So far here are the options for VOIP on the YP-G70:
Groove IP + Google Voice- Which is what I've tried so far. Voice quality is kind of poor.
sipdroid or csipsimple + Google Voice + PBXes.com - Apparently this has better voice quality?
Talkatone (Iphone equivalent to Groove IP) currently being ported to Android - Alpha 3
Skype - but I read somewhere you can't use Skype over wifi??? Maybe the person who posted that didn't know what they were talking about???
Any thoughts, opinions, ideas on How to or what software works best would be appreciated.
But what I'm really having a difficult time with is security. Using a wifi phone in a public hotspot has obvious security issues so you need a VPN. But just as important is using Google Voice without a VPN. It's basically the same thing as CarrierIQ - Google is tracking everything you do and also tracking WHERE you log in from. So a VPN is a must. To make matters even more difficult if you do get a VPN you have no idea whether the VPN provider is tracking you or might steal your login info from every site you log into via the VPN.
I've been researching this VPN thing for weeks and still don't have a good solution. So if anyone out there has any advice it would be GREATLY appreciated!!
I use GrooveIP (not much, but works fine). I have secure wifi at home and work, so not concerned about security. Talkatone could be good once fully ported, too many ui issues for me, seems restrictive.
I also use grove ip and found it works pretty well once you get the settings just right. I had to turn up the microphone gain several clicks and checked the echo control option in the debug or trouble shooting menu.
I use csipsimple rather than sipdroid, as I found the former integrates better with the stock rom. Actually, sipdroid doesn't seem to have a dialer and depends on dialer.apk which is just a dud application in stock rom. Pbxes-gv works fine. Voice quality is better than my G2 on Wind. Wifi needs to be on to stay registered. My battery life is several days standby with wifi off, but drops to about 6 hours with it on and about 40 minutes of calls.
With my spa-3102 I have an easy bridge to landline, so you could do it that way instead. This requires pbx server and a decent amount of config to get working, but csipsimple-pbxes-gv is a perfect standalone solution!
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Got these settings for GrooveIP over at another forum, I changed mine these and works very well:
Allow 3G/4G Calling - unchecked (no cell radio on G70)
Accept calls on answer - checked (personal pref)
Native Dialer Options - Ignored this sub menu (no native dialer present)
Audio/Echo Settings:
Echo Cancellation:
Echo Cancellation - checked
Post processing - unchecked
Echo Tail - 0 ms - 200 ms
Speaker Volume - (3)
Microphone Gain - (1)
Ringtone Override - pick one you like
Use Contact Ringtones - Checked (personal pref)
DTMF Feedback - Unchecked
Troubleshooting:
Keep Screen On - Unchecked
Accept Call Time - (9)
Audio Processing - Unchecked
WiFi Tablet - Unchecked
Synchronize Voice - Unchecked
Audio Mode Fallback - Unchecked
Audio Routing - Unchecked
Mic Buffer - Medium
Mic Source - Auto
Partial Wake Lock - Unchecked
High Perf WiFi Lock - Unchecked
Override STUN Server - Unchecked
Mrktmind said:
So far here are the options for VOIP on the YP-G70:
Skype - but I read somewhere you can't use Skype over wifi??? Maybe the person who posted that didn't know what they were talking about???
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Skype works very well on my YP-G70. Since I have subscribed to a Skype online number, I can place/receive calls just like a regular phone.
Going to have to try Skype.
The lag is so bad on Groove IP / Google Voice that I end up talking over the top of the other person all of the time. Plus you can't do MMS on GV. And the GV SMS Android app is pretty limited - shows the data of a text message but not the time. And you can't use Google's video chat - we've got the dual camera's would be nice to use them - or at least try them out.
We'll see if Skype does any better.
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Going to have to try Skype.
The lag is so bad on Groove IP / Google Voice that I end up talking over the top of the other person all of the time. Plus you can't do MMS on GV. And the GV SMS Android app is pretty limited - shows the data of a text message but not the time. And you can't use Google's video chat - we've got the dual camera's would be nice to use them - or at least try them out.
We'll see if Skype does any better.
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You might have a bad internet connection. Google Voice has worked perfectly for me the past few weeks, no lag (once settings for lag were adjusted) and each call is very smooth. Your right about GV having no MMS, which is sad that that doesn't exist. And it shows the date AND time of the texts for me, not too sure why your not able to see that.
And as for the dual cameras... I don't know if you knew this, but from what I've read- The front camera ONLY takes VGA pictures, no video recording possible (so no video chat? I hope I'm wrong).
I've used my GP5 with Skype for video chat, and the girlfriend said the quality was better than my laptop's camera... so I can confirm that the front camera does indeed support video.
