretty much for now you can use things that act like keyboard, mouse or mass storage formatted Fat32 and not much else. having to use an external power source really takes the convenience factor out.
I use a Bluetooth keyboard and a Bluetooth mouse. I use Dropbox to store my files that i need to sync with in the cloud. Only occasionally do I miss the direct USB connection to large mass storage.
shoot....I incorrectly thought that host was enabled in Honeycomb. Oh, well, guess I'll wait and see what ROMS come out. Now I'm not in such a hurry to update to HC.
I think HC removed support for USB host because they did not want to deal with support for it when people tried to use it and found most devices would not work without external power and the the endless questions "will this device work?" no, will this , no, etc..
Since the hardware does not support a full USB host (no power) its just too much trouble to say its a real feature from HTC's standpoint . Just asking for trouble
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I think HC removed support for USB host because they did not want to deal with support for it when people tried to use it and found most devices would not work without external power and the the endless questions "will this device work?" no, will this , no, etc..
Since the hardware does not support a full USB host (no power) its just too much trouble to say its a real feature from HTC's standpoint . Just asking for trouble
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I haven't gone back to the stock kernel since recompiling the source but I have my suspicions that it is there, and if not it's easy to compile it in. I've gotten side-tracked on the view hboot for now but I'll get back to it when I'm done with that.
DigitalMD said:
I use a Bluetooth keyboard and a Bluetooth mouse. I use Dropbox to store my files that i need to sync with in the cloud. Only occasionally do I miss the direct USB connection to large mass storage.
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Direct USB connection is the simplest way to interact with many basic peripheral. Many people just don't know where to buy dedicated powered hub, so they don't use it! But it's very easy using a powered hub and does not add the slightest inconvenience. We will be very understand of the USB Host limitation, as well as the limitations of other handhelds supported USB Host, although they can provide additional power to the USB.
So, please, make it enable again on Honeycomb Flyer. Thank you in advance.
As DigitalMD, I also prefer to use Bluetooth peripherals as I hate carrying a multitude of cables around. For Storage, I use a modified DIR-685 with a 1Tb hard drive as it is also my hotel firewall. You could use a http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/external/external-hard-drive/goflex-satellite.
But I really think HTC have just erred with USB host.
If they disabled it, why leave it showing in Settings Storage why not remove it as in GB?
They will get more customer complaints for a non-function rather than a missing function!
solar powered usb hub
I found a solar powered usb hub on amazon that I hope will work nicely when usb host finally gets enabled. I'd post the link, but I am too n00b, it says. At amazon if you search "solar powered usb hub" its the first link. Once usb host is enabled it at least removes the annoying tether to a power outlet.
Farsquidge said:
As DigitalMD, I also prefer to use Bluetooth peripherals as I hate carrying a multitude of cables around. For Storage, I use a modified DIR-685 with a 1Tb hard drive as it is also my hotel firewall. You could use a http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/external/external-hard-drive/goflex-satellite.
But I really think HTC have just erred with USB host.
If they disabled it, why leave it showing in Settings Storage why not remove it as in GB?
They will get more customer complaints for a non-function rather than a missing function!
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I have a go flex satellite too, but I am just greedy
butterflygirl said:
I have a go flex satellite too, but I am just greedy
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You are never greedy bg, just exploring broader possibilities, same as me.
Yeah its just my own opinion that HTC pulled the option at the last second on the final release because its was in the earlier leaks. But I just think they saw a raft of calls coming because the interface won't even power most small thumb drives. I'd like to see it working, but its not really of much use.
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Ok, I just ordered a 32GB USB Flash Drive.
Some people report that the Athena recognizes some flash drives so I was thinking...why not remove the MD and take apart the 32GB flash drive and put it inside the Athena. Then solder the USB pins together internally so the USB drive is always connected internally to the device?
I haven't really put serious thought into this but wanted to run it past everyone and those hardware experts to see what every ways.
