Ok I'm tired of the sense 3.0 original look so I'm getting a launcher! I love the sense Widgets tho, WHICH LAUNCHER ALLOWS USE OF ORIGINAL SENSE WIDGETS? I watched a video of adw & it looked like the guy was using original widgets! His sense clock even scrolled like its supposed to
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KaoMinerva said:
Ok I'm tired of the sense 3.0 original look so I'm getting a launcher! I love the sense Widgets tho, WHICH LAUNCHER ALLOWS USE OF ORIGINAL SENSE WIDGETS? I watched a video of adw & it looked like the guy was using original widgets! His sense clock even scrolled like its supposed to
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As a devleoper, I can share a developer's spin on the issue.
As far as I've seen and heard, Sense widgets rely on specific HTC framework files which are all closed sourced and essentially owned by HTC, not to be used by 3rd parties w/o permission from HTC.
With that aside, there is nothing stopping others from duplicating the look/feel/functionality of sense widgets and putting them in the Market. Haven't heard anything of HTC seeking legal recourse from "look a like" widgets, etc.
If you saw something you liked, which seemed to offer everything you were looking for from a Sense widget, I would suggest going after that alternative, until HTC releases their code for public use.
I personally wouldn't count on HTC releasing their Sense launcher/framework/widget code for public use anytime soon.
Hope that helps clarify!
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As a devleoper, I can share a developer's spin on the issue.
As far as I've seen and heard, Sense widgets rely on specific HTC framework files which are all closed sourced and essentially owned by HTC, not to be used by 3rd parties w/o permission from HTC.
With that aside, there is nothing stopping others from duplicating the look/feel/functionality of sense widgets and putting them in the Market. Haven't heard anything of HTC seeking legal recourse from "look a like" widgets, etc.
If you saw something you liked, which seemed to offer everything you were looking for from a Sense widget, I would suggest going after that alternative, until HTC releases their code for public use.
I personally wouldn't count on HTC releasing their Sense launcher/framework/widget code for public use anytime soon.
Hope that helps clarify!
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Thanks so much for the reply! Do you think fancy Widgets is the best alternative then?
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For the clock I think beautiful Widgets or HD Widgets are the best. I use launcher pro plus with launcher pro glass sense skin for the bookmark, friendstream and calendar Widgets and they're almost exact.
I just started using Pro Launcher Plus a few days ago. I was a bit reluctant to because I really like the Sense Widgets. But I found the same Sense widgets for Pro Launcher plus and with a few other modifications like mclock, minimalist text and simple text, I've been able to customize a pretty cool "sense like" theme that' even cooler than the original Sense 3.0 that I was running.
Does it have the scrolling sense clock!? I mean, I have used it on evo 3d but seriously bro LPP needs an update bad
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Is there a way to change the right side dock button? I'd much rather it go to text messages than the "Personalize" screen....anyone know how to change it?
Blah! HTC Sense... I am disgusted with it as well.
Best bet would probably be getting a third-party launcher (Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher).
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Blah! HTC Sense... I am disgusted with it as well.
Best bet would probably be getting a third-party launcher (Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher).
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I'm a Launcher Pro junkie. Love it. Sense on the other hand is definitely a love/hate thing for me. Some of its features are really slick, but many of them just get in the way. I too would like to change that personalize button. Need to look into it more closely.
It won't matter...once a CM7 gingerbread build comes out for this thing, I'm there and goodbye Sense.
Agreed. Once CM7 is ported and I have my TB rooted... there is no turning back to this bloated, stock, Sense 2.2 garbage.
I've always loved LauncherPro. I have the Plus version. But this is my first HTC phone, so I'm using it stock for a bit first just to get a taste of what Sense is all about for a while.
I don't mind it too much. Runs smooth, but has so much bloatware attached to it.
If I could customize the dock buttons around and hide icons in the app tray, I think I'd be fine with Sense.
I have seen this done in some roms but I am pretty sure you have no shot without root. I think I had it in Mikfroyo but it was called modified Rosie or Rosie Options. Something like that.
Btw...mikfroyo is an EVO from under the Evo Dev section
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New sense is nice actually. I like it so far...better than sense 2.0..
