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Everyone return your Primes and buy the new Pantech Element that is "Waterproof"...
... this is definitely the Prime Killer
Actually I love my grey prime with dock and so does my wife. And by the way please stop complaining about the GPS. If you need a GPS that bad, buy a Garmin!
OK bi*ch session over
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steelerfnpeter said:
... this is definitely the Prime Killer
Actually I love my grey prime with dock and so does my wife. And by the way please stop complaining about the GPS. If you need a GPS that bad, buy a Garmin!
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We're you planning on providing a Link? That's okay just the DESCRIPTION is enough for me to sell my Prime and get a new Pantech product, leaders of the bleeding edge that they are, besides my Prime doen't have working GPS and they had it on the spec sheet and took it off,
But does the GPS work more than 30ft deep? (cmon, ya knew it was comin)
And I'm 99% sure he was kidding, I saw the engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/05/pantech-element-tablet-rumored-for-att/
Pantech is up there with the Coby $100 walgreens tablets and the new Motorola Xyboards priced at ~$700 when you consider the mandatory 3g service...They're all jokes and most people on this board should know that
Sweet... pr0n in the bathtub!
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but i can do that with my prime + ziplock bag right now!
Its not rocket science.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/waterproof-bag-case-with-strap-for-ipad-blue-105062
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Have you not seen the thread about wifi not working with bluetooth for many users, myself included?
GPS is worth *****ing about because under no circumstances is it acceptable for a second generation device to be missing features from a previous device for the reason that the engineers didn't foresee that the 100% aluminum back would block signals. This is a well documented issue in the tech world which is why everyone has included a plastic panel/piece wherever they stick the antennas. The sheer stupidity of it is mind-boggling.
Also one of the points of Android is Google Maps and the ability of devices to do more and supplant single use devices like a Garmin GPS. That's why Garmin implements those terrible bluetooth and mp3 features in an attempt to compete in the current marketplace. I personally have a Garmin because I work for Papa John's and the Verizon outage in Q2 2011 illustrated that I can't trust a cell phone provider. For a full week I had to use a map .
Now the GPS issue for me is that even in the middle of my street with no obstructions I still can't lock to more than 2 satellites no matter which way I turn/hold the device. In my paranoia I was wondering if those bastards at LightSquared were testing their LTE in my area.
Either way what is the point of *****ing about *****ing? People don't have a right to be mad when a 500$ device doesn't deliver on what it promises? There is a difference between something not being ideal and not working altogether. More to the point this is an issue that should never have made it past the R&D stage. Did ASUS think that people wouldn't care? But for me the current deal breaker is the lack of bluetooth. I need my phone for other stuff, so it's not the device that is ideal for music in the car, so I usually use my tablet but it is 100% unusable in my car. Someone at ASUS is currently working the problem but while I am hopeful I am not all that confident that the problem will be fixed.
Non way I would ever buy a tablet from pantec not even a phone or anything from them!
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Chill out man. I was just having a little fun with folks like you. It is a joke.
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Chill out man. I was just having a little fun with folks like you. It is a joke.
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Idk how ppl misinterpreted that, it was very obviously a joke.
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Must be a Pittsburgh thing. They never go over well here in Baltimore....lol
setite said:
Have you not seen the thread about wifi not working with bluetooth for many users, myself included?
GPS is worth *****ing about because under no circumstances is it acceptable for a second generation device to be missing features from a previous device for the reason that the engineers didn't foresee that the 100% aluminum back would block signals. This is a well documented issue in the tech world which is why everyone has included a plastic panel/piece wherever they stick the antennas. The sheer stupidity of it is mind-boggling.
Also one of the points of Android is Google Maps and the ability of devices to do more and supplant single use devices like a Garmin GPS. That's why Garmin implements those terrible bluetooth and mp3 features in an attempt to compete in the current marketplace. I personally have a Garmin because I work for Papa John's and the Verizon outage in Q2 2011 illustrated that I can't trust a cell phone provider. For a full week I had to use a map .
Now the GPS issue for me is that even in the middle of my street with no obstructions I still can't lock to more than 2 satellites no matter which way I turn/hold the device. In my paranoia I was wondering if those bastards at LightSquared were testing their LTE in my area.
Either way what is the point of *****ing about *****ing? People don't have a right to be mad when a 500$ device doesn't deliver on what it promises? There is a difference between something not being ideal and not working altogether. More to the point this is an issue that should never have made it past the R&D stage. Did ASUS think that people wouldn't care? But for me the current deal breaker is the lack of bluetooth. I need my phone for other stuff, so it's not the device that is ideal for music in the car, so I usually use my tablet but it is 100% unusable in my car. Someone at ASUS is currently working the problem but while I am hopeful I am not all that confident that the problem will be fixed.
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You don't have to buy it and if you did you can return it. Problem solved!
