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Hello, I am the owner of one of these smartbooks made by Toshiba. This MID have same hardware configuration as Folio except the touchscreen. The software is Android 2.1. Can someone cook a ROM with Android 2.2 (or 2.3) with flash support for this device ? Also I need a driver for USB 3G modem ZTE MF110. Thank you
quick answer is no - it's not trivial. A few people have tried and given up. (but not spent much time on it I think).
Moved to general as not android development
Which advantages should 2.2 have? Flash?
I like the AC100 as it is, but if you want a real desktop OS and don't care about warranty (as you obviously do when you speek of a new image), I would try one of the many pages on putting Ubuntu on the device. As newbie, I am not allowed to set links, but "hacking the AC100" or "Ubuntu AC100" will get you many answers.
From my perspective, it's not about 2.2 only, but also to further tweak Android for the device as there are still some flaws on the AC100.
yep, i just tried to get ubuntu running on my folio 100, but touchscreen support is still broken.
i'm not much a fun of ubuntu, now trying to boot GNU/Debian Squeeze on it.
as a desktop alternative, ac100 is even a better platform for desktop linux distributions.
GNU/Debian armel now targets some NAS devices, but I believe arm notepads will become mainstream platforms in one or two years
Novy update pre toshiba AC100 2.2 Froyo 2.2.5.0029 je prave k dispozicii
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Novy update pre toshiba AC100 2.2 Froyo 2.2.5.0029 je prave k dispozicii
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I validate, some problems with flash, but works with youtube.
W8 for updates...
It seems they have similar issues on the netbook version in that the new update has a new bootloader which refuses to run the old kernel (or the ubuntu kernel).
Android Market Query?
Hi, I'm new to the forum and the AC100. I have ordered an AC100-10D. This my be a really stupid question but...
I understand that without mods the AC100 can't access Android Market. Could I download the apps onto my PC and then transfer to AC100? By this I mean are the Android Market apps special or is it that the AC100 just can't access this particular site.
Thanks
Waverley57
Probably yes....
@Waverley57 - so far this method does seem to work on our Tosh AC100-10U
A guy with an Android Market account provided a couple of random .APK app files that I transferred to an SD card - they installed OK. Not certain now which ones they were.
This does *not* guarantee that all files will do the same!
Much of the Tosh & Camangi Market stuff is for tiny portrait screens - which is why Google is unhappy about us using AM for our AC100s and Folio 100s. We end up installing and then removing a fair number of apps for this reason.
Official sources of Apps
Toshiba Market Place arrived with the (Tosh Service Centre) upgrade to Froyo (2.2), but it has borked itself twice - the first time it was fixed by:-
Backup-> Factory Data Reset-> Restore
I then had to create a new account on the market.
.... but the second time it borked in a new and interesting mode. Long story short, it won't log me in, or create a new account, so Toshiba are trying to help. Nice guys, one of them had even used an AC100.
<sigh>
Camangi Market is pretty sparse, but they do seem to be making more effort lately.
If you like logic games, Simon Tatham's Portable Puzzles are now on Toshiba Market Place, and work fine on our AC100s.
This blog post on More/Better Internal Storage (which refers to fitting SD mini-PCIe USB Adapters) was recently brought to my attention. It may be of some interest here.
something new on Toshiba AC100?
Am I missing something here? App is not compatible with some of your devices.
Htc Evo- check
Transformer Tablet- no check
I need to understand the developer side of this coin. I have been trying to persuade Jawbone to update their android app "Jawbone Companion" to support my tablet. I don't know, but I assume their would be a publisher option in Google Play to add or delete supported devices so that they cannot be installed on those from the Play store. For example, I had to go to the website to find the app because search shows no results on the tablet.
It's a bluetooth headset. It supports 2.1+edr. App supported on Android OS 4.0, OS 2.3 and select OS 2.2 phones. Transformer tf300 has bluetooth. It supports 3.0+edr. It has ICS and is certainly more capable than a 2.2 phone.
Sooo the only difference I see from this side is a bigger screen. I have emailed at least 3 app makers that I use frequently and they just keep saying it's not tablet supported. So do they just have to add devices to some file that cross checks with Google Play or is the code for my tablet so drastically different that they would have to write a whole new app for tablets?
A technical explanation link of the whole developer process regarding this would be nice.
Update to OP
I have found a method of downloading apk files in the Chrome browser with the APK Downloader extension. It only works with Chrome and I logged into my wife's account, did a quick search for my apps in question, then proceeded to download them to pc by making play think it was sending the apk to my wife's "supported" phone. Then I manually transferred the apks to my "unsupported" tablet where they are now running fine, no errors and no resolution problems.
I have emailed the developers of these apps and they have blown me off by saying that tablets in general are not supported, I emailed them all back telling them their apps were working fine and I didn't understand why they couldn't have allowed me to just download it the easy way.
So are they just being lazy? This just reinforces my reasoning that the phone and tablet are about the same and don't require any more coding than any other app that has problems on certain phones. Seems to me as long as the resolution is high enough and it allows auto rotation that any phone app should run on a tablet, and I don't see why they all keep telling me apps are not supported.
Until then I guess I'll just get my apps the way I described.
yap the apkdownloader would be the way i recomended to you =)
dunno why they dont support tablets
in some cases u dont have to understand them
feel lucky u find a way to make it work
Recently inherited a Nook Tablet 16GB with OS 1.4.3.