Many of us like to use home replacement apps to have more customization. But many of us whom are htc fanboys don't wanna let go of our sense widgets. They do make sense after all. So with the advent of these popup dock apps being on the market like dock4droid i thought hmmm maybe there can be a Rosie dock app that can be created as an overlay to the stock htc Rosie dock! Something that is themeable and looks just like the sense Rosie dock except that it has more app shortcuts embedded on it. Say like 3-5 app shortcuts that can revolve like the android rotary lockscreen that scrolls through different user defined shortcuts like launcher pro/ go launcher. That way we can keep our amazing goodness that sense 2.1 has to offer but having the convenience of using more shortcuts on the dock that home replacements offer. Has anyone else thought of this? And should this have been in the android general forum for more visibility? I'm not a developer btw. Just an enthusiast. Whaddayall think?
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Sounds like a nice idea for those sense-lovers. As for me, I don't much care for sense or the widgets, but would be willing to give this a try.
I originally thought sense was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen back in 1.5. After the step up to 2.0 I perfered the look of AOSP with other adjustments. I absolutely hate the dialer, contacts, and several other aspects of sense though. I would do anything to get it removed from my phone completely. I will rejoice to the heavens once CM7 is ported over to this wonderful piece of hardware.
Its funny to me that the way you feel about sense now is the exact same way I feel about aosp. I like the way aosp performs over sense. Feels much lighter and easier on the cpu. But I like the look and the added functionality that htc brings to android on their devices. Perhaps if there would be a wonderfully themed metamorph and some htc themed dialer and contact apps available on the market I'd totally be on aosp. Since there are all these developers out here banking off of htc themed apps ie flip clocks, widgets and home replacements, I don't see why the htc corporation just not turn their famous ui into a highly advanced home replacement app! And/or convert their famous widgets into android widgets for sale on the market. I'd be willing to pay spb 3d shell money for all of that. They can definitely bank off of selling their ui to those that don't buy their devices and to Those who buy their devices, root and flash aosp on their devices. It can be a win/ win situation for them. And btw, they would kill any home replacement app on the market right now if they were to release a home replacement app based on sense3.0!
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The most themeable launcher with a doc that I've seen is Go Launcher
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex
Go launcher isn't very sense like though if that matters. It's more like vanilla android or sort of like touchwiz on samsung phones.
With LauncherPro Plus and the theme support of widgets you can pretty much have a sense like ui.
Yea but I'm not talking about an idea for a home replacement appz I'm talking about just a dock replacement app, or dock overlay. Something that is put on top of the default dock to be used with the current rom and can be used alongside the proprietary widgets. Launcher pro is the best home replacement app to mimic sense but sense 2.1 and the upcoming 3.0 has surpassed launcher pro. The developer can updated it to have much of those features but who knows if he will and when he will. A simple dock overlay with a few enhancements can save app storage space and be easier on the cpu. I've noticed when I have more than 3 home replacement apps installed, sense starts to get a bit laggy. It would be nice to be able to still experience sense entirely but with a few added enhancements.
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Yea but I'm not talking about an idea for a home replacement appz I'm talking about just a dock replacement app, or dock overlay. Something that is put on top of the default dock to be used with the current rom and can be used alongside the proprietary widgets. Launcher pro is the best home replacement app to mimic sense but sense 2.1 and the upcoming 3.0 has surpassed launcher pro. The developer can updated it to have much of those features but who knows if he will and when he will. A simple dock overlay with a few enhancements can save app storage space and be easier on the cpu. I've noticed when I have more than 3 home replacement apps installed, sense starts to get a bit laggy. It would be nice to be able to still experience sense entirely but with a few added enhancements.
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Problem with launchers those widgets are bundled with them on android is they're generally not sharable. App independent ones like pandora don't have that problem, but the launcher ones seem to be be tied into the launchers and wont play nicely. People have ported out or cloned ones from launchers, but I am guessing the actual ones are just too tied to the launcher code to be standalone.
True but the idea I'm talking about is not a home replacement launcher. I'm talking about a dock overlay. Something that can be used with the default launcher, widgets etc. Look up dock4droid on the market. The idea stemmed from that. Specifically what I'd like to see is a replacement Rosie dock that covers the default dock with extra app shortcuts that are scrollable like launcher pros dock.