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The funny thing is I just purchased a tf101 on eBay and then I won a Pantech Element four days later. I must say that I was completely surprised by the performance of the Element, it benchmarked a whole lot better than the orig Transformer and it is super smooth and great to work with, I was surprised. If only I would have waited on my transformer purchase for a few days I could have sold the Pantech and gotten the tablet I had really wanted, the Prime (although, I must say all the GPS and wifi issues everyone is reporting is discouraging).
I never would have purchased a Pantech myself, but after getting it for free I must say that I would actually recommend it to people based on the performance and the price. I hear Pantech actually makes high end devices in Korea that rival LG and Samsung, but the US just gets their lower end phones.
Sokonomi said:
Its not rocket science.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/waterproof-bag-case-with-strap-for-ipad-blue-105062
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Great for swimming, drifting and other outdoor activities
wut.
Wordlywisewiz said:
Non way I would ever buy a tablet from pantec not even a phone or anything from them!
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You don't have to buy it and if you did you can return it. Problem solved!
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I did buy it and will let you know if Asus let's me return it for a full refund soon !
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I did buy it and will let you know if Asus let's me return it for a full refund soon !
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Returned my first prime and sold the second on Ebay for a small profit. Have a galaxy tab 7.7 now and wow locks on to 12-15 sats in seconds while indoors plus the amoled screen beats the heck out of IPS.
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Returned my first prime and sold the second on Ebay for a small profit. Have a galaxy tab 7.7 now and wow locks on to 12-15 sats in seconds while indoors plus the amoled screen beats the heck out of IPS.
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The AMOLED screen does rock - black being jet black 'n all, but it's not as bright as the Prime's SuperIPS, 550nits compared to the 500nits of the galaxy. Samsung like to overdo the contrast/saturation to make it look more impressive, but actually it is a bit more unrealistic than the Prime's colour output.
PS the Pantech is UGLY!
I think more than a few of us are disgusted by their actions today. As much as I love the software upgrade cycle, this indignity is too much.
sick post bro.. should make this a sticky.
Cool story, butthurt bro.
This is basically what happens to early adopters.
Suck it up.
so we should be disgusted asus made us the first ics tablet in the USA, and gave it 3 days earlier than promised? confused...
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Sorry, I've been bitten by the early adopter bug before, this is different.
I've never heard of a product coming out having the issues with performance that the Prime has had, had the manufacturer admit it and have there answer to be taking the features off the cut sheet and announcing an updated model a week later.
I almost forgave them for the TF101 dock not being compatible even though they said it would work with future updates. The pattern of dishonorable lies shows itself.
Keeping my prime... when it comes in eventually.
And probably moving to the new Samsung Galaxy Tab when it comes out this summer.
Honestly they are 2 different products with different pricing structures.
Furthermore, the new Prime comes out 4 months (or more) from now.
The way electronics are moving, a company has a right to upgrade its specs with a new device at a higher price in 4 months.
Imagine Samsung would introduce the Galaxy s3 in April / May. Do you think everyone who got an s2 last month would go mad?
Get used to technology - anything you buy will be obsolete, it's just a matter of when.
What actions?
Releasing ICS?
I will be keeping mine
Post update Prime is awesome!!! Totally different machine
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Honestly they are 2 different products with different pricing structures.
Furthermore, the new Prime comes out 4 months (or more) from now.
The way electronics are moving, a company has a right to upgrade its specs with a new device at a higher price in 4 months.
Imagine Samsung would introduce the Galaxy s3 in April / May. Do you think everyone who got an s2 last month would go mad?
Get used to technology - anything you buy will be obsolete, it's just a matter of when.
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For them to say "This isn't a professional GPS device" and then take GPS off the cut sheet is sad. The GPS doesn't even work enough for most people using apps with Geo-location.
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Imagine Samsung would introduce the Galaxy s3 in April / May. Do you think everyone who got an s2 last month would go mad?
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Samsung is introducing the Galaxy S3 in April?!? Those bastards!!!
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For them to say "This isn't a professional GPS device" and then take GPS off the cut sheet is sad. The GPS doesn't even work enough for most people using apps with Geo-location.
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I agree.
If GPS is your problem then I am sure you can return it and wait to buy the new one or something else.
That wasn't professional of them, but they admitted the mistake and I am sure they will take it back.
For 99% of the people though, GPS on a wi fi tablet is not an issue.
The Ipad doesn't even have it, and no one ever complained (then again, those are sheeps, not customers...)
I'm completely disgusted by their behaviour, so I went ahead and cancelled my order. I'm sure I'll be equally as disgusted when I have the TF700T in my hands.
Hell no, it's a great tablet.
As long as we have devs working on the prime for the foreseeable future (read: atleast another year or so) I would stick to my guns with the present Transformer prime.
Can I vote for "No and will everyone stop making all these pointless threads already"?
another nonsense post...totally happy with Asus and the prime...
