Hi,
This is a question for all the Devs out there....
I was wondering if it is possible, to somehow change a setting on the phone, to significantly boost reception strength on both the mobile network and a 3G connectivity.
Now i know this would (if possible) come at a significant cost of battery as well... this is fine, as i would only want to use it at my work desk, where i have my phone plugged into a power socket the whole day anyways.
So the signal boosting would have to be a switchable function (if its possible at all) so that when i finish work for the day, i would then be able to switch it back to "normal" and not "boosted"
Its a weird request, and like i said i am not sure if its even possible, but any help or a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. I am sure i am not alone in the desire for such a function.
Edit: i found a bit of info in another thread, about a different phone.... but i dont understand it, nor know if it has any relevance to this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924440
Thanks in advance,
Does anyone have this solution as i require it as well for T-Mobile UK as well
I am running 2.3.4
Thank You
anyone have any idea?
isn't it dependent on the modem being used?
Yeh its very modem file dependant. But i am sure there would be a way to give the signal a boost from changing some system files somewhere inside the phone.
Changing the amount of power required to boost the signal would be a great start, but like i said, i am not a developer, but it would be good if a developer could have a look at this, and see whether it is possible or not.
The 9100T modems have a higher SAR (radiation) value, from what I read or understand is really a function of the power output/transmission. As these are specific modems for the T versions, I'm sure you could boost and fine tune other modems in a similar way. The carrier might have to support it for it to work properly though.
Trade of might be higher battery drain and radiation.
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The modem firmware, where you would have to edit stuff, is a binary, and undocumented. You would have to put it though a hex editor.
Not many people have the knowhow, and those who do know that its a basically imposable task.
ahh ok fair enough.
I figured it would be possible, but wondered why it had never been attempted. If its as stated above, then chances are it most likely wont be figured out or attempted anytime soon.
Thanks for the insight guys, appreciate it all.
Cheers
But Orange do some sort of booster though i have no idea what it involves .
jje
JJEgan said:
But Orange do some sort of booster though i have no idea what it involves .
jje
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It involves using wifi to take calls and send texts. Instead of mobile data.
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I read that Eugenes froyo ROM has the FM radio apk, and it actually produces static, which means the radio is actually being powered and sending back some sort of signal. Maybe the app is just tuning to the wrong stations(in asia they use even numbered bands). Maybe all we need to do is modify the apk to tune to odd numbered bands?
Porting libs did not seem to produce any results but i also read the "cross flashing" the kernal of the galaxy s and the vibrant could produce some results.
Any dev wanna get cracking on this?
Hey idk if you've read through this yet but check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738318
just showing you since its related.
In the FMRadio settings in the app you can select your region. The FM radio shows up in android.policy.jar, services.jar, framework.jar. I decompiled all 3 from the i9000 dump and the Vibrant and ran a diff on the smali files. The only difference I have found between the 2 the device names present which are just text strings. So everything is on my phone. When I press play or try scanning for stations the phone restarts before anything is sent to logcat I am stumped atm.
This is everything I have found that has to do with fmradio that is on my phone right now:
*/etc/asound.conf
*android.policy.jar, services.jar, framework.jar
*/lib/modules/Si4709_driver.ko
*/system/lib/libfmradio_jni.so
*/system/bin/si4709_test
*/system/app/FMRadio.apk (deodexed)
*uncommented fm radio module in the init.rc
*Secret code *#*#0368#*#*
Maybe its disabled in the actual Broadcomm chip? Maybe we would need to enable it via JTAG?
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Maybe its disabled in the actual Broadcomm chip? Maybe we would need to enable it via JTAG?
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I don't think jtag is even necessary. The bcm4329 it set to download a firmware every time it is loaded, so it would be just a matter of finding the right firmware (currently in /system/etc/wifi) and/or nvram settings (.txt files in that same dir). THere are some interesting settings in there (i9000 version actually has comments), but nothing seems directly related to FMradio. In fact, most strings are the same between the vibrant and galaxy.
OR there is a setting in the 1st bootloader (boot.bin) that changes the address of the FMradio part.
Also, when I loaded eugene's froyo rom, I did NOT hear static. I didn't get the "cannot turn on fm radio" message, but nothing else happens either. Although there are no reboots during 'si4709_test -p up' like in stock vibrant.
