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I am wondering what kind of battery life people are getting with the Gingerbread leak and subsequent Gingebread ROMs compared to their froyo companions. For example, people who have switched from Das Bamf froyo to Das Bamf gingerbread, etc...
I am running Das Bamg 1.6.3 and leankernel 2.5 with extreme custom undervoltage and I am getting absolutely fantastic battery life, and I'm not sure about making the switch to GB because of it. Will GB improve battery life even further? Thanks guys.
IMO froyo kernels are further in development and will probably get better life but I love the sense 3.0 like gb roms so I'm sticking with em
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Personally my battery has been horrible, pretty much back to how it was when I first got this phone, although I'm on 4g most of the day and overclocked to 1.4 so I really can't complain. I've seen a lot of people saying they haven't noticed any difference in battery life though. Its definitely worth loading, working netflix, lock screen is awesome. I'm sure the devs are working non-stop, thanks guys!
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GB battery life is definitely lower for me, by a decent amount. Still sticking with it though.
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GB battery life is definitely lower for me, by a decent amount. Still sticking with it though.
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+1...mostdef10char.
Not bad..
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My battery life has suffered since moving to GB. I've considered going back to BAMF Remix 1.6.3, but I had random reboots and shutdowns with that rom. There are always drawbacks, you just have to decide what is and isn't important.
I actually disabled push email on my work account. I set it to manual. I'm at a time of the year where I don't need push email. That has helped the battery, but it's still not as good as Froyo.
So my decision came between barely getting through a day on a single charge or having my phone crap out on me a couple of times a day? I decided to stick with the poor battery life.
I'm on battsaver mode with lean kernel for GB...imo is still tweaking the kernel with battery drain and charging issues...not as good as froyo yet but good enough for my daily ROM
I stuck with using perfect storm 1.4 with imosyen extreme that has by far given me the best battery life. Most days I am over 10 hours with normal use. On gingeritis I was getting around 7. Still not bad but the functionality on Perfect Storm 1.4 is far better than on das bamf or gingeritis.
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I stuck with using perfect storm 1.4 with imosyen extreme that has by far given me the best battery life. Most days I am over 10 hours with normal use. On gingeritis I was getting around 7. Still not bad but the functionality on Perfect Storm 1.4 is far better than on das bamf or gingeritis.
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Is that on 3g or 4g?
I was on GB for 5 days. i could def tell a loss in battery life on it. But it wasnt enough to make me change back. i was loving GB. I am now going back because of the radio scare.
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Is that on 3g or 4g?
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I am on 4g most the time... also read the thread about gb brickiing phones....for sure stay with froyo
My battery life was definitely not what it was on froyo BAMF 1.6.3.. I've since flashed back from 2.0, because of the bootlooping/brick shenanigans.. I miss my Sense 3.0 elements, but I really don't wanna go through the hassle of going to VZW for a replacement phone lol
Hello everyone,
i currently own the good ol' fashion nexus one and i decided to stick with htc.
right now i have my eyes set on the evo 3d but i would like to have some more opinions on the phone from people who acctually own\owned one.
how fast is it?
hows the 3d?
is the 1gb or rom that restrictive? [evo 3d gsm users]
does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
and some general notes you have to say about the device.
thanks you all and best regards
how fast is it?
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Umm, fast? Obviously not the fastest phone out anymore, as its about 8 months old.
hows the 3d?
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Works good, but pretty much just a gimick. I have watched a few 3d youtube videos, but I would never be able to stare at this small of a screen to watch a two hour movie.
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
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I believe 1.5 or 1.6 is the highest stable you can go.
Don't buy this pos.
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Don't buy this pos.
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when i saw you name, i thought that i remember i labeled you as a troll from some posts a while back, now reading your reply my initial thoughts were correct.
this phone is very good but if you want a phone that you expect many different roms to flash maybe you should get another phone
I say just wait for the phone that everyone wants = more devs
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this phone is very good but if you want a phone that you expect many different roms to flash maybe you should get another phone
I say just wait for the phone that everyone wants = more devs
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i second this. good phone...not an extreme amount of community/dev support. there is plenty, but it's not a phone that has some great number of experimental roms or anything.
Good phone, but imo should go with something newer if tech interest you. If not, go for it. Can get it really cheap now compared to the other phones with same tech. 3d is just a plus, not a must have but fun to play with and show off to friends.
