I've posted in other threads about lag i've been experiencing (here, here and here).
As soon as i enable HDMI out the bluetooth keyboard and mouse start lagging and stuttering very badly. This happens with mirror mode (NON-Mod) or Webtop via Nebtop (Root App) or Fenny's mod(replacement APKs). I've run the fastboot on my phone to bring it back to non root stock and i've updated to the 748 VZW OTA update but i still get this issue even just using mirror mode.
Could someone else test this with their RAZR? I'd like to know if it's something defective with my device or with all RAZRs.
The reproduction steps are simple:
1. Pair a bluetooth HID Mouse or Keyboard
2. Connect the input device
3. Connect HDMI
4. Choose output mode (Webtop via hack or Mirror mode with no hacks required)
5. Try to type a text or move the mouse pointer around
I've tried this with different Monitors and televisions and also with different bluetooth mice and keyboards. I haven't found a combination which works smoothly yet. I also posted this issue in the Motorola owners forum. Not too much response there quite yet.
Thanks for the help if anyone can provide it!
I have just ordered my mini HDMI cable. It should be in on weekend so i will keep you posted on my results.
Got my dock station today and will be getting a Bluetooth keyboard in a couple days. I will report back as well.
UPDATE _ Been using the dock station with a Microsoft Bluetooth keyboard and a really cheap USB wireless mouse. The keyboard has no lag at all but the mouse lags a bit depending on what app is running or which dock mode I'm using. I've found that certain games and apps run with less lag in Web top mode and some work better on HDMI mirror mode. I messed with the mouse settings in Web top mode to make it more responsive but it still takes some getting used to. I don't think it's unuseable, but I can see noticeable lag that you have to compensate for.
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My lapdock seems to lag a little when connected.to Bluetooth.A2DP
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Same issue on occasion
I have had this happen a few times. I am not sure what is causing it. I will reply back if I have anything further to add.
I don't have a bluetooth mouse or keyboard, but I have noticed a similar delay when playing games via HDMI using a sixaxis or wii controller.
Works fine for me.
Tested with stock UK razr rooted. Nebtop app and apple wireless keyboard and magic mouse. Although mouse behaves weird unless you set up the click rate and sensitivity.
same applies to mirror mode.
I guess its your keyboard/mouse that is causing trouble. Try different set of gear or change batteries.
Hope it helps
That's weird, i tried someone else's logitech bluetooth mouse and got the same issue. It was a mouse only, no keyboard or headphones this time and still had the issues.
I have the same problem. just purchased a dell bluetooth mouse and the apple bluetooth keyboard. they work great in the phone. But once in webtop mode, there is lag. I am using a quality HDMI cable, but use a rocketfish HDMI to DVI converter to the monitor. wondering if that is the issue.?
Related
Im looking to get a portable mouse and keyboard for my Galaxy Tab 7.7 to carry around with me as travelling companions. Keyboard needs to be compact and portable but with good feedback and all the right buttons. Any particular recommendations?
Hi,
I'd be interested in anyone's experiences with this as well. Anyone?
Note: my tab is not rooted or modded in anyway.
Here are the bluetooth devices i tried.
(Mouse)
Logitech v470 bluetooth mouse for netbooks
Apple Magic mouse
(Keyboard)
Apple Wireless Keyboard
Here are the results:
Apple Magic mouse - Does not work at all. (it does pair, and display as a input device.. but no cursor or response will work)
v470 bluetooth mouse - Works very well, shows up as Bluetooth Laser Travel Mouse.
Apple Wireless keyboard - Type on the stock browser lag, and it cause my attached v470 to lag as well! .. right now i do not know it is a keyboard issue or the bluetooth on the tab that cause this.
So i guess i might go get a logitech bluetooth keyboard for tablet to try it out
Thanks electro.
To add and answer my own question.
I am typing this on a Microsoft "Wireless Entertainment Keyboard 7000", which includes a touchpad. Both elements work a treat.
Is there a way to get a bluetooth keyboard/mouse to connect to the Tab without using the dongle? I~ ask because the tab would be a great replacement for my media PC under the TV if only I could attache the HDMI and get bluetooth to work with HIDs at the same time... As it is HDMI requires a pass-through in the power lead so there is no way to attach the bluetooth dongle. It is more than a little annoying that my £100 cheapo tab has seperate USB and HDMI connection and can do just this!
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Aha! Found a way to do it! Just connect your bluetooth HID devices without using the dongle... It's obvious really when you think about it.
Anyway, I managed to do this with the above keyboard/mouse using an app on the Market which allows you to do just that - Bluetooth Keyboard Easyconnect. You tab needs to be rooted and the instructions are not necessarily clear. If you do try it, to connect you need to go back to the standard bluetooth interface, make you HID discoverable (push the button?) and then scan for bluetooth devices. Once it is found and you pair you then need to go back to the app and select the HID in there as well.