Did some searching and Phone Arena http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Barnes---Noble-NOOK-Tablet_id6548 lists it as Android (2.3).
Am not familiar with TI OMAP4 SoC.
Since Android is now at 6, I wonder what the latest OS can be used with it?
Appreciate comments and suggestions!
Thanks
Ken
Should add am wondering what is the latest Android OS I can use before the TI OMAP4 SoC becomes noticeably Slow.
Ken
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Should add am wondering what is the latest Android OS I can use before the TI OMAP4 SoC becomes noticeably Slow.
Ken
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Slow compared to what? The original 2.3? That I can't speak to since I never did much with my original (ebay) tablet but turn it on and flash CM 10.2.1 (after having it repartitioned at my local B&N store). I ran CM 10.2.1 for a little over a year and was fairly happy with its performance but I have to add that it has been my only tablet experience (if you don't count my much-modified Nook Simple Touch!) and the rest of my experience is with desktop and laptop Windows machines.
I think if you intend to use the tablet for memory and graphics intensive gaming, you may be disappointed. Not sure since I'm not a gamer. I use mine for reading news, watching movies and/or streams, listening to audiobooks, doing crossword puzzles, email, some limited internet browsing, running Kodi, etc. I'm not sure I'd call the tablet response "sprightly", but I'm comfortable with the performance. I don't need to grab a cup of tea while something starts up
I'm not sure about CM 11 (that's roughly KitKat). I skipped over that one to investigate CM 12.1 (Lollipop) for just about a week now and have noticed some strain on the hardware resources and a change in response. But it's still settling in and things change a little from day to day so I'll give it a few more weeks before I decide whether to return to 10.2.1 or try 11.
So....it's largely what you'd expect. This is a piece of hardware that was designed as mainly a reader with a few bones thrown in to tantalize people into thinking they were getting a little something extra--which they were. But that was in the days of Android 2.3 and it really wasn't designed to be a super-duper multimedia tablet. That said, there are a lot of people who still use them and spend a lot of time developing CM for them.
As a 2.3 device it's pretty limited (except as a reader, if you like the backlight) so I'd say give at least CM 10 a try and see what you think. Just keep in mind its hardware origins.
Hi nmyshkin,
1st thanks for your comments! Will try to explain in more detail.
I would like to use my Nook Tablet as a audio/video player (No games) so like to install VLC media player or similar.
"Slow compared to what?" To my experience installing newer Windows OSes on same hardware. Have had best results using apps like nLite or with WinXP using Hiren's MiniXP to reduce all the Win Bloatware!
Since you are much more experienced concerning the Nook Tablet do you have a blog concerning your OS upgrade experience? Also what Audio/Video Player App(s) do you use?
Ken
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Hi nmyshkin,
1st thanks for your comments! Will try to explain in more detail.
I would like to use my Nook Tablet as a audio/video player (No games) so like to install VLC media player or similar.
"Slow compared to what?" To my experience installing newer Windows OSes on same hardware. Have had best results using apps like nLite or with WinXP using Hiren's MiniXP to reduce all the Win Bloatware!
Since you are much more experienced concerning the Nook Tablet do you have a blog concerning your OS upgrade experience? Also what Audio/Video Player App(s) do you use?
Ken
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If you're interested in mainly audio/video then the NT should serve you well. I hear you about trying to put newer (read: hungrier) operating systems on older machines. The CM people have done a great job but every piece of hardware has its limits. For your purposes I would think that CM 10 would be fine, but you could certainly try 11 or (maybe) 12. The advantage to choosing a more up-to-date operating system is that more apps are available to you. The catch is that the PlayStore will often say an app is not compatible since it sees the device as a Nook Tablet and has no idea that you have upgraded the OS. So you sometimes have to be creative in obtaining apps and sideloading them. As for bloatware, the principal source is the GoogleApps! When I did my CM 10 flashing there was just the typical package but there are now mini, micro, nano, etc., versions which narrow down the list of GApps to bare essentials. I used the nano set on my CM 12.1 and don't miss anything.
I've attached a screenshot of my current Home running CM 12.1. I have a second screen which is just a few utilities (file manager, print, wi-fi transfer, etc.) but you can get an idea of what kind of stuff runs well on the tablet with a newer OS. I've not used VLC player on the NT but I imagine it would be fine. MX Player works well for me and it also serves as my music player. Since I grew up in an era when the album was king, I don't keep separate songs and use minimal tags. If you're a more tag-driven music listener then you'd want something else. CM 10 comes with a tag-friendly music player but if that didn't suit your needs, there are plenty of apps to try in the PlayStore.
Anything that MX Player can't handle (haven't found it yet) Kodi would be able to deal with. I guess you could use Kodi exclusively as a media player but the screen interface is a little trying for a small screen.
I'm "experienced" only to the extent that I've had a lot of help with problems In my view you can't do better than the instructions given by user digixmax. His installation instructions for CM 10 are here. For CM 11 or 12 they are here. If you read through both threads you'll find plenty of panic-stricken posts by yours truly
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The catch is that the PlayStore will often say an app is not compatible since it sees the device as a Nook Tablet and has no idea that you have upgraded the OS. So you sometimes have to be creative in obtaining apps and sideloading them.
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FWIW I usually can download and install from an alternate source such as 1MobileMarket (http://market.1mobile.com) or Amazon appstore the very same app that Google Playstore deem incompatible with my Nook.
