Hello All,
I was just wondering how many of you have noticed some little imperfection in your screen? Not like a burned out pixel, but actually a little blemish from the manfacturing process. I have one little tiny area where it looks like maybe something is under the screen, like a spec of dust?
Has anyone else experienced this? Should I expect the screen to be perfectly flawless? I mean I know it should be, but can you pick out a little blemish?
Thanks,
Sam
It seems like 90% of the phones i've had get a speck or two of dust under the screen at some point. Sometimes phones come from the factory with a speck already under it! My personal opinion is that if you go in search of a totally flawless screen, you're really going to inconvenience yourself for little to no benefit in the end. I started liking all my gadgets a whole heck of a lot more when I learned not to scrutinize them so closely. Mass production has it's benefits and it's drawbacks.
kgbeezr1 said:
I started liking all my gadgets a whole heck of a lot more when I learned not to scrutinize them so closely.
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+1 to that. I need to remember it is a phone, not my first born!
sstriano said:
Hello All,
I was just wondering how many of you have noticed some little imperfection in your screen? Not like a burned out pixel, but actually a little blemish from the manfacturing process. I have one little tiny area where it looks like maybe something is under the screen, like a spec of dust?
Has anyone else experienced this? Should I expect the screen to be perfectly flawless? I mean I know it should be, but can you pick out a little blemish?
Thanks,
Sam
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HTC is notorious for dust under the screen. All my HTC phones have had it. But u can't notice it unless direct sun light is hitting the screen.
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I had one of those little tiny red spiders living in the screen of my dinc. I thought it was cool I would pretend he was like a little nanodroid maintenance robot fixing stuff, I saw him like 10 times in about 2 weeks then he was gone.
Kane5581 said:
I had one of those little tiny red spiders living in the screen of my dinc. I thought it was cool I would pretend he was like a little nanodroid maintenance robot fixing stuff, I saw him like 10 times in about 2 weeks then he was gone.
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Thats kinda cool! He's probably still in there....
I wish i had a red spider in my phone :'(
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phyba said:
HTC is notorious for dust under the screen. All my HTC phones have had it. But u can't notice it unless direct sun light is hitting the screen.
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And this looks more like a tiny dimple, or imperfection, I would say it looks like (if they had them) a mold mark of the smallest caliber.
I was just trying to get an idea as to if expecting a perfect screen with zero flaws was realistic, and I assume now that it is not. I have a very picky eye, I will find a flaw if it is there, my wife is always like "Really?, I would have never seen that.".
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And this looks more like a tiny dimple, or imperfection, I would say it looks like (if they had them) a mold mark of the smallest caliber.
I was just trying to get an idea as to if expecting a perfect screen with zero flaws was realistic, and I assume now that it is not. I have a very picky eye, I will find a flaw if it is there, my wife is always like "Really?, I would have never seen that.".
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Yea I had one on my EVO 3d. .what sucks is once u notice it, u always see it lol. Sucks. But I've gotten used to it. My rezound has a few specs under the screen
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cincyelite22 said:
I wish i had a red spider in my phone :'(
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Have you tried the market. They got everything HaHa
I agree that it's good not to be overly preoccupied w/screen compromises and deficiencies, given that all phone displays have them (the Rez' being somewhat subdued colors, unimpressive sunlight visibility, and crappy viewing angles), but I've never noticed a bad pixel or screen blemish in my Rezound, two previous Charges, two OG Droids, or a Blackberry.
yeah i hvae this tinnnnnnny spec of dust under my screen....my incredible didn't have anything though. that phone was built like a beast! haha
First 2 phones had dead pixels out the ass. Third phone had a spec of dust the size of 3 pixels that my OCD could not live with. Fourth has been perfect.
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I agree that it's good not to be overly preoccupied w/screen compromises and deficiencies, given that all phone displays have them (the Rez' being somewhat subdued colors, unimpressive sunlight visibility, and crappy viewing angles), but I've never noticed a bad pixel or screen blemish in my Rezound, two previous Charges, two OG Droids, or a Blackberry.
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I really wouldn't call the colors "subdued" to me the colors feel more natural as opposed to washed out. But hell this is just based off of our personal opinions right here. All LCD's have issues with direct visibilty with sunlight, then again practically every phone does. As for the viewing angles,the only time that I could find that a hinderence, is when I'm showing others videos, it's a bit harder for me to view. But the other 99.99% of the time I use my phone I am viewing the at a direct angle so no issues here.
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yeah i hvae this tinnnnnnny spec of dust under my screen....my incredible didn't have anything though. that phone was built like a beast! haha
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Your old inc was AMOLED correct? I believe any device using that technology has a zero tolerancy for dust under the screen. I haven't even bothered looking for dust under my screen, I was way too OCD about it in the past.
I dont know for sure about his...but some dinc had LCD screens.
Also....those who like Samsung TVs will say the resound is washed out. Just like they would say a Sony or Panasonic is washed out. They are not, they are natural but when you are used to over exaggerated fake colors they seem washed out.
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I dont know for sure about his...but some dinc had LCD screens.
Also....those who like Samsung TVs will say the resound is washed out. Just like they would say a Sony or Panasonic is washed out. They are not, they are natural but when you are used to over exaggerated fake colors they seem washed out.
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Yeah I personally do not like AMOLED technology for that reason . The first batch of og incs had AMOLED displays, but when they couldn't keep up with the huge demand, they switched to LCD.
i loved the AMOLED screen of the inc, i thought the blacks were unbeatable and the colors were amazing............
that is until i got the rezound, realized how oversaturated AMOLED really is, and how much pentile displays give me a headache now because i continously focus on the pixels!!
