Can someone explain?! - TouchPad General

You guys are aware right that Erik Hardesty a.k.a. dalingrin is wokring on ICS for touchpad and has promised (citation needed) to deliver before CM9? Now, I want to know if he indeed delivers, then will his work to taken to make the CM9 build faster and then will he be included in the official CM team. I am asking this because I have a Moto Defy and before CM7, Quarx, Epsylon and others compiled it and I think they are now in the CM team. Just curious on how it works.

He is already a part of the CM team, he is the CM maintainer for the Nook Color.

That's news.. well for me! But if there is someone else in his place who is ot in the CM team then what happens?

abhi.eternal said:
That's news.. well for me! But if there is someone else in his place who is ot in the CM team then what happens?
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Then its not a CM9 build. Basically the CM team are a bunch of developers on different devices. In the case of ICS each developer will build their versions and it will be pushed and integrated into the CM9 list when CM9 is ready to launch. However, in the case where a CM team member's build is ready to be tested before CM9 is ready then they will most likely post them as a under a different title because its not integrated as a CM9 device yet.
In the case that another developer releases an AOSP ROM into the wild then he can do whatever he wants with it and it has nothing to do with the Cyanogenmod team whatsoever.
Samsung Galaxy S Captivate ICS CM9, Glitch Kernel | HP TouchPad CM7 Xron Beta 2.9.1

@iamsamsamiam: I get your point but if that is the case then how come Quarx and Epsylon (for Motorola Defy) are in the official CM team now (I think they are [citation needed!]). If you are not aware, CM7 had no love for Defy for a very long time and that gap was filled by Quarx at first. Afterwards, when we had a almost complete working rom based on CM7, these devs were included in the official list. I just want to know is this how it happens?

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@iamsamsamiam: I get your point but if that is the case then how come Quarx and Epsylon (for Motorola Defy) are in the official CM team now (I think they are [citation needed!]). If you are not aware, CM7 had no love for Defy for a very long time and that gap was filled by Quarx at first. Afterwards, when we had a almost complete working rom based on CM7, these devs were included in the official list. I just want to know is this how it happens?
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And there are still a ton of devices out there without any Cyanogenmod ROM at all. I guess its more like a developer who wants to code for a particular device and wants to put a CM flavour to the ROM and gets permissions from the CM team to use it and builds a CM ROM and I guess they would become part of the team as a de facto point since they continue to support their build. Remember there are a ton of other ROM developers out there that don't use a CM base and does things their own way.
Cyanogenmod isn't always going to be the "best" ROM out there for every device, but they're trying to support many devices out there. The devices that get support are reflected upon the community and the more popular the phone the larger the community. And developers come out of said communities and maybe one of those developers wants to make it into a CM build.
Samsung Galaxy S Captivate ICS CM9, Glitch Kernel | HP TouchPad CM7 Xron Beta 2.9.1

That made sense!

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{Information}CyanogenMod for the Play

