Typing in Android - TouchPad General

I was genuinely impressed by how easy landscape typing was in WebOS. I certainly couldn't hit regular keyboard speeds, but it was plenty fast enough for note-taking and the occasional blogging.
However in Android (both xron and regular CM) I've tried every keyboard I can find but the typing is always terrible. Anything faster than a few WPM and Android just starts skipping characters altogether as if it can't keep up.
What is everyone else's experience? Any keyboard that work better than others? Is this something that might improve in ICS?
Thanks all!
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Which keyboards have you tried already?

Have you tried AI Tablet keyboard? The split screen mode is the best tablet typing experience out there IMO.

I use the " Hackers Keyboard". Pretty good !!!
It's in the market and free
https://market.android.com/details?...9yZy5wb2NrZXR3b3Jrc3RhdGlvbi5wY2tleWJvYXJkIl0.

OMG typing in webos is slow and painful. In android its nice and smooth.
I'm referring to on screen. With keyboard in webos its smooth, android no idea I cannot get the keyboard to connect.
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Check out go keyboard that seemed pretty OK on the phone but on a tablet its probably better. Hackers keyboard I loved but on the phone it was a little tight feeling, I forgot about that I'm gonna try that on my tablet ill bet it fills out nicely on that.
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I use and love thumb keyboard, but to be fair that is only for browsing and very casual use. I have the HP BT Keyboard for notes, doc writing, etc.

I second Thumb Keyboard... it's fast, works on both phones and tablets, has a bunch of themes, and a ton of customization options. I haven't actually tried the AI Tablet Keyboard beta that's in the market but looking at the screenshots, what's up with the split layout? There's so much unused space... Thumb KB puts a number pad, arrows, and common symbols there.

+1 for thumb keyboard...best keyboard for tablet..and i write emails, chat and etc....

I have to second AI Tablet keyboard
Hands down best keyboard I've used on this tablet - closest in experience to webOS keyboard, which I loved.
Once we have ICS the logitech touch keyboard will be tops. (IMO)
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.logitech.touchkeyboard
Just wish I had a way to get it now.

not really a solution but i notice a lot less lag when using a bluetooth keyboard. i always wondered if there was a setting that could be tweaked re: key presses.

frook40 said:
I use the " Hackers Keyboard". Pretty good !!!
It's in the market and free
https://market.android.com/details?...9yZy5wb2NrZXR3b3Jrc3RhdGlvbi5wY2tleWJvYXJkIl0.
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I use this one as well. On my Droid 3 there are arrow keys on the physical keyboard and I never realized how much I rely on arrow keys until I started using a soft keyboard without them. The Hacker's Keyboard is also nice if you are working in a dos emulator since it has all of the IBM/PC keys.

Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll give AI Keyboard and Thumb Keyboard a try.
I've tried GO Keyboard, Hacker's Keyboard, Swiftkey, SlideIT, and Perfect Keyboard. They're not bad keyboards in terms of interface, but they simply can't keep up with my typing speed - dropping two out of three letters :s

I think the major issue here is that something is wonky with the touchscreen implementation . Like when you are on a webpage and you place your finger still on the screen and the page jitters all over the place. Pretty sure that issue is what makes typing in android annoying.
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muyoso said:
i think the major issue here is that something is wonky with the touchscreen implementation . Like when you are on a webpage and you place your finger still on the screen and the page jitters all over the place. Pretty sure that issue is what makes typing in android annoying.
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+1 !

Keyboard from Android 2.3 + by Kevin Lin is the fastest keyboard I've used. In 'advanced settings' 'keyboard layout' set the key height to 80 for perfect touch typing on a tablet in landscape mode.
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That seems like a pretty big deal, I imagine devs are investigating it? Or is it a hopeless driver problem like with Wifi?
Thanks again for the suggestions everyone!
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rogabean said:
I have to second AI Tablet keyboard
Hands down best keyboard I've used on this tablet - closest in experience to webOS keyboard, which I loved.
Once we have ICS the logitech touch keyboard will be tops. (IMO)
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.logitech.touchkeyboard
Just wish I had a way to get it now.
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I get "your device isn't compatible " on the market. Looks like a cool app.