Part of me is so sad seeing threads like this since I, and majority of the users here, don't even have Prime yet.
The problem is that the announcement was missing part. They should have announced a trade-in program for existing TF201 users who have the word GPS on the box, or offered to replace the back of the TF201 with the plastic version. Instead they announce an "upgrade" less than a month after the TF201s release and subsequent PR nightmare, that just happens to have the plastic back that would have fixed the current tablet. The timing of it makes me think the plastic back was meant for the TF201 but they didnt want to take the TF201s out of the box and replace the backs.
I paid for GPS. I expected GPS functionally identical or superior to the first generation TF101. I was not given the GPS I paid for. Furthermore, they have done NOTHING to apologize. They have not given me a refund, or even offered me a special coupon towards a friggin accessory. My ass hurts, doesn't yours?
Furthermore you can expect that this tablet won't have much in the way of community support. I suspect they have already halted production on this device. They might release a TF201 Rev. B with GPS removed altogether, or a plastic back, but we probably won't see any more. Oh wait, they did that already, it's called a TF700. This TF201 will likely be something of a collectors item With the TF101 on the lowend and the "highend" TF201 being replaced by the TF700 I don't expect there will be much of a market for the TF201. The only saving grace for the TF201 will be if the similar hardware means that ROMs for the TF700 work on the TF201.
Maybe if everyone returns their primes , I'll be the only one with one.
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Ok, I keep hearing around here that the TF201 is NOT being discontinued. And it seems reasonable that it would stick around. However, at my company, we had ordered 1 for the CFO and he really likes his and they are talking about ordering 6 more for other managers. The lady that does ordering called our vendor and they are saying that they talked to Asus directly and the TF201 is discontinued now. They said we would have to wait for the TF300.
Has there been any OFFICIAL announcement from Asus either way on this?
Its been discontinued for a while now as far as i know...because of all the wi-fi and GPS problems this specific model has. I believe the TF300 will be out in June or Q3 of 2012...whilest the TF700t will be out shortly after the TF300.
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Ok, I keep hearing around here that the TF201 is NOT being discontinued. And it seems reasonable that it would stick around. However, at my company, we had ordered 1 for the CFO and he really likes his and they are talking about ordering 6 more for other managers. The lady that does ordering called our vendor and they are saying that they talked to Asus directly and the TF201 is discontinued now. They said we would have to wait for the TF300.
Has there been any OFFICIAL announcement from Asus either way on this?
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I believe ASUS posted on their facebook page that the TF201 was not being discontinued and this was just a rumor. However this has been a couple months ago now so things may have changed. I also believe Gary Key stated a while back on the forums that the discontinued talk was merely a rumor.
As of March they are still manufacturing the TF201 as we have seen C3 serials show up in stores. It will be another week or two before we see C4 serials. If we don't start to see C4 serials after a couple of weeks then this would most likely indicate that it is being discontinued.
However, I strongly believe that ASUS is not and will not be discontinuing the TF201 any time soon. This is just speculation. And to answer your question as far as whether or not ASUS has provided an official statement, they have but it has been a couple of months since they did so.
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Ok, I keep hearing around here that the TF201 is NOT being discontinued. And it seems reasonable that it would stick around. However, at my company, we had ordered 1 for the CFO and he really likes his and they are talking about ordering 6 more for other managers. The lady that does ordering called our vendor and they are saying that they talked to Asus directly and the TF201 is discontinued now. They said we would have to wait for the TF300.
Has there been any OFFICIAL announcement from Asus either way on this?
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It is definitely discontinued and has been for several months, and this is evidenced by the VP of marketing on this site saying that it hasn't been discontinued. There are too many problems evidently (1% of all primes have issues).
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Its been discontinued for a while now as far as i know...because of all the wi-fi and GPS problems this specific model has. I believe the TF300 will be out in June or Q3 of 2012...whilest the TF700t will be out shortly after the TF300.
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I was not aware it had been discontinued. Why do you think this is still here?
usa.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201/
Not this rumor again..lmao. Prime is not being discontinued. PERIOD. End of story. The Asus representative, Gary, even said in his Unofficial thread here just recently that it wasn't going to be discontinued. They still sell it online and at Gamestop, Best Buy, and other brick n mortar stores.
Look at his more recent updates in the op of that thread and you will see. Tell your boss he needs to find another retailer selling it..lol. there are still new people popping in xda everyday with new primes. Plus there's already C3 models out now. Soon we will see C4 ones.
Plus Prime is still heavily advertised on official Asus website. If it were to be discontinued, they would've quickly and easily of removed that info from website. People overreacting..lol.
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Its been discontinued for a while now as far as i know...because of all the wi-fi and GPS problems this specific model has. I believe the TF300 will be out in June or Q3 of 2012...whilest the TF700t will be out shortly after the TF300.
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Actually the tf-700 might not release in the u.s. at all. Plus now they are saying it won't be released anywhere until end of year more than likely. Check out the other thread where someone posted an email from Asus on the infinity pad.