And 3d boobs =
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It currently has the best resolution, openness of storage, good processor speed, and ram available on sprint. The 3D is an OK extra but even without it it's the best phone right now.
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It currently has the best resolution, openness of storage, good processor speed, and ram available on sprint. The 3D is an OK extra but even without it it's the best phone right now.
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does anyone really even use the 3d capabilities?
how fast is it?
The UI has no lag, if that's what you mean
hows the 3d?
It's annoying and strains your eyes, but pretty cool the first few weeks. After that, you really stop using it.
does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
Yep, no lag
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
The phone's stock clock is 1.2Ghz. The processor is meant to be at 1.5Ghz so that's the highest stable you'll go. Some phones can get up to 1.8Ghz and 1.9Ghz.
Additional Notes:
Don't get the evo 3D unless you need a new phone now. This phone is 8 months old meaning the new Evo will come out soon. Also, the GSM Evo 3D doesn't have much dev support. If you want great dev support, try the Samsung Galaxy SII.
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how fast is it?
The UI has no lag, if that's what you mean
hows the 3d?
It's annoying and strains your eyes, but pretty cool the first few weeks. After that, you really stop using it.
does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
Yep, no lag
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
The phone's stock clock is 1.2Ghz. The processor is meant to be at 1.5Ghz so that's the highest stable you'll go. Some phones can get up to 1.8Ghz and 1.9Ghz.
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Don't get the evo 3D unless you need a new phone now. This phone is 8 months old meaning the new Evo will come out soon. Also, the GSM Evo 3D doesn't have much dev support. If you want great dev support, try the Samsung Galaxy SII.
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Pretty much what this guy said.. I was going to say. So Kudos.
Get this phone if its for cheap money, otherwise get a GS2.
I wouldn't waste your upgrade on a phone that's been out for 8 months
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how fast is it?
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At stock it is meh, put a custom ROM and kernel and it is very fast and smooth.
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hows the 3d?
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Just a gimmick that youll use for a day when you first get it and to show off to people that will also get tired of it in 5 minutes
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is the 1gb or rom that restrictive? [evo 3d gsm users]
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I have CDMA, IDK if you mean the 1GB internal storage space? All ROMs install and run fine and have plenty of room left
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does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
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Never played any of those but I would imagine so. It has pretty beefy processing power and as I said before, if you put a custom ROM and kernel on it then things become VERY smooth. Benchmarks are subjective and everyone has their favorite, but some people can pull over 4000 score in Quadrant benchmark with this phone.
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Highest I have seen is just over 2GHz, but I dont think that is stable 100%. Highest known to be stable is a bit over 1.7GHz, most are completely stable around 1.5-1.6GHz range. I have my phone set up with a 2 stage OnDemand governor with a max speed of 1.4GHz
Performance from overclocking is big, especially on a custom kernel like AnthraX. That kernel has different GPU and bus speeds in it as well, and if you run between 1.4-1.6GHz you have an overclocked GPU as well as overclocked CPU. Going above that lowers GPU to stock speeds to help stability.
Performance is VERY good at stock though and you shouldnt need to OC to run anything.
Battery life is average Id say, but if you get just the right setup and tweak things just right you can get amazing battery life. I have gone over 3 days on a single charge with very light usage. On heavy usage it is like any phone and only goes about 5-6 hours.
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does anyone really even use the 3d capabilities?
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I keep kidding myself that I'll watch a 3D movie or so one of these days. So far I think I watched half of Avatar.
well thats kind of disappointing i thought this phone would have better opinions...
well then i would like that ull recommend a phone if possible id like to stay with htc... loving sense and loving build quality.. and the gsII isnt a possibility for me...
i wanted the evo 3d over the sensation xe because of the ram..
the question is... is it worth the wait and the money to wait for the next gen snapdragon s4 htc devices which will probebly be annouced at mwc in a month..
great phone fast responsive with the latest update battery life has been great for me. every game i threw at it , it played it with no lag . I think it will take some time for devs to really get a hold of the 3d thing to get that and 4g into asop roms. I found this app on htc hub called phereo thats a 3d pic sharing app thats got me hooked on the 3d side of it again lol. my stable max over clock is 1728 mhz hope this helps
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well thats kind of disappointing i thought this phone would have better opinions...
well then i would like that ull recommend a phone if possible id like to stay with htc... loving sense and loving build quality.. and the gsII isnt a possibility for me...
i wanted the evo 3d over the sensation xe because of the ram..
the question is... is it worth the wait and the money to wait for the next gen snapdragon s4 htc devices which will probebly be annouced at mwc in a month..