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FWIW I usually can download and install from an alternate source such as 1MobileMarket (http://market.1mobile.com) or Amazon appstore the very same app that Google Playstore deem incompatible with my Nook.
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Yes, or you can try here: http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/
Most common apps can be downloaded to your PC from there and then side loaded. Supposedly they will also fetch less common ones if you ask.
nmyshkin,
Thanks again for your detailed comments!
Also while I am new to Nook Tablet have been using Android cell phones for a while. My 1st Android phone was a Kyocera Hydro http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Kyocera-Hydro_id7096
Wanted to root it but after reading "!!WARNING!! there is currently no working recovery, beware of the changes you make to your phone, modify at your own risk" (am a believer in Murphies Law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law) decided not to take the chance.
Recently I got an and hoped to root it but found "Alcatel A460G Rooting Trouble - a lost cause" http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/alcatel-a460g-rooting-trouble-pointers-t3261024
so am waiting for someone to do this first.
While I have never Rooted an Android Device did learn early to side load, usually using http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/
Have recently found mention of another Android app download site APKPure https://apkpure.com/ but do Not know how trustworthy it is?
The only thing I know about "CyanogenMod" is what I read at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod
Since my Nook Tablet is still original will volunteer to use any test apps to determine its speed.
Also since it does not have a Camera do not understand the need to go above KitKat (4.4). If there is some other reason would be interested.
"When I did my CM 10 flashing there was just the typical package but there are now mini, micro, nano, etc., versions which narrow down the list of GApps to bare essentials. I used the nano set on my CM 12.1 and don't miss anything." Nano is for me! What about Pico? Also found Pico(Uni)?
Where do you normally download them? Is it http://www.androidrootz.com/2015/03/download-android-44x-kitkat-pa-gapps.html
Question: What do you gain by using CyanogenMod 12.1, based on Android 5.1?
Ken
Hi digixmax,
"I usually can download and install from an alternate source such as 1MobileMarket (http://market.1mobile.com) or Amazon appstore the very same app that Google Playstore deem incompatible with my Nook."
Thanks for the tip!
Do you know of any posts concerning the reliability of alternate sources?
Ken
KenithO said:
nmyshkin,
Thanks again for your detailed comments!
Also while I am new to Nook Tablet have been using Android cell phones for a while. My 1st Android phone was a Kyocera Hydro http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Kyocera-Hydro_id7096
Wanted to root it but after reading "!!WARNING!! there is currently no working recovery, beware of the changes you make to your phone, modify at your own risk" (am a believer in Murphies Law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law) decided not to take the chance.
Recently I got an and hoped to root it but found "Alcatel A460G Rooting Trouble - a lost cause" http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/alcatel-a460g-rooting-trouble-pointers-t3261024
so am waiting for someone to do this first.
While I have never Rooted an Android Device did learn early to side load, usually using http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/
Have recently found mention of another Android app download site APKPure https://apkpure.com/ but do Not know how trustworthy it is?
The only thing I know about "CyanogenMod" is what I read at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod
Since my Nook Tablet is still original will volunteer to use any test apps to determine its speed.
Also since it does not have a Camera do not understand the need to go above KitKat (4.4). If there is some other reason would be interested.
"When I did my CM 10 flashing there was just the typical package but there are now mini, micro, nano, etc., versions which narrow down the list of GApps to bare essentials. I used the nano set on my CM 12.1 and don't miss anything." Nano is for me! What about Pico? Also found Pico(Uni)?
Where do you normally download them? Is it http://www.androidrootz.com/2015/03/download-android-44x-kitkat-pa-gapps.html
Question: What do you gain by using CyanogenMod 12.1, based on Android 5.1?
Ken
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Yes, it's best to do some homework on a device before purchase if you plan to root it or install alternate ROMS.
Sources for the various GApps packages can be found in the instruction thread I referred you to earlier.
Even CM 10 includes camera and Bluetooth fluff on the NT-- not functional, of course. Theoretically running a more up-to-date OS extends the useful life of the device. App development eventually leaves older devices in the dust, although not completely. I still have a generous complement of apps on my NST and that runs Eclair!
Anyway, the chief advantage of an OS like CM is that it is fluid, with people working to improve and enhance. Also, it overcomes some of the limitations imposed by B&N when they designed their "front end".
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Info on different package types:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/reborn-gapps-5-t3074660
Where do you normally download them?
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http://opengapps.org/#
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Do you know of any posts concerning the reliability of alternate sources?
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Not off-hand.
digixmax,
Thanks for the links! Somehow I thought the various builds were CyanogenMod and searched for "CyanogenMod Pico" but found nothing.
Looked over "Info on different package types" http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...pps-5-t3074660 and am interested in PICO MODULAR PACKAGE ANDROID 5.1 DOWNLOAD LINKS (~43MB).
Question: Is a Pico Modular package available for Android 4.4.4 KitKat? Am guessing No.
To restate I would like to use my Nook Tablet 16 Only as a Multimedia Player and for reading DOCs and PDFs.
Since I only side load apps is it possible to eliminate Google Play Store, Google Calendar Sync, and the following Play Store application and leave only the core Google system base?
[GAPPS][DAILY] Open GApps for Android 5.1,5.0,4.4; arm,arm64,x86,x86_64
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3098071
[GAPPS][DAILY] Open GApps for Android 5.1,5.0,4.4; arm,arm64,x86,x86_64
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Am trying to do my homework so have been searching for early articles about the Nook Tablet.