Plus if it were discontinued, we would constantly see new model serial numbers pop up. Don't believe all the negative discontinued hype.
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Not this rumor again..lmao. Prime is not being discontinued. PERIOD. End of story. The Asus representative, Gary, even said in his Unofficial thread here just recently that it wasn't going to be discontinued. They still sell it online and at Gamestop, Best Buy, and other brick n mortar stores.
Look at his more recent updates in the op of that thread and you will see. Tell your boss he needs to find another retailer selling it..lol. there are still new people popping in xda everyday with new primes. Plus there's already C3 models out now. Soon we will see C4 ones.
Plus Prime is still heavily advertised on official Asus website. If it were to be discontinued, they would've quickly and easily of removed that info from website. People overreacting..lol.
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Actually the tf-700 might not release in the u.s. at all. Plus now they are saying it won't be released anywhere until end of year more than likely. Check out the other thread where someone posted an email from Asus on the infinity pad.
Plus if it were discontinued, we would constantly see new model serial numbers pop up. Don't believe all the negative discontinued hype.
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Yeah I hear you... however, best buy apparently is no longer carrying it. They don't ship it online, and no Best buy within a 200 miles radius of me has it in stock. That includes most of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis/St. Paul area... I think that if they were still actively in production don't you think that somebody would have them in stock? This all seems a little fishy to me... I even looked at bigger cities for Best Buy stock and nothing in Chicago or California area either... The only reason I got mine was because it was a open box that I got at my local Best Buy about a month ago. And mine is one of the older S/Ns, BCOKAS.
Just an observation...
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Yeah I hear you... however, best buy apparently is no longer carrying it. They don't ship it online, and no Best buy within a 200 miles radius of me has it in stock. That includes most of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis/St. Paul area... I think that if they were still actively in production don't you think that somebody would have them in stock? This all seems a little fishy to me... I even looked at bigger cities for Best Buy stock and nothing in Chicago or California area either... The only reason I got mine was because it was a open box that I got at my local Best Buy about a month ago. And mine is one of the older S/Ns, BCOKAS.
Just an observation...
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That's a good observation. I think its more of Asus retooling or adding new components to newer/future primes to eliminate possible issues. We have seen other similar letters like in op stating that. Plus prime can still be found online and at Gamestop. I know the one in my area has them in stock because I called the other day looking for a dock. They said they had no docks ATM, that they only had the tablet itself in stock at that store. Plus there are alot more places than best buy online that would have it. Still doesn't explain the flood of new owners showing up in prime forum everyday. Still doesn't explain why Asus still advertises it on their official u.s. and global website. Which is always updated with new info on products they carry.
I don't feed into the negative stuff as it tends to come more from past complainers and trolls. They love to stir up stuff in prime forum for others. Looking at everything in a negative way and put some crazy spin on things.
I had my Prime since 12/22. An early BCOKA model and works great. Haven't had any real problems with it. Wifi works great on it as I compared it to my Ipad wifi and atrix wifi. Prime is right on par or better than my other units.
It is not being discontinued but im sure if it weren't for the Prime owners complaining, they would've discontinued it. There are clear wifi/gps problems with the Prime due to the aluminum back (hence why their new line has a rubber/plastic strip). There is no reason for ASUS to have so many lines of products with such little differences.
And I'm gonna make a bold guess here, but I think they would much rather replace the Prime with the TF700 and make it $500 instead of $600. The reason they are making it $600 is so that it will seem like a "premium" Prime instead of a Prime replacement. Placing the TF700 at $600 would mean that it surpasses the price of the iPad that has a even higher res display and LTE. And frankly, the general consumer is unlikely to buy a Android tab that is as expensive as the iPad let alone more expensive.
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It is not being discontinued but im sure if it weren't for the Prime owners complaining, they would've discontinued it. There are clear wifi/gps problems with the Prime due to the aluminum back (hence why their new line has a rubber/plastic strip). There is no reason for ASUS to have so many lines of products with such little differences.
And I'm gonna make a bold guess here, but I think they would much rather replace the Prime with the TF700 and make it $500 instead of $600. The reason they are making it $600 is so that it will seem like a "premium" Prime instead of a Prime replacement. Placing the TF700 at $600 would mean that it surpasses the price of the iPad that has a even higher res display and LTE. And frankly, the general consumer is unlikely to buy a Android tab that is as expensive as the iPad let alone more expensive.
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I second that. I believe tf700 will completely replace TF201.
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i want to see the tf300 already! didn't it already go through the fcc?
My honest opinion is..
Why when the new models come out would they carry on making a Tablet that even Asus admits is flawed due to all Aluminium back.
Think Logically if the new models were available now & after reviewing options, would you purchase the TF201 ?
I do not think when new models are released there will be very little, if any demand for the Prime, so the Prime really is living on borrowed time.