I have yet to look up the MD power requirements and compare those to the USB power requirements. Either way, if it's recognized it could mean a real upgrade to the device and we could always write a simple program to enable/disable the USB drive if power consumption is too great.
Your thoughts people on this?
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After further thinking I see four obvious obstacles:
- Stripping down the 32GB USB drive so it fits in the device in place of the MD. I'm hoping this isn't that big of an issue but then again I have no idea what i'm talking about. LOL
- 1 have to make sure the Athena recognizes the 32GB USB drive.
- Power Consumption as mentioned above, which might be overcome by utilizing a utility of some sort.
- Since the Athena requires the USB Host cable/adapter to make things like this work, there might need to be some type of mod internally to make this happen. I talking to someone with more knowledge of USB pin outs might help in this area.
-- EDIT: Olipro mentioned that this is most likely a non-issue. That the USB adapter just makes the USB connection a large one so the internal wiring I'm thinking about shouldn't be a problem. This is great news. One obstacle out of the way. Don't you love progress!
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Ok, I just ordered a 32GB USB Flash Drive.
Some people report that the Athena recognizes some flash drives so I was thinking...why not remove the MD and take apart the 32GB flash drive and put it inside the Athena. Then solder the USB pins together internally so the USB drive is always connected internally to the device?
I haven't really put serious thought into this but wanted to run it past everyone and those hardware experts to see what every ways.
I have yet to look up the MD power requirements and compare those to the USB power requirements. Either way, if it's recognized it could mean a real upgrade to the device and we could always write a simple program to enable/disable the USB drive if power consumption is too great.
Your thoughts people on this?
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After further thinking I see four obvious obstacles:
- Stripping down the 32GB USB drive so it fits in the device in place of the MD. I'm hoping this isn't that big of an issue but then again I have no idea what i'm talking about. LOL
- 1 have to make sure the Athena recognizes the 32GB USB drive.
- Power Consumption as mentioned above, which might be overcome by utilizing a utility of some sort.
- Since the Athena requires the USB Host cable/adapter to make things like this work, there might need to be some type of mod internally to make this happen. I talking to someone with more knowledge of USB pin outs might help in this area.
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hehe u know im always behind ur crazy ideas. lets get this to work!
possible incompatibilities of it not detecting the microdrive but should be able to be fixed by software
possibly will need to integrate usb host controller chip and wires inside as well
make sure not to screw up the charger either =p
but other than that it sounds good
Hi, for information: Athena Servicemanual says you need 3 things to replace if you disassemble your device (On-Off Key, CommManager Key and some rubbers).
So if you really get the USB-Flash running then you'll get problems putting everything together again.
I think you'll get errors because the G-Sensor doesn't detect any Microdrive. (maybe freeze or reset or some other issues?). Maybe you have to shorten the G-Sensor somehow. This will need people who own the original plan of the device and also know how to get information out of it.
But great idea!
Ok, just found out that the host adapter just changes the plug to a larger USB plug. So the wiring should be a piece of cake. Let's keep this going...before you know it the team won't have only brought you a great ROM but also provide a way to have a 32GB Athena and storage you no longer have to worry about and with no moving parts!!!
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Hi, for information: Athena Servicemanual says you need 3 things to replace if you disassemble your device (On-Off Key, CommManager Key and some rubbers).
So if you really get the USB-Flash running then you'll get problems putting everything together again.
I think you'll get errors because the G-Sensor doesn't detect any Microdrive. (maybe freeze or reset or some other issues?). Maybe you have to shorten the G-Sensor somehow. This will need people who own the original plan of the device and also know how to get information out of it.
But great idea!
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Thanks for your feedback. I also think this may work and if not with the drive I've ordered with some other USB. I've seen USB devices as small is a dime so this should work. I'll be happy to purchase a bunch of USB drives to see which work. I probably would like anyone with an Athena and a USB drive to test what they have and post the results.