The perfect solution if you got a SIP account, is CSipSimple. It's working great whenever you can connect to Wifi. I even used it to call for free when I was abroad.
stock sip for gb
im sure gingerbread supports sip natively its just a matter of copying some files/framework and enabling it from the rom just like in galaxy note with gingerbread of course. the problem seems to be that sgp 5.0 doesnt attract much devs unlike other popular devices im also interested in this feature
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Skype works very well on my YP-G70. Since I have subscribed to a Skype online number, I can place/receive calls just like a regular phone.
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It's odd, on my 4.0, the earpiece doesn't work with the latest version of Skype. I cover the proximity sensor and it turns the screen off but continues sending sound through the speakers. I have found if I use several versions older, it works, and if I use a moded version from xda, and enable an option, it works.
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Mrktmind said:
So far here are the options for VOIP on the YP-G70:
Groove IP + Google Voice- Which is what I've tried so far. Voice quality is kind of poor.
sipdroid or csipsimple + Google Voice + PBXes.com - Apparently this has better voice quality?
Talkatone (Iphone equivalent to Groove IP) currently being ported to Android - Alpha 3
Skype - but I read somewhere you can't use Skype over wifi??? Maybe the person who posted that didn't know what they were talking about???
Any thoughts, opinions, ideas on How to or what software works best would be appreciated.
But what I'm really having a difficult time with is security. Using a wifi phone in a public hotspot has obvious security issues so you need a VPN. But just as important is using Google Voice without a VPN. It's basically the same thing as CarrierIQ - Google is tracking everything you do and also tracking WHERE you log in from. So a VPN is a must. To make matters even more difficult if you do get a VPN you have no idea whether the VPN provider is tracking you or might steal your login info from every site you log into via the VPN.
I've been researching this VPN thing for weeks and still don't have a good solution. So if anyone out there has any advice it would be GREATLY appreciated!!
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Google Voice is not compatible with YP-G70
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Google Voice is not compatible with YP-G70
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Who told you that? I've used it for almost a year on my player. You can't call from within the app, but of course the OP already said that. And the answers here are the same as the other thread (which I answered first). The OP is correct.
jamaljan said:
Google Voice is not compatible with YP-G70
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Did you change your DPI?
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Who told you that? I've used it for almost a year on my player. You can't call from within the app, but of course the OP already said that. And the answers here are the same as the other thread (which I answered first). The OP is correct.
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This app is incompatible with your Samsung YP-G70.
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iurnait said:
Did you change your DPI?
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hmm? not sure that is DPI ?
I installed Google Voice through the Play store on my YP-G70 and I use it by itself for texting and use it with Talkatone for VOIP calling with no problems at all. I can't figure out how to pair my Bluetooth headset but that is a completely separate issue...
Mrktmind said:
Going to have to try Skype.
The lag is so bad on Groove IP / Google Voice that I end up talking over the top of the other person all of the time. Plus you can't do MMS on GV. And the GV SMS Android app is pretty limited - shows the data of a text message but not the time. And you can't use Google's video chat - we've got the dual camera's would be nice to use them - or at least try them out.
We'll see if Skype does any better.
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It's most likely your internet connection. GrooveIP mostly lags when an internet connection is slow or not strong, and also call quality depends on that as well. For me I have a very strong connection at home and it never lags and call quality is pretty good. Now at college since wifi is spotty it doesn't lag but call quality is a bit worse.
Remember with Skype to call a mobile/landline number you have to purchase minutes. I bought the $35 a year plan, and it works fine but you still can't text people because it uses your skype credit. Also if you want people to be able to call the player or answer calls through skype you wiill have to buy a "skype number" and that cost an additional $60. I didn't get the number, but I used a workaround. What I did was register for textplus (you can still use a google voice number but still have to have Google Voice installed) and they give you a number for free. Then I went to skype and set my caller id to the textplus/google voice number so that it'll ring the player through textplus/grooveiP and give people a number to call. Problem is you can't pick up using skype and will have to wait to call them back afterwards lol.
To me GrooveIP/ Google voice is the best option for our place. I tried talkatone but the free version's quality is worse than grooveIPs and you have to pay to unlock higher quality. I haven't tried to other one. I hope this helps.
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jamaljan said:
Google Voice is not compatible with YP-G70
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It's compatible with mine even before root. You can just side load it too haha.
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theswimmingbird said:
I've used my GP5 with Skype for video chat, and the girlfriend said the quality was better than my laptop's camera... so I can confirm that the front camera does indeed support video.
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True. But I use the rear camera for skype and it's way better than my laptop webcam haha.
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First off I have to say Im a proud member of the best phone produced (till today), Htc Hero. Everything looks and feels and fullfills my needs accordingly, besides one thing. And this one thing bugs me alot.