Also, I've played with a few things in the kernel/si4709 driver. One doesn't seem to make any change, another causes the phone to reboot
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// FM radio reset pin control
//s3c_gpio_slp_cfgpin(GPIO_FM_RST, S3C_GPIO_SLP_PREV);
Uncomment that in 'wm8994_aries.c'. Recompile. Flash zImage. No change.
Like I speculated in the THINKTANK thread, stock 4709/kernel expect the FM radio at ic2-8, 0x20 but there is no such device in the vibrant. There is an unclaimed device in i2c-12, but changing the si4709 code to point to that and I get reboots during an attempted scan.
No 9000 teardowns I've seen metion the si4709 so I can only assume that samsung uses the si4709 kernel module to interface with the bcm4329 via i2c.
I would like to try loading the 4329 fw from the gxs on the vibrant and see if that changes anything.
Other than this, most stuff seems the same in the code.
radiotime
have any of you considered just getting radiotime. its a program that has radio through streaming data. and if ur local stations have streaming audio it would show up in the local stations tab. i use it. its really ok. yest it uses the data portion of the phone. i understand you guys are trying to figure out to use the phones antenna for local stations. but in the meantime if interested. try google'in the program radiotime.
Im personally less concerned with the receiver then the transmitter, and getting the receiver working is just a step towards that theoretical wonder
You cant transmit FM radio using an app. You need the actual radio working. imagine being in a car and listening to music over your amazing car speakers rather than headphones.
You sir entirely miss the point.
No one wants to use data.they want the fm radio.
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have any of you considered just getting radiotime. its a program that has radio through streaming data. and if ur local stations have streaming audio it would show up in the local stations tab. i use it. its really ok. yest it uses the data portion of the phone. i understand you guys are trying to figure out to use the phones antenna for local stations. but in the meantime if interested. try google'in the program radiotime.
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i knew what the point was. i was just giving a suggestion in the meanwhile if ppl wanted local radio on their phone. i dont need ur lame sense to tell me that. i understand this thread was to use the phones receiver to transmit without using data.
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i knew what the point was. i was just giving a suggestion in the meanwhile if ppl wanted local radio on their phone. i dont need ur lame sense to tell me that. i understand this thread was to use the phones receiver to transmit without using data. i dont need to hear some chode like you to give me rude remarks. ive been on this forum longer than you have. dont put yourself in the same folks that are rude on this forum. take ur sh*t elsewhere
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Rofl.... Grow up... Theres no need for these "mines bigger than yours" arguments.
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that i know theres no need whos bigger deal arguement. i still dont need to hear crap from a rude person either.
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that i know theres no need whos bigger deal arguement. i still dont need to hear crap from a rude person either.
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The only rude one here so far has been you. If we wanted to stream, we already know there are tons of options. We don't wasn't streaming. We want fm radio.
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Personally I couldn't care less about receiving FM....but DAMN I would like FM transmitting since my car doesn't have an AUX jack for the stereo.
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that i know theres no need whos bigger deal arguement. i still dont need to hear crap from a rude person either.
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shut up... he wasnt being rude at all. you were completely missing the point of this thread and subsequently pretending to know it all afterwards. What you need is a good *****slap.
Anyway, does anyone know the person who originally got the FM radio working on the Nexus One? Maybe he can give us a few pointers?
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i knew what the point was. i was just giving a suggestion in the meanwhile if ppl wanted local radio on their phone. i dont need ur lame sense to tell me that. i understand this thread was to use the phones receiver to transmit without using data.
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Hello, I have been on the planet longer than you.
The point here is to find a. Whether the fm chip is present. B. Whether it can be activated and used. And c. How to apply that knowledge into a rom form or apk to avoid heavy data usage of streaming. The obvious radio streaming apps though having a similar application are not necessarily helpful in this thread.
Good day.
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sevenvt said:
Hello, I have been on the planet longer than you.
The point here is to find a. Whether the fm chip is present. B. Whether it can be activated and used. And c. How to apply that knowledge into a rom form or apk to avoid heavy data usage of streaming. The obvious radio streaming apps though having a similar application are not necessarily helpful in this thread.
Good day.
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as long as people fight like this daily, I can be a bit more patient on 2.2.... keep up the entertainment... we almost need a standalone flaming thread where you can just jump in and put someone on blast...