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We have seen tons and tons of modding of Sense 3.0 but honestly speaking these are more "Thematic Mods" than real Mods. Yes we have blue, red, pink and you name it and you get it colours available for lockscreen, rings, clocks, statusbar and you name it and you get it graphical items.
Most of you will agree these are skin changes and not real mods. Most android launchers these days have features we would love to see in our dearmost SENSE launcher, but as yet, we have not crossed that mod level. Back in the WM6.5 days, we had a super application called co0kies Home tab and most old folks would agree with me that this app rocked. Today that kind of sense modding is over UNLESS we flash a new ROM.
Is the sense Modding a DEAD END or is ROM development the only choice????
With this thread lets highlight and point to some of our incredible developers that we would love to have the following features and real mods in our dear sense package NATIVELY via tweak or apps.
Ability to hide status bar like in all other launchers merely by a gesture.
Ability to add delete number of homescreen pages WITHOUT ROM flashing.
Ability to lock / hide the Notificatios tab besdies the "Quick Settings" tab in the new Sense status bar.
Ability to change icons and their names as in all other launchers.
Ability to sort apps and hide apps from Ap drawer.
Ability to auto hide the Sense ARC at the bottom of the screen much like the Windows taskbar on pc.
Ability to change grid size in respect of coloumns and rows. Also very much achievable in almost all launchers.
The ability to change widget sizes as available in Go launcher and others.
3D rendering of weather on lockscreen. It would be nice to have EYE POPPING weather animations on lockscreen suing full 3d capabilities. I can do the 3D Rendering if any dev is interested in development
Please post simlar sense 3.0 mods you would like to have natively in sense 3.0 launcher and lets catch the interest of developers.
I think one highly desirable mod is workspace size, 5x5, 5x6..etc.. I've been working on it for a while with not much success..
I always seem to run into problems with recompiling Rosie. If I decompile a Rosie.apk with dependencies, then try to immediately recompile, the size is always significantly different (~1.8mb vs ~12mb). I've went ahead and made changes to some of the xml files within, but the size is always way off when it is recompiled...if it gets that far and doesn't throw an error...
It would be awesome if a more experienced dev could take this on or offer some guidance..
I think we all can agree 4x4 sucks on a qHD screen.
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updated the first post with it.
Also added the 3d weather animation lockscreen. I can do the rendering of 3d if any dev is interested.
LETS KEEP SENSE ALIVE
Sounds good have you anything ready for testing?
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I totally agre. Im getting tired of using sense and not being able to change certain aspects of it that should have been changable from the get go. Sense is gret but it needs to be greter" so im sure that some other devs here that have the awesome knowledge will soon begin to consider these things. I am willing to donate for this type of work when the project begins. This is a great convo starter and im glad someone has came to point this out.
The only thing I would like is to be able to resize widgets if is even possible.
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I totally agre. Im getting tired of using sense and not being able to change certain aspects of it that should have been changable from the get go. Sense is gret but it needs to be greter" so im sure that some other devs here that have the awesome knowledge will soon begin to consider these things. I am willing to donate for this type of work when the project begins. This is a great convo starter and im glad someone has came to point this out.
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Yess. We can see different ROMS exploring different things. But at the same time we see different launchers providing functionalities which are awesome.
SENSE 3.0 as a launcher is dying out. We have themes for sense and that is all. Launcher functionality is Sense is limited. We had an excellent program called co0kies hometab for WM 6.5 and it allowed all types of customizations. However, most people today feel easy to download an alternative launcher over sense 3.0.
Lets keep this launcher alive.
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The only thing I would like is to be able to resize widgets if is even possible.
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Its possible in Go launcher. I have already added it to the top post.
pamplinas said:
The only thing I would like is to be able to resize widgets if is even possible.
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I think it is possible, it was done on older versions of Sense..The widgets size themselves according to the layout size. You can't resize them on demand tho.