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I don't know what these guys are talking about. This is by far the best quality/price you could get right now. There is the Motorola Atrix 4G which is also cheap but not as good as the Evo3D. The only dark spot is the camera which is good but not as great as other phones.
Evo 3D is always on the top 5 most popular phones on XDA. so I guess deving is still ongoing. Most devs are just waiting for an ICS leak to get back. And GSM dev section has nearly all flavours: Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, AOSP (MIUI, ICS and CM) and I have no doubt that even if some builds miss one or two things, they will get mature in the near future.
Anyway, my choices would be:
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and can wait: HTC Edge.
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and cannot wait: HTC Amaze.
If you don't have money, want speed with good quality build: HTC Evo 3D.
And since I do like to use my phone (using like calling family, checking mails, feeds, etc. not like running useless benchmarks) and want it to stick around, I would never recommend a plastic phone like GSII.
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I don't know what these guys are talking about. This is by far the best quality/price you could get right now. There is the Motorola Atrix 4G which is also cheap but not as good as the Evo3D. The only dark spot is the camera which is good but not as great as other phones.
Evo 3D is always on the top 5 most popular phones on XDA. so I guess deving is still ongoing. Most devs are just waiting for an ICS leak to get back. And GSM dev section has nearly all flavours: Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, AOSP (MIUI, ICS and CM) and I have no doubt that even if some builds miss one or two things, they will get mature in the near future.
Anyway, my choices would be:
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and can wait: HTC Edge.
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and cannot wait: HTC Amaze.
If you don't have money, want speed with good quality build: HTC Evo 3D.
And since I do like to use my phone (using like calling family, checking mails, feeds, etc. not like running useless benchmarks) and want it to stick around, I would never recommend a plastic phone like GSII.
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What this guy said however I have cdma version.
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m00nhead said:
does anyone really even use the 3d capabilities?
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I actually use 3D a lot. I have watched quit a few movies, played almost all of the games and love just checking out 3D pictures. Some people complain about it but I love it. I love the phone overall. The only thing that would stop me from buying this phone, is the possibility of a quad core soon.
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Right now i have an Incredible S and fairly happy with it. Now i can get the EVO 3D for fairly cheap and was wondering is it a good for a small upgrade ? I've seen the specs and but specs aren't everything. What are your thoughts/feedback on the phone ? Read some reviews and is battery life really an issue or can that be fixed with a better ROM ?
Thanks.
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Right now i have an Incredible S and fairly happy with it. Now i can get the EVO 3D for fairly cheap and was wondering is it a good for a small upgrade ? I've seen the specs and but specs aren't everything. What are your thoughts/feedback on the phone ? Read some reviews and is battery life really an issue or can that be fixed with a better ROM ?
Thanks.
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other roms do have different battery use upon initial setup... the display has alot to do with it and if both cores are activated and running... some kernels only let the second core run " as needed" and others let it run full speed all the time keep in mind that the more background apps you have running the more battery life that will be used... so limit your start up apps and limit your core usage and you should have decent battery life....
I have tried every ICS rom that has been released thus far for the Evo 3d, but I've decided to go back to GB roms for now due to game performance being sub par on ICS in comparison. A very good example of the performance disparity is X–Men which isn't even a 3d game. The game is unplayable on every ICS rom, but it flies on most gingerbread roms depending on the kernel.
Has anyone else experienced this, or hopefully knows a kernel or mod to help this issue? I love sense 3.6/4.0, but I can't bring myself to sacrifice performance for the sake of a little extra polish.
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I have tried every ICS rom that has been released thus far for the Evo 3d, but I've decided to go back to GB roms for now due to game performance being sub par on ICS in comparison. A very good example of the performance disparity is X–Men which isn't even a 3d game. The game is unplayable on every ICS rom, but it flies on most gingerbread roms depending on the kernel.