For the record I ordered a Corsair Survivor 32GB USB Flash Drive model CMFUSBSRVR-32GB.
I think there was a group of people(I couldn't remember who exactly) who already dismantled their athena when it came out to see which micro drives in the market is compatible with the one installed in the athena. I suggest we find the post first before and read through their findings. There might be something there that may help with this project.
If I remember it correctly, there was even a host of pictures and instructions in dismantling the Athena.
I just couldn't remember other details because I was just browsing around and never thought of owning an athena.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303188
Something I found about USB Drives and the Athena
Wikipedia claims microdrives use more power then flash drives:
"consume more power than flash memory (on the order of 190mA, peak 310mA, at 3.3V) "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdrive
Good luck to you this would be cool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298987
HDs that work with the athena
What about a 72GB solid state drive?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/hands-on-with-sandisks-72gb-ssd-and-friends/
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What about a 72GB solid state drive?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/hands-on-with-sandisks-72gb-ssd-and-friends/
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Let`s keep this a short term, realistic and affordable goal. ;-p
USB storage is cheap, easily modified, compatible as it`s already recognized by the device both by the software and USB host capabilities of the device board, etc. Also, those drives aren`t yet available and I doubt people will want to spend over $800usd on them for Athena. No?
Well, IMHO there's two alternatives for such a modification:
1 - either use the ATA connection of the micro-drive with the 32 GB pendrive. Adapters exist, wiring should be tricky due to the size requirements (everything has to fit into the space usually used by the micro-drive);
2 - connect permanently the 32 GB USB pen-drive to the USB port. Removal of the micro-drive is in that case optional, maybe in order to make room.
The problem with the second option is that I am pretty sure this will screw-up USB slave connections, and more specifically ActiveSync. Altough, true, one can Sync through Bluetooth.
Two problems with the first alternative:
- G-Sensor, without a md, will no work anymore. BUT it can be disabled in a software manner, so that's no big issue aside from the fact that we won't be able to "tilt'n scroll";
- finding a compatible USB / ATA adapter (those are known to be... "capricious").
I find the first alternative much sexier, personnally... And it DOES get me thinking.
Why not just use one of theose new 16 or 32GB MicroSD/Transflash, or whatever the hell there called cards, just released at CES.. It would save ya
lots of work, and you wouldn't have to crack the Advantage open.
Yep, that's also being discussed on the forum.
But I do agree that having solid-state 32 GB instead of mechanical 8 GB in my Athena would suit me just fine.
Jointly with a 32 GB SDHC card, of course.
:-D lol
I currently have the 8GB SDHC....of course I'm going to buy the 16 and then the 32 as soon as they come out and I can get my hands on it...but my goal here is to replace the MD. After thinking it through even further, we could even setup an internal type of mechanism so as USB drives become larger and cheaper, we could just pop out the old and pop in the new thus continuing to increase the internal storage of our devices.
Maybe I'm just dreaming but replacing the MD seems to be a goal that we can achieve quickly and cost effectively. We've had the discussion of getting larger MD's...but always ran into obstacles we probably couldn't overcome. They are releasing large SSD's but we may have to mod the internal connection, etc. With the USB idea, the connection exists, compatibility is there, and it's very feasible. I'm just excited. LOL
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Well, IMHO there's two alternatives for such a modification:
1 - either use the ATA connection of the micro-drive with the 32 GB pendrive. Adapters exist, wiring should be tricky due to the size requirements (everything has to fit into the space usually used by the micro-drive);
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I'm thinking more simplistic. Take out the MD and dock it connect to. This frees up some space. Strip down USB drive as much as possible and hope that it fits some way into the device. If it fits, we can mount it in there in a number of ways. Solder 4 wires from USB drive to USB host interface on the board. Write some software to control (activate/deactivate aka mount/dismount) the USB drive and see how it goes.
2 - connect permanently the 32 GB USB pen-drive to the USB port. Removal of the micro-drive is in that case optional, maybe in order to make room.