SlideIT is a good keyboard

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Keyboard annoyances

Hi,
When I first got the prime, i noticed very quickly that I couldn't type on the onscreen keyboard nearly as fast as on the ipad.
I then noticed the reason was because if I hit the black bar at the bottom of the tablet instead of space by accident, it would close the keyboard.
However if you use the default google keyboard instead of the asus one, hitting the black bar results in a space making typing a LOT easier and faster.
Does anyone know of a way to fix this? I would rather use the asus one as I like the numbers available at the top.
Has anyone had problems with the dock keyboard too? I find sometimes some of the letters don't respond no matter what i try.
Thanks
Kevin
It's called use or make a different one that more closely matches your tastes/needs. I use Hacker's, and sometimes SwiftKey.
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One nice thing about Android's openness, you are not confined to any particular on screen keyboard. When I'm not docked, I'll use the thumbs keyboard (I forget the exact name). But when I'm using ConnectBot, its easier for me to use the hackers keyboard. Mostly, however I use my dock because I touch type the best that way (used to certain feedback a physical keyboard provides).
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Thumb Keyboard FTW
Down load swype and fly though your typing!!!
Yeah I have thumb keyboard too and yeah it's good. Has everyone else noticed that prob with the main keyboard then? Such an oversight. Most other keyboards actually ignore when you hit the bottom bar which doesn't help either and that includes thumb and hackers. The google one is the only one I feel that gets it right, I.e. making the bottom bar a space bar as well.
Does anyone else have a problem with the docked keyboard when sometimes certain letters just won't work?
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Which keyboard do you use?

Stock is ok....but still stock
Swype is nice but a little slow on the tab
Thumb keyboard has a great layout but no word predictions
Anyone try swiftkey tablet version?
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Have been used to Thumb Keyboard and it does have word prediction.
Swiftkey Tablet has a month trial.
I was testing the waters to see if I was more accurate with Swiftkey but suspect that am used to Thumb Keyboard now so moving to something else was not as accurate. Am back to Thumb Keyboard.
Maybe I just like the word predictions of swiftkey more I guess
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I totally love Swiftkey on the tablet
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I love perfect keyboard. One does need to fiddle with the size to make it correct though.
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I love perfect keyboard. One does need to fiddle with the size to make it correct though.
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does it have word prediction?
i compared swiftkey to thumb keyboard for quite some time.
swiftkey just seemed to give far better predictions, although thumbkeyboards very flexible layouts are a definite plus on that side.
but i keep coming back to swiftkey x tablet. fastest and most precise imho.
some things i would like them to implement though is:
more layouts (like thumbkey)
shorctu swiping (swipe has this if you swipe from the "swype" key to "a" it selects all. swype->x=cut, swype->C=copy just like using a computer. really great. i use it a lot on my phone.
also arrow keys.
Try smart keyboard it had word prediction and arrows
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does it have word prediction?
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Sure does. Works well too.
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I'm a huge proponent of Swype, both for phones and tablets. Once you take a bit of time to learn how it behaves and predicts your words, it is a great text input method.
Thumb keyboard for me. Love the customizability and the ability to pin common phrases. Plus the top row of customizable keys that can be hidden away is nice. I use it for coding so I can easily get to keys like /,\,{,}, etc.
Tried a bunch of them: Thumb Keyboard, Perfect Keyboard, Super Keyboard, SwiftKey X Tablet.
They all have their weaknesses: some are slow, some have the keys too close together, some have punctuation marks that aren't easily accesible and some have a mandatory autocomplete which you can't turn off.
I always turn off autocomplete because I seem to always keep an eye on the words to check up on it, instead of actually typing, so I feel like I'm always slower with autocomplete.
So, for me, it's the stock keyboard simply because it's the fastest (it keeps up with my fast typing, I'm not talking about the apparent onscreen animations). It's one of the most responsive I've tried and the keys are the perfect size and spacing (this is what really counts when turning off autocomplete).
Also, every other keyboard out there, except the stock one, registers the last key that was touched, as the key pressed, when in fact the first key touched should be registered, in order to accomodate for fast typing. This is the same for my HTC Sensation stock keyboard. I've only found these 2 keyboards with this behaviour, but I think all keyboards should do the same. I regard this as a bug.
You should really try "hacker's keyboard". Is like the stock one, only better
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I also found MultiLing Keyboard to be very responsive and have the right key size/spacing to use for both my phone and my tablet. It has a nicer split layout than any of the other split keyboards.
Stock isn't that bad, but Swype does run slow compared to others I've used. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Thumb keyboard is my favorite.
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stock keyboard for me..
teomor said:
Tried a bunch of them: Thumb Keyboard, Perfect Keyboard, Super Keyboard, SwiftKey X Tablet.
They all have their weaknesses: some are slow, some have the keys too close together, some have punctuation marks that aren't easily accesible and some have a mandatory autocomplete which you can't turn off.
I always turn off autocomplete because I seem to always keep an eye on the words to check up on it, instead of actually typing, so I feel like I'm always slower with autocomplete.
So, for me, it's the stock keyboard simply because it's the fastest (it keeps up with my fast typing, I'm not talking about the apparent onscreen animations). It's one of the most responsive I've tried and the keys are the perfect size and spacing (this is what really counts when turning off autocomplete).
Also, every other keyboard out there, except the stock one, registers the last key that was touched, as the key pressed, when in fact the first key touched should be registered, in order to accomodate for fast typing. This is the same for my HTC Sensation stock keyboard. I've only found these 2 keyboards with this behaviour, but I think all keyboards should do the same. I regard this as a bug.
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For this and the fact that I find myself often writing in 3 different languages, I also use stock keyboard and autocomplete/autocorrect off.
The Word predictions of Swiftkey is so great, that I never have to type a whole word. Most of my tipping time is just hitting the words.
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I totally love Swiftkey on the tablet
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Me too. Allready using the swiftkey 3 tablet beta. For free, works fine.

