I guess the U in usb isn't so universal, found out today that you HAVE TO use the cable with the (v-cast sticker) in order to transfer data and any other cable INCLUDING the ones they sell at the V store will only charge the phone.
Ford_Tech said:
I guess the U in usb isn't so universal, found out today that you HAVE TO use the cable with the (v-cast sticker) in order to transfer data and any other cable INCLUDING the ones they sell at the V store will only charge the phone.
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Not true. Mine has no vcast or Motorola branding and transfers my stuff just fine.
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None of the cables I had would work including 2 that vz store sold me, perhaps it's a quality issue but using the vcast cable works fine.
Any micro USB cable works just fine for data transfer and such. I use my old blackberry USB cords all the time to do data transfers with no problems at all
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kimo91 said:
Any micro USB cable works just fine for data transfer
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I thought so as well but apparently in my phones case not so, I even tried my wifes LG phone cable and it wouldn't work either.
Ford_Tech said:
I thought so as well but apparently in my phones case not so, I even tried my wifes LG phone cable and it wouldn't work either.
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Maybe the USB port?
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Turn on mass storage?
Any micro USB cable will work.
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Turn on mass storage?
Any micro USB cable will work.
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+1 for this, maybe u set it charge only....
I using western digital hardisk cable and it works fine, also use nokia usb cable
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I thought so as well but apparently in my phones case not so, I even tried my wifes LG phone cable and it wouldn't work either.
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The LG cable from my work Epic 4g doesn't work on my Razr. The HTC cable, blackberry cable, and Motorola cables all work fine. I did have to restart the phone to get the cables to work after I tried to use the LG cable.
LG cables are known to suck, avoid them like the plague.
I've just been using any old cables I've had lying round, at least 3 different brands, lengths etc, no problems at all.
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The LG cable from my work Epic 4g doesn't work on my Razr. The HTC cable, blackberry cable, and Motorola cables all work fine. I did have to restart the phone to get the cables to work after I tried to use the LG cable.
LG cables are known to suck, avoid them like the plague.
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In fact I'm using my daughters old LG cord for both charging and data swapping on my Razr. Have you checked your cords maybe it has some corrosion in the micro part that's causing your issues?
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This is known issue with Motorola phones having to use certain micro USB cables. Not all will work on a cellbrite machine or for data transfer. Not every USB cable is the same. I am not sure the technical reason for it, but BB cables do not work. For what it is worth BB uses USB A to micro USB "B" cables.
The easiest way to tell if the cable will support debugging mode. The charge only cables will not trigger the debugging mode in the status bar.
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I guess the U in usb isn't so universal, found out today that you HAVE TO use the cable with the (v-cast sticker) in order to transfer data and any other cable INCLUDING the ones they sell at the V store will only charge the phone.
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Completely untrue. I have never unpacked my Razr's charge/USB cable. It is still in its box. I use the USB cable from my first-generation B&N Nook to charge and transfer data. I sideloaded over 20 gb of data onto my card with it and use USB tether with it.
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kimo91 said:
Any micro USB cable works just fine for data transfer and such. I use my old blackberry USB cords all the time to do data transfers with no problems at all
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This is known issue with Motorola phones having to use certain micro USB cables. Not all will work on a cellbrite machine or for data transfer. Not every USB cable is the same. I am not sure the technical reason for it, but BB cables do not work. For what it is worth BB uses USB A to micro USB "B" cables.
The easiest way to tell if the cable will support debugging mode. The charge only cables will not trigger the debugging mode in the status bar.
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well according to the quote above, BB cables do work.
And ive been charging my Razr on my BB Tour cable just fine all day.
OK some Blackberry cables do not work. This isn't even a debate. Just Google. There are several articles on this that go into what causes it. Most micro USB cables do work just fine. So don't say that "well I used these hand full of cables" so I'm going to pass that off as scientific proof that you must have a defective phone.
What idiot would pull a random cable have it work and say well that proves they all work?
It's mostly a problem with Motorola phones and some HTC. It has something to do with the amps (or something) the phone needs out of the cable. While all micro USB cables have the same number of pins, apparently not all have the same number of wires connecting all the pins. This is what I have read, I have not actually stripped a cable to find out.
