hello was wondering is the Motorola Droid Razr and UK version Motorola Razr The same phone ?
Yes but different radios, DROID is cdma, UK is gsm
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
Hardwarewise, they're exactly the same.
and doesn't the GSM version have an unlocked bootloader?
XT910 is the code for RAZR GSM international
And XT912 is the code for RAZR GSM/CDMA
CMIIW
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
hidden_hunter said:
and doesn't the GSM version have an unlocked bootloader?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe it does from what I have heard.
ddemlong said:
I believe it does from what I have heard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
though there isn't really much of a mod scene (yet?)
hidden_hunter said:
though there isn't really much of a mod scene (yet?)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even though I feel the Razr is a superior phone I dont think there will ever be a dev scene even like for the Bionic. If there isnt one yet there most likely wont be unfortunately. The Razr was over shadowed by the release of the GN and with a locked bootloader why invest your time into it? The dev's have pretty much gone from the bionic too. The only reason it was getting some love was because of timing and the GN wasn't out yet.
I think the GSM version might get a little bit due to its bootloader being unlocked but even now there doesn't seem much. Shoot compare it to the GN a week after release and it has a dozen or so ROMs already.
Droid is a name registered with Verizon ... notice that all phones named Droid are only on Verizon and no other network ...
As for Dev scene... give it time .... amazon thanksgiving sale helped the Droid RAZR base to grow huge ... and within month time came nexus with icecream sandwich which devs were eager to get hands on.... I think RAZR will get support at least after it receives ics
hidden_hunter said:
and doesn't the GSM version have an unlocked bootloader?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Motorola is saying they're selling bananas, but when you buy their bananas, you'll find that they're pears.
No, it isn't unlocked and it isn't unlockable. Still not.
val5 said:
XT910 is the code for RAZR GSM international
And XT912 is the code for RAZR GSM/CDMA
CMIIW
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So the Razr I have in the US will not work overseas? That is my understanding but seeing GSM with the XT912 confuses me. Thanks.
SallyC said:
So the Razr I have in the US will not work overseas? That is my understanding but seeing GSM with the XT912 confuses me. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct. US Phones use CDMA radios and other countries use the GSM. I don't think there is a "world" LTE phone yet.
I know I just saw a posting earlier this week about how Europe finally got the HSPA+21 and will get the 42 later. It talked about how they were testing LTE in the UK but were talking about a period of 3-5 years before it even starts to roll out. Maybe when the UK gets LTE they will be compatible.
The US has the best radios even tho we don't always get the best phones.
SallyC said:
So the Razr I have in the US will not work overseas? That is my understanding but seeing GSM with the XT912 confuses me. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nopes it wont work...
912 is for CDMA/Verizon/Locked bootloader
910 is for GSM/Other countries/Unlocked bootloader
But if past releases pattern is true Droid 4 will be a world phone just like droid 3 and 2
Can a gsm /system/app dump be used on the cmda razor to restore the stock /system/app or do you have to have a /system/app dump from a cdma razr?
USA is neither the first nor only country with LTE.
In Fact, the world's first commercial LTE network started in Sweden in December 2009 and now they're already testing the next generation, LTE advanced with speeds up to 954mbit/sec.:
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/06/2...dvanced-sweden-hits-954-mbps-download-speeds/
Also in Germany LTE is already available in most major cities and I guess it's also available in some other European countries.
ddemlong said:
Correct. US Phones use CDMA radios and other countries use the GSM. I don't think there is a "world" LTE phone yet.
I know I just saw a posting earlier this week about how Europe finally got the HSPA+21 and will get the 42 later. It talked about how they were testing LTE in the UK but were talking about a period of 3-5 years before it even starts to roll out. Maybe when the UK gets LTE they will be compatible.
The US has the best radios even tho we don't always get the best phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Related
Hey people!!
Just wanted to know if I can be lucky and run this baby in India on a GSM network?
If so, how and what do I need?
Someone is coming from USA...but what about the contract with Verizon??
And performance wise which is better X1, X2 RAZR or Bionic??
Thanx!
You can't run this phone on a GSM network, it is a CDMA phone.
Contracts from foreign countries are something you need not worry about.
I suggest the Droid 2 Global for use on a GSM network. My dad has one and it's great.