A few of Sony Ericsson's newest devices are queued up to get CyanogenMod Custom ROM. Thanks to recent code submitted by Diogo Ferreira, the bits needed to bring my favorite custom ROM to three smartphones in the Xperia family:
- Xperia Play: r.cyanogenmod.com/#change,7126
- Xperia Neo: r.cyanogenmod.com/#change,7128
- Xperia Arc: r.cyanogenmod.com/#change,7127
Currently the code to add these phones to the CyanogenMod family is awaiting approval to be merged into the CyanogenMod repository. Once that's done we can expect nightly builds to follow not long after.
From that point it's just a matter of time before Release Candidates and a Final Build is available.
Source: http://r.cyanogenmod.com/#q,status:open,n,z
Via: http://pocketnow.com/android/sony-xperia-play-neo-and-arch-getting-cyanogenmod-custom-rom
Woohoo! I am getting a bit sick of my SE ROM, I want a Cyanogen!
very nice, i wasn't expecting official nightlies for our play's
Great!!!!!!!!!
Official CM7 on my Xperia Play is Very very Great
Come on!!!!!!!!
I'd like to hear word from the FreeXperia team. Are they maintaining CM7 officially?
At any rate, I already ROM Manager ready for action ^^
This is only for plays that are bootloader unlockable right? Any progress on unlocking the bootloader on simlocked phones?
RacecarBMW said:
This is only for plays that are bootloader unlockable right? Any progress on unlocking the bootloader on simlocked phones?
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We're making progress on CDMA phones.
The problem is that simlocked phones don't have RCK_H key so there's nothing to crack the unlock key from. But as said, I'll check it, I have some people willing to test.
Looks as though it has now been merged. Really looking forward 2 flashing nightlies. Cyanogen best mod by a looooooonnnnggggg stretch.
And just in time so that Verizon users can join the party
Hi, I am Diogo Ferreira (submitter of these patches)
I think you'd be happy to know that they are now already merged and in a buildable state with nightlies following soon.
This is not an alternative to FreeXperia work, it is FreeXperia work. We've been all working together to make this happen.
I'd be happy to answer questions you might have.
deovferreira said:
Hi, I am Diogo Ferreira (submitter of these patches)
I think you'd be happy to know that they are now already merged and in a buildable state with nightlies following soon.
This is not an alternative to FreeXperia work, it is FreeXperia work. We've been all working together to make this happen.
I'd be happy to answer questions you might have.
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Hi Diogo. Glad to hear from you. Does this mean Xperias will be listed on CM homepage under supported devices, and will get official forum's section?
Given that most of the features worked already in the betas (great job by the FX folks), the main question for the Play resides on the camera. What's the status on that?
And for those people who have ROM Manager Premium, will the nightlies come through it as well?
No ETAS on camera. It will be done when it's done but we're looking into it.
As for nightlies, they should be available soon.
deovferreira, is the team making an official kernel as well to compliment the nightly builds? If we are using ROM Manager, then CWM Recovery is essential, and it would be great to have a kernel that had this built in, like the FreeXperia's team does now.
Also, will the ROM be generic for all users? I had quite a few issues with the radio yesterday on my CDMA Play when I tried FreeXperia's latest build. I just wanted to make sure that builds would support all versions of the play, not just the R800i.
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deovferreira, is the team making an official kernel as well to compliment the nightly builds? If we are using ROM Manager, then CWM Recovery is essential, and it would be great to have a kernel that had this built in, like the FreeXperia's team does now.
Also, will the ROM be generic for all users? I had quite a few issues with the radio yesterday on my CDMA Play when I tried FreeXperia's latest build. I just wanted to make sure that builds would support all versions of the play, not just the R800i.
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What is on CM today is on par with what we did for FreeXperia, the kernel has a builtin recovery. You'll see instructions on this soon when nightlies start to hit.
As for CDMA, I am not aware what the differences are. I support a CDMA device (desire-cdma) but it is a PITA since I have no real way to test. What would be good is if someone steps up and tried to maintain a play-cdma port, I imagine the differences would be fairly minimal.
deovferreira said:
What is on CM today is on par with what we did for FreeXperia, the kernel has a builtin recovery. You'll see instructions on this soon when nightlies start to hit.
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Awesome. The only reason I asked is because of how its different from other devices. The kernel always has to be flashed with fastboot. So I just didn't know how the updates would work or anything like that. I assume we just flash one to start the process and go downhill from there.
deovferreira said:
As for CDMA, I am not aware what the differences are. I support a CDMA device (desire-cdma) but it is a PITA since I have no real way to test. What would be good is if someone steps up and tried to maintain a play-cdma port, I imagine the differences would be fairly minimal.
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I agree completely. It appears that the kernel was working fine, there is just something in the CM build that was preventing the radio from working correctly. Logcat was telling me that it detected a CDMA mode and enabled it but then the phone module would crash. It was late when I started looking into it though and didn't do a lot of research, but I imagine that someone has encountered this with a CDMA port from a GSM cousin before. I'll do some more investigation this evening.
The boot will always have to be flashed separately using fastboot due to the way the sony ericsson bootloaders transforms the boot image on flashing. System updates will be done using the recovery, as usual. At some point the kernel and system may get out of sync, the symptom would be wifi failing to enable, at which point people would have to flash a new kernel.
As for CDMA, the RIL libraries should be different as should some settings in build.prop.
Awesome. I'll see what I can do this evening, and maybe even pump out a working build from the source for CDMA users.
Guys, stay calm.
this is FreeXperia CM7 "just" as official CM
So that is what you all wanted.
We worked over some time now with Diogo, all of us 3 ( Diogo, jerpela and me) have commited our changes, put them together and worked together.
All will be good See it as a surprise
I'm working for over 1 month now everyday on camera support. For now nothing new, but new knowledge
currently i'm looking into camera for new 4.x Firmware release, maybe SE changed something in a good way for us...
Best Regards
Bin4ry
Team FreeXperia
Ok I just read the thread and maybe I missed it, my xperia play is from Rogers. Will I be able to install cm 7?
Sent from my Play, with XDA Premium.

[Q] How do CM ROMs get updates?

Just one caveat: I have done searches (read: multiple).
How in the world does CyanogenMod get to all of the supported devices? All of a sudden once CM9 is released, for phones/tablets moving from CM7 to 9, does it go out to all devices or what? Does it need to get ported from the source for each and every individual device? In general, how is CM updated and how does it get out to the officially supported phones/tablets?
Cyanogenmod ROMs do indeed have to be ported to each individual device and maintained. Once a device receives official support from the Cyanogenmod team, daily changes made to the AOSP source code (tweaks and bugfixes by the various contributing devs) are automatically compiled by a "buildbot" and released at the end of each day (thus these builds are called "nightlies"). These nightly updates are then made available for download through the Cyanogenmod website and through ROM Manager. Once code updates reach a certain plateau, a "final release"-worthy balance of features and stability, the build is released separately as a "stable" build (such as CM7.1), though you can still download it from the website or from ROM Manager just as with the nightlies. CM9 will eventually receive the same treatment and be released in the form of nightlies and stable builds.
Further (highly recommended) reading can be found here: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/the-current-and-future-state-of-cyanogenmod-nightlies
Has anyone seen John Connor?
so the nightlies don't have to be ported, but every major revision does?
hugabu said:
so the nightlies don't have to be ported, but every major revision does?
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No.
"Porting" is just a word used for the process of making the rom work on any certain device.
So to answer your question, once the work of porting CM to the certain device is done, that port is used as the base for both the stable and nightly builds.
Look at the analogy of when a new phone comes out, case manufacturers create a mold to use to make their cases fit the certain phone, and that mold is used to make all kinds of cases. Same concept