I do have daily experience transferring data through all kinds of phones and we have a couple of cables that will not work on the Droid 3, X2, Bionic, or Razr. They are not defective cables because they do work on some other phones.
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I guess the U in usb isn't so universal, found out today that you HAVE TO use the cable with the (v-cast sticker) in order to transfer data and any other cable INCLUDING the ones they sell at the V store will only charge the phone.
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What are you talking about? I have never used the vzn usb cable they are too short. I think there is some user error here.
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OK some Blackberry cables do not work. This isn't even a debate. Just Google. There are several articles on this that go into what causes it. Most micro USB cables do work just fine. So don't say that "well I used these hand full of cables" so I'm going to pass that off as scientific proof that you must have a defective phone.
What idiot would pull a random cable have it work and say well that proves they all work?
It's mostly a problem with Motorola phones and some HTC. It has something to do with the amps (or something) the phone needs out of the cable. While all micro USB cables have the same number of pins, apparently not all have the same number of wires connecting all the pins. This is what I have read, I have not actually stripped a cable to find out.
I do have daily experience transferring data through all kinds of phones and we have a couple of cables that will not work on the Droid 3, X2, Bionic, or Razr. They are not defective cables because they do work on some other phones.
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I never said that all BB cables or USB cables work.
In your post I first quoted you said BB cables don't work, implying that they all don't work.
The same guy posted the same incorrect information on android forums.com....
Stop wasting money on cables from the verizon store.
No problem here either, I've used cables as different as
2 metre könig usb cable with fake gold plating (really cheap brand)
0,7 metre cheap plastic cable I found in a box at work
The two original moto cables
A hair thin samsung original cable
If you're on a laptop, that's probably your problem. Or your front USB if it's a desktop.
I too have used numerous MicroUSB cables without any issues.
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I just received these a few days ago and they work great. I have purchased a motorola one and another ebay one last year but both of them when I plug into my Evo 4g or Ev3d I have to move it around to charge. These have longer and more solid micro connector and I don't have to move them around at all. I bought 10 of them and all 10 work great. The only thing I don't like over the previous ones is that it doesnt have a string or rubber band to tie it to an existing mini usb chargers or sync cables.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130530521149&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Any questions on them let me know.
Why even deal with these? Just get new micro usb cords from monoprice.
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Why even deal with these? Just get new micro usb cords from monoprice.
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Because I have multiple AC chargers for my older phones that I can use at home and work to charge my Evo. Also being able to reuse my older car chargers is a plus. at $1 a pop it only makes sense to reuse those chargers rather than buying new ones. PLUS you can take the adapters out and it goes right back to a mini connector. Just in case you have other devices that still uses mini usb. Not everything is micro usb yet. And specially great if you have good quality chargers you can reuse than buy cheap chargers with cheap circuitry.
100% agree. Monoprice has these go on sale all the time for like $1 or $2 for a 3 pack so i buy them every time. I have tons of mini usb stuff from older phones, no need to buy all new chargers and you have the option of using it for multiple devices (mini/micro).
It also comes in really handy for PC's, i have a mini USB cable connected to my PC that just sits under my monitor for when i need to connect USB hard drives or any other sort of devices and then i just attach the micro adapter if i want to connect any micro devices.
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100% agree. Monoprice has these go on sale all the time for like $1 or $2 for a 3 pack so i buy them every time. I have tons of mini usb stuff from older phones, no need to buy all new chargers and you have the option of using it for multiple devices (mini/micro).
It also comes in really handy for PC's, i have a mini USB cable connected to my PC that just sits under my monitor for when i need to connect USB hard drives or any other sort of devices and then i just attach the micro adapter if i want to connect any micro devices.
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Is the monoprice ones better? I know I bought a motorola one and a few ebay and some i think at daydeal but all of them the micro usb connectors were junk. Had a hard time keeping my phone charged up when I move it around.
I too have mini usb cables on all my pcs home and work along with wall chargers. You never know when you'll run out of battery power specially for us whos always flashing roms. lol.