I think the only one of those that is a "world phone" is the Droid RAZR. All the others are CDMA (and LTE in the case of the Bionic which does take a SIM card but only for LTE). Droid RAZR seems to be GSM compatible, and has the same specs as the Bionic, as well as an improved screen.
ralphwiggum1 said:
I think the only one of those that is a "world phone" is the Droid RAZR. All the others are CDMA (and LTE in the case of the Bionic which does take a SIM card but only for LTE). Droid RAZR seems to be GSM compatible, and has the same specs as the Bionic, as well as an improved screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
donlad said:
You can't run this phone on a GSM network, it is a CDMA phone.
Contracts from foreign countries are something you need not worry about.
I suggest the Droid 2 Global for use on a GSM network. My dad has one and it's great.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
RAZR is a good option...but my question is how do I run it here as it will be Verzion locked?
Also, if i unlock it, will I get official updates to next Android OS?
circleofomega said:
RAZR is a good option...but my question is how do I run it here as it will be Verzion locked?
Also, if i unlock it, will I get official updates to next Android OS?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Call up Verizon and say you'll be out of the country and need it unlocked. And unlocked wont do anything to updates, if you root it probably will though
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Get a Droid 3. Problem solved
Sent from my DROID X2 using XDA App
stumpyz9 said:
Call up Verizon and say you'll be out of the country and need it unlocked. And unlocked wont do anything to updates, if you root it probably will though
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and wont they charge me for it and also why would Verizon just give me one like that? Some under the table negotiations?
Also, performance wise, which is better?
RAZR or Droid X2 pr Bionic?
I dont like Droid 3 sorry..
circleofomega said:
and wont they charge me for it and also why would Verizon just give me one like that? Some under the table negotiations?
Also, performance wise, which is better?
RAZR or Droid X2 pr Bionic?
I dont like Droid 3 sorry..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think there's fees, just one of the perks of having a world phone, and I would say either bionic or raze, x2 only has half the ram.
Or why not an attic, basically same as bionic but gsm
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
stumpyz9 said:
I don't think there's fees, just one of the perks of having a world phone, and I would say either bionic or raze, x2 only has half the ram.
Or why not an attic, basically same as bionic but gsm
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He's right. Go with an already GSM phone if you're going to use on GSM. Motorola Atrix is Tegra 2 like Droid X2 but with more RAM, and Atrix 2 is TI OMAP4 like D3, Bionic, and RAZR, and has an improved screen over DX2, D3, and Bionic.
ralphwiggum1 said:
He's right. Go with an already GSM phone if you're going to use on GSM. Motorola Atrix is Tegra 2 like Droid X2 but with more RAM, and Atrix 2 is TI OMAP4 like D3, Bionic, and RAZR, and has an improved screen over DX2, D3, and Bionic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
also the og atrix has an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Lastly, the Razr isn't even available yet, lol. You are going to have an issue with a phone that doesn't exist, at least not physically in your hands.
AtLemacks said:
Lastly, the Razr isn't even available yet, lol. You are going to have an issue with a phone that doesn't exist, at least not physically in your hands.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I lol'd. Srsly I don't think the RAZR Is even globabl capable, if you want a strong phone that's global I'd say Atrix or D3. Bionic and Razr prety much the same, 200 mhz difference which I'm sure is a result of the Bionic being underclocked. Im sure that'll be fixed soon since the source code has been released. Razr does have super amoled but it also is pentile, same w/ the Nexus Prime. Built in Battery in the Razr for me no bueno, and no SD card on the Nexus = da fuq.
They announced there will be European and possibly Asian versions, but it could be like what they did for the Droid 1, made 2 different phones that looked the same with different antenna's, Droid and Milestone. Either way, launch is what 2-3 weeks away, lol.
AtLemacks said:
They announced there will be European and possibly Asian versions, but it could be like what they did for the Droid 1, made 2 different phones that looked the same with different antenna's, Droid and Milestone. Either way, launch is what 2-3 weeks away, lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanx everyone...just one more question since this member mentioned it...will thee be ANY sort of difference in the hardware./software jn the Asian versions? Ofwoyherthe razor or bionic??
Thanx...i guess will have to go back to the age old game of waiting and watching...
I don't think they have released that info yet. You might want to check with your carrier.
AtLemacks said:
I don't think they have released that info yet. You might want to check with your carrier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Carriers in India aren't that strong a player...but I will keep a check...also, the Droid X2 is cool, but CDMA...anyway to get that working outside the current network...? I mean it will be Verizon, but here it will be Reliance...so anyway to get that working here..?