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Its odd how sense 3.0 has an edit button when u long press on an icon or widget but u cant always use it and that grinds my gears because i feel it being mostly pointless of it being there. I hope it changes to have better functionality instead of a ui change like in the supposedly leaked sense 3.5. What a nightmare that is. Lol
I would like the rgb color widget that's in cyanagen mod so you can make your phone just one color like blue or green or red. Also if some can find me some pngs of the death star rotating I will make a star wars themed lock screen
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mayfield103 said:
I would like the rgb color widget that's in cyanagen mod so you can make your phone just one color like blue or green or red. Also if some can find me some pngs of the death star rotating I will make a star wars themed lock screen
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This app I found on the market can provide the color rendering screen effect. Here's a link to the free/demo version, the full is $0.99
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Just tested Go launcher. Apart from htc widgets, all wallpapers and live wallpapers from HTC including weather and htc hub is accessible from the GO launcher.
Plus HTC lock screen is also there with weather.
I wish OUR SENSE has these features.
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Back in the WM6.5 days, we had a super application called co0kies Home tab and most old folks would agree with me that this app rocked. Today that kind of sense modding is over UNLESS we flash a new ROM.
Is the sense Modding a DEAD END or is ROM development the only choice????
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"Old folks" ? LOL Dude... the cookie home tab mod was release almost a year ago in November (for the 2.0 ver). That's not THAT long ago.. LOL
Development for Rosie is not going too far because we don't have a cookiemonster equivalent in the Android world. All real modding is done in smali and I only know of ONE guy that can do serious modding to it.. RomanBB.
Unless we get someone like cookiemonster, Sense modding will never take off.
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"Old folks" ? LOL Dude... the cookie home tab mod was release almost a year ago in November (for the 2.0 ver). That's not THAT long ago.. LOL
Development for Rosie is not going too far because we don't have a cookiemonster equivalent in the Android world. All real modding is done in smali and I only know of ONE guy that can do serious modding to it.. RomanBB.
Unless we get someone like cookiemonster, Sense modding will never take off.
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^^^
whoa. energy you got a 3D ???!!!
/me prays for cookies
No.... I got a Sensation. But I also have a ROM ready for the 3D Just need some good testers...
sign me up as a beta.
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No.... I got a Sensation. But I also have a ROM ready for the 3D Just need some good testers...
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HOLY CRAP...You are bringing back memories of my WinMo days
I am up for beta testing as well!! I ran your ROMs on my TP2...
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BTW, OP...nobody messes with Sense since it's so much easier to just drop Launcher, Luancher Pro, ADW, etc in the ROM, instead.
Hi all,
Recently received my HTC Flyer in the mail, and the first thing I did was install LeeDroid Honeycomb (holding off on the ICS ROMs for now, as they are still working out some bugs/issues with the ROMS) . I see that you can download something to remove the HTC Sense UI on LeeDroid.
This is my first foray into HTC products, and I sort of like the way Sense looks (particularly the clock/weather widget). However, my suspicion is that the Flyer might run faster if I removed Sense altogether. Judging by the other threads on the Desire, Sensation and Shift forums, people do seem to think that Sense uses more resources, though some people do like the apps and widgets available.
For those of you on LeeDroid, did you opt to keep or remove Sense? Why did you make that decision? Were there any apps/widgets, etc. that are only available on Sense that convinced you to leave Sense on the Flyer?
No Sense to remove Sense?
There is no rational reason to remove Sense, it won't speed your device or make it "snappier" because the Flyer has gobs of memory., if you want to use a different launcher, install what you wish and you can toggle back and forth at will. Sense has a few unique widgets like the email widget that you cannot find anywhere else at any price and of course the Pen functions if you use that.
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There is no rational reason to remove Sense, it won't speed your device or make it "snappier" because the Flyer has gobs of memory., if you want to use a different launcher, install what you wish and you can toggle back and forth at will. Sense has a few unique widgets like the email widget that you cannot find anywhere else at any price and of course the Pen functions if you use that.
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Thanks for your thoughts!
Removing Sense from an HTC device is like buying a Ferrari and saying, "I love this car, but I'm gonna trash the engine and install this motor my brother-in-law Billy built in his basement."
I use the stock launcher; I like the look and feel of it. Lee makes that available via a different file and it's just an app install. I do occassionally miss the Calendar and Mail widgets, but Jorte is a suitable repalcement for me and the Mail app pulls all my Mail account up properly.