[Q] what's difference cm nightly and the Ba2tF one?

what's the difference between the cm in http://get.cm/?device=olympus and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574 (Ba2tF) ??
and how the nightly stoped at november? is it Ba2tF something final?
kossel said:
what's the difference between the cm in http://get.cm/?device=olympus and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574 (Ba2tF) ??
and how the nightly stoped at november? is it Ba2tF something final?
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Ba2tf is a beta release by the Atrix dev. team, who originally ported CM7 to the Atrix; it includes Atrix specific fixes from the previous beta release.
The nightlys are released by the CyagonMod dev. team, based off of the work provided by the Atrix dev. team. The nightly updates include fixes, new test build ideas, etc. that have to do with CM7 in general, and may or may not include specific updates for the Olympus (aka the Atrix).
The nightlys and also the Atrix dev team beta builds have been suspended more or less, due to the fact that most of the members of both dev teams are allocating their resources towards working on getting CM9 out. Last estimate I herd of a release candidate for CM9 was something like April???
There are also weekly builds released by the Atrix dev. team (see corresponding thread in dev. section). These are kind of alike nightlys (except that they are weeklys ) released by the Atrix dev. team to try out fixes, new things, etc.
The most stable of the three choices you have to choose from is probably the beta build by the Atrix dev team (Ba2tf). Although, I've been using the most recent nightly for the last month or two and have had no problems. The most recent weekly has incorporated the fingerprint scanner into it.
If I have gotten any of the above info. incorrect, please feel free to correct me anyone.
thanks for the very thorough summary.
wow thank you very much! you have cleared all my doubts and even questions that I wanted to post later lol
This helped clear up a bunch of confusion for me - thank you

Anyone know what is different between CM9 nightlies and CM Tenderloin ROM

Anyone know what is different between CM9 nightlies and CM tenderloin ROM ?
Note: still waiting for TP Mic working with ICS !
Dont quote me on it...
But tenderloin is the name of kernel source for HP Touchpad...so every rom will have that word in it as everyone is using CM's kernel....
Difference between nightly and the rom is that....devs picks small fixes and stuff from many palces and includes them in the nightlies...when bunch of nightlies reaches a point where they make difference..they are converted into the next release of the rom...
All of these ROMs are based off of Ice Cream Sandwich. Each developer(s) put their own stuff on it though. For instance, I am using the AOKP ROM and it has a lot more customization options than CM9. Other than that, they are pretty much the same.
Nightlies are releases usually every night, and contain small fixes that were worked on that day. However, there can also be many more bugs than stable (alpha/beta) releases.

Death of Cyanogen, what does this mean for the Swift 2+

Hello, I should be buying a Swift 2 Plus soon, and as a complete noob, I don't know what the death of Cyanogen is going to do to my device. Obviously it won't instantly brick it, but how am I gonna get future Android updates without installing a custom rom?
have a sexy christmas
Please, read my post here, and the (unconfirmed) Wileyfox's response to Cyanogen move here. It should be enough to clear your doubts
linuxct said:
Please, read my post here, and the (unconfirmed) Wileyfox's response to Cyanogen move here. It should be enough to clear your doubts
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One thing relating more to the custom ROM area. So some of the CM team (not COS) are rebranding as lineage OS right. And they are continuing off the codebase of CM however we don't have a build of CM so how will and developer , from lineage or anywhere else, build a custom ROM without code from CM or AOSP. Unless Cyanogen Inc release the source code for our phone which I'm not sure they will. (Sorry if this is a noob question)
person123321 said:
One thing relating more to the custom ROM area. So some of the CM team (not COS) are rebranding as lineage OS right. And they are continuing off the codebase of CM however we don't have a build of CM so how will and developer , from lineage or anywhere else, build a custom ROM without code from CM or AOSP. Unless Cyanogen Inc release the source code for our phone which I'm not sure they will. (Sorry if this is a noob question)
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You're absolutely correct. We can't start with the development with no sources. However, I don't think Cyanogen would do that at the moment, and, after seeing Wileyfox's response to Cyanogen moves, I think (and actually hope) they'll switch to an AOSP-based ROM with Android N 7.0 upgrade, and if that happens I'm really sure they'll have no problem on releasing the source code (remember Wileyfox devices tend to be quite developer-friendly). From that, we can work on bringing Lineage...

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