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Not sure what you mean exactly but...I want the USB drive to be internal. Of course I could get some velcro and stick a 32GB USB drive to the back of my Athena, etc...but that would just be ugly.
You also need the USB host cable to do this unless you want to solder wires and run them from the outside of the device to the inside USB host pins. Let me know if I got the wrong picture here.
The problem with the second option is that I am pretty sure this will screw-up USB slave connections, and more specifically ActiveSync. Altough, true, one can Sync through Bluetooth.
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You bring up a very good point. I'm going to have to take my 4-in-1 cable and try to run a small USB drive while trying to ActiveSync. I wonder if that will still work. If it fails, the mod I'm proposing may cause a problem with ActiveSync connections. Anyone else have comments and/or ideas on this?
Two problems with the first alternative:
- G-Sensor, without a md, will no work anymore. BUT it can be disabled in a software manner, so that's no big issue aside from the fact that we won't be able to "tilt'n scroll";
- finding a compatible USB / ATA adapter (those are known to be... "capricious").
I find the first alternative much sexier, personnally... And it DOES get me thinking.
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I'm hoping we can do it without any adapters. Just straight soldering of the 4 USB wires needed to communicate. Should suffice. I found that I don't really use nor need the G-Sensor on the MD. For sure can be disabled in the ROM. The Athena Project team would just have to make a Special Edition ROM for those that do the mod.
I posted a few weeks ago about a SSD that Intel will be releasing soon. I believe it will be a drop-in replacement for the existing drive.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352834
techntrek said:
I posted a few weeks ago about a SSD that Intel will be releasing soon. I believe it will be a drop-in replacement for the existing drive.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352834
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I actually read that thread a little while ago. Do you know when it will be released and how fast they will get up to larger drives like 8, 16, 32, etc. GB's?
ia ctually dont think you will run into active sync problems...
reason being i remember a special cable that came with my friends hermes that split the usb port into two
one for charging and one for syncing...
so i think if we disable the flash drive when syncing it should be fine
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there should be any technical reason why the Flyer cant run on Honeycombe 3.1 and implement the usb host update so I can download jpegs from my dslr using usb.
Many thanks.
It might be worth trying it without honeycomb, I believe that Qualcomm chips have supported USB host since Eclair, perhaps HTC enabled it already?
Has anyone tried it yet?
I'd like to read some gps data from a SD card.
Thanks guys but needed a tablet asap which would also allow me to transfer files from my dslr via usb. Its been confirmed on other forums that the 3.1 update from Motorola will enable this so went with the Zoom
If you just need it for the DSLR have you considered an EyeFI card? For less than $100 you can get a direct connection from the camera to the tablet (or phone).
Dolmangar said:
If you just need it for the DSLR have you considered an EyeFI card? For less than $100 you can get a direct connection from the camera to the tablet (or phone).
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I know, its a great solution but my D700 only uses CF cards which aren't currently supported.
anpictum said:
I know, its a great solution but my D700 only uses CF cards which aren't currently supported.
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Yeah I have a D70 that's not supported either. I haven't gone and gotten one for my D60 yet although I've considered it a few times.
USB-host on Flyer
hi guys!
any news on this topic?
as there is already tmp root achieved and permanent root on s-off flyers, has anybody already tried to implement usb host functionality now?
I believe to have heard, that Honeycomb should support USB-host functionality automatically... Do we need to wait for 3.2, or could we get it earlier?
I'd really appreciate this (as I am also owning a DSLR from Canon), and would be willing to donate.
greets, alf.
Sure that the Flyer has the necessary chipset to work as a USB host?
Sent from HTC Flyer using Tapatalk
I'm actually working on a direct DSLR app using USB host, a preview of which should hopefully be released by the end of the week (alpha, not beta).
I'm mentioning this because it works on the Galaxy S2 with 2.3.4. I've not been able to get it to work on the Galaxy S1 with 2.3.4, but it just goes to show, it may not be 100% necessary to be running HC 3.1 to support it (as evidenced by the SGS2).