Why have skype launched this "lite" crap, with no real voip at all? And that on a internett phone... Something is not right at the skype department!
Because of my personal situation Im dependent on skype voip services (the only reason why im not throwing my htc touch cruise away). So heres the request: make my (love)life a bit easier, bite the skype developers in the arse and/or help porting/create a skype client for android that can make full use of voip.
I hope some developers here will take the job and get the well earned fame that will come with it!
ps: I do know that there are some alternatives, google voice is not for europe yet and truphone is crashing at the opening.
sipdroid is true VoIP, SIP-based. It will work with a wide variety of hardware and software IP phones.
Volker1 said:
sipdroid is true VoIP, SIP-based. It will work with a wide variety of hardware and software IP phones.
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Hey, from what I can tell this doesnt work with skype, is this the case or am I just being blonde?
Cheers
Dan
I think skype didn't do a full VOIP application otherwise it will literally chew through many bytes of your data plan and thus would be very expensive for the end user on a mobile network - obviously wifi and skype wouldn't be a such a problem.
I am guessing and assuming that "skype lite" works the similar way to iSkoot (Winmo equivalent) where it uses the voice channel (and some jiggery-pokery) to make a call to another skype user - which to my knowledge is how the 3 network is able to offer unlimited skype calls (using iSkoot, not sure about skype lite but if anyone knows, let me know!)
If skype is listening, perhaps an option in "skype lite" application to specify how the voice is carried out (ie via data channel or the voice channel) might be a good idea.
But feel free to correct me on that!
ps, did anyone see the comments made on skype lite on the market place (by Mattman 9-aug-2009) saying that skype lite appears to be a "phishing app scanning for paid skype accounts and should be reported to google and ftc" - is that true?
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Hey, from what I can tell this doesnt work with skype, is this the case or am I just being blonde?
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It doesn't work with skype since skype is a proprietary app that works with nothing else. Though there is a workaround, gizmo5 has a SIP<->skype gateway. Never tried it, though.
tweedie said:
I am guessing and assuming that "skype lite" works the similar way to iSkoot (Winmo equivalent) where it uses the voice channel (and some jiggery-pokery) to make a call to another skype user - which to my knowledge is how the 3 network is able to offer unlimited skype calls (using iSkoot, not sure about skype lite but if anyone knows, let me know!)
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Essentially, when you initiate a call with Skype Lite, what it does is communicate back to Skype servers on the data channel with details of whom you want to contact (Skype username, phone number etc). The Skype servers then set up a link from a local phone number to your required destination, and send this number back to your phone which Skype Lite then dials.
So your phone essentially calls a Skype phone number over the standard voice channels (and usually consuming your inclusive minutes), and this call is routed over the Skype network to your required destination.
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Dave
So your phone essentially calls a Skype phone number over the standard voice channels (and usually consuming your inclusive minutes), and this call is routed over the Skype network to your required destination.
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foxmeister > that is exactly what I am thinking. The "skype lite" software is calling a special number over voice channel and its routed over the skype network to the required destination as you said. I think this is identical to how "iSkoot" works and thus the "three" network users can get free unlimited skype-to-skype calls because it identifies a particular number its calling to be free.
If the "skype lite" and "iSkoot" is calling the same special number, It should in theory be able to get the free unlimited skype-to-skype calls using the "skype lite" application. I guess there is only one way to find out! There does seems to be iSkoot application for android but can't seem to be able to find it on the market place!
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=343121&pid=1815881&st=0&#entry1815881
Bump that thread
it was a request i made for this same exact thing on the skype forums.
They would be the ones to publish the app.
Skype, iSkoot and three.co.uk
After finally disassembling the code, there is a hidden easter egg on the "about" screen for the iskoot application. If your lucky to have the G1 phone, type in @1905 and it will bring up the advance menu where you can specify to use the three network.
If you're unlucky to have the htc hero (like me!), you have to use the window dos command "adb shell" to connect to the phone, then do "/system/bin/input text @1905" and allow you to enter that key on the about screen.
Its not perfect. But it seems to make a call to the uk three number (+44..882 + +44..874).
Once in the advance menu, put http://mobile.three.co.uk/948 into the url (using keyboard, or use that "input text" command) and save it (I can't remember if I had to tick the "Auto Pilot Mode" on or off, but try with it off first)
It will take a little time to sign in (or even a couple of attempts) you should get your buddy list and able to make a call
By the way, don't have it use the wifi. It seems better to have it sign in via 3g, but I could be wrong. And second, there is an awful lot of http 404 response errors coming back from three network (doesn't seem to effect it), but neverless, its just putting a strain on your phone I would imagine - plus, not sure if those 404 http responses coming back will use up your data allowance. so do some testing first! Its just a little difficult to test properly when all the other apps wants to use you internet data allowance! (is there an app for that?)