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Hi all,
Recently received my HTC Flyer in the mail, and the first thing I did was install LeeDroid Honeycomb (holding off on the ICS ROMs for now, as they are still working out some bugs/issues with the ROMS) . I see that you can download something to remove the HTC Sense UI on LeeDroid.
This is my first foray into HTC products, and I sort of like the way Sense looks (particularly the clock/weather widget). However, my suspicion is that the Flyer might run faster if I removed Sense altogether. Judging by the other threads on the Desire, Sensation and Shift forums, people do seem to think that Sense uses more resources, though some people do like the apps and widgets available.
For those of you on LeeDroid, did you opt to keep or remove Sense? Why did you make that decision? Were there any apps/widgets, etc. that are only available on Sense that convinced you to leave Sense on the Flyer?
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On my previous HTC device I never liked Sense except for the widgets. However, on the Flyer I am using it and rather enjoy it. My opinion would be to keep it on, use it for a while, try out the stock launcher provided as a comparison, and if for some reason you don't want it than there is always the option to remove. One of the things that does bug me about Sense compared to other custom launchers is no resize of widgets and no native folder support.
I am currently a Desire HD user and there are quite a few aspects of Sense which I like. Primarily it is the Sense widgets which make it shine above the other offering.
How do the Touchwiz widgets compare? In particular I'm very attached to the social media widgets in Sense - namely FriendStream and Twitter. The widgets provided by the Facebook and Twitter apps are shocking in comparison to those on Sense so I'd be interested to know how the Touchwiz ones compare - or if Touchwiz even has them.
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I am currently a Desire HD user and there are quite a few aspects of Sense which I like. Primarily it is the Sense widgets which make it shine above the other offering.
How do the Touchwiz widgets compare? In particular I'm very attached to the social media widgets in Sense - namely FriendStream and Twitter. The widgets provided by the Facebook and Twitter apps are shocking in comparison to those on Sense so I'd be interested to know how the Touchwiz ones compare - or if Touchwiz even has them.
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TouchWiz doesn't have any particular built-in social networking features, like Sense does, so you'd have to go with the ones that you'll get off the market (not necessarily the official apps). Other than this, the provided TouchWiz widgets (including calendar, tasks, alarms, music player and flashlight, to name a few) are good, I don't know how they'd compare to the ones from Sense, though.
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TouchWiz doesn't have any particular built-in social networking features, like Sense does, so you'd have to go with the ones that you'll get off the market (not necessarily the official apps). Other than this, the provided TouchWiz widgets (including calendar, tasks, alarms, music player and flashlight, to name a few) are good, I don't know how they'd compare to the ones from Sense, though.
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That is disappointing because all the ones I've tried are garbage in comparison to Sense.
Anyone know any good Facebook and Twitter widgets?
there are roms getting ready and bettef day by day
in that devs have ported htc sense to galXy s3
so......soon enugh
Daz555 said:
That is disappointing because all the ones I've tried are garbage in comparison to Sense.
Anyone know any good Facebook and Twitter widgets?
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try friendcaster and twedt caster
looking for the sense weather widget
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You could try android pro widgets from the market I found them to pretty good sense replacements. I came from desire and touchwiz was a bit of a big change after 2 years with HTC.
You can also get a theme called "graphic dark" for it which give a sense colour theme to the widgets.
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+1 for Android Pro Widgets, although there are enough Sense-style widgets out there for just about everything.
Must admit that I'm a serious apartheid eugenics lunatic ("lunatic" seems somewhat tautological with respect to these terms, granted...) when it comes to TW and Sense - each should stay with their own kind.
Segregation now and forever!
Yours faithfully,
Android George Wallace
thanks for the reply. what im looking for is the sense full screen weather when u first wake up the phone. i didnt see it on android pro widgets.
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+1 for Android Pro Widgets, although there are enough Sense-style widgets out there for just about everything.
Must admit that I'm a serious apartheid eugenics lunatic ("lunatic" seems somewhat tautological with respect to these terms, granted...) when it comes to TW and Sense - each should stay with their own kind.
Segregation now and forever!
Yours faithfully,
Android George Wallace
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Yes Sense or Senseless no half sense .
jje
thank you.
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