I have 4 different micro usb to usb cables and though they all charge the phone, only the cable that came with the phone will establish a data connection with my laptops/desktops and with kies (not air) on these computers.
i have searched and read but not found any information on this. if the cable is not proprietary to the phone, any idea why this would be happening?
btw, I have also tried usb to micro usb gender changers on many existing usb cables and the same problem exists...only the cable that came in the box will establish usable data transfer connections.
sorry if this has been asked and answered before, i cannot find it. if so, a referral link will be greatly appreciated.
thanks all
Marty (ddd22)
Really? I have 3 from my old HTC phones, and 2 from my Amazon Kindle and all 5 work just fine to charge (from wall or computer), and establish data connection (from computer).
I will say on my iMac I had issues because the type of internal powered USB Apple went with on the 2009-2011 iMacs, some models have data communications issues and the only way around it is to use a different computer with a non powered usb hub internally. Seems any other macs they offer besides this particular model work fine as I have no issues w\ my MacBook Air 2011 or my Mac Mini 2011
yep... really. and that is on three different laptops and two different desktops.... all running windows 7 ultimate or professional (and one windows 8 developer preview). also i have bypassed powered hubs to test... still only the significantly heavier samsung cable the only one to work. btw, thanks for your uber quick reply
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yep... really. and that is on three different laptops and two different desktops.... all running windows 7 ultimate or professional (and one windows 8 developer preview). also i have bypassed powered hubs to test... still only the significantly heavier samsung cable the only one to work. btw, thanks for your uber quick reply
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I'm wondering if your phone might have a bent pin or jenky config setting in the software somehow, that's just so strange.
If you plug in the non-sammy cable into the wall charger, does it charge?
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yep... really. and that is on three different laptops and two different desktops.... all running windows 7 ultimate or professional (and one windows 8 developer preview). also i have bypassed powered hubs to test... still only the significantly heavier samsung cable the only one to work. btw, thanks for your uber quick reply
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And it probably goes without saying, but are you going into wireless, usb, data connection and enabling it before plugging in? You're on stock rooted I assume? Have you tried any other ROM to see if maybe it's something in your existing ROM that is messed up?
I'd be annoyed too, cause I travel weekly and leave 1 cable home, carry one in my laptop bag, and one in the bag that goes in the overhead bin in my roller-board. If I had to buy 3 samsung branded cables I'd be pissoff'ed hehe
yes the sammy cable charges from the wall.
the sammy cable makes a connection whether or not i enable usb before i plug it in or not.
when i preactivate the usb connect with the sammy cable i get the android usb connected screen. when I do it with any other cable i get a message that says: "attention, usb is connected, remove the cable" uber confused
any i am stock. havent yet rooted.
I've had this problem with my captivate. My friend gave me a micro USB that didn't make a data connection but charged my phone. and what I learned was the cable came from a third party vendor and just doesn't establish data because of the type of cable. If it comes for a phone (used HTC cable to flash my cappy) or some type of other device that needs data it will work. third party cables just charge from what I learned.
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I use the cable from my old Nokia and it charges as well as transfers files to my SGS 2.
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After 3 hrs on the phone with att customer ser, tech support, and the warranty dept (2x) the best anyone came up with was, as u said, notall micro usb ard the same. I found an adapter that may hhave come with phone (female full usb to micro) that worked with a regularlarge usb double ended cable, that also worked, this is most likely a cable problem. What I need to find is a reliable source of data friemdly usb to micro cables. thanks for your reply
Why would HTC not put a standard micro usb port on this phone? I didn't realize until i had the phone at home or i may not have bought it. I have several useless cables now. Love the phone, Hate the charging port!
Most phones are geared for standard micro USB now. My moto miscro usb charger works on the Rezound, and so pretty much every cable I own does. So your problem is?
I never even tried to use one of my old chargers. the one that comes with the phone has that weird slit and looks totally different. i just assumed that they were different. I will have to try it out.
Havn't gotten my Rezound yet, but if it's anything like the Touch Pro 2. The stock adapter provides 1A of power and has a notch in it to prevent you from using that charger on anything unworthy.
Any Micro USB will work
I have a Touch Pro 2 and it took me 2 years to realize I could use a standard Mini-USB cable with it. I repaired and rebuilt my original USB cable when I could have just used one of the hundreds of regular ones lying around.
Point: I brought a standard micro-usb cable to the VZW store and made sure it worked in the Rezound before I bought it. It fits perfectly.