Anyway, just letting you know what i have found. if those HTTP 404 is gonna be a problem, I can tweak the code, but probably won't be able to share that apk file as I am not sure where the law stands on that!
Warning: Haven't fully tested it yet, so don't blame/slag me if its starts to eat into your credits!
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After finally disassembling the code, there is a hidden easter egg on the "about" screen for the iskoot application. If your lucky to have the G1 phone, type in @1905 and it will bring up the advance menu where you can specify to use the three network.
If you're unlucky to have the htc hero (like me!), you have to use the window dos command "adb shell" to connect to the phone, then do "/system/bin/input text @1905" and allow you to enter that key on the about screen.
Its not perfect. But it seems to make a call to the uk three number (+44..882 + +44..874).
Once in the advance menu, put http://mobile.three.co.uk/948 into the url (using keyboard, or use that "input text" command) and save it (I can't remember if I had to tick the "Auto Pilot Mode" on or off, but try with it off first)
It will take a little time to sign in (or even a couple of attempts) you should get your buddy list and able to make a call
By the way, don't have it use the wifi. It seems better to have it sign in via 3g, but I could be wrong. And second, there is an awful lot of http 404 response errors coming back from three network (doesn't seem to effect it), but neverless, its just putting a strain on your phone I would imagine - plus, not sure if those 404 http responses coming back will use up your data allowance. so do some testing first! Its just a little difficult to test properly when all the other apps wants to use you internet data allowance! (is there an app for that?)
Anyway, just letting you know what i have found. if those HTTP 404 is gonna be a problem, I can tweak the code, but probably won't be able to share that apk file as I am not sure where the law stands on that!
Warning: Haven't fully tested it yet, so don't blame/slag me if its starts to eat into your credits!
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works well so far thank
Glad it worked for you. Just keep an eye on your credits. Its kinda hard to do especially when all those apps is trying to use up your internet data allowance too! Wish there was some sort of app that can control what can use the wifi or the mobile internet.
Does your mobile internet icon appear ok or it is it constantly showing both the up/down arrow as white? if so, it might drain your battery a bit quicker because of the streaming internet traffic.
Glad it worked out ok for you. Just keep an eye on your credits which is a bit hard to do since all your other apps wants mobile internet access!
Check your battery level too - if you have both the up/down arrow on the mobile internet constantly on, you might find that it might drain your battery a bit quicker.
I just wish there was an option somewhere (perhaps an app?) that can allow to set what programs can use which method of internet (mobile or wifi)
Hi tweedie, I did as you wrote in post #9, I also noticed that the url was already input so I didnt need to type in. Is it because I already adb pushed .xml document as per iskoot thread in Dream section?
@LordLucan - most probably yes. That easter egg screen reads/writes from that xml file that you pushed.
By the way, I wasn't aware of that xml push method as per dream forum (doh!). When you used skype - did you find that your internet icon (that H icon at the top of the screen) was constantly showing up/down white arrows? And whats your battery life like?
@tweedie, Yes H symbol is constantly on. Pity! It would be good if it drops down to 3G. Battery life is about 10 to 12 hrs from full charge on standby with sipdroid also running.It may be little above average since mine is a data sim and not used from normal mobile gsm calls.
Also noted that V 2.51 (Modaco) is fractionally better that early v2.
By the way, have thought about doing same trick on Skype Lite from Market? Its a much lighter client and may be good on data/battery. I have the apk file should you need.
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I just wish there was an option somewhere (perhaps an app?) that can allow to set what programs can use which method of internet (mobile or wifi)
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Such an apps exists, it's called Droidwall and is a firewall application which con block or unblock wanted apps from either 3g or WiFi. Sadly it does not work on MoDaCo custom rom right now, but I just registered and will give Paul a note. Seems like there is only one kernel module missing.
@hero-user
thanks for that Droidwall, sounds just the app I needed
@Lord Lucan
thanks for checking. This indicates to me that the xml push method and the easter egg way is both working the same way and both is probably getting a load of HTTP404 error back from 3 network (and possibly shortening its battery life).
Its possible that skype lite might have some configuration files that can be set to make it call a "3 network" number, but I doubt it would work.
I am guessing that iSkoot makes a url request to 3 network (a custom iskoot server perhaps?) to sign in, get messages, makes calls, etc. And when you make a skype call, it tells that iSkoot server (not skype) that you are making a call to X and prepares a call. Your phone will then make a voice call to that special skype-to-skype number and because its prepared (and somehow knows its you) it directs your voice to the skype at the other end. Again, its just a guess work from the traffic I've been looking at from iSkoot on winmo devices.