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i loved the AMOLED screen of the inc, i thought the blacks were unbeatable and the colors were amazing............
that is until i got the rezound, realized how oversaturated AMOLED really is, and how much pentile displays give me a headache now because i continously focus on the pixels!!
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Pentile is garbage hands down. It's funny to see all the Nexus fan boys try to defend the screen.
I do a lot if boating here in FL. The Samsung Omnia2 with it's Amoled screen was suppose to be easier to see in direct sunlight, thus perfect for me. I could not see it at all in direct sunlight. I can, however see my Droid X and Rezound screens in direct sun. Granted I can see them better in the shade, but at least they aren't useless as was my Omnia screen. I also felt the colors on the Omnia looked cartoonish.
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+1 to that. I need to remember it is a phone, not my first born!
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Well I hope if your first born has blemishes you won't worry about it enough to post on a forum about it.
Kane5581 said:
I had one of those little tiny red spiders living in the screen of my dinc. I thought it was cool I would pretend he was like a little nanodroid maintenance robot fixing stuff, I saw him like 10 times in about 2 weeks then he was gone.
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Well if you get one in your Rezound it might be a pink spider!
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It may be hard to see in the picture, but my phone has streaks or ripples inside the screen. I noticed the problem day one before putting on a screen protector. Does anyone else have this issue or do I have a defective device?
If you're referring to the pyramid looking shapes "underneath" your screen that you can only really see from a side angle...that is what allows you to see the 3d images...if you're not referring to those...then we need a better pic, because there's too much going on in your current one to tell what could be a flaw
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It may be hard to see in the picture, but my phone has streaks or ripples inside the screen. I noticed the problem day one before putting on a screen protector. Does anyone else have this issue or do I have a defective device?
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It's tough to see exactly what you mean, but I think I see what you're talking about. The flash reflection makes it difficult to see. Anyways, if it's not the screen protector causing it, then I'd probably say it's defective. I have no flaws or blemishes in my screen at all. I'd take it to Sprint and get it checked out.
normal...stop looking at your phone in unusable angels under bright lights and you should be ok and never see it.
I do apologize for the lousy pic. I was reading about the 3D tech in the screen and understand that is there. Instead of my screen being solid black when it's off, it has random marks that kind of look like stretch marks. In a dark room its unnoticeable however at work(where it's bright as crap) I can actually see the lines while the screen is on. Couldn’t find any info on this anywhere.
I had the same thing on my first E3D and the guy at sprint thought I was crazy. You can only see them at the right angle so they are not noticeable 85% of the time. When I got my hands on a second E3D and held it just right the guy saw the same thing and did a return. No problems with the screen on my new one.
Mine is evident at any angle. I hate to complain, but I'll have this phone for over 2 years so I think I'll convince my sprint store to trade it out again. First one had large dust, dead pixels, majorly tilted screen. For me if I didn’t notice it all the time at work then it wouldn’t be an issue, but I do.
My friend had **** appear under his screen.... I want to say it looked like liquid, but it was very uniform and the water sticker things had not been tripped. it could only be seen under bright light such as the sun. Needless to say he returned it, the store employee said he had never seen it before.
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The original EVO had those ripples as well.....I happen to think thatsthe gorilla glass on the top.....I noticed that a long time ago with my OG EVO.....and I had 5 of em LOL......but yeah....not.doubting ya Vin.......but remember that from before.....
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The original EVO had those ripples as well.....I happen to think thatsthe gorilla glass on the top.....I noticed that a long time ago with my OG EVO.....and I had 5 of em LOL......but yeah....not.doubting ya Vin.......but remember that from before.....
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Slightly, but nowhere near as prominent and uniform as with the 3d. You had 5 bad phones homie!
Thanks guys I appreciate the feedback. I researched all over the internet and could not find a reasoning behind these so called water marks or stretch marks under the screen. It must have something to do with the way HTC melds the screen together. Anyway I'm going to the sprint store today to see if they will work with me as it is obviously a defect. Seems to be an extremely rare issue so far or no one has noticed. Unfortunately for me where I work we have very bright lights so I noticed it right away. As with any product there seems to be a few bad batches of these phones out there. Hopefully number 3 will be near perfect.
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Perhaps you could clean the screen and then post a fresh pic. I'm having a difficult time discerning smudges from what you're referring to.
Do you have a screen protector on your phone?
Me and 3 friends have 3d's. Every one has the same thing, if you look at them from the side, almost 90 degrees, you can see a texture to the glass, and it almost seems like you would be able to feel it, but I believe its just the gorilla glass resin.
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Me and 3 friends have 3d's. Every one has the same thing, if you look at them from the side, almost 90 degrees, you can see a texture to the glass, and it almost seems like you would be able to feel it, but I believe its just the gorilla glass resin.
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We discussed those textures (see my first post in thread), but those are not what he's referring to
The screen was totally clean in the new pic. Yes I have a stick on screen protector and it has no effect on my problem. I realized I couldn't whipe the streaks out before I put it on.
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Slightly, but nowhere near as prominent and uniform as with the 3d. You had 5 bad phones homie!
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lol.....I KNOW IT SOUNDS EXTREME, but i got my first one since launch...so yes, thru all the time up till i got my 3D i had 5.....i know 2 i dropped in paint at work....woo-hoo....LOL. hmmmm, i dunno it seemed to me that the ripples looks the same on both, but hey, i could be wrong.