IMO HTC makes these ports this way so they can sell the HDMI adapter and other accessories and since they hold the patent on the plug shape they wont have any competition and it will be very difficult for hackers to reengineer a standard cable.
I hope this helps,
Dan
Why can people not search? This has been discussed. It is an mhl port. Your microusb chargers will work fine. And to the person who suggested patents, run a Google search. It isn't a proprietary HTC plug. The galaxy s II has the same port. Monoprice sells an adapter for $10. It is easy for companies to make 3rd party cables.
cveez11 said:
I never even tried to use one of my old chargers. the one that comes with the phone has that weird slit and looks totally different. i just assumed that they were different. I will have to try it out.
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I hope it works for you!
IMHO this MHL situation ROCKS. Micro USB is so fragile. In fact, my wife's DINC's port is all slutted out and barely works anymore. This MHL connector is longer and tougher than Micro USB and you get a solid 'click' when you insert the connector. Seems much more solid and reliable than any other design I've seen yet. Backwards compat with Micro USB is just icing.
-M
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In fact, my wife's DINC's port is all slutted out and barely works anymore.
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Quote of the week right there lol.
ROFLMAO
10 char
I thought the same thing until I just tried my old charger and it works fine.
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I knew it was micro USB compatible instantly. My old Incredible has the same port
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Why can people not search? This has been discussed. It is an mhl port. Your microusb chargers will work fine. And to the person who suggested patents, run a Google search. It isn't a proprietary HTC plug. The galaxy s II has the same port. Monoprice sells an adapter for $10. It is easy for companies to make 3rd party cables.
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I love Monoprice.
Hi All,
I ended up purchasing the Rezond based on the previous feedback, but I'm still in the test-drive phase. I'm really enjoying the phone so far and so far I'm thinking "keep". The included headphones are really great also compared to my previous headphones! I'll be waiting at least another week before I decide to keep the phone and decide to put a better ROM on the phone.
Anyway, what's the deal with the charge cable? Standard Micro-USB fits fine, but what's up with the funky cable that came with the device? Will this cause any problems using a longer standard cable or will it cause the phone to charge slower? Does this cable need to be used for proper connection to a PC?
Custom cables always make me leery.
Sorry if this has been asked, searching for custom usb, charge cable, custom cable did not return an results.
Its actually not a custom cable. It is a MHL adapter. Lots of talk about it in the Accessories forum.
Basically one port for charging and HDMI out instead of two separate ports.
You can charge fine with a regular micro usb cable, I don't think it's slower but I've never timed it.
If you want to get more like the ones that came with the phone you can get the HTC Flyer cables in white here:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
I bought two of them since I like the secure feeling of the snap in.
I've never tried using a regular micro usb for data and don't have one within arm's reach and I'm really super comfy right now so I'm not going to get up but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
In the accessories forum try searching "mhl cable" and I think you'll come up with two threads about it if you want further info.
I am using a blackberry (micro USB) cable at work, and the OEM cable at home, I see no different in charge time or PC connectivity between the 2 cable.
I also use a blackberry AC adapter to charge the rezound when I am in a pinch.
HTH.
Thanks.
I figured any standard micro-usb cable will work. A MHL cable makes sense though, I've just never actually seen one and I'm not familiar with the form factor.
I'll be looking into this, thank you again.
"MHL" A Lot More Solid
The MHL cable feels a lot more solid than a micro USB. I have a couple micro usb that have gotten loose, and now just fall out of the phone if turned over, or if I hit a bump in the car. Thanks for finding a source to buy more of the MHL cables.
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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How long are those cables? Doesn't say on the page; unless I'm blind.
There is no such thing as an "MHL cable".
The format of the port and cable that come with the Rezound is called "EXTMicro USB".
"MHL" refers to a standard for connecting small electronics to HDTVs. It works with a regular Micro USB cable. Last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) there are no MHL adapters that utilize EXTMicro USB connectors. Most of the ones that I've found use a regular Micro USB connector.
At this time, it's unclear exactly what the extra 7 pins in the connector in this phone are for. Other HTC phones have used them for analog audio and video output, but this doesn't appear to be supported by the rezound.