Hi Tweedie, Thanks.
Just a thought. 3 Australia have been marketing HTC Magic and I wonder if users there had skype client on their handset.
Early on I phoned 3 and an advisor said there will be a skype client on Hero but I think he didnt know what he was talking about!!!
I'm with 3 Australia with the Magic and can confirm that there was no Skype app installed on the handset.
Using the steps mentioned here I've managed to get skype running over x-series, but still can't make SkypeOUT calls tho - only Skype to Skype.
Word is the Skype is going open source - at least for it's Linux version.
This should hopefully make it fairly simple for a full blown native Skype app on Android.
Regards,
Dave
I have a Google Voice number local to my area code that forward to my pbxes.org account, which in turn takes the call and sends it to my phone via the SipDroid app. I can make incoming/outgoing calls all day long for free, but have a problem with call quality.
I have linked two voicemail files. I placed a call from SipDroid out to the same number in both cases, but one was done over WiFi and the other over 3G (2-3 bars, average signal). The WiFi one is acceptable, but the 3G one is not. Listen for yourself (For the message, I read one of the opening paragraphs from the US Declaration of Independence, same on both so you can compare accurately.)
Setup: Google Voice number -> pbxes.org -> SipDroid app
Wifi VOIP Voicemail: http://www.corusa.com/public/voip-wifi.wav
3G VOIP Voicemail: http://www.corusa.com/public/voip-3g.wav
Now, with that said you need to understand my intent. I am wanting to use my Google Voice number for work, as my off-hours support phone, so I do not accrue charges on my personal cell plan (not covered by employer, and they do not provide work mobile phones). So, since I am usually on the go, I will not be connected to WiFi, thus I need a reliable VOIP option that will get acceptable call quality over 3G. There are multiple options out there, and I do not have a problem with a monthly fee, but they all come with caveats. For example, if I got an "Online Number" from Skype, and just forwarded my Google Voice number to that, it would work through the Skype app, no SIP app needed; however, the Skype voicemail cannot be disabled, so I can no longer use the Google Voice app to easily see my support calls/messages from my home screen. I have use the Skype app (or website) to listen to voicemails. Skype would solve my quality problem (based on reviews of other users that use it over 3G), but introduce the new voicemail issue. The setup I have now (GV->pbxes->SipDroid) allows me to use the GV voicemail, but quality is lacking...catch 22. Is there a better more reliable solution out there for VOIP on Android? I am fine with paying
There's also the Google Callback app, that I have been trying to avoid at all costs, since it is kind of hokey, and I tried the GrooVe IP app, but it has a lot of echo for the person I am calling, and no setting change could fix it.
p.s. - I will be updating my phone from the DroidX (3G only) to the Bionic (4G). If you think that will make a difference, and make all my concerns moot, then just say so, and that's what I'll do
Thanks!!
Since you mentioned GrooVe IP, figured I'd respond. Did you try the echo canceler setting in the GrooVe IP audio/echo settings? Enabling that should get rid of echo heard by the person you're talking to. And/Or reducing the mic gain & speaker volume.
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Since you mentioned GrooVe IP, figured I'd respond. Did you try the echo canceler setting in the GrooVe IP audio/echo settings? Enabling that should get rid of echo heard by the person you're talking to. And/Or reducing the mic gain & speaker volume.
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Already tried that, and every option in between, including the manual millisecond settings.
Viber has amazing quality...not sure if you can use it over 3g or 4g though.
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Viber has amazing quality...not sure if you can use it over 3g or 4g though.
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Viber is not a true VOIP solution, as you can only call other people using the Viber app. Here's an excerpt from the Viber FAQ...
Q: Can I call people who don't have Viber?
A: Yes, if the person you're calling doesn't have Viber, the call will be placed like *regular call, but don't forget to invite your friends to Viber so your next call is free . *Regular calls are calls placed through your cell phone service provider, using your cell phone rate plan.
That's pointless...I need to call any phone number (land line, mobile, cell, work, etc) in the USA from my Google voice number using only a 3G/4G connection. I really need to find that one or two providers that use a low enough bitrate for voice that can work fine on 3G without being echoey or choppy (this is why I posted the 3G sample voice-mail above). I would just install the Google Voice callback app, but I do not have a 'Friends & Family' option for my cell plan to add my GV number to, which is essential for that to be feasible.
Is this really not something a lot of people have dealt with? I know I am not the first person in the world who has tried to call via VOIP over 3G - the technology has been around forever. Anyway, still need an answer if anyone has one
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Viber is not a true VOIP solution, as you can only call other people using the Viber app. Here's an excerpt from the Viber FAQ...