I would say, tell your friend to call Verizon and ask to have it unlocked. Once he/she gets to India they will have to give the MEID/ESN numbers to Reliance. Then, will probably have to open new service with them and get a new number. Verizon uses a specific spectrum range for CDMA, thus why the phone doesn't work on Sprint's CDMA network. The phone may, or may not be compatible with Reliance CDMA, but I could be wrong.
AtLemacks said:
I would say, tell your friend to call Verizon and ask to have it unlocked. Once he/she gets to India they will have to give the MEID/ESN numbers to Reliance. Then, will probably have to open new service with them and get a new number. Verizon uses a specific spectrum range for CDMA, thus why the phone doesn't work on Sprint's CDMA network. The phone may, or may not be compatible with Reliance CDMA, but I could be wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanx! That helped me make my decision...Droid RAZR or Bionic. Mostly it will be RAZR.
In India, CDMA isn't as strong as GSM. Anyways...thanx everyone who replied. Every answer waw helpful. Just a question, more to myself than to U guys, why would Motorola make such a cool device wig CDMA technology and not GSM?
Anyways...
Verizon outweighs all GSM competitors in the US. They know the users typically who want the most bang for their buck android device want it on Verizon before with 3G CDMA and now 4G LTE and CDMA. Our GSM providers are horrible.
The Motorola Press Release says it all. Won't be long until we see this in other parts of the world (or some people hopefully successfully flashing it with English Stock ROMs). I was waiting for the MAXX conversion kit and was gonna get a Razr but this seems like a better option.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Press-Releases/Motorola-Mobility-Brings-Power-Packed-Motorola-RAZR-MAXX-XT910-to-China-3a43.aspx
Great news I have been waiting for this!
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
Moto are missing a trick here. They could do upgrades in their service centres for a fee to upgrade a razr with a maxx battery and casing for a fixed fee and make some extra profit from us...
goddamnit i shouldve known.
now i want one to replace my RAZR with weakass battery.
My luck just ran out. I have the normal Razr
Ask us any Android Related Question @FeraLabsDevs on Twitter
I'll just get the conversion kit at a later time
anybody found where to buy this yet? anyone found out the radios its goign to operate in?
Total ****s. I contacted them last month and they said they would not be releasing the Maxx for the UK/europe. I went ahead and bought the normal RAZR.
Is it really GSM version?
yeah does china operate same GSM radios as the rest of the world e.g. australia?
China uses both GSM and CDMA from what I can gather but LTE is in small scale trials apparently.
Someone can tell me if this Razr Maxx GSM (xt912) or Razr GSM (xt910) are True LTE (4G) compatible?
Thanks in advance
stormclaws said:
Someone can tell me if this Razr Maxx GSM (xt912) or Razr GSM (xt910) are True LTE (4G) compatible?
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
XT912 has got LTE 700 MHz Class 13 for Verizon support
XT910 device hasn't got it
DiRKiNg said:
XT912 has got LTE 700 MHz Class 13 for Verizon support
XT910 device hasn't got it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry if im wrong, but Verizon wasn't CDMA???
stormclaws said:
Sorry if im wrong, but Verizon wasn't CDMA???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not in the US but even I know Verizon has CDMA
Ask us any Android Related Questions @FeraLabsDevs on Twitter (Even If You've Bricked)
stormclaws said:
Someone can tell me if this Razr Maxx GSM (xt912) or Razr GSM (xt910) are True LTE (4G) compatible?
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Droid RAZR MAXX is XT916, not XT912. We don't have a model number for the Chinese release yet. Only the CDMA versions have LTE support thus far.
Given the poor track history of getting functional branded Chinese-market devices on the secondary market/the variety of wireless tech in use there, I highly doubt a GSM RAZR MAXX released in China will be of much use to many users outside of China. Not really something to celebrate just yet.
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
Doesn't seem to be available in white color, which is a huge letdown.
Motorola, put MAXX battery on your next flagship device as well.
onslaught86 said:
The Droid RAZR MAXX is XT916, not XT912. We don't have a model number for the Chinese release yet. Only the CDMA versions have LTE support thus far.
Given the poor track history of getting functional branded Chinese-market devices on the secondary market/the variety of wireless tech in use there, I highly doubt a GSM RAZR MAXX released in China will be of much use to many users outside of China. Not really something to celebrate just yet.
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank a lot for answering my question precisely.