EDIT....and im talking about the ripples....not scratches..i dont think scratched would be there by default
I would take it in. I can clearly see what you're talking about, and mine definitely doesn't have any kind of vertical streaking like that.
Okay, if the screen was clean in that last pic, I think I see what you're talking about now. The darker lines that almost look like a fingernail drew them? And you're sure they aren't between your screen protector and the glass? I'd take it back, that's not right.
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I was playing around with this phone at a Verizon store today and noticed weird fuzziness on text & around icons. I thought there was something wrong with my eyes at first, but then realized none of the other phones in the store were doing it. I then went to another RAZR that was on display and it was the same way also. I could see it holding the phone roughly 2ft away... granted, if I extended my arm out I couldn't tell anymore.
wow though.. when. saw all the reviews of people comlaining about the screen I didn't realize how bad it actually is. granted, I don't wear glasses & have 20/20 vision so I'm not sure if everyone is affected. you'd think they would at least have some sort of blur filter to mask it.
What are you talking about.... I compare my razr with high brightness setting with my gf iPhone 4s, beat the retina display
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No problems with my display, looks great all day all night. Came from atrix though, so maybe thats the deal.
I cant see any Pentile effects until its less than 1 foot 3in away. Past that I dont see it anymore. My viewing distances is between 1ft 3in and 1ft 9 in. If you can see it at 2 feet away....you have very good, exceptional eye sight.
And when I say I can see it...thats the closest distance I can start seeing it if I focus on the icon edges and texts. And it seems to be certain color texts on certain color backgrounds. Cuz on my home screens I can see the effect real good. I tried a website and I cant see it at all.
Actually....I must have short arms too cuz at 2 feet away thats like almost at the extreme length of my arms. EDIT...Ok...sitting down I use the phone about at that distance...lol. But stretched out in front of me its uncomfortable.
As far as it being bad, real bad, extremely bad...lol. Everybody's entitled to their opinion.
Hey....at extreme closeness for me, yea its bad around icons and texts. But thats at extreme closeness....for me. To me...some ppl make it out like the entire screen looks like a screen door. Thats not the case. I also think everyone doesnt have the same viewing distances to see the effects. And I have pretty decent eye sight. So you will see some ppl that dont see it at all, period. And some that see it like you do.
So how do ppl tolerate it? The ppl that dont, cant see it....there is nothing to tolerate. Ppl that can see it under specific conditions...like me...those specific conditions are not normal use for me. Like viewing angles of most LCD screens on phones. They wash out, fade bad. I always look at my phone screen straight on. So Amoled viewing angles dont really matter unless you are trying to show ppl things on your phone. Noprmally I would want them to see the phone screen straight on anyway. Its all about specific conditions...
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I cant see any Pentile effects until its less than 1 foot 3in away. Past that I dont see it anymore. My viewing distances is between 1ft 3in and 1ft 9 in. If you can see it at 2 feet away....you have very good, exceptional eye sight.
And when I say I can see it...thats the closest distance I can start seeing it if I focus on the icon edges and texts. And it seems to be certain color texts on certain color backgrounds. Cuz on my home screens I can see the effect real good. I tried a website and I cant see it at all.
Actually....I must have short arms too cuz at 2 feet away thats like almost at the extreme length of my arms. EDIT...Ok...sitting down I use the phone about at that distance...lol. But stretched out in front of me its uncomfortable.
As far as it being bad, real bad, extremely bad...lol. Everybody's entitled to their opinion.
Hey....at extreme closeness for me, yea its bad around icons and texts. But thats at extreme closeness....for me. To me...some ppl make it out like the entire screen looks like a screen door. Thats not the case. I also think everyone doesnt have the same viewing distances to see the effects. And I have pretty decent eye sight. So you will see some ppl that dont see it at all, period. And some that see it like you do.
So how do ppl tolerate it? The ppl that dont, cant see it....there is nothing to tolerate. Ppl that can see it under specific conditions...like me...those specific conditions are not normal use for me. Like viewing angles of most LCD screens on phones. They wash out, fade bad. I always look at my phone screen straight on. So Amoled viewing angles dont really matter unless you are trying to show ppl things on your phone. Noprmally I would want them to see the phone screen straight on anyway. Its all about specific conditions...
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yeah... if your eyes don't notice it its not a problem. similiar thing happened when I traded in a couple of Sony PSP 2001 models so I could grab the new 3001 model. I could see big time intrrlacing/scanline effects all over the screen(mainly when there was a lot of motion). I took it back complaining and the guy at the counter said he couldn't see it.... yet I found a bunch of forums/reviews of people specifying that they had the same experiences as me.
oh, and at 2ft away I could just barely notice it... but at about 1ft away it really bothered me and kept feeling like there was something wrong with my eyes. damn though, the phone does look & feel really cool.
btw, my eyes may be good, but my hearing is crap from years of partying & dj'ing. everytime someone talks to me I'm all "pardon?"...
Why do people that don't own the phone, or are not considering it, feel compelled to start a whole thread to complain about it?
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I don't notice any problems. The text looks good to me.
Gave me a headache the first day I used it. Seem to have adapted to it now. Increasing the size of text in commonly used apps helped a lot.
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I have both the Rezound and Razr.. Razr is good, better than Bionic.. but after the Rezound, everything else is just ok now.
Is this the first pentile you have seen, or a loaded thread?
Most reviews actually like the display in relation to the actual bad reviews of the display. I agree there are better displays like the Rezound, but the Razr display is not as bad as implied. Does look funky next to the Rezound though.
yea, went to verizon to compare rezound and razr sceens last week. first went to razr and it looked really good. then to rezound with the wavy dots live wallpaper and was amazed. walked back to razr and instantly saw all the pentile dots everywhere. it all changes with perspective.
maybe its the crack you were smoking... this screen is fantastic! is it perfect? nope, but which one is?