As for Demandarins statement
Plus Prime is still heavily advertised on official Asus website. If it were to be discontinued, they would've quickly and easily of removed that info from website
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Surely you are not that naive, Asus would not admit to prime being discontinued untill it has replacement in shops, they want to keep selling primes untill replacement is in shops. Admitting it was discontinued now would greatly affect Sales.
Within 2 or 3 months of the TF300/700 being released the Prime will meet a quiet quick demise.
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I own a prime & dock which I am quite happy with apart from useless GPS
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Yeah I hear you... however, best buy apparently is no longer carrying it. They don't ship it online, and no Best buy within a 200 miles radius of me has it in stock. That includes most of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis/St. Paul area... I think that if they were still actively in production don't you think that somebody would have them in stock?
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Just your area. Prime is still available from Best Buy, not online, you just have to search local stores for inventory. Several around me are in stock atm.
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My honest opinion is..
Why when the new models come out would they carry on making a Tablet that even Asus admits is flawed due to all Aluminium back.
Think Logically if the new models were available now & after reviewing options, would you purchase the TF201 ?
I do not think when new models are released there will be very little, if any demand for the Prime, so the Prime really is living on borrowed time.
As for Demandarins statement
Surely you are not that naive, Asus would not admit to prime being discontinued untill it has replacement in shops, they want to keep selling primes untill replacement is in shops. Admitting it was discontinued now would greatly affect Sales.
Within 2 or 3 months of the TF300/700 being released the Prime will meet a quiet quick demise.
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I own a prime & dock which I am quite happy with apart from useless GPS
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I would easily purchase the prime over those 2. here's why. I don't want a lower spec 300 model. its less powerful, less battery life, display not as good. its regular ips, not ips+ like on prime. plus FCC report already shows 300 wireless performance can't be expected to be better than prime. especially with wifi/BT used at the same time. I don't want a tf-700 model because it will cost more. has less battery life than prime. plus, according to an email posted by another member is from Asus VP of technical whatever states no plans for u.s. release of infinity pad and it won't be released anywhere till the end of the year likely. check it out. so I have no reason to wait. fully satisfied with my prime.
we are still seeing new serial number Models pop up. we had Asus publicly and on this forum stating Prime will not be discontinued. AND YES, ASUS ADMITTED TO LESS THAN 1% OF UNITS HAVING ISSUES AND BEING RETURNED. It was stated on Cnet interview, which they said makes sense, and Gary explained it on this site. So no real concrete proof pointing to them discontinuing it. Come with some better info to back up the claim and then maybe me n others might believe it also. till then, just speculation and false rumors just like the other stuff floating around.
all their tablets now fit a particular price range including the prime. so I would easily take it over the others. its the thinnest and lightest. plus performs great all around. Plus Asus wouldn't happen to be working on a big announcement concerning prime if it were to be discontinued. they wouldn't even have bothered spending the money or research behind a fix to a product to be discontinued. they would just focus on future products instead and let prime die off.
better luck next time. Prime will live on. We will continue to knock all these false rumors down one by one..lmao
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We will have to wait and see who is right
For me the I'm in the Prime is on its Way Out Camp. My guess is TF700 will come out costing $100 more & within very short time primes funeral & TF700's price will drop to what prime is now to compete with that fruity competitor.
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@demandarin
We will have to wait and see who is right
For me the I'm in the Prime is on its Way Out Camp. My guess is TF700 will come out costing $100 more & within very short time primes funeral & TF700's price will drop to what prime is now to compete with that fruity competitor.
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You have my $5 on that.
Dem, if you look at it, there is definitely no place for TF201 in the pad line up. 3 of them overlap each other too much.
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You have my $5 on that.
Dem, if you look at it, there is definitely no place for TF201 in the pad line up. 3 of them overlap each other too much.
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I do agree, the devices are spec similar. BUT at least its more of a major difference compared to Samsung lineup of tablets. they have all different lineup and spec similar. except for one thing, all their stuff is highly overpriced. at least Asus has a more reasonable priceline.
I can see prime ending around next winter or so. but by then that's the natural cycle of tablets ending anyways. Tf-700 has already been stated to not release till the end of the year. check the letter from Asus VP of something thread. so that gives prime plenty of time to still sell. by the time tf-700 finally comes out, it'll be the natural ending cycle for prime anyways. that's how technology is.
with the specs of the prime, it still has a place that fits in the lineup. regardless what some may believe. then you have the Asus built Google nexus tegra3 7in. tablet said to come out. ill say prime won't be discontinued anytime soon. for any product, there always come a time down the road when its discontinued. Wait till the announcement is released then tell me again does it make sense that they will discontinue the prime.