*yawn*
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Man I love XDA. You just cannot buy entertainment like this. Tribalb you get the prize for forum dunce for today, but don't worry many are lined up to take your title.
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Whatever. I was sooo done with this. Good luck to the dev that actually gets this done.
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I am experiencing a problem with the speakerphone. The buzzing noise that is known to happen on GSM devises when u r close to speakers, TV's, radios etc is happening when I turn on the speakerphone. Is this a known problem for GSM TP2 devices running android? Is there a fix or will I just have to deal with it till it gets worked out?
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I have done some testing and lots of reading. Its seems that the "GSM BUZZ" only happens on the 2G network. I will explain exactly what I am experiencing, when I am on the phone if I turn on the speakerphone the speaker starts buzzing, also if I am on the phone and recieve an alert/notification or press a button the same buzz comes through the speaker and to stop it I have to turn the speakerphone on then off. This is a real problem and it is happening on both GSM devices I have access to. I need people with GSM devices to do test so we can see if this is happening on all GSM devices. All I need is for u to make a call with 3G turned off or if u do not have 3G access simply turn the speakerphone on and report what happens. Also make a call and press a key, I belive that if keytones are enabled the buzz will happen and if not it will be buzz free. Somehow sounds are turning on the speaker while on the phone. Lets get this fixed!
You have a giant WinMo6.5 logo in your sig... Why don't you stick to WinMo?
Does it happen in WinMo? I don't have any speakerphone issues, but I'm on CDMA.
I asked for help not a smartass comment. stop being condescending towards people just cause u have a little knowledge. if all ur gonna do is talk down to others than y even post anything? u can go ahead and come back with another post trying to put me down but all it will do is make me laugh. please do not post unless u are willing to help me understand my problem. I know u think ur routine of accusing people off not reading before posting makes u feel like a man but to other u come of as a douche bag.
Now to answer ur question, CDMA devices so not genrerate the buzz through TVs and speakers that GSM devices do. My question was asking y the known buzz comes through the speakerphone. its almost like android thinks the speaketphone is part of another device.
now ur other question, I don't stick to WM for the same reason everyone else doesn't, my device allows me to do things like boot android and Ubuntu so I have the freedom to choose my OS.
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I asked for help not a smartass comment. stop being condescending towards people just cause u have a little knowledge. if all ur gonna do is talk down to others than y even post anything? u can go ahead and come back with another post trying to put me down but all it will do is make me laugh. please do not post unless u are willing to help me understand my problem. I know u think ur routine of accusing people off not reading before posting makes u feel like a man but to other u come of as a douche bag.
Now to answer ur question, CDMA devices so not genrerate the buzz through TVs and speakers that GSM devices do. My question was asking y the known buzz comes through the speakerphone. its almost like android thinks the speaketphone is part of another device.
now ur other question, I don't stick to WM for the same reason everyone else doesn't, my device allows me to do things like boot android and Ubuntu so I have the freedom to choose my OS.
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You obviously do not what you're talking about.
Plus, I asked a simple question and you failed to answer it in your long drawn out whining post. Meh.
FYI, CDMA devices produce a similar noise in other devices, not sure why you think that's isolated to GSM. iDEN does the same thing - perhaps the frequency is different, never really looked into it.
Your sig just makes me think you prefer WinMo, and kinda makes me giggle as it is comically large.
Well, I've got a bit of the same problem. But it only occurs when I'm either ending the call or when i have to touch the touchscreen during the call. Then it just goes haywire and give the bzzzz noise..
Running Froyo Red..
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You obviously do not what you're talking about.
Plus, I asked a simple question and you failed to answer it in your long drawn out whining post. Meh.
FYI, CDMA devices produce a similar noise in other devices, not sure why you think that's isolated to GSM. iDEN does the same thing - perhaps the frequency is different, never really looked into it.
Your sig just makes me think you prefer WinMo, and kinda makes me giggle as it is comically large.
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i do know what i am talkin about. its called "THE GSM BUZZ" cause it happens on gsm devices.
i am so sorry i did not get ur approval before postin my sig. u remind me of one of those kids that feel bad about ther self so they try to insult other to make themselves feel better. u picked the wrong one. i ain't puttin up with ur ****. u may get a pass from other cause u helped a few people but u r constantly being rude to anyone that ask a simple question. ur way is not always right.
i asked for help not for comments on my sig or to be told to stick with a certain OS. this is America and i can like two things at once. yes i love WM but if i wanna use android on my device i will and do not need u to make up my mind for me. if u wanna help me get to the bottom of this buzzing noise fix this problem then cool but i do not need ur condecending remarks.