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
Either way, the chips themselves have supported it for years and years, that's not the issue. Kernel and framework support and such is the problem.
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
yes, the flyer got a micro usb port.
I also happen to have the correct usb host cable (micro usb to usb-female...), so as soon as your software is out, I would give it a try.
please keep us informed, thx!
greets, alf
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What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
yes, the flyer got a micro usb port.
I also happen to have the correct usb host cable (micro usb to usb-female...), so as soon as your software is out, I would give it a try.
please keep us informed, thx!
greets, alf
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Test with a card reader or ext hd (powered) plugged to your cable and see if you get a new drive through a file explorer... The kernel will definitely need to support this functionality, or the fstab may need to be modified.
alf261173 said:
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
yes, the flyer got a micro usb port.
I also happen to have the correct usb host cable (micro usb to usb-female...), so as soon as your software is out, I would give it a try.
please keep us informed, thx!
greets, alf
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Indeed if you have a micro usb cable already, connect a usb stick, see if anything happens... that should tell you straight up.
of course I already tried different devices (USB-stick, hard drive, camera directly...), but there was absolutely no reaction ...
simply plugging it in doesn't work.
greets
Then it's probably lacking kernel and/or framework support.
is there a way to fix this with root?
any news on this matter?
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Then it's probably lacking kernel and/or framework support.
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Hi Chainfire,
have you looked into the Archos Gen8 range of tablets for any kernel info?
They utilise Froyo and have had USB host since day one. Maybe you could patch something from there?
H.
And what about porting the results for the SGT described here? http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...e-versatile-thanks-to-usb-host-functionality/
I can't wait. A Flyer with notes, the pen and USB host would be an fantastic tool for photography AND for any kind of fieldwork.
If you can take a photo with a proper camera and then check it on a flyer awesome display and use the pen... just imagine!
Sometimes I'm afraid that HTC did not bet enough hard for a fantastic device!
So I just saw a tweet about how on a SGS2 you can use a Samsung cord and are thus able to plug in USB devices. I had no idea you could do that, I knew with the Galaxy Nexus you could, but not the SGS2.
Is there any similar thing for the Amaze that anyone had heard of?
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So I just saw a tweet about how on a SGS2 you can use a Samsung cord and are thus able to plug in USB devices. I had no idea you could do that, I knew with the Galaxy Nexus you could, but not the SGS2.
Is there any similar thing for the Amaze that anyone had heard of?
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Are you talking about the USB micro/mini plug turning into a USB host port instead of a client port?
there have been hack up's for this since the N1 that even let you run a USB video card off of it (with a power adapter hacked into the USB line tho)... like this http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
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Are you talking about the USB micro/mini plug turning into a USB host port instead of a client port?
there have been hack up's for this since the N1 that even let you run a USB video card off of it (with a power adapter hacked into the USB line tho)... like this http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
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Yea, that's what I'm talking about, but looking around online about the SGS2 all you need is that OTG cable and it works. This solution looks fairly intense, with changing the kernel and editing scripts... Thanks anyways, at least we know it's possible.
@faux said the USB OTG code is missing in the HTC kernel. so, either htc or someone write some code in the kernel or it won't happen.
Not sure if the Telus kernel is different but using the stock .config file, it seems OTG is enabled.
OTG support for Qualcomm on-chip USB controller (USB_MSM_OTG_72K) is what is enabled.
How hard would it be to get something like this to work with the Rezound?
I know with the Galaxy Nexus you can plug a microUSB to USB adapter in and use flash drives and external hard drives if you're using the right kernel.
I'm wanting something like this because it would be nice to plug into the network at work and ping printers and stuff like that with my phone instead of finding a computer and logging in.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812196235
Not in Gingerbread
USB host mode is only supported in Honeycomb or above, so this won't be possible without ICS on this phone.