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I was playing around with this phone at a Verizon store today and noticed weird fuzziness on text & around icons. I thought there was something wrong with my eyes at first, but then realized none of the other phones in the store were doing it. I then went to another RAZR that was on display and it was the same way also. I could see it holding the phone roughly 2ft away... granted, if I extended my arm out I couldn't tell anymore.
wow though.. when. saw all the reviews of people comlaining about the screen I didn't realize how bad it actually is. granted, I don't wear glasses & have 20/20 vision so I'm not sure if everyone is affected. you'd think they would at least have some sort of blur filter to mask it.
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I saw no problems with the screen, and actually found it very crisp... IDK what u saw hoenstly, maybe its 20/180 vision u have?
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I saw no problems with the screen, and actually found it very crisp... IDK what u saw hoenstly, maybe its 20/180 vision u have?
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May be he just saw lock screen. Yes you can saw pixels clearly on blur lock screen. But after unlock it is fine.
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Razr's screen is great once your eyes adapt to it which usually takes a day. Rezounds screen might be better but i am not sure if it can produce colors like razrs. Plus dont forget that rezound is 2x thicker than razr.
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maybe its the crack you were smoking... this screen is fantastic! is it perfect? nope, but which one is?
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iPhone 4... Sorry but its true. Getting my razr today and I'm praying I can tolerate the display. I've been trying to get rid of my iPhone for a while now, because it's driving me insane. (great hardware, no awesome hardware, but iOS? Lol what a crappy OS).
But every android I had so far just sucked. S2? Ugly as hell. sensation? Are you serious with that display?
And now the razr. I really hope third ones the charm. Was thinking about galax nexus but no sd card is a no go. Why is it so hard to make a good phone? Somewhere around a 4" screen, notification led, sd card slot and a display that doesn't give you a headache when you're reading an article for 20 minutes.
Would get the rezound, but for some reason I do not understand it's not coming to Europe...
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I was playing around with this phone at a Verizon store today and noticed weird fuzziness on text & around icons. I thought there was something wrong with my eyes at first, but then realized none of the other phones in the store were doing it. I then went to another RAZR that was on display and it was the same way also. I could see it holding the phone roughly 2ft away... granted, if I extended my arm out I couldn't tell anymore.
wow though.. when. saw all the reviews of people comlaining about the screen I didn't realize how bad it actually is. granted, I don't wear glasses & have 20/20 vision so I'm not sure if everyone is affected. you'd think they would at least have some sort of blur filter to mask it.
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I went to one Verizon Store and the Screen looked Great!!! I went to another Verizon Store and it did not look as good as the other. What I am saying to you is that in every store the screens on the RazR can change.
If you compare the RAZR display to the SGS2 one, the only problem is that RAZR is PenTile Matrix while SGS2 is RGB.
RGB looks really better (only for resolution), while the RAZR's PenTile (not an OLD PenTile, it's a new one, the pixels are really small compared to the oldies...like ATRIX as well) is better: better vibrance, better colors, better resolution.
It's bad at the beginning, but if you use it for a couple of days, you'll see it isn't bad!
Ask yourself why most of these complainers who try to throw some **** to RAZR's fantastic display, dont even mention that their phones' poor signal reception, call quality and low speaker volume, cheap build quality, erratic battery issues in their own forums ?
Just my 2cents.
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May be he just saw lock screen. Yes you can saw pixels clearly on blur lock screen. But after unlock it is fine.
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And I really think that the lock screen is done by design. If you look closely at the area with no letters or numbers it looks like mesh. Look at the area while you are unlocking thats not part of the lock screen, around the lock icon, and it looks clear. Like look at the notification shade when its pulled down. You can see thru it and it looks like mesh. I think its by design.
Like on the Bionic's lock screen and car dock screen.
I have a Photon and a Defy. Why Photon resolution is so bad? I can see the dots on screen...
Colors are so desaturated, specially yellow's...
I'm deeply disappointed with that...
Its the pentile hd display, yeah some colors show a little pixelation when you look closely, but ive always loved the screen and thought the colors were better displayed than the over-saturated colors in AOLED(did I spell that right?) Anyways, at firdt I thought the pixelation might bother me but It doesnt one bit cause its such a small difference for me atleast.. I love the color contrast though!
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AMOLED close enough though lol. And I use to think the same thing, but I really started to like the screen. Yeah its a little pixelated, but bright and easy to see. Just don't try to pay so much attention to it, and it won't bother you as much. Also don't use your phone so close to your face like I used to do haha.
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I had Defy, before Photon and I had the same problem with screen. But I must say, it's only a question of manner. Now I am satisfied with screen of Photon.
Pentile take getting used to, really wish they'd made it 720p so you can't notice but I like the display anyway
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I have a Photon and a Defy. Why Photon resolution is so bad? I can see the dots on screen...
Colors are so desaturated, specially yellow's...
I'm deeply disappointed with that...
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So, why did you buy it? I've had mine 9 months and spent an hour with it in a store to make sure the screen worked with my eyes.
Isn't it about 9 months too late to be whining about something nobody forced you to buy?
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AMOLED close enough though lol. And I use to think the same thing, but I really started to like the screen. Yeah its a little pixelated, but bright and easy to see. Just don't try to pay so much attention to it, and it won't bother you as much. Also don't use your phone so close to your face like I used to do haha.