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You obviously do not what you're talking about.
Plus, I asked a simple question and you failed to answer it in your long drawn out whining post. Meh.
FYI, CDMA devices produce a similar noise in other devices, not sure why you think that's isolated to GSM. iDEN does the same thing - perhaps the frequency is different, never really looked into it.
Your sig just makes me think you prefer WinMo, and kinda makes me giggle as it is comically large.
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Actually, I'd be shocked if a CDMA device actually caused the "GSM buzz" in other devices - Interference maybe, but not the distinctive buzz. It's due to differences in the channel access schemes between CDMA (To be specific, ANY form of CDMA, whether it is Qualcomm CDMA2000 or UMTS) and GSM (iDEN is similar to GSM)
CDMA systems a channel access scheme that has all devices transmitting continuously when active, but using special coding so that the receiver at the cell tower is able to "pick out" the individual handset signals. Since the device is transmitting continuously, the RF power envelope is fairly constant.
2G GSM/EDGE (not UMTS), iDEN, and the long obsolete D-AMPS use a different channel access scheme, time division multiple access. Each handset is assigned a time slot (or slots for EDGE) to transmit in. On a given channel, a set of slots is contained within a frame. Each time a phone's assigned spot in a frame comes up, it transmits. The end result is that the RF envelope pulses on for a short period every frame. Many other devices will rectify and filter the RF (unintentionally) resulting in a signal that follows the RF envelope - a low duty cycle square wave with a frequency equal to the frame repetition rate.
I have no clue why a device would cause such interference to itself in only one OS. It's not an issue anyone else has encountered to my knowledge. Original poster has a pretty poor attitude and atrocious grammar that is difficult to read. (People who can't be bothered to type out the word "you" really bother me for some reason...)
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Actually, I'd be shocked if a CDMA device actually caused the "GSM buzz" in other devices - Interference maybe, but not the distinctive buzz. It's due to differences in the channel access schemes between CDMA (To be specific, ANY form of CDMA, whether it is Qualcomm CDMA2000 or UMTS) and GSM (iDEN is similar to GSM)
CDMA systems a channel access scheme that has all devices transmitting continuously when active, but using special coding so that the receiver at the cell tower is able to "pick out" the individual handset signals. Since the device is transmitting continuously, the RF power envelope is fairly constant.
2G GSM/EDGE (not UMTS), iDEN, and the long obsolete D-AMPS use a different channel access scheme, time division multiple access. Each handset is assigned a time slot (or slots for EDGE) to transmit in. On a given channel, a set of slots is contained within a frame. Each time a phone's assigned spot in a frame comes up, it transmits. The end result is that the RF envelope pulses on for a short period every frame. Many other devices will rectify and filter the RF (unintentionally) resulting in a signal that follows the RF envelope - a low duty cycle square wave with a frequency equal to the frame repetition rate.
I have no clue why a device would cause such interference to itself in only one OS. It's not an issue anyone else has encountered to my knowledge. Original poster has a pretty poor attitude and atrocious grammar that is difficult to read. (People who can't be bothered to type out the word "you" really bother me for some reason...)
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but its not just my device. my friend also has a tilt 2 and she lives in another part of the state and her speakerphone makes the same buzing noise on android. its kinda weird cause i have not seen other people askin about this problem. its just a buzzing noise that makes u not wanna use the speakerphone. also it happens if there is alerts while using the phone and then the only way to stop it is to turn the speakerphone on then off. it has to be affecting others too. it could not just be happening on two devices.
I see exactly the same thing on my rhod100 (de).
I also have another problem which existed for a long time: On some occasions, after booting to android, audio is completely gone. I test it by placing a call and checking if there is any in-call audio. Plus, on such an occasion, media files also do not make any sound, and rebooting the phone is the only solution. Enabling speakerphone does not help, even if I hear the mentioned buzzing sound.
I remember seeing something about audmgr_enable and that the arm9 did not respond to an rpc in the logs. I can post them if that happens again.