Found "How To Sideload (Almost) Any Android App On The Nook Tablet" by K. T. Bradford http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/11/16/how-to-sideload-android-apps-nook-tablet/
Am wondering if this Nook originally had OS 1.4.0? Does anyone know how to find out? If yes is there an easy way to go back to it? That way I would get a baseline. If no I hope someone has found a workaround!
The 1st app I would like to install is a File Manager and would appreciate any recommendations.
Since OS 1.4.3 is listed as Android 2.3 checked Google Store for FMs that will run on this or older and found X-plore File Manager 3.78 (2.3), File Manager (File transfer) by Cheetah Mobile Tools (Varies with device?),
SD File Manager 1.0.9 by MobilDev (2.3), File Manager by 1.1 by IT STARS (2.3), File Manager 1.31 by xFrame Labs Tools (2.3)
Hi champ1919,
Thanks for the link! I have a lot of catching up to do concerning Open GApps!
Liked DL page http://opengapps.org/ for giving a quick overview of all the options!
Saw there is an X86 ver for 4.4 to 6.0 Nano. Am wondering if I can install these on a std 32bit PC?
Have been searching and found "Advanced Features and Options", "Removal of Stock applications", and "Universal Application Removals"
https://github.com/opengapps/opengapps/wiki/Advanced-Features-and-Options These give you a lot of options!
Any good tutorials?
OK guys, I'm updating a 16GB Nook tablet, it has 1.4.3.
From what I've pieced together, I need to create a bootable TWRP sdcard and flash the root file then flash the TWRP 3.0.0-0(the acclaim works for the old Nook?) Then flash CM12 or CM13?
I'm starting from scratch and these guides are rather old so I'm trying to make sure I use the most up to date recovery and ROM available but with everything spread through different guides its a little confusing to decide which steps and files I need and which ones I don't considering I'm trying to go from stock to TWRP and CM12/CM13 in as few steps as possible.
Droidriven said:
OK guys, I'm updating a 16GB Nook tablet, it has 1.4.3.
From what I've pieced together, I need to create a bootable TWRP sdcard and flash the root file then flash the TWRP 3.0.0-0(the acclaim works for the old Nook?) Then flash CM12 or CM13?
I'm starting from scratch and these guides are rather old so I'm trying to make sure I use the most up to date recovery and ROM available but with everything spread through different guides its a little confusing to decide which steps and files I need and which ones I don't considering I'm trying to go from stock to TWRP and CM12/CM13 in as few steps as possible.
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You can look at this thread for combinations of files that worked. I'm in there later in the mix and that's how I ended up with CM 12.1.
Looking at the SD card I prepared I can see everything I used except for the TWRP version because it was renamed. At this point I would just use one of the versions mentioned in the thread I just referenced for someone who succeeded at 12.1 (or if you want 13.0, there is a separate thread for that). Just know that TWRP gives error messages during the preparation process (at least my version did--mentioned in the thread) and these can be ignored.
The rest of the files I used with success:
cm-12.1-20151117-SNAPSHOT-YOG7DAO1K6-acclaim.zip
flashable_CWM_6.0.4.8_chrmhoffmann.zip
open_gapps-arm-5.1-nano-20160109.zip
FWIW, the file size on the TWRP version I used shows as 7516 KB.
Hello Ken,
All CMs are somewhat slower that stock Android from BN. You will also loose the proper behavior of tablet when you connect cable to charger - stock OS wakes tablet from sleep when tablet gets connected to charger, CM does not, so you will have to wake it up first, otherwise tablet will not charge. Then, under every CM build RAM (under 'About Tablet') is stated 672 Mb, but under stock OS RAM is 1024Mb. Don't know is B&N trick us or not.
Next, if tablet left asleep for some prolonged period its time/date gets frozen, so when you wake it up it will show some wrong time/date and it does not auto-update on wake up, so you will have to manually update it by going to proper menu in Settings.
Tablet definitely lags compared to stock (in my opinion), especially when apps upgrade themselves and/or you turn on the WiFi - it's total hell. Also, apps like FB can take forever to install.
I tried CM12.1 but decided to get back to CM10.2.1. I also use alternative launcher, cause native one works in landscape mode and nothing made it to run in portrait.
Btw, in newer CMs you will loose access to some of the internal storage and to recover it - you will have to repartition your tablet.
Hope my info helps a bit.
PepeladZ said:
Hello Ken,
All CMs are somewhat slower that stock Android from BN. You will also loose the proper behavior of tablet when you connect cable to charger - stock OS wakes tablet from sleep when tablet gets connected to charger, CM does not, so you will have to wake it up first, otherwise tablet will not charge. Then, under every CM build RAM (under 'About Tablet') is stated 672 Mb, but under stock OS RAM is 1024Mb. Don't know is B&N trick us or not.
Next, if tablet left asleep for some prolonged period its time/date gets frozen, so when you wake it up it will show some wrong time/date and it does not auto-update on wake up, so you will have to manually update it by going to proper menu in Settings.
Tablet definitely lags compared to stock (in my opinion), especially when apps upgrade themselves and/or you turn on the WiFi - it's total hell. Also, apps like FB can take forever to install.
I tried CM12.1 but decided to get back to CM10.2.1. I also use alternative launcher, cause native one works in landscape mode and nothing made it to run in portrait.
Btw, in newer CMs you will loose access to some of the internal storage and to recover it - you will have to repartition your tablet.