If you look at your rezound, you will see it only has the 5 pins. It does utilize the ExtMicro USB plug end/shape. If it truly had the ExtMico USB then while using the mhl adapter it could charge your phone via A/C while streaming. But it can't because the data pins are being used/ there are only 5 pins.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
Prefader said:
That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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You are right the phone has it, the does not cable. That is my mistake. I knew one of them didn't just was too lazy to check.
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So I had a USB OTG cable from Motorola, it works on my Xoom, but when I try to use it on my (Sprint) SGSIII, nothing happens. I don't get any "USB Connected" messages, I don't get any prompts to mount anything, and My Files doesn't show any new devices. I've tried the cable with two different flash drives, a camera, a camcorder, and a hard drive. All of them work on the Xoom, but none work on the SGSIII. I am rooted and have a custom recovery, but everything else is stock. I downloaded USB Host Diagnostics, and it says that the phone claims it should work (Kernel, Android API, Rooted API all claim support, but no device detected). I don't know if its that the Motorola cable is unique to the Xoom, or if it is just slightly different on the Xoom such that it doesn't work with Samsung's new connector. I don't have any other OTG hosts to test the cable with. Is there any way, without flashing a new kernel (just got my phone up and running, OTG would be nice but not worth the trouble of reinstalling everything, esp if it isn't going to work), to get the OTG working?
Thanks!
You must use a samsung otg cable duh
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You must use a samsung otg cable duh
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That's not true. I have a cable that works with my Sprint SGS3 and I'm sure it's not a samsung cable.
@OP: This is also with the stock kernel so the support is there.
Hmmm, yeah I've been looking everywhere to see what's wrong, but all I get is that it should just work. My guess is either my phone is broken, or the OTG cable I have is just slightly different and the phone doesn't recognize it, but the Xoom does cuz it was made with the Xoom in mind. Can someone suggest a cheap OTG cable that you know works on the SGSIII? Thanks!
i got mine from buy.com for like 4 dollars shipped came from Cali got here in 2 days :highfive:
Had that problem but then I pushed it all the way in until it clicked, thought it was in before but it wasn't it should click when it's in.
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Ashunte said:
Had that problem but then I pushed it all the way in until it clicked, thought it was in before but it wasn't it should click when it's in.
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Its definitely all the way in, the plastic casing of the cable is flush with the bottom of the phone. No luck =(
Just bought a cheap one from Amazon that qualified for prime 2 day shipping that I ordered along with my SanDisk 64GB card. Worked fine on the thumbdrive drive I tested. It fits in real tight though, I'm going to file down the two tings so it's easier to unplug.
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Hmmm, yeah I've been looking everywhere to see what's wrong, but all I get is that it should just work. My guess is either my phone is broken, or the OTG cable I have is just slightly different and the phone doesn't recognize it, but the Xoom does cuz it was made with the Xoom in mind. Can someone suggest a cheap OTG cable that you know works on the SGSIII? Thanks!
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I have a home made one that works on my coworkers xoom and my s3.
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the Ebay one I bought!
This:http://www.ebay.com/itm/160770945683?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
There is no "samsung" or "moto" OTG cable, Its either wired right or not. Micro USB has 5 pins, not 4 like normal USB. The extra pin is what determines if its an OTG cable, a "factory" cable, and so forth and with OTG, that pin is wired to ground. I have a handful of $3 OTG cheapo adapters that work with everything I have thrown at them with my S3 and that includes class complaint, bus powered 5 in 5 out midi interfaces so unless the sprint device is horribly crippled in this regard, I'd say OTG works like a champ on the S3
personally, i bought a few of these: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B005QX7KYU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
just tested them with a whole range of devices (mouse, keyboard, usb drives, an ipod, another s3, a ps3 remote, a dslr) and works flawlessly
It was the Moto cable
So I had to go exchange my S3, there was dust on the camera sensor, and the Moto OTG cable didn't work on the replacement. I got one of the cheap amazon OTG cables, and lo and behold it works now. The Moto one works on the Xoom with no issue, as does the generic one I bought, but only the generic works on the S3. My guess is Moto did something slightly different with their cable, maybe used a pull-down resistor on the sense pin instead of shorting it to ground or just something that causes the S3 not to recognize it.