I'm not sure if anyone has made an ICS kernel that supports USB host mode.
Also, in addition to compatible software, the phone also needs compatible hardware, which the Rezound might not have.
If you don't have wireless access buy an airport express.
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USB host mode is only supported in Honeycomb or above, so this won't be possible without ICS on this phone.
I'm not sure if anyone has made an ICS kernel that supports USB host mode.
Also, in addition to compatible software, the phone also needs compatible hardware, which the Rezound might not have.
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Thanks for your input
GrayTheWolf said:
If you don't have wireless access buy an airport express.
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And this would defeat the purpose completely.
circa881 said:
Thanks for your input
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Apparently Chainfire tested a bunch of devices and listed the Rezound as incompatible.
http://usbhost.chainfire.eu/
He tested both Gingerbread and ICS, and none of them worked.
(Although those are all probably stock or modified Sense kernels, so maybe there's hope for AOSP? )
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And this would defeat the purpose completely.
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How?
He said USB to Ethernet. Apparently he only has a hard wire connection. So, buy an airport express to make that hardwire wireless.
GrayTheWolf said:
How?
He said USB to Ethernet. Apparently he only has a hard wire connection. So, buy an airport express to make that hardwire wireless.
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It doesn't totally defeat the purpose, but considerably complicates things. I'd sooner carry a laptop than break out a wireless router, fire it up, make sure it won't interfere with anything on the wired or wireless side (could be tough to do if you have to log in wireless), then ping/ssh/<your-protocol-here> through that device to get to the device I'm looking for.
With a USB dongle, plug it into the phone, into the wall, and do what you need to do.
Yeah the USB thing would be nice.
You are over complicating the router. Most routers are plug and play nowadays so Ethernet into existing network, and power is all you need with wireless freedom.
It would be even more to carry with me and more money than I'm willing to spend. I was just curious to know how hard it would be to plug my phone straight into the network so I can ping printers or telnet into stuff at work
circa881 said:
It would be even more to carry with me and more money than I'm willing to spend. I was just curious to know how hard it would be to plug my phone straight into the network so I can ping printers or telnet into stuff at work
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Ethernet word be nice, but it doesn't exist. I was just providing an alternative.
I would be careful about plugging things into the work network. Some IT managers are rather...protective of their domains and set up extensive security, to the point where the particular port you plug into may shut down if it recognizes an unauthorized device. I work for the Marine Corps, and aside from the fact it's a punishable offense to connect an unauthorized device to the Navy/Marine Corps Intranet (and attached information systems), the switches will immediately disable a port with an unrecognized device connected.
Any chance of this being supported? I did plug my USB OTG stick into my cradle but nothing happened... I know, wishful thinking lol...
death_entry said:
Any chance of this being supported? I did plug my USB OTG stick into my cradle but nothing happened... I know, wishful thinking lol...
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The USB OTG spec uses the 5th pin on micro b, which is not exposed via the cradle. Early devices and those not fully implementing the spec in hardware and software where able to use helper software to force the port into usb host mode which may be worth a try, however a quick search only yielded android otg helper tools which depended on the hardware.
Most of my experience with these older devices where non-android except for the old G1, so a bit of research would be needed before seeing if a software-only solution can be implemented. Barring that, I'd guess a hardware modification would be required to expose, toggle, or force the missing pin.
--fg
fg said:
The USB OTG spec uses the 5th pin on micro b, which is not exposed via the cradle. Early devices and those not fully implementing the spec in hardware and software where able to use helper software to force the port into usb host mode which may be worth a try, however a quick search only yielded android otg helper tools which depended on the hardware.
Most of my experience with these older devices where non-android except for the old G1, so a bit of research would be needed before seeing if a software-only solution can be implemented. Barring that, I'd guess a hardware modification would be required to expose, toggle, or force the missing pin.
--fg
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Urgh that's annoying and all because they missed off just one extra pin, anyway thx for getting back to me with such a detailed response