Hope my info helps a bit.
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This further reinforces my feeling that the CM flashings are somewhat idiosyncratic (at least on the Nook Tablet). I've run both 10.2.1 and 12.1 (current) on my tablet and never saw the clock update issue described. In 12.1 the AM/PM indicator had update issues, but I solved that by disabling the cLock widget and installing Chronus from the PlayStore.
Sluggish is as sluggish does, I guess. Running CM 12.1 is no more sluggish than my cheap KitKat LG smartphone I use as an mp3 player. I have to agree that sometimes the tablet just has a bad time of things. This happened a lot after my initial 12.1 installation and there were many odd things that needed fixing. I just kept at it until it is finally running as well as 10.2.1---even better since it now boots reliably every time, whereas with 10.2.1 there were many times when I would boot to a black (backlit) screen. So now I shut it down every night and boot up the next morning without any problem.
The moral seems to be that you just need to try. Keep a backup of the stock system in case you have "buyer's remorse". Don't give up right away. Reflash if things are just a mess, but if only a few things are wonky, work with the tablet for a week or so. It seems to get better after each reboot. Decide for yourself whether the reported sluggishness of the tablet is something that you notice for the apps you are using. A lot of it is about expectations.
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I've run both 10.2.1 and 12.1 (current) on my tablet and never saw the clock update issue described. In 12.1 the AM/PM indicator had update issues, but I solved that by disabling the cLock widget and installing Chronus from the PlayStore.
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The thing is that I tried one of the latest 12.1 with the same results. I don't think the clock problem comes from cLock widget but is related to deep sleep mode or something like that.
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This happened a lot after my initial 12.1 installation and there were many odd things that needed fixing. I just kept at it until it is finally running as well as 10.2.1---even better since it now boots reliably every time, whereas with 10.2.1 there were many times when I would boot to a black (backlit) screen.
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Well, I switched to CM since 10.x and followed along till 13.x came out. So I was on 12.1 for quite some time and tried fresh builds quite frequently, doing 'full reset' install. Btw, I've never had unreliable boots.
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So now I shut it down every night and boot up the next morning without any problem.
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Yes, turning it off is the only way to keep clock right.
Hi just new to the forum.
I have a archos 101 gen8 16gb it is about 5years old and has been in a cupboard for a couple of years it is running on the original software, I tried last night to put arctools on it via appslib but its coming up with a server error.
What I want to do if its possible is load kodi onto it for my daughter I am not really fussed about using it for anything else as have a newer tablet now.
Can someone advise will this be possible and if so tell me how.
Thanks in advance, G
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Hi just new to the forum.
I have a archos 101 gen8 16gb it is about 5years old and has been in a cupboard for a couple of years it is running on the original software, I tried last night to put arctools on it via appslib but its coming up with a server error.
What I want to do if its possible is load kodi onto it for my daughter I am not really fussed about using it for anything else as have a newer tablet now.
Can someone advise will this be possible and if so tell me how.
Thanks in advance, G
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Well I'm late but what do you actually want to achieve with arctools, if you want to install play store then that doesn't seem to be possible anymore as when you login you get a mail with a report that a unsecure device (to today's standards) tried to login and wasn't allowed so the market can't even properly update to play store thus not allowing you to login. (which is pretty much a dumb fail loop)
Also I do not think kodi can run on 2.2, I think the old xbmc builds yes but I am pretty sure kodi has a 2.3 or 4.0 minimum version so you would still need to install either openaos gingerbread or cyanobiz.
On the other hand android 2.3 is also in the same boat with the market place but the good news is that you can just download the apk from the kodi website and sideload it (and IIRC kodi has an auto-update feature built in so you don't even need play store to update it but it will still be done manually).
On the other hand even if kodi would work on 2.2 I would strongly advise flashing SDE and the custom root kernel as kodi has many root only features that make it behave so much better than on a non-rooted device (on some devices without root some of the core features are in fact unavailable) also this would make it possible to overclock using the milestone overclock app which gives a huge boost to overall performance.
Hope this helps you out and feel free to ask any more questions.
EDIT: Seems like newer versions of kodi need android 4.2+ but I think you should be able to use 14.2 or 15 on 4.0+ (cyanobiz).
Hello, everyone!
So as we all know, any developments to do with the Yoga Book seem to be very slow.
Considering a decent number of us have experimented with the Yoga Book, I thought it'd be a good idea to make a centralised place for methods that have worked for people, so we can all have a go and hopefully obtain similar results.
So the idea would hopefully end up being something along the lines of my Megathread (which is now in General).
I guess this is where I get the ball rolling...
Most Promising Leads for Installing Android (1/12/17)
I have tried to install Bliss OS, but with not much luck. Once you get passed the GRUB screen it says there was an emergency error of some kind and reboots the device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/x86-bliss-x86-pc-s-t3534657
I found that his updated installer (v25.0004) doesn't work at all, but the latest version from the original developer worked fine, linked below:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/winapp-android-x86-installer-uefi-t3222483
I followed the following methods, all which resulted in a failed attempt, but the one with the most success was the first one:
- Easy install for Bliss-x86 UEFI/ESP
- For Bliss-x86 USB based installs
- Custom install for Bliss-x86 UEFI/ESP
My next attempt will be with Phoenix OS.
OLD INFO (as of 1/12/17)
Edit: I managed to replicate my situation twice. So I now have a method. Will post more info soon.