Keyboard Modification

so I like the stock Samsung keyboard but I hate that they have the button on the lower right side to accept pen input. I never use it and it makes the spacebar so small that I always it a period instead of a space. anyone know if there is a way remove it so that the.space bar.is.larger....
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I don't but I'm sure others will.
On another note(LOL), I absolutely hate that keyboard. The pop up from the keys you press are so obnoxiously large, and the way the area where the auto correct disappears when you hit space and reappears when you start typing another word bugs my eyes out like crazy. I do like the size and the appearance of the keyboard. But I hate it so much it drives my eyes nuts.
The stock android one works how I'd like it too, however its incredibly small for the size of the phone.
The stock swype I like but it ****s up in apps like textfree and sometimes glitches and only takes one touch inputs making fast typing impossible.
I have go keyboard but have not used it yet. From what I see I'm not sure it has what I readdy want which I guess would be a mix of stock Samsung size. Stock android look. And swype ability that doesn't mess up. Does anyone know of that?
I agree that it does have some annoying features but so.far.for.me.the auto correct has been the best...I have been using swiftkey tablet version but the auto correct is.horrible and. rarely picks up the mistakes and fixes them correctly
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so I like the stock Samsung keyboard but I hate that they have the button on the lower right side to accept pen input. I never use it and it makes the spacebar so small that I always it a period instead of a space. anyone know if there is a way remove it so that the.space bar.is.larger....
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Ice cream sand witch keyboard from play store helps.
Also in swype go to languages and uncheck all other languages than English, this will give you more accuracy
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Swiftkey Tablet vs. Thumb Keyboard

Does anyone here use Swiftkey 3 Tablet, and do you find it laggy? There's a delay with every key stroke that slows my typing down, especially when I use it in a text editor (like Jota) and want to do fast typing. Their predictive engine is amazing, I'd swear it's psychic. It gives you three predictions even before you type a single letter of the next word. Sometimes I'll enter a whole sentence without typing a single letter, just choosing words it's predicted. If not for the lag, I'd use it every time.
Thumb Keyboard is great, zero delay when I type, their predictive engine isn't as good, it gives you a bunch of predictions, but not until you type at least one letter in the next word.
Is Swiftkey not optimized for the Nook Color? Or is there something I'm missing here?
IF you have the Swiftkey beta 3 get rid of it and install the latest released version. Beta had terrible lag. the current version for me has no lag at all.
I use also latest official Swiftkey and works just fine
Okay, it seems that Jota and Swiftkey don't work very well together, at least on my tablet. One of the reviewers for Swiftkey also mentions this. I tried Swiftkey with another text editor (NTW) and there's no lag, so I'll switch. It works fine in all my other apps. Too bad, I do like Jota. The lag is very minor, but enough to take me out of a flow when I type in Jota.
Yes, I've been using the release version, not the beta.
I was a Thumb keyboard user forever. But fiund myself constantly hitting the period key instead of the space bar, and often the b and n keys. I would have to spend time cleaning up every post. I tried Swiftkey and love it much more than my Thumb kb. Hardly any wrong keys entered and no more misplaced periods.
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Swiftkey 3 for Tablet FTW! I love it because its quite fast and thumb keyboard I hit too many buttons i didnt want to.
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Swiftkey 3 for Tablet FTW! I love it because its quite fast and thumb keyboard I hit too many buttons i didnt want to.
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I used to use swiftkey but I've hopelessly fallen in love with Swype beta. XD. To those who haven't tried it yet, you should, just Google it. Also it's free. Or you can just go the crazy route and hook up a mechanical keyboard to your nook through host mode like me. ;P
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Thumb keyboard has been working great for me in just about everything except Firefox for some reason.
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k8108 said:
I was a Thumb keyboard user forever. But fiund myself constantly hitting the period key instead of the space bar, and often the b and n keys. I would have to spend time cleaning up every post.
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Oh man, I do this all the time. Tried training myselfnto.use (see, SEE!) the left thumb for space, but still can't get it 100%. Still 5x better than stock keyboard. I may have to give swiftkey a try as per this thread.
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Keyboards on lg2