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yes! I forgot to add that cause im ao use to it now, the screen is SO easy to see,with brightness turned off and in the sun, you can still read your screen! Yeah you should probably turn up the brightness but every other phone you cant see a thing in the sun with the brightness off, very good for the battery!
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I've never noticed an issue with the display. Sure, I can see pixels if I look really close... and when quickly scrolling, it gets kinda blurry.
Still, I had the HTC Hero S (US Cellular's equivalent of you Sprint folks' HTC Evo Design 4G... but without the 4G) for six days, and my wife got the Electrify, and after seeing her screen, I traded. Hero S/Evo Design has the same number of pixels, but a smaller (4.0") screen. It had a very nice screen, but I wanted a bigger one. And when I got my Electrify, it just felt like the right phone.
I've seen Samsung's AMOLED screens. They aren't bad, but they aren't a selling point, to me. My last phone was a Samsung, and the call and reception quality going from Samsung to Motorola was huge, and the battery life isn't bad, either.
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I've never noticed an issue with the display. Sure, I can see pixels if I look really close... and when quickly scrolling, it gets kinda blurry.
Still, I had the HTC Hero S (US Cellular's equivalent of you Sprint folks' HTC Evo Design 4G... but without the 4G) for six days, and my wife got the Electrify, and after seeing her screen, I traded. Hero S/Evo Design has the same number of pixels, but a smaller (4.0") screen. It had a very nice screen, but I wanted a bigger one. And when I got my Electrify, it just felt like the right phone.
I've seen Samsung's AMOLED screens. They aren't bad, but they aren't a selling point, to me. My last phone was a Samsung, and the call and reception quality going from Samsung to Motorola was huge, and the battery life isn't bad, either.
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Good post.
I moved from the EVO to EVO 4G to Photon. From reading reviews at time I considered the Photon, I was fully prepared to hate the pentile screen. But, my eyes just plain did not see the pentile pixelation (from reading posts at the time, some peoples' eyes saw it, some didn't). I spent an hour in the store before buying the Photon.
During my return window, the Samsung Epic came out with larger screen (physically, but lower-res). Back to the store I go - I found the Sammy's screen to be way over-saturated wrt colors, and washed out in the sun.
Hey guys ! I own a HTC EVO 3D right now, but I'm going to switch it for an ATRIX 4G tomorrow.
I want to ask you... How do you feel about the ATRIX's screen? I know it's a TFT LCD with the RGBW matrix, which is what makes my brain twist and say "OH SH*T NO". What's your say on that?
Also... voice quality... Is it loud & clear enough? I mean, compared to other phones you might have owned...
And the camera?
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And... most of all... the chipset?! How is it going for you?! I hear it is actually less performant & more power-hungry than Qualcomm's dual core, but I don't really know...
awh its a great phone......but stock gb rom sucks. u wud love it if you are a social networking fan!! for me im pretty happy with my cm flavored atrix. the chip is good, camera is okay.....and about sound i dont give huge scores! display hmmm u shud love it!!
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awh its a great phone......but stock gb rom sucks. u wud love it if you are a social networking fan!! for me im pretty happy with my cm flavored atrix. the chip is good, camera is okay.....and about sound i dont give huge scores! display hmmm u shud love it!!
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This whole weekend I've been going back and forth, deciding to trade it for an ATRIX, then changing my mind and returning to HTC... Now I was sure I was gonna make the switch, but here I go again, returning to HTC.
The ATRIX's screen is TFT, as opposed to HTC's S-LCD, and that wouldn't be THAT MUCH of a problem if it didn't had the RGBW matrix... I read a lot on the phone, and that would just ruin my experience, probably making me feel the urge to blend the phone or something.
I think I'll stick to HTC... If only Motorola were to use standard RGB...
good luck
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I feel somewhat bad for all this (the whole back and forth thing). No phone has everything you need... at least not without some drawbacks, GOD DAMN IT
Sense is hard to leave, especially with sense 4 out now.
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I feel somewhat bad for all this (the whole back and forth thing). No phone has everything you need... at least not without some drawbacks, GOD DAMN IT
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as you are concerned about the screen, maybe i can help a little. first off, i have really great eyesight, pentile matrix displays make me want to hurt people, but its not all bad. the qHD resolution makes the subpixles much harder to see, i personally can only see them when its about a foot or closer to my face, some colors i can see it farther away, such as green, i can see some distortion about a foot and a half away form my face. but its very hard to see, its a HUGE difference form say, a captivates pentile screen.
next thing to keep in mind is the colors. yellow is a big complaint, i dont notice it to much but the colors are far from perfect, i feel the screen is a hair cold by default, and there are ways to reduce the blue if you are rooted, i did a guide on it a while ago.
last thing is gradients, they look bad, that is the only thing i really am disappointed with, you can see artifacting as the colors shift, although i dont know if im crazy but it seems better then before.
keep in mind that all of these things you will get use to with a little time, i got use to them quickly and i am a stickler for screen quality. one of the goods of the screen though is the battery life, the type of display saves a ton of juice thus making one of the longest lasting phones of its time. now that, I love.
im not trying to bash my own phone here, i love it, and always will, its an amazing device and was everything i wanted when i got it. the screen is something i can live with, and the the battery life plus the higher resolution makes up for it in my book.
let me know if there is anything else you want to know, hope i was a little helpful.