I think its fake. But if it true im very exciting
Wysłane z mojego XT910 za pomocą Tapatalk
underface said:
I think its fake. But if it true im very exciting
Wysłane z mojego XT910 za pomocą Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The link from threadstarter goes to motorola.com so I think it's definantly not fake.
Tho they say it's gonna be released in China, not europe.
I have a buddy with a XT912 that he can't dump due to a bad ESN.
He is willing to give it to me, I have heard rumors that you can re-flash the XT912 with the 910 software to unlock the GSM part of the phone...
Will that allow it to work with AT&T?
The specs I have seen show the 912 has the radio built in, just locked.
Can you re-flash it for AT&T?
i would like to know as well. my gf has a droid razr.
At the moment is not posible
There is another post which can help and i also got the same problem
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
This post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619563
Lots of info but don't think anyone has it fully working on AT&T yet, I know I'm stuck with it seeing the sim but never connecting to network.
hondasr said:
At the moment is not posible
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pretty soon it will be. thanks to verizon.
good news guys. Verizon is gonna unlock the gSM bands on droid razr. xt912.
can't wait!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/verizon-purportedly-giving-droid-4-razr-and-rezound-global-de/
HI,
My Cousin is going to buy a droid Razr from Craigslist and send it to me here in india
I wanted to Know
1. He is going to buy a Droid Razr Verizon Lte phone will it work in india on GSM.
2. If not then any other Version that i should buy?
3. If yes then would i have to root it and then it would work.
I would really Appreciate if you could help me out.
Check out the frequency bands the Droid RAZR supports. Theoretically, it should work on CDMA networks in India. The LTE bands won't work (obviously) due to the lack of 4G LTE support in India. But Reliance and Tata Indicom CDMA networks should support the phone just fine.
Take Razr XT910 cuz it will support GSM as Droid by verizon is exclusive product for verizon network if u have to take their product then u need to break contract with them so to avoid complecations take XT910
cheekrox said:
Check out the frequency bands the Droid RAZR supports. Theoretically, it should work on CDMA networks in India. The LTE bands won't work (obviously) due to the lack of 4G LTE support in India. But Reliance and Tata Indicom CDMA networks should support the phone just fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I want to use it with a SIM in India. So no CDMa for me. So nutshell is i shoudl not buy the Verizon Lte Edition of the Phone I should go for the normal one.
manu44 said:
Well I want to use it with a SIM in India. So no CDMa for me. So nutshell is i shoudl not buy the Verizon Lte Edition of the Phone I should go for the normal one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep - if you want to use it with a gsm network, you have to buy a gsm razr.
manu44 said:
Well I want to use it with a SIM in India. So no CDMa for me. So nutshell is i shoudl not buy the Verizon Lte Edition of the Phone I should go for the normal one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, LTE is GSM-based. SO you should be able to. But yeah, the complications are a lot. Just get the XT910 then. Otherwise get it for CDMA, no issues with that. And don't worry about it being exclusive to Verizon, it can be unlocked locally.
cheekrox said:
Well, LTE is GSM-based. SO you should be able to. But yeah, the complications are a lot. Just get the XT910 then. Otherwise get it for CDMA, no issues with that. And don't worry about it being exclusive to Verizon, it can be unlocked locally.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well That is basically what i want to know. If i go for LTE verizon can i use it in India.Anybody who is using it.
The Reason for me stressing on LTE verizon is Because My Cousin has got it for me.
So If there is nothing i cant do it then ill ask him to sell it again.
- Anyone who is using LTE VErizon in India?
Sell it. XT912 does not work on GSM full stop.
onslaught86 said:
Sell it. XT912 does not work on GSM full stop.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks So I should buy the XT910 right.
manu44 said:
Thanks So I should buy the XT910 right.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you absolutely must have a RAZR, yes, you'll need to do just that.
I'd recommend buying a less awful phone full stop, though.
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
GSM support Verizone Droid Razr?
GSM capability of droid razr??
as per below link Razr support GSM networks.
droidmatters.com/news/verizon-confirms-global-gsm-roaming-coming-to-the-droid-razr-razr-maxx-htc-rezound-and-lg-spectrum/
does this conclude we can use it on GSM network like ATT or in India?
Just wondering but can it be done? afaik the two are identically hardware wise right? I got my mitts on a CDMA razr but gsm signal on it sucks big time and i've been trying to find ways of improving it.
would the bypassed bootloader be able to stop me from doing so? Would I get a hard brick?