Okay... so if you want to get into Remix OS (knowing it's only temporary), here's how to replicate what I did. But make sure you have the following tools:
- USB keyboard & microUSB to USB adaptor (for the keyboard)
- Remix OS (I'm using the 64-bit version)
- A bit of time
What I did:
- Install Remix OS (doesn't matter what size you choose; 8, 16 or 32) on your C: Drive (main Local Disk) with the bundled installer
- Reboot when it finishes (via the dialog box, don't reboot any other way... it won't work properly)
- Give it about 10-15 minutes on the first boot. It'll be "stuck" at this Android-looking thing (mine's all glitched up and stuff)
- When it's done it'll show a black screen, and the Pencil icon to switch the Halo Keyboard on/off will stop turning on&off, it'll instead just stay on 100% of the time
- Reboot again, again choosing to boot into Remix OS
- As soon as you choose Remix OS, you NEED to hold the escape (ESC) key!!! If you don't do this, you'll have to start from scratch
- If you did it right, it'll come up with a couple lines of code, and then after a couple second it'll say "ANDROID" underneath the code, and everything will load up
- Everything should be in portrait-mode, but you should have no graphical glitches now, and should see the setup screen
- The touch-screen still shouldn't work here, you need to use the keyboard to navigate through the setup. If the Wi-Fi bit isn't connecting properly, do that later (just skip that step, up the top right). I left Google Play Services enabled, it doesn't matter, it won't ask for your information unless you open a Google App.
- When you finish the installation, everything should work (except the Halo Keyboard of course)
- To make Remix OS take up the whole screen instead of just the middle... go to the Settings App -> Remix OS Settings (whatever the top one is) -> Always show landscape thingo, toggling this off will make it use the whole screen instead of that little square in the middle.
This is far as I've gotten. I've tried getting USB Debugging to work, but it doesn't want to work. Bluetooth doesn't work for me, nor does changing the brightness. I wouldn't lock the tablet either, sometimes that doesn't work. Also don't try use the Google Play Store, because when you finish entering your information, it'll likely crash and you'll have to start over again. Rebooting will reset everything.
OLD INFO (as of 30/03/17)
I've had some random luck (as told in my recent post, I'll quote it here) with Remix OS.
I had a minor breakthrough last night. I don't know how I managed it though.
So Remix OS has an installer application you can run from within Windows. I used that, then rebooted into Remix OS. The first boot was met with just lots of graphical errors, but when I rebooted again into Remix OS, it booted perfectly. Android was running smoothly, everything worked (the touch screen, Wi-Fi, etc. - but not the Halo Keyboard). However, when I rebooted again, it stopped working. I was not able to successfully replicate that again - even with many re-installations of Remix OS.
I'll continue to mess with it, but if anyone has Windows and wants to attempt getting Android on it, this may be a viable method they can try. But of course, it's not perfect so don't do anything you don't know how to do just yet.
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Somehow I managed to get it working, but only temporarily.
If I'm able to replicate this situation again, I may be able to install the Stock ROM alongside Windows 10. However, I don't have all the time in the world, so this may take a long while.
General Yoga Book Information:
To my knowledge, there are two versions of the Yoga Book, each with two sub-versions for the OS:
1.) YB1-X9aF - this is the Wi-Fi version
2.) YB1-X9aL - this is the LTE/4G version
Where the "a" between the 9 and the F/L is either a zero or a one, depending on the installed OS (Android: 0, Windows 10: 1)
The SIM card is a Nano-SIM with 3G capability.
Other than that, all Yoga Book devices share the following specifications:
- 10.1 inch IPS display, of resolution 1920x1200
- Intel Atom x5-Z8550 processor, which:
----+ Has an architecture of x86_64 (ie. 64-bit)
----+ Core base clock of 1.44 gigahertz
----+ Core boost clock of 2.4 gigahertz
----+ 4 cores and 4 threads
- Battery capacity of 8500 milliampere hours
- On-board storage of 64 gigabytes of solid-state storage (SSD)
- 4 gigabytes of random-access memory (RAM)
- A microSD card slot capable of up to 128 gigabytes of storage
- Two camera's, one above the display and one on the keyboard
- Wi-Fi (802.11 ac) and Bluetooth (v4)
- 3.5 millimetre headphone jack
- Micro-USB 2.0 OTG port
- Micro-HDMI port
Any information I put about my experience will be with the YB1-X91F version (aka Windows 10 Wi-Fi)
Dual OS or Switching the pre-installed one:
I have attempted getting Android on my Yoga Book, and completely deleting everything Windows. This has obviously not gone very well for me.
Version's I've tried:
- Android x86 6.0-r1
- Android x86_64 6.0-r1
- Android x86 6.0 20160129
- Android Nougat x86 20160902
- Android 4.2.2-r1 "ia3-core mesa-userdebug"
- Remix OS (32 & 64-bit)
The one I personally have had the most success with (by that I mean I've gotten it to display the Android set-up screen with no touch-input) is the 32-bit version of 6.0-r1 (so the first one on my list above).
Other OS's that I've tried/succeeded in running:
- GParted Live 0.28.1-2 i686 (although, the whole screen is in portrait mode)
- Ubuntu 16.10 Desktop (amd64 - so it obviously didn't work)
- Windows 10 with AMIDuOS on-top (honestly wasn't that great)
Currently testing:
- Windows 10 with BlueStacks on-top
TLDR:
If you're on the Windows 10 version of the Yoga Book, I cannot recommend attempting to install Android on it (even with a dual-boot) at this current time. This will probably change if x86 Android update their ROM/Image, though.