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as you are concerned about the screen, maybe i can help a little. first off, i have really great eyesight, pentile matrix displays make me want to hurt people, but its not all bad. the qHD resolution makes the subpixles much harder to see, i personally can only see them when its about a foot or closer to my face, some colors i can see it farther away, such as green, i can see some distortion about a foot and a half away form my face. but its very hard to see, its a HUGE difference form say, a captivates pentile screen.
next thing to keep in mind is the colors. yellow is a big complaint, i dont notice it to much but the colors are far from perfect, i feel the screen is a hair cold by default, and there are ways to reduce the blue if you are rooted, i did a guide on it a while ago.
last thing is gradients, they look bad, that is the only thing i really am disappointed with, you can see artifacting as the colors shift, although i dont know if im crazy but it seems better then before.
keep in mind that all of these things you will get use to with a little time, i got use to them quickly and i am a stickler for screen quality. one of the goods of the screen though is the battery life, the type of display saves a ton of juice thus making one of the longest lasting phones of its time. now that, I love.
im not trying to bash my own phone here, i love it, and always will, its an amazing device and was everything i wanted when i got it. the screen is something i can live with, and the the battery life plus the higher resolution makes up for it in my book.
let me know if there is anything else you want to know, hope i was a little helpful.
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I do a lot of reading on my phone, and having that screen would kill me... Plus the gradients thing... I noticed it in a 480p YouTube video, ffs, lol.
The battery is all nice, the chipset seems good enough, but even though the screen is all bright in the sun, its downs are making me wanna throw rocks at it, lol.
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You know what, I think I'm gonna give the ATRIX a try. I'm going in a couple of hours to see that guy to make the trade.
Got the phone. Tinkered with it already. Love it so far! This PenTile isn't really awful.
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Got the phone. Tinkered with it already. Love it so far! This PenTile isn't really awful.
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Which phone do you like better now since you got the Atrix? Just curious.
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Which phone do you like better now since you got the Atrix? Just curious.
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It's hard for me to answer this.
I loved the EVO 3D. The back design made it attractive, and the overall body... it was nice, alright. Also, the big screen was neat.
There were a few things that made me change the phone. The screen was somewhat yellowish (had to use Filter Your Screen to add a blue alpha so it would not be so yellowish on white menus and so brownish on gray menus - but that still didn't fix it 100%). The earpiece was creaky, and so was the loudspeaker on maximum volume...
I wanted the ATRIX for it has a bigger battery, a decent chipset, and a more robust design. I mean... the body is more compact - feels better in the hand, more secure, I'd say. Besides, on this phone I no longer feel the urge to smash it on the wall for yellow whites or creaky voices in-calls.
Also, the screen is just AMAZING. Even though it's a TFT, and it's got PenTile, I find it really nice. The whites are PURE WHITE. The blacks are BLACK!!! Also, if you know that ICS wallpaper... it really looks better on the ATRIX. The colors were somewhat washed on the EVO 3D - proof that S-LCD still needed work. To be honest, I think this TFT screen can be compared to the Samsung Galaxy S's SUPER AMOLED.
Even if I turn down the screen's brightness to the minimum, the whites still blind me during night time, especially if I hold the phone somewhat close to my face. On full brightness, in the sunlight, it ROCKS !!!
The only thing I wished for is some aluminium on the body. It's all plasticky... good thing I have an iCase Pro (MOMAX) case, otherwise... I wouldn't really like it .
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It's hard for me to answer this.
I loved the EVO 3D. The back design made it attractive, and the overall body... it was nice, alright. Also, the big screen was neat.
There were a few things that made me change the phone. The screen was somewhat yellowish (had to use Filter Your Screen to add a blue alpha so it would not be so yellowish on white menus and so brownish on gray menus - but that still didn't fix it 100%). The earpiece was creaky, and so was the loudspeaker on maximum volume...
I wanted the ATRIX for it has a bigger battery, a decent chipset, and a more robust design. I mean... the body is more compact - feels better in the hand, more secure, I'd say. Besides, on this phone I no longer feel the urge to smash it on the wall for yellow whites or creaky voices in-calls.
Also, the screen is just AMAZING. Even though it's a TFT, and it's got PenTile, I find it really nice. The whites are PURE WHITE. The blacks are BLACK!!! Also, if you know that ICS wallpaper... it really looks better on the ATRIX. The colors were somewhat washed on the EVO 3D - proof that S-LCD still needed work. To be honest, I think this TFT screen can be compared to the Samsung Galaxy S's SUPER AMOLED.
Even if I turn down the screen's brightness to the minimum, the whites still blind me during night time, especially if I hold the phone somewhat close to my face. On full brightness, in the sunlight, it ROCKS !!!
The only thing I wished for is some aluminium on the body. It's all plasticky... good thing I have an iCase Pro (MOMAX) case, otherwise... I wouldn't really like it .
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Welcome to the atrix family
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It's hard for me to answer this.
I loved the EVO 3D. The back design made it attractive, and the overall body... it was nice, alright. Also, the big screen was neat.
There were a few things that made me change the phone. The screen was somewhat yellowish (had to use Filter Your Screen to add a blue alpha so it would not be so yellowish on white menus and so brownish on gray menus - but that still didn't fix it 100%). The earpiece was creaky, and so was the loudspeaker on maximum volume...
I wanted the ATRIX for it has a bigger battery, a decent chipset, and a more robust design. I mean... the body is more compact - feels better in the hand, more secure, I'd say. Besides, on this phone I no longer feel the urge to smash it on the wall for yellow whites or creaky voices in-calls.