lets say they do discontinue it soon, so what..lol. it won't stop my Prime from functioning or performing great. it won't stop the major developement we already have for it. it still won't stop up getting updates, at least for a good while. So prime owners good either way. they already discontinuing the tf-101 less than a year from being released. to have it replaced by 300 model. tf-101 model just got ICS so it's still receiving support. Discontinued or not, Asus supports their products down the road. So I'm not worried anyways. I already plan on keeping my prime till Tegra4 releases at the end of the year. So once people finally able to buy infinity pad, Asus will announce the new Tegra4 powered Transformer pad..lmao. tegra4 is worth the wait if you already own a prime, IMO. nothing else announced to come out really grabs my interest. except to tegra3 powered Google nexus tablet built by Asus. that'll be so cheap ill get one anyways. most other new tablets coming out for android will be tegra3 powered anyways. there's like over 12 tablets announced and set to release eventually that will be tegra3 powered. they all are listed in another thread.
So ill take that bet also. if I lose, ill gladly admit I was wrong. but people make it seem like this will happen in the next month or something...lol. prime will be discontinued on its natural cycle ending date for tablets.
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I do agree, the devices are spec similar. BUT at least its more of a major difference compared to Samsung lineup of tablets. they have all different lineup and spec similar. except for one thing, all their stuff is highly overpriced. at least Asus has a more reasonable priceline.
I can see prime ending around next winter or so. but by then that's the natural cycle of tablets ending anyways. Tf-700 has already been stated to not release till the end of the year. check the letter from Asus VP of something thread. so that gives prime plenty of time to still sell. by the time tf-700 finally comes out, it'll be the natural ending cycle for prime anyways. that's how technology is.
with the specs of the prime, it still has a place that fits in the lineup. regardless what some may believe. then you have the Asus built Google nexus tegra3 7in. tablet said to come out. ill say prime won't be discontinued anytime soon. for any product, there always come a time down the road when its discontinued. Wait till the announcement is released then tell me again does it make sense that they will discontinue the prime.
lets say they do discontinue it soon, so what..lol. it won't stop my Prime from functioning or performing great. it won't stop the major developement we already have for it. it still won't stop up getting updates, at least for a good while. So prime owners good either way. they already discontinuing the tf-101 less than a year from being released. to have it replaced by 300 model. tf-101 model just got ICS so it's still receiving support. Discontinued or not, Asus supports their products down the road. So I'm not worried anyways. I already plan on keeping my prime till Tegra4 releases at the end of the year. So once people finally able to buy infinity pad, Asus will announce the new Tegra4 powered Transformer pad..lmao. tegra4 is worth the wait if you already own a prime, IMO. nothing else announced to come out really grabs my interest. except to tegra3 powered Google nexus tablet built by Asus. that'll be so cheap ill get one anyways. most other new tablets coming out for android will be tegra3 powered anyways. there's like over 12 tablets announced and set to release eventually that will be tegra3 powered. they all are listed in another thread.
So ill take that bet also. if I lose, ill gladly admit I was wrong. but people make it seem like this will happen in the next month or something...lol. prime will be discontinued on its natural cycle ending date for tablets.
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last i heard they were debating on tegra 3 vs something else for the nexus tablet. something changed?
also kindle fire 2 will be coming out around the end of the year with tegra 3. i guess we'll see how the battery life measures up. but if you are in the market at present for something with good battery life..the acer iconia a510 contains a 13 hr video playback battery life according to its specs.
demandarin said:
I would easily purchase the prime over those 2. here's why.
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Didnt you say a while back, that the 300 would have been your pick if it was available back then when the prime came out?
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last i heard they were debating on tegra 3 vs something else for the nexus tablet. something changed?
also kindle fire 2 will be coming out around the end of the year with tegra 3. i guess we'll see how the battery life measures up. but if you are in the market at present for something with good battery life..the acer iconia a510 contains a 13 hr video playback battery life according to its specs.
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hold up..First thing is first..lmfao. where in da world did you hear kindle fire2 will have tegra3 also? I've never seen any hint of that. could be possible but very shocking. I doubt they will use that chip as its out of their league..lol.
To your first statement, they were debating ln it at first. now this is all according to tech sites rumors and speculations. at first it was said to have tegra3. then we heard to cut down on price they were going to use a lesser spec chip. then just recently, all reports show them going back with tegra3 and they will city costs elsewhere, which I think is good idea. Google nexus tablet needs to be powerful and low priced. this is to look more enticing than kindle fire or nook. so the latest spec on nexus tablet is that it will be made by Asus and still will use tegra3.
I heard about that Acer battery life. we will have to see what the real battery life performance will be once it releases. Prime + Dock still has best battery life of all. 18+ hrs. estimated battery life combined. plenty of people came in this forum and said if you think Asus has problems, Acer is alot worse. it'll be like going from jumping into a small fire to jumping into a volcano..lol. so I'm very skeptical on Acer products based on what other Acer owners that passed through here have said.
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junrider said:
Didnt you say a while back, that the 300 would have been your pick if it was available back then when the prime came out?