Has anyone else experienced this, or hopefully knows a kernel or mod to help this issue? I love sense 3.6/4.0, but I can't bring myself to sacrifice performance for the sake of a little extra polish.
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I'm happy to give you your first Thanks. You 100% correct.
I am going to get severely flamed for what I'm about to say but I'm going to say it anyway.
GingerBread roms on Evo 3D blow ICS out of the water.
Ok I said it. having said that, I do really appreciate all the effort of the devs put into development of the ICS base. I hope to one day actually use an ICS rom as my final daily rom. However, I am stuck on having everything working and not just working but working superbly.
GB has been around for awhile. We had very good kernel developments and stock is not bad either. 3D is important to me. Amaze Camera was a huge upgrade to the Evo 3D camera. Pdroid is awesome. Battery fast charge is cool.
Everyone seems to be waiting for the "Official release of ICS" as though it will be the second coming of Christ, but I have a wait and see attitude towards that.
Kernel devs have moved on and so have some rom devs and lots of peeps moving onto the EVO LTE. Not sure who will stick around and how much development ICS will actually get on this device.
I say if ICS were released first, then they came out with Gingerbread with all the **** it can do, HTC Evo 3D owners would be dancing in the streets.
let the flaming begin...........
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I'm happy to give you your first Thanks. You 100% correct.
let the flaming begin...........
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You won't get any flaming from me. You have to remember that the leak has been out for a month and GB has been out for a year. Like the original stock ROM was, the original ICS leak is very raw. I almost think that HTC released it early for Virgin Mobile so that the VM customers (and us rooted users with the leak) can beta test it for them.
Having said that, the devs have been able to work magic with GB even with the stock kernel (ex: ZR3d 4.1GT absolutely flies with the stock kernel). I know some devs are either staying with the 3d for a while (like MikeyXDA with MeanROM ICS) or have promised to perfect their ICS ROM before leaving for good (like Vin and viperboy with ViperROM). Hopefully they will be able to work their magic and get the ICS ROM on par with the GB ROMs.
ICS does have some phenomenal plusses though, like screen off battery life that barely touches the battery and better sounding audio out of the box.
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You won't get any flaming from me.
I almost think that HTC released it early for Virgin Mobile so that the VM customers (and us rooted users with the leak) can beta test it for them.
ICS does have some phenomenal plusses though, like screen off battery life that barely touches the battery and better sounding audio out of the box.
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Very good comment.
Interesting theory on the leak. Yes, perhaps HTC leaked it on purpose to get a feel for what XDA devs would do with it.
I know from reading alot that the #1 advantage to ICS so far has been battery life. I have mixed feelings on this. If you play games and use the phone heavy, your battery life will suck no matter what. There are apps and tweaks you can do on GB that will improve your battery life tremendously. I guess it all depends on how much you use your phone.
Just sitting on standby with screen off, yeah I suppose ICS blows away GB on battery life. I like to put the screen at full brightness and I have a long delay before screen turns off because I find it irritating to have the screen of in 30 seconds.
I have a small stack of batteries, and keep em fully charged. Its a pain but not a big deal really to rotate the charge and swap em out when using the phone heavily. The one thing I would hate about the new EVO 4G LTE is it does NOT have a removable battery. So, if your playing a game or watching movies and the battery dies, you are dead in the water until you can get it back on a charger and then you'd have to wait a long time to bring it back up to a full charge.
The sound on ICS is better. Perhaps, but I don't think the EVO 3D comes with a great speaker. The sound is adequate for me. I didn't find Beats to be a huge improvement although I see that many on here do. I've tried different EQ settings and apps and its limited what you can with the sound.
The X-Loud patch that was done to GB greatly improved the volume problem that plagued the EVO 3D out of the box. One problem I've noted that ICS has with sound is the headphone jack. The ICS leaks sends too much voltage to it. Causes skipping and in some phones causes the phone to dial out the last number dialed. Those who don't use the headphones probably don't experience this. I don't know if this has been tackled and solved or not.
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Probably depends if your CDMA or GSM, GSM gingerbread performance blew donkey balls if you needed a full rom with everything working..ie sense enabled.
Truly is ICS better than Gingerbread in real life [on the EVO 3D]? I find myself flashing multiple ICS roms hoping to gain the smoothness of GB but I just can't find it.