Also, the screen is just AMAZING. Even though it's a TFT, and it's got PenTile, I find it really nice. The whites are PURE WHITE. The blacks are BLACK!!! Also, if you know that ICS wallpaper... it really looks better on the ATRIX. The colors were somewhat washed on the EVO 3D - proof that S-LCD still needed work. To be honest, I think this TFT screen can be compared to the Samsung Galaxy S's SUPER AMOLED.
Even if I turn down the screen's brightness to the minimum, the whites still blind me during night time, especially if I hold the phone somewhat close to my face. On full brightness, in the sunlight, it ROCKS !!!
The only thing I wished for is some aluminium on the body. It's all plasticky... good thing I have an iCase Pro (MOMAX) case, otherwise... I wouldn't really like it .
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Good reasons and observations. I really liked that. They way you responded about the evo 3d, I wouldn't buy that at all. Thanks for sharing.
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bimasakti85 said:
Welcome to the atrix family
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thanks
Voelker45 said:
Good reasons and observations. I really liked that. They way you responded about the evo 3d, I wouldn't buy that at all. Thanks for sharing.
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Don't get me wrong... MY phone was a bad unit - about the yellowish screen. Another friend had the 3VO and it was white, but compared to my ATRIX now, the ATRIX is white and his 3VO yellow.
The creaking earpiece was also a problem that occured later - I believe some water got in, idk.
The EVO 3D is a great phone.
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Don't get me wrong... MY phone was a bad unit - about the yellowish screen. Another friend had the 3VO and it was white, but compared to my ATRIX now, the ATRIX is white and his 3VO yellow.
The creaking earpiece was also a problem that occured later - I believe some water got in, idk.
The EVO 3D is a great phone.
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Nice Review. The atrix is a BEAST especially when throwing Neutrino behind it!
I came from a iPhone 4 to the Atrix a few months ago and it has it's ups and downs. My only real gripe of any consequence is the battery life. It isnt terrible, but you have to do a little tweaking (at least with CM7, I found so). I've been playing with ICS on it and so far have noticed a slight improvement in that arena. Plus ICS feels like a much nicer UI overall.
I love the size of the screen on, and I personally have found no problem with it. My main use for the phone (other than calls) is web browsing and reading using the Kindle and nook, and aldiko book readers.
And music playback of course. I have one playlist or another going most of the time if I am not talking to someone (desk job, might as well get my tune on).
My headphone jack failed a month or so after I bought the phone (used, off ebay), and while it was at Motorola getting fixed (warranty job, only paid shipping to them) I was back on my I4 for a couple weeks and I felt a lot better getting the Atrix back, and not just for Android. You just get addicted to the larger screen so easy.
My secondary gripe of any matter is the placement of the power button. Just feels very awkward to use 1 handed. But I added a wake on volume mod instead, and that problem was solved.
Genomerio said:
I came from a iPhone 4 to the Atrix a few months ago and it has it's ups and downs. My only real gripe of any consequence is the battery life. It isnt terrible, but you have to do a little tweaking (at least with CM7, I found so). I've been playing with ICS on it and so far have noticed a slight improvement in that arena. Plus ICS feels like a much nicer UI overall.
I love the size of the screen on, and I personally have found no problem with it. My main use for the phone (other than calls) is web browsing and reading using the Kindle and nook, and aldiko book readers.
And music playback of course. I have one playlist or another going most of the time if I am not talking to someone (desk job, might as well get my tune on).
My headphone jack failed a month or so after I bought the phone (used, off ebay), and while it was at Motorola getting fixed (warranty job, only paid shipping to them) I was back on my I4 for a couple weeks and I felt a lot better getting the Atrix back, and not just for Android. You just get addicted to the larger screen so easy.
My secondary gripe of any matter is the placement of the power button. Just feels very awkward to use 1 handed. But I added a wake on volume mod instead, and that problem was solved.
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I hate the iPhone. Overpriced, tiny 3.5 incher... Besides, Android is much better. Otherwise I would have gotten an iPhone...
If the EVO 3D unit I had didn't had those few things that I didn't like about (malfunctions, that is), I would've sticked to it. Just letting ya know. I consider the EVO 3D above the ATRIX (in some aspects, at leasts).
But compared to the iPhone 4S... The ATRIX wins big time. Bigger battery, better CPU, bigger RAM, better/nicer OS, bigger screen... The only thing I'm concerned about is the GPU. I know it's an 8-core UltraLowPower processor, but... does it really perform as good as/better than the PowerVR's or Adreno's?! I, for one, would say no but that might be some driver-related issue, which should/might be fixed when the official ICS drops...
Im glad you liked the Atrix. Its a pretty dam nice phone, im im love with it. Very fast and smooth. qHD screens are awesome. Great battery life. Feels very nice on my hand. Nice design, IMO. Welcome to the atrix family.
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But compared to the iPhone 4S... The ATRIX wins big time. Bigger battery, better CPU, bigger RAM, better/nicer OS, bigger screen... The only thing I'm concerned about is the GPU. I know it's an 8-core UltraLowPower processor, but... does it really perform as good as/better than the PowerVR's or Adreno's?! I, for one, would say no but that might be some driver-related issue, which should/might be fixed when the official ICS drops...
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Ouch, gonna have to disagree there. Nothing really beats iPhones os, its sooo simple and easy to use. Best thing about it is that they DONT need quad core, even my ipad2 runs perfect with gaming. The OS is so perfectly optimized that even with my wife's 3gs, there are only a few hiccups. The one thing that I will agree with is the 3.5 inch screen. That's too small. Imagine a 4.3 inch with that retina display....mmmm......
But these are all personal opinions, and no one will ever agree.