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if it was before prime was ever announced or released. sure. its cheaper priced. but I have no regrets on my prime purchase at all. it has performed to well for me. I wouldn't downgrade or get rid of my prime to get a lower spec 300. I do love the new colors though. I think the whole Asus line of tablets will be good. it will just depend on how much you can afford or willing tl spend. not everyone wants to dish out $500-700 for a prime or infinity pad. only reason I spent this much on a prime because I bought it as a Christmas gift to myself. plus I know its more than powerful enough that I won't need another tablet for a long time. Tegra4 powered Asus tablet is what I'm waiting for next. till then, prime does everything I ask of it just fine. This really is a great tablet. I never use my Ipad anymore. Prime is soo sexy Sleek n lightweight. lol
Just pre-ordered a nexus 7 from google. I wondered if anyone else has after their experiences with our other asus based tab?
Benchmarks look to be better than the infinity even- on some tests!
I am thinking that google must have tons of spit and polish into this to release it themselves. Hoping for a much better experience on this one than I had on the prime, thinking that the finger pointing will stop asus=>google=>nvidia or nvidia=>google=>asus.
Also noticed that the stupid proprietary asus port is gone in favor of micro-usb!
Review on engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-review/
I will first thing tomorrow morning. too good of a deal to pass up. ive seen i/o scores also. seems like they got it right or has updated drivers n such. might be due to jellybean firmware also.
Look at anandtech & slashgear review of it. they love it.
No chance in hell. Asus has lost me as a customer for good. I just read an article about how they made the Nexus 7 in 4 months. I hope Google was keeping a close eye on them, because I have no confidence this thing won't be a piece of garbage like the Prime.
nyijedi said:
No chance in hell. Asus has lost me as a customer for good. I just read an article about how they made the Nexus 7 in 4 months. I hope Google was keeping a close eye on them, because I have no confidence this thing won't be a piece of garbage like the Prime.
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Asus have had a 7" tablet in development for way longer than 4 months. I suspect the development of the MeMO dovetailed into the Nexus 7 quite nicely.
Ordered my Nexus 7 last night - had an original Galaxy Tab, and I love the 7" Form factor. A 7" Transformer would be the absolute nuts!
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nyijedi said:
No chance in hell. Asus has lost me as a customer for good. I just read an article about how they made the Nexus 7 in 4 months. I hope Google was keeping a close eye on them, because I have no confidence this thing won't be a piece of garbage like the Prime.
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I am not convinced that the prime is garbage, through all of the issues- the thing shows promise, they just did not do enough homework. They may have gotten it right this time.
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foxmeister;28016771[B said:
]Asus have had a 7" tablet in development for way longer than 4 months. I suspect the development of the MeMO dovetailed into the Nexus 7 quite nicely. [/B]
Ordered my Nexus 7 last night - had an original Galaxy Tab, and I love the 7" Form factor. A 7" Transformer would be the absolute nuts!
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Google Nexus 7 developed in just 4 months, sold essentially at cost price
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-developed-just-4-months-sold-essentially-cost-price
Nope !
nyijedi said:
Google Nexus 7 developed in just 4 months, sold essentially at cost price
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-developed-just-4-months-sold-essentially-cost-price
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that article praises Asus. Google themselves said no other company could pull it off in that time period and make a great device like the Nexus 7 is. Asus is the one who made it happen.
I feel your concern about your prime experience and being skeptical on another product. but its already been shown the 300 is good, infinity pad now toted top Android tablet and everything good on it. then now the nexus tablet. which has been receiving rave reviews so far. it performs better than alot of high end tablets in certain areas. including the prime, 300, and infinity pad.
plus you have Google as the big brother looking over this. the nexus 7 is Google's baby. they will make sure its in good hands. I will be ordering one tomorrow morning. too good of a deal, based on specs and performance, to pass up.
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that article praises Asus. Google themselves said no other company could pull it off in that time period and make a great device like the Nexus 7 is. Asus is the one who made it happen.
I feel your concern about your prime experience and being skeptical on another product. but its already been shown the 300 is good, infinity pad now toted top Android tablet and everything good on it. then now the nexus tablet. which has been receiving rave reviews so far. it performs better than alot of high end tablets in certain areas. including the prime, 300, and infinity pad.
plus you have Google as the big brother looking over this. the nexus 7 is Google's baby. they will make sure its in good hands. I will be ordering one tomorrow morning. too good of a deal, based on specs and performance, to pass up.
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Besides the Asus fanboy rhetoric from demandarin, it looks like a great tab and I can't fault Asus too much since they are one of the few companies willing to stand behind their tablets with active members in these forms and frequent updates( even though the updates have not fixed all of the issues/ made certain things worse). They are trying- and I can't help but feel that it actually does boil down to the asus/ google/nvidia relationship.