I'm currently testing the practicality of putting BlueStacks on-top of Windows 10, which is a player that allows you to run Android apps. The only thing I'm keeping an eye on is battery life (since it'll be doing background tasks for Windows AND Android). However, you will at least have full functionality - especially with the Halo Keyboard.
Ehh... BlueStacks isn't that great after all. Personally I'd stick with Windows apps if you need something like that.
I will add more info and links later on, I just wanted to get this out before hitting the hay. Australia's time difference sucks.
AmiDuOS works for me but the keyboard language cannot be changed somehow.
nan0s7 said:
Hello, everyone!
So as we all know, any developments to do with the Yoga Book seem to be very slow.
Considering a decent number of us have experimented with the Yoga Book, I thought it'd be a good idea to make a centralised place for methods that have worked for people, so we can all have a go and hopefully obtain similar results.
So the idea would hopefully end up being something along the lines of my Megathread (which is now in General).
I guess this is where I get the ball rolling...
General Yoga Book Information:
To my knowledge, there are two versions of the Yoga Book, each with two sub-versions for the OS:
1.) YB1-X9aF - this is the Wi-Fi version
2.) YB1-X9aL - this is the LTE/4G version
Where the "a" between the 9 and the F/L is either a zero or a one, depending on the installed OS (Android: 0, Windows 10: 1)
Any information I put about my experience will be with the YB1-X91F version (aka Windows 10 Wi-Fi)
Dual OS or Switching the pre-installed one:
I have attempted getting Android on my Yoga Book, and completely deleting everything Windows. This has obviously not gone very well for me.
Version's I've tried:
- Android x86 6.0-r1
- Android x86_64 6.0-r1
- Android x86 6.0 20160129
- Android Nougat x86 20160902
- Android 4.2.2-r1 "ia3-core mesa-userdebug"
- Remix OS (32 & 64-bit)
The one I personally have had the most success with (by that I mean I've gotten it to display the Android set-up screen with no touch-input) is the 32-bit version of 6.0-r1 (so the first one on my list above).
Other OS's that I've tried/succeeded in running:
- GParted Live 0.28.1-2 i686 (although, the whole screen is in portrait mode)
- Ubuntu 16.10 Desktop (amd64 - so it obviously didn't work)
Currently testing:
- Windows 10 with AMIDuOS on-top
TLDR:
If you're on the Windows 10 version of the Yoga Book, I cannot recommend attempting to install Android on it (even with a dual-boot) at this current time. This will probably change if x86 Android update their ROM/Image, though.
I'm currently testing the practicality of putting AMIDuOS on-top of Windows 10, which will be like having an app that just runs Android. The only thing I'm keeping an eye on is battery life (since it'll be doing background tasks for Windows AND Android). However, you will at least have full functionality - especially with the Halo Keyboard.
I will add more info and links later on, I just wanted to get this out before hitting the hay. Australia's time difference sucks.
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deepsync said:
AmiDuOS works for me but the keyboard language cannot be changed somehow.
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Have you tried different keyboard apps?
Well on screen keyboard works fine. I just can't change the key mappings of the Halo keyboard to my German keyboard. English may work as that seems to be the default.
deepsync said:
Well on screen keyboard works fine. I just can't change the key mappings of the Halo keyboard to my German keyboard. English may work as that seems to be the default.
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Hmm you're right. I've tried switching to a Polish keyboard in AMIDuOS, and it doesn't work at all. Although I didn't try switching the keyboard language in Windows, and then using AMIDuOS. I'm kind of optimistic that that method may work, so possibly give that a try if you haven't yet?
Are you gonna try again if you can get your hands on Lenovo's stock Yoga Book ROM?
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Are you gonna try again if you can get your hands on Lenovo's stock Yoga Book ROM?
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I do actually have a copy of the stock ROM, but not in a format I can put on the Yoga Book without the Android bootloader installed. The versions of Android I tested were ones that include the files for the bootloader and such, but they didn't want to work properly.
If something new comes up, or I get another idea, I will for sure try again. I prefer to use Android over Windows, any day.
I had a minor breakthrough last night. I don't know how I managed it though.
So Remix OS has an installer application you can run from within Windows. I used that, then rebooted into Remix OS. The first boot was met with just lots of graphical errors, but when I rebooted again into Remix OS, it booted perfectly. Android was running smoothly, everything worked (the touch screen, Wi-Fi, etc. - but not the Halo Keyboard). However, when I rebooted again, it stopped working. I was not able to successfully replicate that again - even with many re-installations of Remix OS.
I'll continue to mess with it, but if anyone has Windows and wants to attempt getting Android on it, this may be a viable method they can try. But of course, it's not perfect so don't do anything you don't know how to do just yet.
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However, when I rebooted again, it stopped working. I was not able to successfully replicate that again - even with many re-installations of Remix OS.
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Why so much headache? If you are having the Windows Version how often do you really miss Android? What Apps are not present under Windows? I am absolutely not a gamer, that's probably why I don't really have the need for Android... Anyhow, why installing Remix OS and risking to mess up with the Bootloader? I tried NOX Player and KO Player. The last one works very smooth on an Atom Processor. KO Player even let you go Fullscreen. Everything works out off the box as it's just a layer, Halo Keyboard, Pen, just all works and pretty decent. Many low equipped Android Tablets perform slower...