Q: Can I call people who don't have Viber?
A: Yes, if the person you're calling doesn't have Viber, the call will be placed like *regular call, but don't forget to invite your friends to Viber so your next call is free . *Regular calls are calls placed through your cell phone service provider, using your cell phone rate plan.
That's pointless...I need to call any phone number (land line, mobile, cell, work, etc) in the USA from my Google voice number using only a 3G/4G connection. I really need to find that one or two providers that use a low enough bitrate for voice that can work fine on 3G without being echoey or choppy (this is why I posted the 3G sample voice-mail above). I would just install the Google Voice callback app, but I do not have a 'Friends & Family' option for my cell plan to add my GV number to, which is essential for that to be feasible.
Is this really not something a lot of people have dealt with? I know I am not the first person in the world who has tried to call via VOIP over 3G - the technology has been around forever. Anyway, still need an answer if anyone has one
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I'm also an early adapter of GV voip service.
I'm using Dell streak 7 (dual core 512 mb ram, horrible software config, honeycomb 3.2)
I manage to have stable voip quality with clear portable 4g hotspot connected through wifi. Unlimited calls and data, pretty cool. However, talking through a bluetooth device and 3GHSPA+ have been horrible. My friends keep complaining about bad call quality until I find this issues. If calling through wifi (I use groove ip) with internal mic and speaker, everything is fine. I guess it's either due to bad hardware coding of the streak 7 or due to the narrow bandwith of the bluetooth 2.1 or 3G. I'm not familiar with the tech details of streak 7.
I'm gonna try the new nexus 7 and sony xperia z ultra to see if any issues above can be solved.
I've been running Alpha 3 of CM7 on my touchpad for the past few weeks. All in all I'm a fan and have been using it as my primary OS for the touchpad.
Getting GrooveIP to work would be the coup de grace for me as being able to take and place phone calls on it has been the one thing missing. Running Groove IP I can hear the other side for a second or two and then it just goes quiet. People on the other end say that can't hear anything from me.
Just curious if others have figured out a way around this (or if I've been an idiot). A search wasn't helpful.
No probs here
anything in particular with how you have it setup? are you using echo cancellation?
Figured out how to keep hearing audio from the other end.
Go to Settings --> Troubleshooting --> "Wifi Tablet", and make sure it's checked. Also make sure "Synchronize Voice" is checked.
still working on getting the mic to work
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/7576-call-text-on-touchpad-with-google-voice/
apparently the mic not working is a known issue still.
dj4enzik, were you able to find a fix to this?
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The fix would have to come from the CM rom. From the logs I looked at it looked like the audio driver wasn't working properly.
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Works fine on mine..Let me check and see how my setting s are and I will post back!!
You can make free calls with Google Voice, and a PBX server. It's really easy to install PBXinaflash on an older computer, or run it in a virtualized environment. Check out this tutorial here. For more reliability you can purchase a DID from voip.ms or Vitelity. For 4 dollars a month you can make as many outbound/inbound calls as you want -- voip.ms only. Vitelity is 4 dollars a month for unlimited inbound. I'm currently using a Vitelity DID for inbound calls, and a GV trunk to make outgoing calls for free. Media5-Phone works really well as a SIP client. I have found that the function built into Android does not work as well as some SIP applications. I really suggest building a PBX server over using a service such as Groove IP.
jaybizza said:
Works fine on mine..Let me check and see how my setting s are and I will post back!!
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Anything special to report about your settings? I used the instructions described earlier to get audio working. I also tried changing the microphone setting to "standard mic", but it still isn't working.
ok so i bought this phone and it's delightful. I dont get the speeds i would normally get on a native tmobile 4g phone, but most of the time i'm either working or at home so wifi is always available
however, i've recently moved into a new apartment with my fiance and i only get about 1 bar of reception in my bedroom, and pretty much no bars in my living room and bathroom. Unfortunately, it dosen't appear as though this phone has any native wifi calling, and was wondering if anybody had some sort of resolution for this?
Yes i thought of some of the other apps out there but what i dont like is the fact that i either have to subscribe a new number, or there are advertisements before ringing, or how i have to disable an app when i go out because my data connection isn't as fast as a native tmobile 4g, so im kind of in a bind... i really love the phone and would prefer to keep using it, i just wish that i had something that would be able to run as smoothly as any of my previous tmobile android phones...
anyways i know it's probably asking for alot, but if someone has a solution, please let me know, i tried searching but i didn't come up with much
This would be awesome.