What keyboards have you guys been using for your lg2?
For my comparisons just wanted to state that I type >60 wpm on a regular keyboard and probably 30-40 wpm on the phone. I usually hold the phone and peck with two thumbs, sometimes use one handed Swype peck combo. Also I use a lot of slang and abbreviations when I type.
Google keyboard-
Positives- perfect and consistent level of vibration on key touches. No lag, 7/10 accurate swiping, change of long press duration. I like the spacing between the keys. Like the clean look.
Negatives-3/10 predictive text (usually just predicts words like the, a, on etc.). New update ugly black and white. New update removes comma if you want google voice on your keyboard.
Swiftkey- highest rated. I have used a ton.
Positives- best predictive text engine 9/10. Good cobalt color scheme. Able to shorten long press duration. On lg2 almost lag free and can mostly keep up with me.
Negatives- if you make a mistake it is more difficult to fix errors because of predictive engine. Swype is least accurate to me (2/10). Sometimes the vibration is heavy then soft which I find annoying. Swyping shows you next word,instead of current word. Sometimes I type fast and trigger the Swype = error. No spacing between keys
Touchpal
Positives- cool popup graphics and floating corrections (also negative as can be distracting), almost lag free, but slightly more lag than Swiftkey when typing fast. Swyping very good 8/10. Cool editing option. Many themes.
Negatives- a bit annoying to Swype up and down for numbers and punctuation when tap typing. Cannot long press for numbers as delay not adjustable and takes too long. Sometimes double tap space does not put in a period- very annoying. Does not use Google voice dictation system. No spacing between keys. Very inconsistent vibration while typing.
Swype-
Positives- best swiping keyboard by far 9/10.
Negatives- laggy at times and very laggy to tap type. Difficult using slang or non proper English. Tougher to edit mistakes.
Lg stock-
Poo pooed this one out of the box, using it for last few days.
Positives- great spacing of keys. Good looking with a few skins. Number row and symbols row at top after finish a word (makes up for non adjustable long long press delay). Good swiping (7/10). Good predictions not as good as Swiftkey). No lag. Vibration consistent. Uses Google voice.
Negatives-vibration a bit too strong and not adjustable. Long press delay not adjustable. Wish comma was to left of space (but getting used to this). Hard to get to "-" key which I use a lot.
Believe it or not my overall keyboard of choice (this week) is the lg2 stock! Can't believe it. Any lag automatically kills a keyboard for me.
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I've used the old FlexT9 Nuance since 2011 and I was pretty attached to it. I loaded it on every device I used for a long time. But since I got a G2, I like the LG stock one just fine. I don't even think about using another keyboard on it..
For the LG keyboard I'm going to have to disagree with you on the prediction. In fact it miss-predicts almost every word I trace. I think at best its 50% accurate. I have been a long to time user and fan of Swype because it is super accurate, but alas it has no number row. Anyone that has used a keyboard without a number row knows how nice it is to have one and not need to long press. This is the only place I have seen the LG keyboard win out. Otherwise, every time I use the LG keyboard I get so frustrated and swear I'm going back to Swype... I still haven't, but only because of the number row!
Personally I'm using the Google keyboard. I love the default LG one, but I cannot stand that the spacebar on the bottom is spaced a little to the left. Whoever works at LG and made it that way needs a punch in the face, because otherwise it feels much better than the rest and even has the number keys on top. With the way it is I keep inputting a comma in when it should be a space and cannot get used to it.
I completely agree that any lag kills a keyboard which is why I don't use swiftkey. I keep seeing rave reviews for it. It's one of the best selling apps. Luckily I got the full version free from the Amazon app store when they put it up for free to download. The slight lag completely kills it for me. The keyboard itself looks nice and functions well except for the lag.
Now the Google keyboard isn't perfect either and the recent changes made it worse. It functions very well, no lag, but seriously lacking emoji and other cool looking symbols the other keyboards have. On top of that now you can't place the mic button on the symbols keyboard anymore. It's either on the main keyboard or completely off. Why on earth did they have to change that??? It was perfect the way it was. Stupid Google.
Why on earth can't anyone out there make the perfect keyboard?? It would need;
1)The keys to be spaced right and the space bar at the bottom wide
2)No lag at all
3)Number keys on top
4)Being able to switch from typing to mic on the fly and not be intrusive.
And last of lesser importance 5)good swipe function and predictive text.
I've tried using the Google Keyboard, I've tried using the stock LG keyboard, but I find myself continually going back to SwiftKey just for the simple fact of the punctuation key. I love that I can swipe left for an exclamation mark or right for a question mark. I know it may seem stupid, but that's why I always come back to SwiftKey.