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Why so much headache? If you are having the Windows Version how often do you really miss Android? What Apps are not present under Windows? I am absolutely not a gamer, that's probably why I don't really have the need for Android... Anyhow, why installing Remix OS and risking to mess up with the Bootloader? I tried NOX Player and KO Player. The last one works very smooth on an Atom Processor. KO Player even let you go Fullscreen. Everything works out off the box as it's just a layer, Halo Keyboard, Pen, just all works and pretty decent. Many low equipped Android Tablets perform slower...
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I've got Windows machines all around me. Which is... tolerable. But it's more that I just enjoy having Android on my device, and I do really enjoy messing with tech. I've gotten so close to getting Android on my tablet, it's just a project to really satisfy my time with. Plus, with Android I have more control over everything
nan0s7 said:
I've gotten so close to getting Android on my tablet, it's just a project to really satisfy my time with. Plus, with Android I have more control over everything
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As a techie achievement I totally understand. But I doubt you will get all the drivers working properly. Halo Keyboard, Wacom & AnyPen for example. But good luck... On the other hand I have to insist: Windows gives you more control over everything... lol...
jamespmi said:
As a techie achievement I totally understand. But I doubt you will get all the drivers working properly. Halo Keyboard, Wacom & AnyPen for example. But good luck... On the other hand I have to insist: Windows gives you more control over everything... lol...
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Once I get some sort of Android on it, that will allow me to flash a ROM that has all the drivers in it. And it depends what you define control as...
nan0s7 said:
Once I get some sort of Android on it, that will allow me to flash a ROM that has all the drivers in it. And it depends what you define control as...
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Hey dude,
It looks like this thread hasn't had a great deal of attention lately, which is kinda sad. I figured it would be a really tricky endeavour anyway.
Anywho, just letting you know that if you do ever figure this out, there's one chick in Australia whom will owe you her eternal thanks.
Seriously, I tried to Remix, I tried to x86, but all it got me was a trip to Harvey Norman and a 2-5 week waiting period to get my book back. If you get a flashable Android ROM for this thing you will be my favourite person in the whole world ever. :laugh:
Melliejoy said:
Hey dude,
It looks like this thread hasn't had a great deal of attention lately, which is kinda sad. I figured it would be a really tricky endeavour anyway.
Anywho, just letting you know that if you do ever figure this out, there's one chick in Australia whom will owe you her eternal thanks.
Seriously, I tried to Remix, I tried to x86, but all it got me was a trip to Harvey Norman and a 2-5 week waiting period to get my book back. If you get a flashable Android ROM for this thing you will be my favourite person in the whole world ever. :laugh:
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Haha damn sounds like a.... fun time
But yeah, there hasn't been much progress. I mean you could always run an emulator on-top of Windows if you NEED an Android tablet.
nan0s7 said:
Haha damn sounds like a.... fun time
But yeah, there hasn't been much progress. I mean you could always run an emulator on-top of Windows if you NEED an Android tablet.
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I didn't NEED Android until I discovered Freeview FV, so I could watch Highway Patrol without taking the TV from my hubby. Between that and the few apps I use for D&D, I'm sort of regretting going with the Windows version.
I can't really do anything until I get it back, anyway. The furthest I got was successfully installing Remix, but it wouldn't accept any external input when trying to select it from the boot menu. I guess I could use an emu, but it's not as good as the real thing.
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I didn't NEED Android until I discovered Freeview FV, so I could watch Highway Patrol without taking the TV from my hubby. Between that and the few apps I use for D&D, I'm sort of regretting going with the Windows version.
I can't really do anything until I get it back, anyway. The furthest I got was successfully installing Remix, but it wouldn't accept any external input when trying to select it from the boot menu. I guess I could use an emu, but it's not as good as the real thing.
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Yeah I wish I had gotten the Android version, but I got mine for a reduced price... so I can't complain too much ;P
Yeah... none of the emus are perfect anyway. I'm hoping that a new version of x86 Android or Remix OS will allow me to get ADB to work, so I can then flash Android. But I'm not holding my breath for that.
Any recent experimenting with Remix? Im about to download it and see what I can gather. Too bad there's about zero android devs on this thing. Im sure a custom Kernel under RemixOS would be fix most of its problems.
sawyerbenjamin said:
Any recent experimenting with Remix? Im about to download it and see what I can gather. Too bad there's about zero android devs on this thing. Im sure a custom Kernel under RemixOS would be fix most of its problems.
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Nah I haven't done anything recently. But if you're having trouble getting things booted use my method (assuming it still works now) and I guess see what you can do
nan0s7 said:
I do actually have a copy of the stock ROM, but not in a format I can put on the Yoga Book without the Android bootloader installed. The versions of Android I tested were ones that include the files for the bootloader and such, but they didn't want to work properly.
If something new comes up, or I get another idea, I will for sure try again. I prefer to use Android over Windows, any day.
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Is your stock ROM for YB1-X90F or YB1-X90L?
ljbha007 said:
Is your stock ROM for YB1-X90F or YB1-X90L?
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I have both. Got them from easy-firmware (had to pay for the X90F version).
They're not "ROMS" so much as they are just a way to replace Android with this particular version. So it comes with all the .img files for each partition you'd normally see (system, boot, etc.) and some scripts to use with the Intel flasher program thingo.