I think there are a fair number of known issues with the speakerphone.
I haven't bothered to try it myself, the only speakerphones I have ever used with acceptable audio quality are Polycoms.
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well... i have the same problem and i've tried all the android variants out there...
finally someone else that has this problem. it is a big problem for me cause it makes the speakerphone unusable. I wish someone with some knowledge would recognize this is a real problem and try to fix it. I think somehow android thinks the speaker is part of another device.
are ALL the users with this problem ONLY experiencing this issue on Android or WinMo as well?
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are ALL the users with this problem ONLY experiencing this issue on Android or WinMo as well?
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From his description, it seems to only happen in Android.
I talked to stine briefly, and he hasn't tested it - is there a bug open on it? If you really want dev attention to a problem, and there isn't already a bug, file a bug. If there is a bug, post to it and add some logs - there might be something funny going on that's easily spotted.
Also, you haven't done any triage from what I can tell - does this not happen on a certain combination of rootfs, kernel, or system image? If you can recreate a scenario of where it doesn't happen, that'll help narrow it down. If it's always been happening... it'll be more difficult, but also good to know.
One of our top kernel devs has a GSM device, he's never mentioned this issue. If I talk to him today, I'll mention it to him.
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From his description, it seems to only happen in Android.
I talked to stine briefly, and he hasn't tested it - is there a bug open on it? If you really want dev attention to a problem, and there isn't already a bug, file a bug. If there is a bug, post to it and add some logs - there might be something funny going on that's easily spotted.
Also, you haven't done any triage from what I can tell - does this not happen on a certain combination of rootfs, kernel, or system image? If you can recreate a scenario of where it doesn't happen, that'll help narrow it down. If it's always been happening... it'll be more difficult, but also good to know.
One of our top kernel devs has a GSM device, he's never mentioned this issue. If I talk to him today, I'll mention it to him.
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it happens no matter what build or combination of parts. it only happens on android anytime the speaker is on and if the speaker isn't on and any kids of alert or noise such as a button press happens the speaker comes on and buzzez till u manually turn the speakerphone on then off. basically the same noise that comes through any audio device when a GSM cell is near is comin through the speaker. i am pretty sure it only happens on 2G cause the "GSM BUZZ" does not happen with a 3G signal. if ur guy test he'll for sure hear it.
I just managed to confirm the issue on a Tilt2 - needed to force 2G.
(I almost never use speakerphone and am almost always in 3G areas so never noticed this before.)
Apparently there are some audio routing patches in the pipeline already that might fix this.
Problem gone in Android 2.3.3... works like a charm
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Problem gone in Android 2.3.3... works like a charm
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Interesting - did you ONLY change system.ext2 build, or did you also use a different kernel?
had this problem a few times (froyo) but never occurred in my last call.
I think it may have something to do with a data connection before or during the call? There are a few problems originating from data connections. Perhaps it was latest kernel that fixed it for me? Will have to wait and find out.
Hi XDA Users
I use my SGS2 for wifi tethering and I wonder if anyone can help/recommend or merely explain why the speeds I get when my laptop is connected to my phone using the in-built wifi tehering tool vary so much (please see attached picture)
Last night for instance I was achieving 1Mbps download speeds while using a torrent client but today I struggle to get 50kps.
Is there an app to show me what speed the phone is connected to my laptop is and in anyway control the settings?
I don't believe the variation of 20kps to 1Mbps( it hit 1.1Mbps at 1 point) can be down to the network directly, meaning traffic etc.
I use a rooted SGS2 with DiLiDroid ICS - UHLPS rom/kernel etc, ( purely for jkay deluxe settings) on the 3UK network with Unlimited/All You Can Eat Data.
Any thoughts, explanations, recommended apps, ANY REPLY frankly will be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance guys, more than once this site has come up trumps for me here's hoping it does again
got a few ideas but it doesnt really matter why just how to fix it, try and use some different combos of wifi tethering. first you need to troubleshoot and find what the actual problem is. try it with usb tethering and see if you have the same problem. if the usb is fine then its a problem with the wifi and not the data connection, so on and so forth. you need to narrow it down until you can provide enough information so people can actually help you.
in situations like this, you havent given much info and you havent (by the looks of things) dont anything yourself to try and narrow down the problem. all youve done is noticed something isnt right and come straight here to get us to do all the work for you. i dont know why thats happening and ill be suprised if anyone can give you a definite answer. there are just so many points of failure in your problems its impossible to say which one it is without you giving way more information and doing 99% of the work to fix this problem yourself.