So now I have a nice extremely small media pc (but not) under the TV. Films, music, internet, work all there and controlled from my sofa.
If you want a really portable bluetooth keyboard and touchpad combo, check out
http://www.riitek.com/product_Info.asp?id=45
They have newer versions of what I have, (RT-MWK02), but mine works really well. Very easy to pair up. Compact and light.
Typing does take a little bit getting use to but once you do, it works out great.
Haven't have any issues. Touch pad is real nice.
I've picked it up on Amazon.
This is something I always look for in my phones, maybe im one of few . I can say that HID profiles are supported and have tested with a portable bluetooth keyboard which works perfectly- no connection issues dropouts or weird quirks. I also tested out my bluetooth mouse which also paired without a problem, however its use was not ideal (but thats ok). There was no mouse cursor so it was awkward trying to select or click. The mouse was more like and external bluetooth finger if that that makes sense. The mouse like the finger and the table like the screen. I guess functionality of bluetooth mice wasn't really a large concern if at all. But id say good enough especially for the keyboard
Stock 2.3.4
I have been able to use a Bluetooth mouse on ics, and it does show a cursier. Now all I need is a mhl adapter and I'm going to start using this thing as my desktop
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Hi, I'm wondering is there any way to force atrix games to work with some gamepads different than PS.
Today I installed Need For Speed Most Wanted and game is nice but it's hard to drive turning phone or on that little stering wheel.
So I have HD Dock and tried it with Xbox360 wirelles pad with original USB adapter but phone said that it's not compatibile USB device. I tried same thing with Ligitech Cordless Rumblepad 2 and there is no error message about USB Device and adapter blinking when i hit buttons but no reaction on the phone. I know i should use some emulator but none from market is working.
I don't wanna buy PS pad only to play few games so I figured that maybe somehow I can use USB keyboard to play.
So maybe someone have some emulator to remap keys on USB keyboard to work with NFS??
International Atrix, 2.3.4, non rooted, locked. Ofc I can root phone if it's needed.
I'm sure there's apps to remap keyboard.
Also try a wired Xbox controller not the wireless one and not the charge kit.
Sent from Moto Atrix 4g on Neutrino 2.91
I just have Xbox360 wireless pad and Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2 and I'm trying to avoid buing 3rd pad only for Atrix cause it have no sense.
Thats why I'm trying to deal somehow with what I have.
There is a guide in another forum that was posted a while back on how to edit your rom to have it read the wireless controller as a wired one and apply the same profile to it, I suggest you search for it and try it.
I tried plugging my wired Xbox 360 controller on my lapdock using CM9 (Yes it was open) but it didn't stop blinking... I don't even know if the USB supports other things than USB storage on the Atrix.
USB keyboard and usb wireless mouse working fine so it supports more than memory sticks. As I said before adapter from Logitech pad is not shows as unsupported USB device like Xbox adapter but I have no idea how force it to work. I read that most working pad emulators isn't working on Gingerbread so maybe it's the problem.
If the USB pad in question supports the HID protocol, you could be in luck. Otherwise, you're probably screwed.
Thats right, completely forgot about HID. If I'm not wrong all HID devices should work. I'll check that Logitech pad but as I remember under windows it's discoverable without any Logitech drivers so maybe it gonna works. Otherwise any tweak to remap keyboard to work with games?? I know keys can be remap from /system/... but I don't need to remap keys permanently but only for few games so it can work even on some emulator.
I'm wondering that anyone work it out how play games on external keyboard yet cause it could be very easier than typing on screen or rotating phone and now smartphones are bigger and bigger and it would be very comfortable to play on full keyboard and big screen.
It's easy to add usb support for the joystick/gamepad generic and xbox controller but you need to recompile the kernel avec joystick and xpad module.
I'm working on a keys mapper for the 360 controller and I built a kernel for that but I shared it only at french users on a other forum ...
It's only the kernel build with this source : http://sourceforge.net/projects/atrix.motorola/files/Atrix EMEA/4.5.2A-74_OLE-20/
And 2 or 3 options to get ntfs, cifs, ext4, it is not unified and I have build a little software with java 7 in french to add the command line in it with tegra part and serial as a original.
It works fine on the retail fr 2.3.4 rom.
If you want to try it : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11889182/kernel/Kernel_2.6.32.9_djeman_v1.0.rar
And the original thread : http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/12...adjoystickxpadcifsutf-8ext4ntfs/#entry2078963
I don't found any good mappers for the 360 controller on the market so I'm working on mine.
If others peoples are interessed by it, I will make a translated version and a subject here.
I can confirm that my regular (not wireless) Logitech controller works fine, although not with all games.
Connected to a Lapdock.
heres what i discovered from experience.
Chamelleon said:
Hi, I'm wondering is there any way to force atrix games to work with some gamepads different than PS.
Today I installed Need For Speed Most Wanted and game is nice but it's hard to drive turning phone or on that little stering wheel.