I know the features ICS brings are great:
- Chrome support
- Better sleep management
- Better system/data management (cant confirm this)
- 32 bit color by default (cant confirm this)
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But one thing GB has that ICS doesn't is complete capability with our phones. We were able to make GB fly and I feel since Sprint is dragging their feet to release the update, we will have some time before ICS flies like GB. By then Jelly Bean will be running. It's a vicious cycle.
I am all for trying out new software, I love being on the bleeding edge of technology. However, for example, when playing Max Payne on ICS, the joystick would stop responding or the framerate will drop dramatically. That never happened on GB.
So my question is, whats your reason for running ICS on your EVO 3D? It is because its the latest and greatest or is there a certain feature I am missing? Because I am starting not to see a benefit.
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I run it because I'm yet to have 1 problem that's not a known ics general issue.
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For cdma phones yes, the 2.17 base was an excelent base for GB roms. Us poor GSM users had a crap base which when even overclocked was probably still slower than the current ICS.. for example low 2000 quadrants and 24fps nenamark
I just wish there was a way to use the 2.17 base roms on GSM, I would certainly use it. :good:
ICS runs fine on my phone. And I'm easily getting at least 24 hours per battery, as opposed to 12 hours with GB.
ICS definitely has better battery management. However, for me personally, I don't mind having less battery with more performance since I have multiple batteries I can just swap out. A perfect balance is what I look to achieve. ICS beats GB in terms of battery life but I have to give the best performance title to GB.
Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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There hasn't been an official ICS release? (For CDMA at least). Generally its been a 90 day or so time frame for source release. We should see GSM source in the next couple of months. While HTC isn't the fastest at releasing they haven't ever failed to release source that I'm aware of.
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Again this is for the GSM version, it may not be true for CDMA phones as i doubt you have one to compare...
I myself believe the fact that their phones run worse on ICS then ours because the same thing was happening to us on GB...
I think for me gb gave me problems with youtube....always skipping in the middle. But going to ics has fixed that. Everything is smoother. Battery life to me isn't much of a problem since I have about two extra batteries.
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ICS runs way better than GB did. side by side comparisons of Eternity 1.4.2 vs inbREDed 5.2 verify that for me in an instant.
apps load faster, menus react quicker, etc. I'll never go back to GB and can't wait for an Anthrax kernel for this.
I do wish that the Sense 4 ROM's had 3D and 4G though, because those things run really, really nice.. *sigh*
Interesting feedback, thank you everyone. This is definitely "food for thought".
Whats your feedback on game performance? I usually find myself playing one of the Rockstar or Gameloft games I have purchased and I feel ICS framerates drops much more than GBs.
I feel that since GB's kernel source has been released, devs were able to tweak it for maximum performance under heavy load vs a stock kernel which would be somewhat conservative on performance.
And yes I do have a CDMA version but input from GSM users are welcomed.
Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
I really wish we had a stable build of CM7 for CDMA to play with, htc holding the source on ICS kernels has made the ICS dev basically come to a crawl and it saddens me lol... My old Evo4G had a new ROM out everyday it seemed and IMO CM9 was more stable there than on the 3D. Nothing against the wonderful devs here as it's not their fault htc is being stingy with source.
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
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Many who use cm9 will lol
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Do not compair roms just on benchmarks... ICS is waaaayy better than gb even without overclocking. Solo many more features in ICS made it impossible for me to go back to GB
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I don't actually have an evo, but I've been using an HTC hd2 for a long time, until yesterday.
I was running the latest ics version mostly just to be on the bleeding edge of technology. Their were a few things I really liked more and reasons I wanted to run it because of, but mostly i wanted ics because it was new.
We also had gingerbread roms that were blazing fast and worked almost perfectly. In all honesty they were amazing.
Then ics came along. Many of the drivers were not there for our device and the devs start working like crazy to fix them or write them, just whatever needed to be done.
However even to this day ics does not run as well as gb did. It is very stable, not a lot of fc's but it still has some. In reality its just not yet the same quality gb was.
I think that until HTC releases the kernal source like for the evo and other phones that ics will not run as good as gb. In no way is this in offense to the devs. I just know that its hard to match a companies time and man power when your doing something for free.
In short, unless their is a lot of official support I do not think ics runs as well as gb either.
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