The ICS release will make the Razr "global" (GSM+CDMA+LTE).
I'm on the .79 leak, with AOKP and mine is a global phone.
June 12th, last rumor I heard...
So you're telling me that my gsm Motorola RAZR XT910 will get lte possibility? What bands will this lte be running?
Motorola RAZR with Tapatalk
So does this mean that once ICS drops, I can get my razr on a sim only plan with another carrier? I was looking for a way to unlock it for that purpose... I'm done with Verizon's fees and taxes, but don't wanna pay retail for a new phone...
My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread, then it's just as Flyer...)!
http://android-gz.com
xodeus said:
So you're telling me that my gsm Motorola RAZR XT910 will get lte possibility? What bands will this lte be running?
Motorola RAZR with Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe he is referring to the xt912. Though I'm not sure if the 910 just has Ltd disabled or just doesn't have it.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
IP IHI II IL said:
So does this mean that once ICS drops, I can get my razr on a sim only plan with another carrier? I was looking for a way to unlock it for that purpose... I'm done with Verizon's fees and taxes, but don't wanna pay retail for a new phone...
My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread, then it's just as Flyer...)!
http://android-gz.com
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not with US gsm carriers though ....
keeb119 said:
I believe he is referring to the xt912. Though I'm not sure if the 910 just has Ltd disabled or just doesn't have it.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wanna know this too.
Enviado desde mi XT910 usando Tapatalk 2
I'm pretty sure the GSM razr doesn't have lte. If it did, it would only work for Verizon (my reasoning being that if the DROID RAZR has GSM, and the normal RAZR has lte, chances are they are built the same way with software tweaks) Of course.), none of this matters if the GSM RAZR doesn't have lte, which of probably doesn't.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
yeah I mean the XT912 or the Verizon edition razr.
I am running a ICS leak but the signal is really bad and on top of that I cannot add a vodafone APN, as such I do not get any roaming internet aside from Wifi I can find. I would try flashing the modem on my own phone but I have heard of stories of CDMA phones bricking when flashed with a GSM rom.
May I know the source that stated both RAZR GSM & RAZR CDMA are identical hardware-wise?
may be it can work.:thumbup:
Sent from my xt912 using miui v4 XDA(中国cn)
Fulvian said:
May I know the source that stated both RAZR GSM & RAZR CDMA are identical hardware-wise?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am assuming. Seems like a reasonable assumption though
They are not
Fulvian said:
May I know the source that stated both RAZR GSM & RAZR CDMA are identical hardware-wise?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never said they are identical. I said that if the global version had lte, chances were that they had the same hardware. However, this is not the case.
i had a cdma razar,i just try it also,then i got no signal in gsm with gsm radio
aachen79 said:
i had a cdma razar,i just try it also,then i got no signal in gsm with gsm radio
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Verizon has to activate the GSM feature
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX
were on on a ICS leak or did you install the GSM patch?
The patch. The patch people...get it and get done with it...it CAN happen...I am having one ...Awesome Stock ICS on RaZr...CDMA + patch = AWESOMENESS
AFAIK, there is the Droid Razr, and the Droid Razr Maxx. There is no hardware difference between a GSM or CDMA phone. If you have a Moto schematic diagram showing some other difference, then post it.
The only hardware difference the two devices above, is the Maxx has a bigger battery.
Everything else is software, and that changes with ICS.
Napoleon said 'To find if a thing is possible, try it.'
Wait for the ICS release and see if it works, or install the .79 leak and see if it works.
Giblet535 said:
AFAIK, there is the Droid Razr, and the Droid Razr Maxx. There is no hardware difference between a GSM or CDMA phone. If you have a Moto schematic diagram showing some other difference, then post it.
The only hardware difference the two devices above, is the Maxx has a bigger battery.
Everything else is software, and that changes with ICS.
Napoleon said 'To find if a thing is possible, try it.'
Wait for the ICS release and see if it works, or install the .79 leak and see if it works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What does that have to do with this? You are correct, but it doesn't have anything to do with this topic. We were talking about the difference between the CDMA and GSM RAZR.
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX
rockaholic112 said:
What does that have to do with this? You are correct, but it doesn't have anything to do with this topic. We were talking about the difference between the CDMA and GSM RAZR.
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess I used too many words. Some people can only glean SMS text. I'll try again:
SW different, K?