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ok so i bought this phone and it's delightful. I dont get the speeds i would normally get on a native tmobile 4g phone, but most of the time i'm either working or at home so wifi is always available
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however, i've recently moved into a new apartment with my fiance and i only get about 1 bar of reception in my bedroom, and pretty much no bars in my living room and bathroom. Unfortunately, it dosen't appear as though this phone has any native wifi calling, and was wondering if anybody had some sort of resolution for this?
Yes i thought of some of the other apps out there but what i dont like is the fact that i either have to subscribe a new number, or there are advertisements before ringing, or how i have to disable an app when i go out because my data connection isn't as fast as a native tmobile 4g, so im kind of in a bind... i really love the phone and would prefer to keep using it, i just wish that i had something that would be able to run as smoothly as any of my previous tmobile android phones...
anyways i know it's probably asking for alot, but if someone has a solution, please let me know, i tried searching but i didn't come up with much
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I would like to recommend this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5ndm9pcCJd
It will do everything you are wanting, plus you can make calls and save your minuets even if you have service, if your in an area where your data is fast enough. It integrates with the phone well and even uses the built in dialer.
I bought this app back when i got my first tablet that didn't even have cell capabilities and I've used it on various devices since. i think you will find the call quality is excellent.
tekhnologia said:
ok so i bought this phone and it's delightful. I dont get the speeds i would normally get on a native tmobile 4g phone, but most of the time i'm either working or at home so wifi is always available
however, i've recently moved into a new apartment with my fiance and i only get about 1 bar of reception in my bedroom, and pretty much no bars in my living room and bathroom. Unfortunately, it dosen't appear as though this phone has any native wifi calling, and was wondering if anybody had some sort of resolution for this?
Yes i thought of some of the other apps out there but what i dont like is the fact that i either have to subscribe a new number, or there are advertisements before ringing, or how i have to disable an app when i go out because my data connection isn't as fast as a native tmobile 4g, so im kind of in a bind... i really love the phone and would prefer to keep using it, i just wish that i had something that would be able to run as smoothly as any of my previous tmobile android phones...
anyways i know it's probably asking for alot, but if someone has a solution, please let me know, i tried searching but i didn't come up with much
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Ok, this is like 99% of what i want, i just want people to call my NATIVE phone number to call me when im on wifi.
I dont want to hand out an alternative number, that's my biggest issue at the moment
for example:
if my family is in an accident, and they have my native number listed in their emergency contact, and they try calling, then that could be rather bad...
but yea, if you have any other ideas, i'm all open to it
When you set up your Google Voice number, you put your "native" number in google voice, when someone calls it, your google voice number will ring, the person calling is not aware of your real number... i'll give my google voice number out... 731-412-0080. When you call it, it automatically rings my house and my cellphone and which ever one i pick up on, you will have no clue, all that matters is when you call my google voice number you get me, I have several forwarding filters set up...
You would simply set up your native number calls forward to your Google voice automatically.
So If your native number was 555-121-1234 and I called it, I would be silently fowarded to your GV number and your cell would ring... (google voice it's self is completely free) go here to see: https://www.google.com/voice
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Ok, this is like 99% of what i want, i just want people to call my NATIVE phone number to call me when im on wifi.
I dont want to hand out an alternative number, that's my biggest issue at the moment
for example:
if my family is in an accident, and they have my native number listed in their emergency contact, and they try calling, then that could be rather bad...
but yea, if you have any other ideas, i'm all open to it
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i already have google voice but never considered forwarding my tmobile number to it... hmm.. you may have made my day =)
Glad I could help... Google voice + that app oi told you about in my 1st post = awesomeness
tekhnologia said:
i already have google voice but never considered forwarding my tmobile number to it... hmm.. you may have made my day =)
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I use google voice on that app but the call quality is not decent at all. Ive only used it on wifi and its terrible. Voce gets distored some lag, and even some echoing.
ok so here was my ultimate solution
got the app that was mentioned and also got tasker
i set it so that whenever i would enter my home wireless network exclusively, tasker would make my phone forward calls to my google voice number, which in turn forwarded the calls to my app =)
also set it so that when i leave my network, it would automatically disengage the ipgroove app, so all in all i gotta say it worked out ok, thanks!
I use groove ip
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Yup that's what I recommended I have had it for a year now.
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I use groove ip
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if anyone chooses to go this route and there's no wifi calling app in the future, just let me know, it was a wonderful way to get to do what i needed to do, and with the help of tasker, it will auto engage/disengage features, almost as if we did have the native wifi calling feature that the s2 has, but yea, i'd be glad to help anytime =)
Taking up on technologia's offer to help
@tekhnologia: When you are at home connected via wifi, are you forwarding your t-mobile number to your google voice number (perhaps using "conditional call forwarding")?
Otherwise, I think I more or less understand your setup, but a brief list of steps would be awesome!