So I have HD Dock and tried it with Xbox360 wirelles pad with original USB adapter but phone said that it's not compatibile USB device. I tried same thing with Ligitech Cordless Rumblepad 2 and there is no error message about USB Device and adapter blinking when i hit buttons but no reaction on the phone. I know i should use some emulator but none from market is working.
I don't wanna buy PS pad only to play few games so I figured that maybe somehow I can use USB keyboard to play.
So maybe someone have some emulator to remap keys on USB keyboard to work with NFS??
International Atrix, 2.3.4, non rooted, locked. Ofc I can root phone if it's needed.
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Custom ROM (cm9+) and stock roms ...with many kernel changes, I've always had same result.
1stly on the Atrix, unlike most tablets, the USB port doesn't give any power to the device.
I tried an otg cable with no luck so I modified it so power ran through the cable.
I also have a multimedia dock which produced the same result.
I can run and mount usb devices (storage) so I can transfer data or watch films; mounting is aided by a USB host app on the play store.
Any time something like a Xbox game pad is inserted dmesg shows it was noticed but not identified, so it doesn't look like it will work without manually adding the drivers/modules to support the device.
I have a friend with a nexus 7; Xbox control will work on that with a basic otg cable; only need to map the gamepad keys and in some cases such as emulation apps the keys are already mapped.
I was using my wireless Logitech desktop set but I noticed some lag after not using it for some seconds. When I keep using the mouse or keyboard there is no problem and everything works fine. But when I stop typing or stop mousing for longer than three seconds, the tablet doesn't recognize any input anymore. When I move the mouse or use the keyboard, nothing happens, but after two seconds any input is recognized again.
So I have to keep typing or else I have to wait some seconds to let the tablet recognize any input. This is unworkable.
I tested it with two desktop sets with two different Unifying receivers. When I use a corded mouse or keyboard, everything's fine. It seems to me that there is some sort of logitech standby mode which the tablet can't handle or something.
What can I do abaout this?
Added logcat of connecting usb, a freeze moment, and the disconnection. But I see nothing wrong there...
http://pastebin.com/fisK3hQ0
I bought an other Logitech Wireless mouse (standard receiver, no Unify) and that one works perfectly. So it looks like it has something to do with Unify, not wireless in particular.
Anyone?!
The Shield tablet has the same issue:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...quot-delayed-input-after-inactivity/?offset=2
Maybe it has something to do with the Tegra K1?
farris said:
The Shield tablet has the same issue:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...quot-delayed-input-after-inactivity/?offset=2
Maybe it has something to do with the Tegra K1?
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It is really annoying. My Shield Tablet is fantastic, except for this issue with the keyboard/mouse. Sad panda.
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It is really annoying. My Shield Tablet is fantastic, except for this issue with the keyboard/mouse. Sad panda.
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And no solutions yet. Maybe a different kernel will work, but I like to keep my N9 stock (the first months hehehe)
Any solution?
Has there been any solution to this issue yet? I too am having the same problem.
Work Around
I have a work around that seems to fix this issue. For this to work you will need to be root. Also note that this solution will cause all USB devices to remain on at all times and will not survive a reboot. My experience is mostly with linux and very little with android. I expect someone should be able to modify the following script fairly easily for a more permanent solution.
Open your favorite terminal emulator and type the following four commands pressing enter after each:
su
for i in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/control;
do echo on > $i;
done
This script toggles the power control setting for all usb devices from the auto state to always on. Hope this helps!
I have a slight lag with my logitech controller through USB OTG. It's just a split second lag, but it's there right from when you plug it in. Makes it unusable for gaming. No issues whatsoever with my Logitech bluetooth keyboard however.
Just bought a used Samsung Tab S7 , factory reset it already
Was planning to use it to stream games,
Bought a HDMI Port with additional USB ports
And A Third Part Gaming Extender to Connect Mouse and Keyboard
The Third Party Gaming Extender worked fine on the USB port and communicated well with the application
The WASD movement was smooth, Mouse aims fine
When I plugged in hdmi (connected to Elgato60 a capture card that is connected to my pc)
Into my HDMI Port HowEver
The Third Party Gaming Extender still recognizes my mouse and keyboard
But the software had a hard time translating it into the game
WASD movement was butchered,
Mouse aim went reverse
Though HDMI signal is successful in displaying Tab S7 screen on my computer
My Question is what did the HDMI connection do to screw up this third party gaming software?
Is there anything I can turn off regarding HDMI side effects on other applications on my Samsung Tab S7?
Will buying a HDMI splitter fix this problem?
Thank you For reading this long post,
I really am desperate right now
i also got this and tried many thing but nth. HDMI will change tab s7 touch screen ratio and reverse. if you use nor mal mouse and keyboard no issue. but using game extender got this issue. you can't do anything on tab s7. Game extender may able to solve this issue.