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Just wondering if everyone elses LTE is set at a warm color, orange'ish whites
compared to the evo 4g which is cool with blue'ish whites
possible to ever change this?
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Just wondering if everyone elses LTE is set at a warm color, orange'ish whites
compared to the evo 4g which is cool with blue'ish whites
possible to ever change this?
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My brothers has cool whites and I have warm whites...yet our panels are both Sony...so I don't get it.
mine is also a warm-toned screen, nonetheless it looks great
I posted about this yesterday but it already got buried. Unfortunately you can either hassle with taking it back and hoping for a more blueish white panel or you can get used to it. I hated the look when i unboxed, I have the same yellowish tint on white. But im already used to it for the most part. There is an app on the play store called "Screen adjuster" that you can add some blue back in but its not perfect and it has to run in the background i haven't tested to see how much of a load it puts on the phone if left on all day. Also a good app to use to visually inspect the colors your panel is showing is "dead pixel test". So software can be used to help the tint, but as far as a permanent solution, I believe that would be up to HTC. Maybe some devs can do it eventually once we have s-off.
I've just starting to really notice this, and its driving me nuts.
The whites are not white at all, they are more yellowish eggshell (or as I like to call it 'light puke'). You can really notice it when your in natural light. I held it up to something pure white and you can see an epic difference.
Does this not bother anybody else? I forget, but don't some ROMs (for other phones) have options to change screen tones? Is this something that I can look forward to ? Or perhaps my eyes (and mind) are just playing tricks on me.
I dislike 'warm' tones a lot. I wish I gotten a 'cool' tone phone instead, I can handle the blue tone a lot better.
I wonder why this is I mean it isnt like amoled n the screens should be.the.same.... Maybe dim lights inside?
Root it and try chainfire 3d, it has the option to change screen tone in I believe the pro version. Added bonus, works with all roms to my knowledge. I haven't tried it yet myself as I'm completely happy with the tone on mine, but I used it on the og evo for a long time.
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Root it and try chainfire 3d, it has the option to change screen tone in I believe the pro version. Added bonus, works with all roms to my knowledge. I haven't tried it yet myself as I'm completely happy with the tone on mine, but I used it on the og evo for a long time.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try since I'm already rooted. I messed around with 'screen adjuster' and 'filer your screen' and neither seemed to do the trick.
EDIT: Looks like I'll have to wait a bit longer to play with chainfire 3d. Requires S-off (or probably just unlock bootloader). Only have root. But chainfire looks promising.
This was a problem on the One X for AT&T but most of them cleared up after a week or so. My advice would be to keep the brightness up for a while when using it.
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We have two EVO LTE and one of ours is much cooler and blue and the other is much warmer. How do you check if the display type to see if they are different?
My screen is warm also. At first I thought it was the ZAGG HD screen protector that was causing that yellowish tint, but after I removed it, it was still there.
If anyone with two EVO LTE phones can post a side-by-side picture of the warm and cool screens, I'd greatly appreciate it.
TIA
Here is a picture. Its not the best quality so it might be hard to tell a difference. The difference is much more apparent in real life.
Supposedly its due to the adhesive. There is a thread about it in the HOX forum. My screen seems to be whiter than it was a week ago but that may be a placebo effect- I need to do another side by side comparison with my iPhone to tell.
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I was dreading a problem like this. I can deal with blacks not being black (have to deal with it with the very nature of LCD) but whites... Yeah, they need to be white.
Here's to hoping my device doesn't have this issue. I will update this post with news.
get an app called screen adjuster
then increase the blue a little bit, to about 15 or so
woooooorks wonderss!!!
On my NS4G, there was a kernel mod developed by SuperCurio that allowed you to adjust gamma levels. I always ran my phone with very cool blue whites.
Maybe something like that would be possible for the Evo?
I think I have the warmer screen color. Things like this doesn't bother me at all. I've seen thread like this everytime a new phone comes out. After a few week your eyes and OCD levels will adjust.
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You can def tell the one on the right is the warm though. I'm sure in direct natural light the difference is huge.
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Supposedly its due to the adhesive. There is a thread about it in the HOX forum. My screen seems to be whiter than it was a week ago but that may be a placebo effect- I need to do another side by side comparison with my iPhone to tell.
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I'm hoping this is the case. Its weird because I think it changes. Like after it goes in direct natural light it gets really bad.
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I was dreading a problem like this. I can deal with blacks not being black (have to deal with it with the very nature of LCD) but whites... Yeah, they need to be white.
Here's to hoping my device doesn't have this issue. I will update this post with news.
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Same. I can deal with the black but not the whites. Whites need to be crisp and clean not yellow. I repainted all the eggshell whites in my house to pure white. To me it takes away the crispness of the screen.
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get an app called screen adjuster
then increase the blue a little bit, to about 15 or so
woooooorks wonderss!!!
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Man you hit the nail right on the nail. I had mine set at 14 for the past three days. It helps but it still isn't ideal. Plus its consuming resources.
dont think its an adhesive bonding process still "curing"
i think the color temp is permanent.
hopefully a dev will allow color temp change because its a little awkward staring at my pc monitor, then looking at the phone's brown and yellow drab lcd tint.
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dont think its an adhesive bonding process still "curing"
i think the color temp is permanent.
hopefully a dev will allow color temp change because its a little awkward staring at my pc monitor, then looking at the phone's brown and yellow drab lcd tint.
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This is what I am praying for. But enough people have to be annoyed by it for somebody to do something.
The best test is to open the settings menu (Evo white) and compare it against a piece of notebook paper (real white). Its gross.