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got a few ideas but it doesnt really matter why just how to fix it, try and use some different combos of wifi tethering. first you need to troubleshoot and find what the actual problem is. try it with usb tethering and see if you have the same problem. if the usb is fine then its a problem with the wifi and not the data connection, so on and so forth. you need to narrow it down until you can provide enough information so people can actually help you.
in situations like this, you havent given much info and you havent (by the looks of things) dont anything yourself to try and narrow down the problem. all youve done is noticed something isnt right and come straight here to get us to do all the work for you. i dont know why thats happening and ill be suprised if anyone can give you a definite answer. there are just so many points of failure in your problems its impossible to say which one it is without you giving way more information and doing 99% of the work to fix this problem yourself.
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I don't know how to ''trouble shoot'' my problem, that is why I asked for any sort of help i.e apps that I should use to help identify the problem.
I didn't noticed a problem and come straight on here, I searched google for a good few hours but the results were not connected to my problem, which is also why I asked for tech-minded people to give me advice, I don't know where to begin.
This morning I was getting 500+kps downloads while wifi tethered so I'm certain it is not a data/network issue.
I will try usb tethering BUT I would still like any advice WHATSOEVER from anyone who may read this, cheers
That your data speeds are so variable almost certainly points to perfectly normal network/congestion related issues. This kind of thing is a frequent problem faced by users of mobile networks all over the world.
You do realise the data speeds you'll get at any given moment will be determined by a) the number of people using the cell you're connected to, b) how much traffic your carrier has going in/out of its network to the 'outside world' (and how much backhaul it has) and c) how much traffic the network that the site you're trying to access (or the people assisting you to steal copyrighted material) is experiencing.
These factors will naturally/obviously cause data speeds to fluctuate much more widely on a wireless/mobile connection than they would over a wired connection.
Postfatal is absolutely right re: there's sod all anyone here could tell you to 'fix' the issue. It's basic troubleshooting. Similar steps to what you'd follow if you thought a PC internet connection wasn't up to par. Google is your friend if that kind of thing is beyond you.
Occam's Razor is normally correct.
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This morning I was getting 500+kps downloads while wifi tethered so I'm certain it is not a data/network issue.
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Rovers82517 said:
I don't know how to ''trouble shoot'' my problem, that is why I asked for any sort of help i.e apps that I should use to help identify the problem.
I didn't noticed a problem and come straight on here, I searched google for a good few hours but the results were not connected to my problem, which is also why I asked for tech-minded people to give me advice, I don't know where to begin.
This morning I was getting 500+kps downloads while wifi tethered so I'm certain it is not a data/network issue.
I will try usb tethering BUT I would still like any advice WHATSOEVER from anyone who may read this, cheers
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try with some third party 'wifi tethering' apps from store and see if the issue persists with that also
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That your data speeds are so variable almost certainly points to perfectly normal network/congestion related issues. This kind of thing is a frequent problem faced by users of mobile networks all over the world.
You do realise the data speeds you'll get at any given moment will be determined by a) the number of people using the cell you're connected to, b) how much traffic your carrier has going in/out of its network to the 'outside world' (and how much backhaul it has) and c) how much traffic the network that the site you're trying to access (or the people assisting you to steal copyrighted material) is experiencing.
These factors will naturally/obviously cause data speeds to fluctuate much more widely on a wireless/mobile connection than they would over a wired connection.
Postfatal is absolutely right re: there's sod all anyone here could tell you to 'fix' the issue. It's basic troubleshooting. Similar steps to what you'd follow if you thought a PC internet connection wasn't up to par. Google is your friend if that kind of thing is beyond you.
Occam's Razor is normally correct.
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I seriously doubt a range of 20kps to 1.1Mbps can be down to traffic on the network, I'm backed up by thinking this because I can download on the phone directly at close to 1Mgps speeds consistently and then tether and get close to no speed at all.
It seems that if I reboot the phone and then leave it for a few minutes before turning wifi tether on it will connect at a higher speed, I would love a way of ''forcing'' the phone to connect at it's highest level available, but I don't know if thats possible or how I would even do a google search on it, what search terms are you suggesting? Everything I try gives unrelated results.