Thanks for the offer to help.
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if anyone chooses to go this route and there's no wifi calling app in the future, just let me know, it was a wonderful way to get to do what i needed to do, and with the help of tasker, it will auto engage/disengage features, almost as if we did have the native wifi calling feature that the s2 has, but yea, i'd be glad to help anytime =)
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I have the rezound, as well as a Kindle Fire, and I installed Google Voice on them. I read through other threads, and no luck with my problem.
I have used Google Voice on my computer to call and text people, and with my upcoming trip to europe, it would be nice to use that to call people back home.
Problem, I have it installed on two devices, yet on both it doesn't give me the option to call, or even compose any sort of message at all. Any ideas on what I can do? The only options I get are refresh, settings, and search.
For me, when I'm in my inbox (or any other folder) I have a compose button on the bottom left. For calls, can you go into settings, Making calls, and change it to ask for all calls? Then use your dialer to place a call and it should prompt you.
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I have the rezound, as well as a Kindle Fire, and I installed Google Voice on them. I read through other threads, and no luck with my problem.
I have used Google Voice on my computer to call and text people, and with my upcoming trip to europe, it would be nice to use that to call people back home.
Problem, I have it installed on two devices, yet on both it doesn't give me the option to call, or even compose any sort of message at all. Any ideas on what I can do? The only options I get are refresh, settings, and search.
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click settings. the second option in the settings menu controls the ability to make calls via google voice. it is however done by dialing a forwarding service and therefore uses your minutes. it is not voip.
Fontos said:
I have the rezound, as well as a Kindle Fire, and I installed Google Voice on them. I read through other threads, and no luck with my problem.
I have used Google Voice on my computer to call and text people, and with my upcoming trip to europe, it would be nice to use that to call people back home.
Problem, I have it installed on two devices, yet on both it doesn't give me the option to call, or even compose any sort of message at all. Any ideas on what I can do? The only options I get are refresh, settings, and search.
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I pretty much use Google Voice as my primary mode of voice calling. You don't make a call through the app. Simply go to settings, and tell it to either use GV for every call, or ask it to prompt you at every call whether to call from your phone or to call from GV. Then when you simply dial as normal through the dialer app, it will either just use GV if you told it to, or ask you which to use.
BTW, All GV calling functionality is disabled on wifi tablets. I honestly have no experience with 3G/4G tablets, but on my Wifi Transformers I have to install a SIP client on the tablet and route GV calls to another VOIP service I use.
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I pretty much use Google Voice as my primary mode of voice calling. You don't make a call through the app. Simply go to settings, and tell it to either use GV for every call, or ask it to prompt you at every call whether to call from your phone or to call from GV. Then when you simply dial as normal through the dialer app, it will either just use GV if you told it to, or ask you which to use.
BTW, All GV calling functionality is disabled on wifi tablets. I honestly have no experience with 3G/4G tablets, but on my Wifi Transformers I have to install a SIP client on the tablet and route GV calls to another VOIP service I use.
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I'm a bit confused. I thought the only Google Voice calling solution was GrooveIP if you want to send and receive calls properly for your Google Voice phone number. GrooveIP does not use your minutes and is definitely VOIP.
On every device I tried it on, there is a bit of delay with GrooveIP, but the quality is good (good internet connection required, whether its 4G or strong 3G or WiFi.)
Can you please elaborate a bit? Are you just using Google Voice app, but its using your minutes?
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I'm a bit confused. I thought the only Google Voice calling solution was GrooveIP if you want to send and receive calls properly for your Google Voice phone number. GrooveIP does not use your minutes and is definitely VOIP.
On every device I tried it on, there is a bit of delay with GrooveIP, but the quality is good (good internet connection required, whether its 4G or strong 3G or WiFi.)
Can you please elaborate a bit? Are you just using Google Voice app, but its using your minutes?
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When you use the google voice app, it dials into the google voice services which then forwards the call to the number you dialed. You get charged for the minutes during the call as a result. This also breaks free mobile to mobile calling.
GrooveIP is a 3rd party app that lets you connect to GV via VOIP so you don't have that forwarding call.
Use sipdroid with pbxs function. Tie it to Google voice, download Google voice callback, and presto. Have it on an old evo for my 8 year old daughter. She loves texting with Google voice. Makes her feel like a teenager. There is sometimes a slight echo, but completely usable.
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JeramyEggs said:
Use sipdroid with pbxs function. Tie it to Google voice, download Google voice callback, and presto. Have it on an old evo for my 8 year old daughter. She loves texting with Google voice. Makes her feel like a teenager. There is sometimes a slight echo, but completely usable.
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This is exactly how I made voice calling possible with my GV number on my wifi tablet.