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I always come back to SwiftKey
Reasons:
- Keyboard layout
- Best text prediction
- You can swype whole sentences in one go.
On a sidenote, keyboards are def. one of the main reasons I use Android. It would be a living nightmare to go back to the iOS keyboard for me.
Using Google Keyboard! LG's one is great but it's absolutely ugly, to the point where I simply can't stand it.
For me it's SwiftKey hands down... I do experience the different strength vibrations, but that hasn't been until the last update I do not believe. But I definitely don't experience any lag at all... I used to on my galaxy nexus, but not on my g2 .
My one complaint about SwiftKey is that sometimes it doesn't learn new words or especially has problems learning combinations of words. But overall it's the only keyboard that I keep coming back to, no others even compare.
But I will say that I typically use two hands like you and peck at it with my thumbs. What I absolutely love about SwiftKey is that I can type strings of three or four words together and it figures it out
I too find myself coming back to SwiftKey. On older phones I would find myself flipping between different keyboards because SwiftKey has that bit of lag. But on this phone, while I can still make it lag if I really try, it is so much smoother than any previous phone I have used and the lag is very rare and slight at worst. And even when laggy on old phones, the simple fact of the matter was that with the way I type, I can consistently type faster and more accurately on SwiftKey than on any other keyboard. That is what has kept me using it. The fact that it looks nice and clean compared to say, TouchPal is a plus. The old Google keyboard is nice too, simple and quick but I can type faster with others. LG's keyboard I wish I could give a holo theme or something, but for the most part I like it. The number bar has been quite useful. But again, most of the time, I type faster with TouchPal and SwiftKey. TouchPal is a bit ugly, it's just busy looking, but it's theming capability has mitigated that somewhat, not by directly reducing that but by adding a nice elements to the look to compensate I guess. I can type much faster on it than Google or LG. But in the end, I still type the fastest and most comfortably with SwiftKey. No question about it.
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I've tried using the Google Keyboard, I've tried using the stock LG keyboard, but I find myself continually going back to SwiftKey just for the simple fact of the punctuation key. I love that I can swipe left for an exclamation mark or right for a question mark. I know it may seem stupid, but that's why I always come back to SwiftKey.
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I know what you're saying. I don't understand why other keyboards make it so tough to find punctuation. Only thing that I don't like about SwiftKey is they recently changed the layout for the special characters but I don't use them that often so it's not a huge deal.
The lg stock keyboard has definitely grown on me but one thing i have noticed is that i have way more typos than on swift key or Google keyboard.
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The LG keyboard was autocorrecting words to things that weren't even real words, and in general having terrible prediction. Had to get rid of it. Plus the punctuation keys changing the short press every time I long pressed to get to a different punctuation was annoying. Swiftkey is the best predictor out there by far that I've used.
Used either Google or Thumb Keyboard on the old GNex. Haven't yet found one I really like on the G2. I don't swipe so that's irrelevant for me. Never tried Swiftkey, but I probably will.
The LG board blows for the most part. Amazingly poor auto correct and the comma key should be left of the space bar, IMO.
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LG hands down for me for just the Number row alone! But I do mess up on the space bar often. I'm sure I'll adjust soon.
Google keyboard or Kii Keyboard. Kii Keyboard is probably the best I've ever used. Try it out
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Fleksy beta for me. I find it really accurate. It doesn't have any swiping capabilities but I don't swipe at all so I love it. It does have a learning curve to it though.
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Google keyboard or Kii Keyboard. Kii Keyboard is probably the best I've ever used. Try it out
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I've been using Kii for a while now, too. Definitely the best I've used. All keyboards have faults, but this one doesn't have many (occasional autocorrect with duplicate words comes to mind)
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I used big buttons keyboard for years but liking the stock keyboard. Just wish there was some nice themes for it...the stock ones are boring
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After a few days went back to the grey boring Google keyboards. Damn its just too fast and the multi touch makes me fastest in it. Boring but true. Also takes up much less real estate.
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