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pre-ordered mine
for $199 it's going to be epic. Granted, I'm mad it doesn't have an SD slot, but that doesn't matter at that price point. I know the tegra 3 can handle what I want, what is essentially a content viewer.
I'm going to wait before I buy it & see what real world customers have to say about it not tech sites.....fool me twice......
Also I read the 8gb has only like 5gb of free space!
http://www.landofdroid.com/2012/uh-oh-googles-8gb-nexus-7-is-actually-5-92gb/
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I'm going to wait before I buy it & see what real world customers have to say about it not tech sites.....fool me twice......
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This about sums it up for me.. I refuse to buy another ASUS product outright after my 201 but if there's no major hardware faults after launch and I can find one cheap on CL or something then might give it a shot
I was very excited but that all came to an end with the small disk space and no sd slot. Great a WiFi only device and DEPENDS on the internet for streaming media...
So I can use it in my home or drain my phone battery with the WiFi hotspot.
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I am planing on pre-ordering once I can make sure I will have the funds to do so.
Considering I was planning on getting a kindle fire soon going after the nexus 7 seemed more logical. As long I as I have 16gb of space I don't think I will really fill it. With all the cloud storage and if the OTG cable will work I won't have any complaints.
Please use the Nexus 7 fora for talking about it.
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407422,00.asp
Can't say I'm surprised given our situation. Welcome to the club, nexus 7 owners! I bet Gary is going to need a vacation soon.
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407422,00.asp
Can't say I'm surprised given our situation. Welcome to the club, nexus 7 owners! I bet Gary is going to need a vacation soon.
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Good grief . Has there ever been a perfect launch for any device of this type (Apple included)????? Mine is working great and I am happy with my purchase.
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What a nice subset of the TF201's problems...
ASUS, you are dead to me.
Most people in my poll on here seem happy with theirs...
I feel bad for those that ended up with a prob but mine is flawless compared to my Prime..
The only problem that I see is a shortage in most stores and the corresponding rise in price. So this so-called problems is not the reason buyers don't have it yet.
Sure. In a few weeks Gary will report how the defect rate ia less than 1% –just like the Prime was. Holy crap, if ANYONE didn't see THIS ONE coming, they must have been in a coma the last 6 months. Infinity will be slightly better, only because of price, but one thing is obvious. ASUS TABLETS ARE CRAP. I jus cannot imagine how Google bought into them. Must have spoke with Gary and Demandarin, lol!
Edit. Oh, and I speak from experience, exchanged 4 TF101s, 2 TF201s, and my Prime has been more bs than any single device I have ever owned. Now we get to hear from all the "my Nexus 7 works perfectly!" folks. Well, bully for you. Asus should get out of the tablet biz and do us all a favor. A year ago, I was singing their praises too. Wait a while. It gets really interesting a couple of months into production, when they start acting like a) they care and b) they are competent. Trust me they do not and are not.
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Don't get it twisted dude, Manufacturing problems and hardware issues because of design are two different things. I own a Prime with crap wifi/BT, so I know.
It's a $200 tablet, what did people expect? Asus can't even QC their $500 tablets correctly. It is a shame when the tablet that costs half performs better
My nexus 7 works perfectly and no defects. Just unlocked and rooted it also.
With that said, this thread has nothing to do with prime. Only another thread full of rants.
You know what time it is anyhow. Thread closing time
It's disingenuous to say this thread has nothing to do with the Prime. This is Asus' highest profile device since the Prime, and it's only natural for us Prime owners to wonder if they've gotten their act together at all. It doesn't look like they have.
I kind of wish it would have been Acer and not Asus, just with a bigger battery. Makes me sad that Acer has not really got any good props for making quality tabs.
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none of these problems appear to be issues with the Nexus 7's design
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Unlike the Primes aluminum back.
I had the exact same issue with the screen creaking and separating from the main body and had it sent back for a DOA assessment from JB Hi-Fi. Asus tried to repair it and after a month I still have absolutely no idea where the hell it is.
I don't see how ASUS gained such a reputation of having great quality in the first place.
The TF201 was my first ASUS purchase, but I recall in the past when they made only motherboards, they weren't the best. There was three other Taiwanese manufactures that were and still are superior in my books. Gigabyte, MSI and TYAN.
As far a notebooks go, SONY and HP was always the cutting edge in this arena for personal users while Dell and IBM/Lenovo for businesses.
and as far as home electronic devices go, SAMSUNG overtook SONY in this arena.
So how did ASUS get plucked out of the list of manufacturers. In my opinion Google should stuck with SAMSUNG in the Nexus 7 tablet.
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So how did ASUS get plucked out of the list of manufacturers. In my opinion Google should stuck with SAMSUNG in the Nexus 7 tablet.
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That's simple. Asus was the only manufacturer able to make the tablet at such a low price point. You know, because eliminating all forms of quality control saves a lot of money.
This is the TF201 forum, please use the Nexus 7 forum for this kind of threads.
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