Sun90 said:
try with some third party 'wifi tethering' apps from store and see if the issue persists with that also
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Thanks for the advice, I will try later on but I have a poker tournament starting soon (with expected connection losses as usual to put up with, hopefully not occuring while I have a decent hand lol)
Sun90 said:
try with some third party 'wifi tethering' apps from store and see if the issue persists with that also
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USB Tethering makes no difference to the speed whatsoever, has that narrowed it enough for someone to maybe give me some advice?
Will someone please tell me what tools/apps/pc programs I can use to attempt to identuify the problem myself? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE?
The only semi-useful app I've found is UpDownMeter free, but this only tells me lol the up and down speeds, interesting but not of any use.
Come on guys you guys are smarter than me, been there done it etc, help me help dudes
Hi,
I can't find this covered anywhere, but I am thinking in theory all the hardware exists in a mobile phone to communicate with another phone without going via a base station - I'm thinking a walkie talkie type thing. Phones have transmitters and receivers, so the hardware is all there as far as I can see. Does anyone know if the developer has access to the hardware on this level in order to do this as an app? Even in theory?
I know it would be possible (not necessarily easy!) using bluetooth or wifi signals, but a mobile is capable of transmitting much further with its hardware, so I wondered as an emergency thing, would it even be possible?
Thanks for your time
good question,
I dont want to think
chrisvenema said:
good question,
I dont want to think
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I think so too
What?
androidthief said:
I think so too
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Sorry guys, but is this what counts as help on these forums?
I have a serious question. Does anyone know if this is possible? Now at a glance on the forum it looks like this has been answered.
squid_fish said:
Sorry guys, but is this what counts as help on these forums?
I have a serious question. Does anyone know if this is possible? Now at a glance on the forum it looks like this has been answered.
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we're to lazy
squid_fish said:
Hi,
I can't find this covered anywhere, but I am thinking in theory all the hardware exists in a mobile phone to communicate with another phone without going via a base station - I'm thinking a walkie talkie type thing. Phones have transmitters and receivers, so the hardware is all there as far as I can see. Does anyone know if the developer has access to the hardware on this level in order to do this as an app? Even in theory?
I know it would be possible (not necessarily easy!) using bluetooth or wifi signals, but a mobile is capable of transmitting much further with its hardware, so I wondered as an emergency thing, would it even be possible?
Thanks for your time
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Theoretically it might be possible.
Smack that thanks button If I helped!
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I love my Galaxy S5 so far, but currently it's sucking at being an actual phone. On the other end of the phone line, the people I've talked to have complained of the audio sort of cutting in and out like someone is interrupting me. This happens when I'm in quiet rooms alone, so I'm confused. At first I though it was the case on my phone (Supcase), but after replicating the problem for myself, that doesn't seem to be the case. So at this point I'm not really sure if my phone is possessed or if it's a hardware problem. For reference, I'm running XtreSoLite rom and I have a few Viper4Android audio things running. I'm not sure if that could be the problem. Anyway, if someone could help me solve this issue, I'd really appreciate it. Thank you!
jtc276 said:
I love my Galaxy S5 so far, but currently it's sucking at being an actual phone. On the other end of the phone line, the people I've talked to have complained of the audio sort of cutting in and out like someone is interrupting me. This happens when I'm in quiet rooms alone, so I'm confused. At first I though it was the case on my phone (Supcase), but after replicating the problem for myself, that doesn't seem to be the case. So at this point I'm not really sure if my phone is possessed or if it's a hardware problem. For reference, I'm running XtreSoLite rom and I have a few Viper4Android audio things running. I'm not sure if that could be the problem. Anyway, if someone could help me solve this issue, I'd really appreciate it. Thank you!
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It's certainly not normal. Not with stock firmware or custom ROMs like Phoenix. I have no idea if your custom ROM is a factor, bit it seems unlikely.
Possibly your problems are reflective of being in a location with a weak and tenuous signal strength. Generally speaking dropouts and feedback are data latency issues seen more with Voip and VoLTE calls. You don't have nearly enough information to do more than guess yet.. but I would make your audio app (Viper) to be the prime suspect.
See if you can exempt voice calls from Viper or temporarily uninstall it. Also find out if any background apps are using high CPU and in particular if any audio apps are set to high priority. Find out if you arwe using VoLTE. CPU (power saving) apps?
If you can't narrow it down, make a backup and then revert to 100% stock to rule out hardware issues. Then install apps one at a time, watching for the issue to return. You could also open a carrier support ticket to see if your account is misconfigured, using a low grade codec, etc.
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fffft said:
It's certainly not normal. Not with stock firmware or custom ROMs like Phoenix. I have no idea if your custom ROM is a factor, bit it seems unlikely.
Possibly your problems are reflective of being in a location with a weak and tenuous signal strength. Generally speaking dropouts and feedback are data latency issues seen more with Voip and VoLTE calls. You don't have nearly enough information to do more than guess yet.. but I would make your audio app (Viper) to be the prime suspect.
See if you can exempt voice calls from Viper or temporarily uninstall it. Also find out if any background apps are using high CPU and in particular if any audio apps are set to high priority. Find out if you arwe using VoLTE. CPU (power saving) apps?
If you can't narrow it down, make a backup and then revert to 100% stock to rule out hardware issues. Then install apps one at a time, watching for the issue to return. You could also open a carrier support ticket to see if your account is misconfigured, using a low grade codec, etc.
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Thank you for all of this! I'm having an unfortunate week because I'm actually away from home and have very limited internet access, so factory resetting my phone isn't currently an option. However, I did turn VoLTE off and I'll be wiping my cache because I read somewhere that might work. I'll also be watching my apps, but I'm not sure that's the problem. I generally have the same apps on all of the phones I use and this is the only phone people have said I sound bad on. And I don't think Viper is the culprit either because I've disabled it and nothing has changed. So hopefully turning off VoLTE works or simply wiping the cache does the trick. If not, I'll definitely do everything that you recommended because I want to avoid RMAing this device at all costs.
It seems that a factory reset solved the problem. I still have no idea what the problem was, though, but I'm happy it seems to be gone.
So the problem has returned. I factory reset once again and it hasn't done the trick. Everyone is describing it as an echo and telling me they can hear themselves echoing when they speak, although it sounds fine on my end. I don't know what else to do. I have:
Factory reset
Taken the sim out and put it back in
Changed APNs
I don't know what else I can do. Really hoping I don't have to RMA this device. Does anyone know how Samsung is with RMAs?
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Still having this problem. I hope there's someone out there who knows how to fix it.
you ain't alone mine was fine for a while then after the new update it came back i call t-mobile.they put in a open repair tickets as others around my town also complain.my signal is always -114 to -119.they have heard it it when i call them.i get the echo or it brakes up or call turns into noise and then calls drop and they have to call me back on house phone they claim it is a tower/signal issue.??
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Still having this problem. I hope there's someone out there who knows how to fix it.
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i had this on my first two handsets it happened in the first 14 days so i had no trouble going into tmo store and exchanging it twice. people could not hear me and the echo was really bad. third s5 call quality super clear now.
been you had exchange the phone and new one working fine what software is it on NF6 or the new NG3 that would tell us a lot???before i downgrade back to the nf6
420soljah808 said:
i had this on my first two handsets it happened in the first 14 days so i had no trouble going into tmo store and exchanging it twice. people could not hear me and the echo was really bad. third s5 call quality super clear now.
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I had this same issue as well. I could hear people jsut fine, but when they tried to talk to me, be it over tmo network or through wifi calling, they heard bad echoes and noise. I even did as you did; factory reset and it sorta worked. When it happened again, I cleared caches (the official fix from tmo 611) and that worked for a couple hours. Eventually, they told me to take it back to the store and get a replacement.
I believe it's a hardware issue related to the mic; here's why:
When I'm in my car and on bluetooth people on other end hear me just fine and crystal clear. When I used a bluetooth headset, same thing. As soon as I disconnect from BT and go to just the normal mic, echo pops in.
One thing you can do is call 611 and use the voice prompts. It was so bad on my end that the voice prompts picked up itself (well the echoes from the voice prompts). If you do and the voice prompt system routs you even when you don't say anything (it routes your call because of the echoes) then you definitely have a bad handset.
I was rooted, custom recovery, knox tripped and mailed my phone in. Nothing happened. But they did charge me $20 for a return/replacement fee. The new phone I got works no problem.